S3E23: California's Bid to Boost Grades - Will it Backfire on Students?

word blindness Jun 12, 2025

Do you want to see improved support and appreciation for dyslexic students in education? Are you looking for a solution to achieve this result? Stay tuned as we dive into the impact of California's grading for equity program and how it can lead to better support and appreciation for dyslexic students in education.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction and Technical Difficulties 

00:01:32 - Recognition and Achievements 

00:03:14 - Authenticity in Public Speaking 

00:06:25 - Dyslexia and Discount Coolia 

00:10:47 - Recognizing and Valuing Skills 

00:11:48 - Building Something Special 

00:13:42 - Grade for Equity Program 

00:14:54 - Gavin Newsom's Policies 

00:17:02 - Impact on Students 

00:19:05 - Consequences and Concerns 

00:24:44 - The Failings of the Educational System 

00:25:32 - Entitlement and Lack of Responsibility 

00:29:18 - Lack of Consultation and Understanding 

00:32:40 - Emotional Impact on Students 

00:36:06 - Call to Action

 

Transcript:

00:00:02
Welcome back to Word Blindness, Dyslexia exposed. This is Juliet Hahn here with my co host.

00:00:09
No, nothing. You're on your own today. I was the lighting and sound police. I annoyed him. I couldn't help.

00:00:18
Don't take your shit out on your husband and your kids. On my. On me? Like, we're not. I totally.

00:00:24
I totally was. Yeah. Sorry. Okay. Now I'm happy though, just in case you're wondering.

00:00:32
Yeah. Grandma pulled out the. We got lights. I know. She's the best.

00:00:36
We're like in some studio, some high professional studio now. Well, Elizabeth asked me before. She's like, how's the lighting? And I was like, you know, it wasn't great last time, but we'll figure it out. We'll send like a, you know, a ring light.

00:00:46
And she's like, nope, I got it. And so. Well, you know, actually, you know that we could kind of touch on that before we get into everything, you know, as I mentioned, studio, obviously, we got the Telly award bronze. You know what. What did you.

00:01:02
What's it called? Telly. Telly Awards. Okay, good, because I was. Yeah, I thought you said Kelly right there.

00:01:07
And I was just gonna. Application for a complete name change lawsuit. Okay. No, Telly. Telly.

00:01:14
T. T. Yeah. Yes. At Richter Studios, where we did the.

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The. What do we call it? The psa. Yeah. Public service amount.

00:01:23
That's on the website. Yeah. And in December, so I think. What do you say in that email? There's 13,000 videos.

00:01:32
Yep. So obviously. So good. Mark did a great job putting, you know, put together in the studio as well as, you know, obviously, you coming in. Oh, that was the day where you had the best gas pumper ever.

00:01:47
Yeah, I know. That's when you get. When you did a little Hahnce for us. Remember, my eyes kept watering. I think I had like a watering eye situation.

00:01:57
And we had, you know, obviously we had Logan, Peyton, Gavin, Hahn, you know, Jessica. Part, you know, part of it came in and obviously you flew in. Appreciate it. You know, grandma was holding down the fort there, taking some. Some photos and stuff.

00:02:16
So it was a great day, but to be able to come out. I don't know if on top is the right word, but for the studio, you know, the studio one. No, they put the application in, so it's not like I had no idea. I hadn't heard from them since, you know, since we paid them. That was the last time I had any communication.

00:02:35
Funny how that works, right? But, you know, again, it was pretty cool to. To be one of the, you know, over 13,000 videos to be recognized. And everybody who was a part of the video, yourself and Elizabeth didn't want to, you know, obviously Mark produced it. And so it was.

00:02:56
It was pretty cool. It was very cool. And it really. I mean, anyone that sees it, they're like, wow, that's impactful. And so if you haven't seen it, go to the soulfoundation.org it's literally you scroll down a half a second depending on where you're like, what your computer screen is, or not half a second, half an inch, whatever.

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It's right down. It's like the second thing on the website. Well, half a second and half an inch. About the same thing with you, right? Jesus.

