S4E18: Navigating Conversations with ADHD

In this engaging conversation, Juliet and Brent explore the journey of podcasting, the nuances of communication, and the impact of ADHD on interactions. They discuss the importance of authenticity in storytelling, emotional awareness, and the significance of family connections. The dialogue emphasizes the need for self-awareness, the role of love and togetherness, and the healing power of open conversations. Through personal anecdotes and insights, they encourage listeners to reflect on their own experiences and the importance of connection in navigating life's challenges.

 

Chapters

 

00:00 The Journey into Podcasting

03:03 Navigating Conversations and Communication

05:50 Understanding ADHD and Its Impact on Communication

08:50 The Importance of Authenticity in Storytelling

11:53 Mastering the Art of Listening and Interviewing

17:59 The Evolution of Podcasting Skills

21:12 Managing Emotions and Anger

24:01 Understanding Self-Awareness and Communication

30:09 Reality Check: The Importance of Connection

33:51 Healing Through Conversation and Reflection

 

Transcript:
00:00:06:23 - 00:00:33:11

Unknown

So very interesting. We were talking about filler words. When we're processing. And I remember back in the day, especially when I knew I was going to start a podcast and speak, I became very aware. But then we have Riverside. How long have you broadcasting for? 2019, 2019? And Covid was when because that's when podcasting kicked off. So I did it.

 

00:00:33:11 - 00:01:01:05

Unknown

The year 20. Yeah. What did you do? I was the biggest podcaster ever. And I said to her the other day, I'm like, I love you. Sorry that I didn't want you to get sick, but I haven't had to listen to your podcasts. No. Megan Kelly, no. Kate. Yeah, I could I don't want to talk about how much of a stalker she has been about Megan Kelly or her vacations and her kids, and how how what they weighed when they're born.

 

00:01:01:05 - 00:01:29:23

Unknown

But, Well, you just did. So to, you know, back to her. Get back to your point is, was there ever classes on like, the podcast? Because that's when it really blew up. You know, obviously, Covid was there classes on speaking pronunciations, those kind of things for the podcast world? Because I know hockey wise we'll do a couple media tours, but they don't really tell you how to you learn thing.

 

00:01:29:23 - 00:01:50:18

Unknown

You know, I've learned how to bridge conversations, how to, not answer the question that you've asked me properly. Yes. You're doing very good at that. I've heard of from, actually learned that from McDonald's. Mike. Not not from the world's would be interesting. Was their classes or. There's things you had to do. So this is actually really funny.

 

00:01:50:18 - 00:02:09:00

Unknown

There was when I decided to start podcasting, 2019, it was because I, the kids were older and I was like, I don't want to play tennis and drink wine. What the fuck am I going to do? That's like what the women were doing. And I was like, I have to be like, so good at it. And then also my wine would become a problem.

 

00:02:09:02 - 00:02:25:16

Unknown

But then I, like I don't play for fun. I need to win. I don't need to beat other people. But I can't just play to be like, oh, I'm playing tennis. I would need to, like, be fucking good. So I started the podcast, but I did a lot of deep diving into it. Of course you did. Cheers, George.

 

00:02:25:18 - 00:02:44:06

Unknown

Yeah, of course, but I well, no, I did deep diving into like what I wanted to do next then in 2020. So I started in 2019. That summer I actually literally came home from a dog walk and was like, I'm going to start a podcast. I like the kids were like, in on the name. I mean, it was so fun.

 

00:02:44:06 - 00:02:58:17

Unknown

They were like, what do you know how to podcast dads? Like, do you know? And I was like, no, but I'll figure it out. I started it in my closet and was like, okay, I'm going to like kind of research, get your closet small, because that might. Connecticut I had a walk in closet here because it's the beach.

 

00:02:58:17 - 00:03:22:05

Unknown

We don't have like big closets because you don't need a lot of clothes. Now, we live here full time, and now I'm fucking with no space for anything, but I literally it's. You go back. It's very funny because I had my chair in the closet, and then I had shelves, and so you couldn't close the doors. So. But because I thought that's what you needed sound because I, like, did my own research and it was like, okay, this is not my first microphone.

 

00:03:22:06 - 00:03:47:05

Unknown

And it was it was a whole evolving thing. To answer your question, when I started in the summer, Covid happened March 18th. Yeah. So I was doing it eight, nine months. Clubhouse, which was recently you mentioned clubhouse. Yeah. So it's a social audio app. And that's when it got huge. And that's where I learned a lot of stuff about interviewing.

 

00:03:47:07 - 00:03:55:17

Unknown

So I would tell personal journal stories. My first podcast was called next Art crazy down.

 

00:03:55:19 - 00:04:11:14

Unknown

And it started with town. And I had a necklace that said Crazy Town. My girlfriend gave it to me for my 40th birthday, so I used that was my friend. Call me crazy. What are you referring to? Right? Yeah, right. So yeah. So I, my friends used to call me Crazy Town. That was like. Like, okay, crazy town.

 

00:04:11:14 - 00:04:30:16

Unknown

What are we doing next? Exactly. So I told personal journal stories and really was because I was doing a whole fitness thing. It was really actually talking to women at the same stage of my life. And I was telling stories about my imperfections. Like how I dropped my kid out of my chair, like things that women wouldn't normally talk about.

 

00:04:30:16 - 00:04:44:23

Unknown

But I was like, I wanted people to feel connected and know that everyone is kind of fucked up. People thought because I was, I was doing a lot of stuff on the internet with like my fitness stuff. So they were like, oh my God, how do you keep it all together? And I was like, oh, my fucking front door!

 

00:04:44:23 - 00:05:07:12

Unknown

Opened my car door to keep it together. I don't know what you're talking about. So that's what I started talking about and learned a lot on clubhouse. Oh that's funny. You know. Everybody always y'all keep it together. You have no idea what goes on in somebody's house, you know? And that's from, you know, four walls. You have no idea y'all on this, you know?

 

00:05:07:12 - 00:05:29:19

Unknown

No. No idea what we'll have. What's going on in somebody's head right now. I hear what you talk about. You know what we do dyslexia. Right? You don't know. You know. You know. You don't know if you don't ask. And what? You don't know what to ask if you don't know that y'all, I need to get credit.

 

00:05:29:19 - 00:05:49:09

Unknown

But you can't have credit without a credit card. But I can't get credit without, you know? Yeah, yeah. It's out. It's all I ask backwards. But that's that's why we do. What we do is, you know, tell for sure. Have I ever thought I'm the only one that's been diagnosed? Like. No, not only everyone that thought that I was a train.

 

00:05:49:09 - 00:06:08:01

Unknown

The biggest train wreck. And. Well, no, I'm not the only train wreck. I am a train. There's other ones with us. It's never once I've. I've said I'm the only one. But you talk about it. A lot of people don't talk about it. And that's. And that's why why we're here today. And that's why we do what we do and is that suck 100%?

 

00:06:08:03 - 00:06:34:22

Unknown

But you're you know, there's a reason why. You're not alone. Is is, you know, is a tagline for the foundation because it's not a 1 in 10,000,000, a million. You know, disease or, blood, you know, a blood disease or a type of cancer or something like that. No, it's not, it's it's 1 in 5 hereditary. Obviously, it's very common, but people hide behind it.

 

00:06:34:23 - 00:06:57:00

Unknown

Nobody talks about it, nobody's open about it. And that's you know, the couple TV shows I watch over and over again. I, will Trent I saw an ad for that by the that he, you know, in one scene he said that the other day, he goes, yeah, yeah. Oh, you obviously need something because you're here. Never ask for anything.

 

00:06:57:05 - 00:07:22:14

Unknown

You know, you never check in. You didn't, you know, he's like, you must need something. That's the only time you show up to. And I come off 100%. Right. How many, how many people never value us? Never. Do I need something right? It's. I know, he's like, it's easier to be alone, right? Then be misunderstood. All right.