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Math. So. And you guys can check it out. It's. It's really.

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It's awesome. And I was happy to be able to fly in. And that was like, that wasn't easy. That was not easy when. Because I know how to talk off the cuff, like, or cusp.

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Whatever the saying saying is I can talk freely. But like, when you tell me, okay, this is, you know, Mark was like, this is how. What I want you to say. And I was like, oh, well, now I can't remember that. But I mean it all for everyone.

00:03:50
Even his wife. Remember, his wife was in it as well. Yeah, no, she did a great job. You know, it speaks to yo actors or act, you know, actresses that have to. Have to do the lines.

00:04:03
Like, you're right. You know, Elizabeth's like, all the time, how can you go and go and, you know, speak for an hour and have nothing written down off the cuff? Like you just said, no problem at all. But you hand me, you know, hand me. You know, these notes are gone.

00:04:16
You know, I'm done. I had a call this morning with the plumbers union, you know, here in Chicago. Obviously, they're the head sponsors for, you know, for the Hockey with the Stars. He's like, all right, I want you to come to one of our union meetings and, you know, be on stage. I'd like you to.

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To acknowledge all the players and you all give you their names. I'm like, what? No, humble. I'm not standing here. I can stand on stage all day.

00:04:43
I'm a pretty face. But I said, now you want me to read Kennedy o' Shea Shaughnessy? Or like, oh, yeah, I started panicking, totally. But that's. I mean, this is not what the episode is about.

00:04:57
And we have talked about that. But that is one of the things again, people don't. They don't think about when I first started a podcast and I was teaching people about podcasting, they're like, well, I write everything down in scripts. Like, how? And I was like, no, if I do that, I'm like, you're not authentic.

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Right. Because your brain is trying to read something, and so you're not yourself. And so it's a very interesting thing. But, you know, let's say that we're not authentic. They may be, because that's how their brain works.

00:05:24
They can. They can go that way. Yeah, that's what I would tell her. I would tell the people. I would be like, listen, if you feel more comfortable reading it, do that.

00:05:31
You want to do what makes you feel most authentic. That's public speaking. Anything you want to do what makes you feel most. Most authentic. If someone says, hey, can you remember to add this into it?

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I'm thrown. I'm like, fuck. Because then it's like, it doesn't. I can do it, but it keeps. I have to keep playing it in my head, like, try to put it in at the same time instead of just speaking, which we are really good at, you know?

00:05:52
And when I did, that was it for the GED at graduation. You know, I had to. Yeah. I wanted to make sure I had a couple points. And, you know, every time I try and make sure I had those points, I forgot everything else.

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Right. It's so crazy, isn't it? Go to the grocery store. Can't forget this. Can't.

00:06:09
For this. I forget this. I got this. But forget all the other 22 other things. Right?

00:06:14
Yeah. I mean, it's just. It's just interesting how the brain works. And if you think about it, it's really fascinating. And another episode, we're going to talk about Discount Coolia and a situation that happened at the event.

00:06:25
And we'll get into it, but I think help people be able to be like, oh, I didn't think about that. And it's the same with words. When you're trying to hold on to something, it doesn't happen. But that's not what we're talking about today. That will be another episode because I really want to dive into discount Coolia.

00:06:44
So California, you love the state. I like the atmosphere of California, but some of the stuff that they're doing, you. You would hug trees there. I know. I love the Yol Yogi and the, like, the.

00:06:58
The mountains. And then what are those shoes they wear? The Tevri or those. The Tivas. Yeah.

00:07:04
See, I'm not really a big Teva. Person or like a Birkenstock person. So we have. I'm like, crunchy, but not in my. I almost got a Birkenstock, but it's not.

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It doesn't look. It's more sty. It's. You know, it's a typical Birkenstock. No.

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Well, my sister has them because they're in right now. And anytime I put Birkenstocks on, though, that's not for my. I don't. I look like flood Fun stone. It's not a good look for me.

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It's not good. Let's. Let's be clear.

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Move on. What are you gonna say, I wonder, the dresses that you pick for that one event. Oh, Jesus Christ. I. You and Hahnielle.

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I. I'm not even. That was all that there was there. And I was like, I can try to make something work. What was the dress of the brow?

00:07:52
It was not. It was a real house. It was a Mormon. Elizabeth thought it was really. Hahnielle had to share it.

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I was like, listen, I had, like an hour to get, like, I had to make a pick. I could not go out. It was the last minute thing. It was not a good idea. And I was like, can I pull this off?

00:08:14
Clearly it was not. No. Everyone hated it anyway. What did Hahn say to you? He was like, it's not the most attractive, but, like, whatever.

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See, now, here's the thing. And I. Now I'm gonna. I'm gonna talk and it's gonna sound very egocentrical right now. But when I.

00:08:31
In my prime, even as a younger person in my 20s, I could put just jeans in a tank top, T shirt. And I did not like. It was. I looked super stylish. As you get older, you can't just do that anymore.

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So that was my styles. No, no, that was my style. And it was good. I could throw a dress on. It was easy.

00:08:49
It was just like in my younger years, as I've gotten older, I know I have to step it up. I've heard it. Well, I don't think that was the case. You were going to a. You were going to some nice event.

00:09:02
I think it was where I was talking on the jeans and T shirt. Whatever you're trying to try to sell yourself right now. You weren't wearing that when you're 25 either. So this is true. Right?

00:09:12
All right, whatever. I didn't have to put a lot of effort before. You know, it's a skill. You know, that's a skill to be able to put things together. I'm terrible I'm a.

00:09:23
More of a trendsetter, not a trend follower people, you know. Yes. I, I don't care. You know, I don't have style. I don't.

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I don't put things together and I don't give a. But that's a skill, you know, it really is. And. Or to be able to walk into a house. Like we talk about our house, you know, to walk in.

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We saw the originals. So the people that we bought from bought it like 10 years ago and gutted it. And there was more like it was ran down and to bell to, you know, they got that skill. You know, Paul and Sariah are their names. Great, awesome people.

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But to have the skills to walk into a house like that and know they're going to go do it like this. Yeah, I see what you see. Like if it's a pink wall or a purple wall or like, you know, we saw the pictures. Like, damn. You know, you wouldn't even know.

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We shared them with some people. We had no idea it was the same house. You know, that's a skill. My sister has that and my sister has the style. Skill.

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I did not get either. That's why I would hire an interior decorator or my sister. And that's fine. You know, it's, you know, where I was going to go, you know, going with. Everybody has that skill.

00:10:32
Everybody's got a skill. That is a skill, right? That is a skill for to be able to go and cut coupons, right? The coupon shopper, you know, grandma. Like, those are, those are skills that people don't recognize.

00:10:47
They take them for granted. And why. Why I say that is we'll get into, you know, you know, the Gavin Newsom thing in California. Be proud of those things. Yes.

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Oh, totally. Yeah. It's a strength. It's a strength. It's a skill.

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It's a strength. You're good at it. You're great at it. You know, be proud of that. It doesn't matter if it is, you know, you're.

00:11:06
You're going to the grocery store and you're bailing the same. That. That's a skill. That's a skill that people, you know, people can have that people need that you have. Like, be, you know, be proud of that.

00:11:16
It's those little things that, you know, go a long way. I had a call this morning before we get back in that topic about the event, May 17th event. All right. You know, and they're like, no, blew. Blew away our expectations and they're looking forward for next year.

00:11:33
And planning next year already and thinking it's amazing. And all these, you know, all these kinds of things and the details, obviously you talk about it. You're great on details. Yep. You know, I said to him, I, I want everybody to feel special when they walk in there, because I never did.

00:11:48
Right. You know, it's. And the one gentleman said, I said, for long term, we're trying to build something that's never been built in the world before. And I may spend a lot more money up front to make those details special because if they feel special, they're going to come back. If they feel cheated or if they feel where I could have cut corners and save money for the foundation but didn't make them feel as special, they're not coming back.