 

00:07:22:14 - 00:07:52:15

Unknown

So it's, you know, it's it's having these conversations for, you know, for purpose and for a reason. It is. And it's a lot of people don't want to. Let's think about social media. Right. There's a lot of people that just show you a little glimpse of the good stuff. And I always would say, I'm going to show you everything because I want people to know, like they might think, okay, I have like at night, I have like a nice dress, makeup on, but like, I don't know what what happened in the process of that, of that.

 

00:07:52:17 - 00:08:08:20

Unknown

And I want to talk about it. My grandpa slippers, you know, Christmas. Now I got grandpa slippers. So that's that's nice. That's what I'm wearing. So there's no makeup. Were in fancy Nancy. It's grandpa slippers. But that. But it's true, though. If you think about a lot of people don't. They don't want you to know because they don't think.

 

00:08:08:20 - 00:08:28:17

Unknown

But that's where people connect. People are getting way better with it. So it is important to talk. That's why I've been doing it. I always was, I was always one of my friends I but now, like, I'm not someone that's going to pretend I first of all, I can't. Even if I tried to pretend to be something that I'm not, it just doesn't.

 

00:08:28:17 - 00:08:51:05

Unknown

It does not happen. More people need to talk about that. That's why we started this. That's why I started my first podcast. That's why, you know, it's important to talk. When we started today with filler words because we had Riverside did the wrap and the first thing was you laughed a lot, which made me smile. I really was like, oh, and it gives you clips.

 

00:08:51:05 - 00:09:13:05

Unknown

I'll send it to you because it's really through the year of every time, and it's usually where we were chatting before. I'm like, fuck, we need to hit play, or we just laughed because of something. But that I thought was really cool. And then it said, we said blindness because I introduced the podcast, and then the next thing was, and I was like, oh fuck, I did say I'm a lot.

 

00:09:13:06 - 00:09:30:05

Unknown

That's why you asked me if we had training. But so then you said something important. You're like, well, that's our filler word. And I remember when I was younger, I would, I would say, what? And then I remember my mom would be like, well. And then I would answer it, right, right. I would say, why? And then answer, well, why don't you say what?

 

00:09:30:05 - 00:09:54:09

Unknown

And then I think in like relationships that I had, it would become an argument. Well, why do you say whatever? And then I got really good at not saying what, because I had to process. And you said that's our way of processing. Montgomery right now says what to call it. Yeah. There's I you know, obviously I learned when I was doing some TV stuff, you know, you couldn't do, you know, the filler words is, is very well put.

 

00:09:54:09 - 00:10:30:07

Unknown

Yeah. You know, it's, Does that make sense? Right. We talked about this right in it is it is my filler. But it's we are so different. I'm asking it for, you know, for a reason, but it is a filler, I think, all the time it's. We process that information very differently than not. The left brain is so if you watch anybody long enough who is a right brain, they're going to have their own filler, their own tendencies.

 

00:10:30:09 - 00:11:03:12

Unknown

To cover that gap while you're processing that information. Because people hate dead silence, especially like if you're sitting here and there's a six 72nd dead silence, people like, oh, so wrong with my radio, something wrong with my clip, something did something click out. So it's to kill that that air. Do you think that's more ADHD, or do you think that is just like I always again, remember I was diagnosed with ADHD first, so I thought everything I did was ADHD.

 

00:11:03:12 - 00:11:28:17

Unknown

So I don't I don't know, it depends on the situation. Depends on what you're talking about. You know, it could be a little bit of both right. Obviously you talk about ADHD if you like it, you're hyper focused right now. I, I, I use this example. You know, everybody's heard me use it many times. You know in school you know sound drove ten miles right.

 

00:11:28:19 - 00:11:49:20

Unknown

No idea what you said. You're you're speaking Chinese to me, right? Show me where she was. But you're not going to show me now. I gotta figure out a response to that so that conversation could continue. Because. So I don't expose myself for who I am now. And that's. And that's the biggest thing is exposing ourselves. Right? The class clown.

 

00:11:49:20 - 00:12:09:00

Unknown

Honorable. There's no such thing, right? It's. How can I make you laugh? How can I get you off of what you're thinking of? How can I come up with you know, outline of just things that you know, that I always come up with. But now you. Now I made you laugh. That's in. That's the biggest one. You make somebody laugh, they forget about what that conversation was.