00:12:24
No, it's true. And to know these strengths and weaknesses like, so if you didn't have those detail like that detail oriented, you would have to either have someone else help you or it's not something you would go into. So, like, I know if I'm gonna do any big events, I need a stylist and I'm okay with that because I fucking hate shopping. Hey, that's great. Yeah, me too.

00:12:49
I like to wear my sweat and sweatpants and I hate summertime, you know, because then it's gonna be too hot for sweat. You know, I like that. I'm like the high. But yes. So back to California and Birkenstocks.

00:13:02
That is the thing. So, yes, I like the mountains. I like the, the landscape of California. I feel very at home there. I like the different.

00:13:13
The mountains and the water. I'm not talking about the people. I'm talking about like just the air and the crispness in the morning. There's like a lot of different things that I like about it. However, there's things that I don't like about it.

00:13:26
Just like in any place. And what we wanted to talk about is that California is planning to implement a grade for equality. Okay. Now I want everyone to think about this as I'm speaking these words. I want you truly to listen.

00:13:42
Are you going to read it? Yeah, as I just looked at that. Okay, so grading for equality. Nope. Equity.

00:13:54
Grading for equity Program at. So it's SF United San Francisco. United Schools. Okay, sorry. Unified Schools.

00:14:04
So this program will eliminate homework, eliminate weekly test, allow for late assignments to hand in, allow students to skip class without affecting grades. Making great or making getting an 80 and A. Allow students to pass with as grade as low as a 21. Now someone might say, oh, Brent and Juliet. That sounds like, you would be really excited about that because that's taking the onus off of the students.

00:14:33
And when I read this, I got pissed because I was like, oh, my God. And then I said to you, wait, I'm curious. Because I was like, I think he's going to be pissed too. But then I'm also curious to know what your thoughts are. So why don't you go into your thoughts, since I just read that, and then we can explain why we got angry.

00:14:54
You know, Gavin Newson's a scumbag piece of, you know, he wants to claim he's dyslexic, right?

00:15:03
You know, obviously at one point in time, he talked about addiction, not, not being a problem. It's always great to come home, you know, so I, I have hatred for him for, for many different reasons. But yeah. Eliminating homework, limiting weekly tests, you know, allowing for late assignment hands ins. Allowing a student to skip class.

00:15:25
Let's, let's do that one first. Let's. Allowing students to skip class without affecting grade. So right before the election, Biden, President Biden tried to, they passed a bill of two high and goes $250 million to try and keep kid in school. And again, the problem was that that's why they couldn't read anymore, because they were missing school.

00:15:45
Because they were missing school, right? That, you know, and then I, I, I talked about, you know, mind my dyslexia, right? Is everything is, you know, pen and paper. I got pens, I got paper everywhere. Everything's written down.

00:15:57
I got to write everything down. You know, anything important, you know, we just get this massive box of paper from Amazon because I print everything, right? That's what I have to do. So anything important, I can't remember it off my phone or I can't, you know, I can't remember off the computer. So just think of all the dyslexia like me, right?

00:16:14
You know, for Covid, you know, if you're in that states where, you know, so they didn't learn for a couple years. So you pass a bill for $250 million to keep kid in school. If a kid can skip school and not be in trouble.

00:16:32
Why would we go to school? Why would you go to school? Especially kids like us. Like, going to school was awful, right? Now you're going to give us a green light to get out.

00:16:50
It makes no sense. Like again, school sucks for us, right? 100%. School's hard for us. School is not where we're meant to be.

00:17:02
But giving us or any high school kid like what high school kid wouldn't want to skip to go smoke pot or get laid or just get lunch?

00:17:16
Who wouldn't want that, right? High school, like, you got to protect kids from themselves sometimes, right? You look back at the dumb things we did. Oh, my God. Right.

00:17:29
And then you look at our kids like, so how is that benefiting? So, but go ahead. Well, no, so everything you just said. So here's the thing, because we did do an episode on that. We were like, oh, my God, what about kids with anxiety, right?