 

00:12:09:02 - 00:12:33:17

Unknown

So. So it's, to answer your question, it could be a little bit of both, right? Because if you really like that subject, you're gonna be hyper focused. You're going to be, dialed in and know what you're talking about. But if you don't write, it's a little bit tougher. You got to go in the toolbox to find what to say, and what angle to to attack.

 

00:12:33:17 - 00:12:52:16

Unknown

So it depends on what that situation is. And pins on how bad and the ADHD is for it, you know, for that individual and you and I, who the heck? Who the hell knows? Because I, you know what angle that could be in, for us. You know, for me, it's definitely going to be a mixture of both.

 

00:12:52:18 - 00:13:10:06

Unknown

Yeah. No it's interesting. And so I do want the listeners to think about if their child or their spouse does have any of the five D's. And they do think it's funny because Dan as he's gotten older we call it the pause. And if we're having like it's not even an argument but any kind of conversation.

 

00:13:10:06 - 00:13:32:16

Unknown

If he pauses, he gets interrupted. In our house and especially everyone home over the holidays, he's like, you guys just keep interrupting and literally all of us at the same time. Or like you fucking pausing. And he's like, well, I'm not finished. And we're like, and I in my head count. I'm like, I'm okay. Is you fucking pausing?

 

00:13:32:16 - 00:13:43:05

Unknown

Is you done? Especially if we're in like a heated conversation. And he I mean, especially as he's gotten older, it's a little bit longer in the poor.

 

00:13:43:06 - 00:14:00:06

Unknown

But he's processing and I need to respect that. I need to not interrupt. But when you're ADHD and you're like, you know, he had a conversation and you want to go even I'm not even talking about argument. But if you're just like, you know, we're having all the kids home, my mom here, we're all kind of bantering and talking, and if someone pauses, you're getting run over.

 

00:14:00:11 - 00:14:18:20

Unknown

So it's like you got to be quick and and and to to to that point and earlier you had, you had something in your head and you lost it. I did right for that. We lose things very quickly. Right? That blender. What speed is your blender on? It never gets shut off. One time he gets shut off when you pull the plug, you know.

 

00:14:18:20 - 00:14:47:12

Unknown

Are we on speed? 4 or 5 or 1 or 2 and that, you know, we cut people off. I know I have sensory ADHD, but we don't want to lose our thought. Right now. For us, crack down the wrong. It's more embarrassing to sit there and lose that thought and look like a deer in headlights. Moron. Then interrupting.

 

00:14:47:14 - 00:15:13:04

Unknown

Yes, I love that you just brought this up, because this is something. Even when my siblings and I were all together, we all interrupted each other. It was, I mean, I think having, you know, there was five of us kids and then parents, you know, I mean, it was it was it was interesting. But we just recently talked about this because and I never thought it was something that you could get good at not interrupting.

 

00:15:13:04 - 00:15:31:14

Unknown

And holding. So I remember growing up, my dad would talk about like, if you're just write it down next to you, right? Even at even as social cues, like when you're with your friends, you don't want to be the one that interrupts, right? But you also, as you just said, you don't want to be the one that doesn't have anything to say because you forgot what you want to say.

 

00:15:31:19 - 00:15:55:15

Unknown

And especially if you're, like, excited about the conversation. So I remember when I started podcasting, when I started interviewing, I had a couple of my friends say, I can't believe how good you are at holding what they said and then circling back. And I'm like, I've gotten really good. And I didn't even realize I was like, right? There's so many times I'm so excited to get into this conversation, but you can't.

 

00:15:55:17 - 00:16:15:01

Unknown

You're going to be a terrible podcaster if you're an interviewing and you're interrupting like no one's going to want to be on your podcast, no one's going to want to listen to that either. So I innately just did it, but I didn't realize that it was a muscle that you could get better at. I didn't have to write things down, but to your point, it was something I was very interested in, right.