00:17:46
Kids are behind, and now you're forcing them to be in school. And so you might be listening to this being like, well, how do you guys, you know, like, you're talking about both sides of your mouth. Totally. But we are not. Because here's the thing.

00:17:56
So. And again, this is always our opinion. But so, like, that forcing, right? Every kid. So that's like a whole blanket thing.

00:18:05
It's not about, hey, let's check in with this person. Are they sick? Are they. Is there's. There's someone in their house, like their grandmother that's sick, and this kid is the one that has to take care of them because the mom has to go to work, and now you're penalizing the parents for the kid missing, right?

00:18:19
So, like, there's. There's gray area and everything in school is black or white, right? And so that is one of our big, big, big problems. It's black or white. So it.

00:18:27
That. First of all, that's where we were coming from. It's like, also like, okay, there's some kids that have anxiety because, as you said, they're so far behind because of COVID and now you're forcing them, and they're not being taught and they're being called out and being in there, and now they're getting anxiety, and it's. It's course. Right?

00:18:42
So that is like, okay, we understand, though. But that message to kids is we care and we're trying to change something because we did say, like, you know what? We understand what he's trying to do. We understand full marks to it. Like, I don't care.

00:18:56
Republican, Democrat, whatever side you fence. Full marks. Like, he was trying to do something right. Right or wrong. There was an effort there.

00:19:05
So I applaud that. Exactly. There was an effort and it showed. Hey, kids, we know that we're like, that things are not good. We're trying to figure things out.

00:19:14
Was it the right approach? We disagree with the approach, but we understand the effort. A for effort, right? Okay, now what this Is saying is, we know you're behind and guess what? We don't give a fuck.

00:19:25
And we're not going to try to teach you. We're just going to let you go and go even more fucked up. Think about the crime that this is going to cause. Think about. I mean, first of all, I do homework.

00:19:37
I am okay with that part because I do think a lot of times teachers just give homework, and that's not. You. Do you do homework? No. Right.

00:19:44
That's right. I think homework is ridiculous. It's like you're in school for eight hours. Give these kids a little bit of a break. I.

00:19:51
I think you can do some stuff. But like, I know my kids will sometimes get homework from teachers that the teachers didn't even teach them. So then they're teaching themselves. And I'm like, knock it off. Like that or busy work.

00:20:01
Like, give a little more respect for these kids. Like, you don't need to give them. That's just like, hey, you know, I'm doing it because I'm trying to do. I know you have some stuff. No, no.

00:20:11
And I agree with that. I just said touch it. You know, if you teach them about that, you know, that homework assignment, I'm good with the homework. But don't give them homework for them to learn. Right, right, right.

00:20:23
Which a lot is done because I kids, you know, if you teach them about that assignment that day, whatever that is, and they didn't get it all done. And homework, I'm good with that because you're teaching. But if you hand a kid here whatever, go learn yourself. Why? Why.

00:20:40
Why are you all. At Chicago public schools, we'll get like 20% of reading level. Plus now they're making over $110,000. What are you doing? Are you teaching?

00:20:51
No. You're sending homework home to do it themselves. So what's your job? Right. So this is where it is.

00:20:56
It's basically giving the kids that. And I'm reading this again. It's basically saying, we don't like. Okay, now we're. Because we realize that we.

00:21:07
That Covid made us behind. Right? Because this is what everyone's saying. I mean, I. I'm doing this in quotes.

00:21:13
Look in the YouTube. That's. And I call that. Yeah, maybe some kids are behind because of COVID I'm not going to disagree with that. But we're talking about, like, dyslexic kids, which they're not talking about in here.

00:21:24
But like, we're basically. You're lowering everyone's standard and basically Saying we've given up on you and we don't give a fuck. Right. And that is you're going to get paid to do nothing. Because how many kids, how many kids on, on a weekly basis do you think are going to show up if you can skip without it?