 

00:16:15:01 - 00:16:36:00

Unknown

And I could tell if I was interviewing a guest that I really was excited to hear their story. I, you know, people know I love the deep and depth. I love a good story. I love conversation about people. I love to know how people tick. But there's been there probably was like 3 or 4 guests that maybe weren't as I wasn't as connected with.

 

00:16:36:00 - 00:16:57:09

Unknown

And it was harder for me. But I still did it because, you know, I didn't want to interrupt, but that's such a good point and something for people to really think about. And I think there's only one really one I want to say for us that was is isn't the that not an interesting side? I won't say bad or whatever.

 

00:16:57:15 - 00:17:04:02

Unknown

That crazy lady you brought on my.

 

00:17:04:04 - 00:17:29:03

Unknown

Right. I don't know where. You just saw no word tree. You found her hugging next to how I interviewed her for my first podcast. Oh my God, I just remember your face. You sat back down and I had nothing to say. I couldn't even you to shut me up. Is pretty hard. Like, there's there's there's times where I'm speechless.

 

00:17:29:03 - 00:17:53:11

Unknown

Very hard. But I hadn't, I couldn't even I had nothing. I'm like, I'm looking at this woman and listing the things she was saying. She was time on unicorns and fucking umbrellas and what's the what's the what's the walrus of the sea? What's this? What's that? You big thing with the horn? Oh, yeah. Narwhal. Yeah. Narwhal. Like the shit was just.

 

00:17:53:13 - 00:18:15:13

Unknown

Yes. So, I love that. Okay. That's so funny. And it's true, but. So there's a couple things. And I love where this is going, because I think you've also gotten better podcasting and having to listen and hold on to things. Would you agree with that? I don't know I've tried that. Go because in hockey people are interviewing me, right?

 

00:18:15:15 - 00:18:32:08

Unknown

Yeah. So it's I had my answers are waiting for my answer. I've never been kind of on this side. And you're asking the questions. I've always been the one being asked. So they're waiting for me to answer. Waiting for me to finish. They're waiting for me. You know, there's Mike after the game, right? So I've never really been on the opposite side of it.

 

00:18:32:08 - 00:18:49:09

Unknown

So I've tried to get better. I, I sure it's how I've gotta get way better. So I the question you've got to answer that for me. Well I think you do. And it's funny because I can always tell. Yeah you're well I when you're not open. Right. Yeah. You're like oh yeah. Because when you're excited now I have a question for you.

 

00:18:49:11 - 00:19:11:15

Unknown

Do you, are you can you still retain what I'm saying when you're excited to chime in and still listen and still hold your thought, or are you completely like, whatever, disregarding what I'm saying because you're like, oh, I'm just thinking about my question in my head no more most of the times, and I'm trying to, you know, that I'm waiting to jump in with you.

 

00:19:11:15 - 00:19:36:08

Unknown

Is fillers right? To finish off an idea what we're talking about? It's a lot of times it's not, you know, another idea. It's like, oh, you know, you're a talent. You know, all your siblings are talking here, adding in to that, you know, adding to that conversation that we're having. So, right, I get excited because I will lose that.

 

00:19:36:10 - 00:19:54:23

Unknown

I still do lose a lot of things 100%. I don't know if that's ADHD. The concussions are, there's a lot behind that. But, a little bit of both. They'll be times where I will lose it. And see how I just said, right there. Yeah. Because. But I think you. Because you were thinking. You're thinking.

 

00:19:54:23 - 00:20:12:07

Unknown

But I think you have gotten where I just don't know if you're still, like, retaining what I'm saying, but I think you are, because it's like, it's never like you're coming in. And then it's like, where did that come from? That was like two minutes ago. You're never like that. So I think you have. And there are times where you bridge something off.

 

00:20:12:07 - 00:20:32:07

Unknown

I think you've gotten way better. One of the things I think is interesting, I mean, I, I said to you, I listened in the beginning. I think you have really. I mean, I don't know if I would say way better. I think you to me, the way we have conversations has always been pretty good. You never interrupted me.

 

00:20:32:09 - 00:20:45:12

Unknown

I mean, there's every once in a while, you'll be like, I'm sorry, I interrupted, but you really don't. We don't really interrupt each other. We usually let the other person finish, and you can kind of tell I can kind of tell by your body language that you're ready, so I know. Okay, I'm wrapping it up. Let me finish my thought.

 

00:20:45:14 - 00:21:07:23

Unknown

Now, when you go back, when you sit back, because there's been like a couple different podcast where you have where I think you're like, okay, this is interesting. I just want to listen and I know this is going to go for a long time, or is it disinterest? Depending on what I have to do. Watch. So with my anger.

 

00:21:08:01 - 00:21:27:09

Unknown

Yeah. Right. So you know something we're, you know, interviewing or a topic that we're covering, you know, that, you know, that we're covering, you know, the topic dyslexia, right? You know, recently we had somebody say, oh, you guys swear a lot. You know, we haven't sworn once. That's where my anger gets in, right? My hurt my you know, my past of my childhood.

 

00:21:27:09 - 00:21:49:22

Unknown

Right. Those kinds of things. That's when that's when the fucking. When I get angry and. And that's when I can't catch myself. Right. So I, I have to watch. That's my biggest thing is, you know, we have to have to watch that. Because if I get heated, right, then it's, you know, those wires just kind of cross and then, you know, the train goes off the track.

 

00:21:49:22 - 00:22:16:20

Unknown

So if I've always, if I can, can take I've always said, you know, if I can take the emotion out of it all good. That's why I, you know, you know, talk about divorces. Right. Divorces are always bad because they're all emotion right. Yeah. If you can make this you know if you can make it. And that's kind of a lot of the stuff, you know as your friends all said when we first started, it's always so negative.

 

00:22:16:20 - 00:22:44:21

Unknown

Your dad's like, no, I realize it's not negative. It's reality. It's true. It's when I talk reality, it's just what it is, right? And not making it up or not telling a story. Right. So it's it's living in reality is less of an emotion reaction then not that makes any. Yeah, it totally does. Because you're right. I feel like you're good at controlling your anger.

 

00:22:44:21 - 00:22:58:16

Unknown

Like when I get it takes a lot for me to get past. But then when I get pissed, you can not shut it off. You you cross the line with me.

 

00:22:58:18 - 00:23:20:11

Unknown

There's been a few lines that have been crossed for for a few people and know recently I think I had like 72 drafts of an email. And Elizabeth says her her thing is, just sleep on it now. I'm not sleeping. I got her, I'm out. And, now, I've never heard that one until. And she knows that you know where I work.

 

00:23:20:11 - 00:23:41:14

Unknown

You know, her boss or whatever. They know they're not getting an answer out of her. No matter what it is. You're changing concepts or whatever that is. They know that she sleeps on it. That's her human design. Oh, Jesus. That is like literally no, I don't. Jesus Christ, it's 100%. I watched the cameras right now and see her face because you hear that and she's dying laughing.

 

00:23:41:16 - 00:24:00:04

Unknown

But it's I already told her that. But that is the way she processes it. That's literally how she was born. It's that's how. And she knows it, which is great. A lot of people don't know it and they make decisions before they sleep on it. And and for me, I have I've been hurt so many times like I've been taken advantage of.

 

00:24:00:04 - 00:24:22:17

Unknown

I've been fucked over like, you know, so anybody who goes there, I go, oh, I go scorched earth now. Like you cross that line with those feet. Yeah. You're not coming back. And obviously y'all recently just had that, you know you're not coming back and you're going no, you're not coming back. Right. You fuck with me. You fucking my family, right?

 

00:24:22:17 - 00:24:45:16

Unknown

People that I care about and like the foundation kids, I say they're I'm the most racist person ever against people. Bad people. I don't care if you're white, brown, purple, pink, blue. You greeny blue, I don't care. I don't care what religion you are, what race for, what country from. If you're a bad person, if you're stealing from a kid, you're hurting a kid.