00:21:44
So you know, again, obviously the US is very different. Where I grew up in Canada was we had five classes, you know, now they have like 8, 10, 12, like all these crazy. So your first, second, third classes, you know, in the morning I'd be sleeping my ass in. Why am I getting up? Oh, I mean if I can hand it in my homework late, which gets somebody to do it for me, right?

00:22:08
Or like I'm not, I don't have the weekly test so I don't have to worry about missing that. Like there is zero incentive. And here's the question is this goes right against everything because public schools, you have to be in school so many days, 180, you know, to get your money. Right. You know, Elizabeth's nieces, you know, got, got license and the nurse is like, I don't just let them come in because they want them at school to get their money.

00:22:41
So how does California Mr. Fake Dyslexic Scumbag, how are they going to get their money? Where are they going to get money? Because they're not going to make the 180 days. I think you said 180 days.

00:22:53
Yeah. There's no high school kid. It shouldn't say. A small percentage of high school kids will make that right. They're going to skip for like you said just for lunch.

00:23:01
The first three classes, you know, I'm going to sleep in and it's not going to be care because you're not going to miss homework. You're not going to miss it. You're really not. What are you missing when going there? But also let's think about the teachers, the teachers that actually really want to teach.

00:23:12
This is now putting pressure on them. But then also think about the parents. Think about this is now also making another thing for parents to fight with their kids about. And that is like, you know, hello, let's teachers. The teachers are getting paid more than, more than they're ever getting paid to do.

00:23:35
To, to do nothing now because you know, as it said there as low as 21%. Okay, but I'm gonna throw this back on you. If you go into a profession and you're just getting paid and you're not being like, like I, I would lose my mind. Like I would be so bored if I wasn't doing what I wanted to do. So I would not be happy that even if I was getting paid.

00:23:58
I need to be. I need to be stimulated. I need to be like excited what I'm doing and that would not be it. So like, think about. There is going to be a percentage of teachers that are like, not.

00:24:07
Like that's up for them too. It's also going to make their jobs harder because they're going to have more difficult kids. Not. I mean, maybe they have to show up sometimes. I don't know.

00:24:17
Like, this doesn't sound. It sounds like a whole show. I think there's so many questions and I would love, you know, it's. There's a small percent of. Of teachers that.

00:24:24
That want to teach, that want to care. Right. You know, you know, I get on here on all the time. Obviously teachers aren't taught about us, so they don't understand us. And a good portion never try.

00:24:38
So it plays right in their hand. Right. How many of them tenured? I got all my vacation. You can't hire me, right?

00:24:44
You got ctu, those Chicago public schools, right? The second biggest pugs union, some of the biggest scumbags. They don't care. If they cared, there'd be higher than a 20% reading at grade level. Right.

00:24:58
So when I obviously want to get on here, I'm thinking very. Doing a very broad statement. But I'll say that majority, there's going to be a small percentage of teachers that are going to be upset because they can't teach. The rest can be happening with $100,000 paychecks. Some of these places are going.

00:25:14
Are going to get what you don't have to have homework. So you don't hand any of that out. You're not doing weekly tests, you're not doing that. So it's a free for all. And I hear all the time, yeah, I would be bored on my mind that parent that kids want things now and Covid didn't put them back.

00:25:32
They're all entitled fucks.

00:25:37
Did you just say all kids are entitled fucks? Yeah, mine are.

00:25:43
They all think that they deserve this, right? We have to work for our things. There's none of that anymore. And what does this do to that is what I'm saying. That only fuels this fire even more gasoline is put on at times 10.

00:25:57
But it's also, I mean, I just think about the poor kids that have made efforts to get into school because they want to be there and they want to learn. And then it's it's also going to hinder them because they're going to be like, what the hell? Especially if, if the teachers. Now, I think, to me, I think it's a higher percentage of teachers that want to be there and that want to do it. And again, it's, this is coming from above.

00:26:20
Did they act like, did, did Newsom ask any of the teachers, hey, do you think this is a good idea? No, we know that he didn't. So, like, again, it's like the hierarchy of, like, these guys not having a choice and they're the ones that are in the trenches and doing it. It's just like how we get all upset when it's like, okay, the scientists, you know, again, there was an, I just sent you like, a study on like, ADHD and dyslexia. And it's like another thing that's been.

00:26:44
And I was like, okay, we know about ADHD and dyslexia. We don't need to know anymore. We know what it's all about. We know how the brain works. There's enough studies done.

00:26:54
It is, those things are not getting to the, to the kid in the chair. They're not getting to the trenches. It's all this stuff above that. Everyone's like, look, we're doing so many things because here's another study, Here's a, another study. But as we just said, California is at the worst state that they've ever been.

00:27:09
I know New York is, and I think I, when I read this and I, I couldn't find it again. But I feel like there was something that I said that New York had already lowered their stuff last year, and it might have been just the city, but there. I know we couldn't figure something. I was like, maybe, yeah, I didn't, you know, and I don't know, I, I, I saw that. I know.

00:27:26
Illinois, you know, I think, I think there's a couple other states around it. Yeah. You know, you talk about it, you know, obviously, you know, who runs those, you know, those three states. It's, you know, it all comes down to who's, you know, you've got people lobbying for their thing. You know, comes down to money, you know, you know, this, you know, when we talked about the UK getting rid of word dyslexia in the whole country.

00:28:00
Right. Why now? It's learning difference. Why. It's because it's cheaper.

00:28:07
You. Everybody wants to go in and invest when that first stock comes out. Well, it's just whatever. Let's say Tesla, right? If everybody Just wished our Apple, if you, if we would have just bought $100 worth and when it first came out, what'd be worth now?

00:28:24
Right. We invested early, we invested, we believed. I don't see any of that in kids. No kids right now. There's is, I know, back in the day.

00:28:39
Go ahead, finish what you're saying. No, it's just, that's the future in the reference to the stocks was, you know, you, you, you, you believe that it's going to grow. You believe that company is going to take off, you're going to believe it's going to go up and split. You believe all these things. Right.

00:28:54
So basically you're, you're looking at every kid, you know, growing up and we basically say we don't believe in you. We believe you're, you're not worth what X. Yeah, and, and that, and that is exactly what that's doing. And that is, it makes zero sense. Like, I would love to ask him questions just to hear what his, what his friends.

00:29:18
Her friend just moved there. I just, just clicked in. Yeah. I gotta ask her about that. Yeah, her friend just moved to San Francisco, like, and, you know, and let's go back to your daughter.

00:29:28
You know, Penelope loves to learn. Right. She loves school. You know, she, she loves to learn. She gets upset.

00:29:33
She said she doesn't love school, but yes, she loves to learn. Yes. And she, like, if a teacher is not teaching her, she gets tweaked. Right, Right. So let's use her as an, you know, you know, they're, they're.

00:29:44
Yeah. Obviously when we talk about here we talk very broadly. We don't, can't break it down. But there are students, you know, like Penelope that want to learn and that enjoy learning and stuff like that. Awesome.

00:29:57
Is it going to affect them 100%? Yeah, it's going to affect, I believe in my mind, it's going to affect everybody negatively. And you made a good point. The crime that's going to create it. Oh, so as a dyslexic, it's easiest, easier for us to go down a bad path.

00:30:21
Am I going to go here with, with these people learning or am I going to go smoke some cigarettes? We're going to drink 100, going to go down there, smoke some cigarettes and drink. Why? Because it's easier. We're already emotionally beaten down at a young age.

00:30:34
Just easier. So that crime then, where does that go? 1 to 2 to 3 to 4. So.

00:30:42
And the investment in the kids is not there and they, they know that they're not appreciated, they're not loved. And that's what's creating so much of this. They're not feeling seen and heard. I mean, basically it's saying we don't give a correct. And it's, it's really, it's really concerning.

00:31:08
I mean, I, I can't imagine who was like, hey, this is a good idea that's around like it, it doesn't make any sense. It's basically taking the onus off of, of having to do anything. But it's like think about all of the negative. So like I know that there's more to it and I would love, if someone is like, hey, I know about this very deeply, please reach out because I definitely am curious on so many different things. Like what is the reasoning other than he's, he's given up?

00:31:35
I mean, I. Can you imagine moving, like who was going to move to California? I'm sure there's a lot of people are going to move out and be like, okay, if they can't afford to like put their kids in private school, that's the other thing. The public school is going to get so fucked because the, everyone's going to be sending kids to private school. Well then obviously talking about, you know, obviously this is in San Francisco, the cost of living, you know, in San Fran, Silicon Valley, you know, California.

00:31:57
Yeah. You know, is insane. It's saying anywhere, you know, in the world right now with, you know, inflation, everything going on, but even count, you know, even so much, you know, in, in that area, completely obviously crazy. It's when you're not seen and heard and that's why, you know, relatability. So like you walk in those school doors and you don't relate to anybody.

00:32:23
It's awful.

00:32:26
Now there's zero relatability in the schools. We don't care. There's nobody you can turn to. There's no, there's nothing. Like where do you, you're just, you're just spinning.

00:32:40
And then when you go home, if, you know, you don't have that at home or like, obviously very rarely do you get two dyslexics together, you know, get married. Right. So it's, it's usually another one. You know, obviously we've come across this lots there where the mom is dyslexic and the dad isn' and it, it's, it's making for, you know, for a rough road, you know, because dad's putting up a fight, obviously, you know, a bigger fight in a different way. And kids know it.

00:33:16
They just want to be appreciated, they want to be loved. That's, that's that anybody in this world just wants to be loved. And how many people aren't because they can't even love themselves? Yeah, yeah, no, I totally agree. And I think that we just need, it's, it's about the understanding, but like the educational system, I mean it's, it's gonna get, it's getting hairy.

00:33:42
How many, how many don't understand us? Right? So you got. The dean doesn't understand us. The principal doesn't understand as a special ed teacher doesn't understand us.

00:33:51
So who do understands us? Nobody. So why do we become, why do we become? There's no schools out there for brillHahnt kids. Right.

00:34:00
Their schools for bad kids. Why is that now? Yes, there are. I, I, because I, There are schools that. Right.

00:34:09
It's hard to get into. They are for like the higher, like especially in the city, there's like certain schools that are, is there? Yeah, I know, but, but not, not like, like a dyslexic school or. Yeah. You know, like a boarding school that's maybe cost so much, but it's like cost more.

00:34:25
But usually that's where, you know, you get some, you know, some of these boarding schools that have very intelligent people and that's why they're being sent there. But that's different. I know what you're saying, but I just wanted to clarify because I know someone will be like, that's not true. You know, and I, you know, you know, and I truly didn't know that there was schools because I thought that's what the AP classes and you know, you know, private schools were for. So I had no idea that there was actual schools for super, super smart kids because obviously I'm on the super, super dumb side.

00:34:55
So I didn't know that existed. But, and I don't know if that's my point. Yes, I know. Yeah. My point was that why do we have so many schools for bad kids?

00:35:05
We're not bad. We're misunderstood from an early, early age. And that's what creates when you don't have the understanding and you're not seen and heard and you're brushed under. I will say there was a conversation in my house and I'm not gonna get specific, but there it was very interesting talking about what some kids were able to get away with when they were in school because the teachers didn't. And it was very eye opening.

00:35:37
I was like, oh my God, 100. They knew that this is what was going on and they're like, yep. They never. They never acknowledged it. And it was like the.

00:35:45
You know, this group of kids were like, yeah, because they didn't care. They just wanted us. Wanted to push us out, get us out. You can't acknowledge something you don't understand, and that's relatability. Right.

00:35:55
Understanding. You know, I didn't know. You know, I didn't see the signs of anxiety. I didn't see the signs of suicide. You can't see signs you don't understand.

00:36:06
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00:36:29
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