 

00:24:45:18 - 00:25:09:20

Unknown

Hurting like I'm going to hate you. And that's just the fact of the matter is, because of what's happened in my life. Yeah. It's interesting. So I. What I want people to think about is when they have people in their lives to like, you can read people a lot of people don't know how to do it, but it's not that hard.

 

00:25:09:20 - 00:25:27:00

Unknown

If you were just, like, aware of your surroundings and where that's especially for like kids with, you know, ADHD. I remember when I was diagnosed and being like, oh wait, I'm not like I used to hear my mom talk about the kid or a teacher talk about that way. Right? The close talker and I was like, I'm not a close talker.

 

00:25:27:00 - 00:25:48:14

Unknown

I have a lot of friends. What are they talking about? I'm not like all of the things, the negative stuff about ADHD, you know, you're too much or all these different things. If a parent is sitting there thinking about, it's easy to teach a kid, hey, if someone seems like they are stepping back a little bit or moving their body a certain way, like you can teach people cuz that like that person does not want to be in the conversation with you.

 

00:25:48:14 - 00:26:13:17

Unknown

So just move on like it's not worth your hurt or you know, your time. You can read it before it happens pretty quickly. Well, yeah, that's that's an interesting topic. And then for me, obviously my anger is I know exactly. You know, like obviously it's I was reading people I can. Yeah. It might be a skill that I have.

 

00:26:13:18 - 00:26:39:00

Unknown

It might be my top skill. Yeah. That's some skill. It's not oh when you know it's coming and you can't do well it's frustrating. Well and then you just said something, you know, the close talker. You know we get excited. Y'all Lewis was you say she was here. You know when you go down you go down. We get excited do something little.

 

00:26:39:00 - 00:27:08:11

Unknown

We get excited to you know, we get excited to be a part of a conversation. Feel like you're contributing to a conversation. Oh my God, I feel that way. Or as a kid. So the so the close talkers, the excitement, the connection that you think might be there that you've, that you don't have there. So it's not a, it's not a bad thing like it's the education behind, you know, what we talk about all the time, the dyslexia, ADHD like you know, the kids code talkers.

 

00:27:08:14 - 00:27:34:00

Unknown

So I'm like, I had this or I got this like there's excitement, there's connection there. There's something there. Right. That's why they're doing this. It's it's it's the difference. You know, it's the call I have in an hour with a freshman who's disconnecting from his parents. Right. So the negative. Oh he's a close talker. Well why back to the kids.

 

00:27:34:00 - 00:28:03:06

Unknown

Why right now you're calling an hour. About the kid disconnecting right. Oh why is he disconnecting. He's diagnosed with dyslexia. I know that for sure. I don't know what else, but right. Why? So it's take a second to learn about it. What does that mean? Yellow. Johnny's always in your face while Johnny's. Johnny's trying to find a connection or jumping in a conversation because he feels like he can add something to a conversation.

 

00:28:03:07 - 00:28:23:23

Unknown

Very rarely, we think we can. Yeah, and when the kids are little, it's right. It's before their self-awareness happens. And then when the self-awareness happens is when the, you know, the how many adults have self-awareness and. Well, that's I mean, you know, that's my biggest thing. I'm like, I so many people don't have self-awareness. It's painful. It's like, what's it painful?

 

00:28:23:23 - 00:28:44:11

Unknown

Like what I do actually makes me insane. But it's kids don't have it because adults don't have it, right? I mean, you're standing in line and someone, like, walks right and stands, like, right in front of you. You're like, excuse me? There was a line here. Oh, I'm so sorry. I wasn't paying attention. I mean, it's, you know, it's it's just there's so many people that are not.

 

00:28:44:11 - 00:29:03:15

Unknown

But you also know, you don't know what's going on in their life. And that's what I always kind of say before I get annoyed. It's like, are they a dick or is there something going on? It's there's always something going on. We all have something. Right? But, you know, self-aware, there's a different be self-aware or not care.

 

00:29:03:15 - 00:29:33:07

Unknown

Like, yeah, in a store, somebody walk around on speaker phone. Oh, cool, I get involved, I'm like, I start, I start yelling in the phone, crazy. We're almost out. Well, there's almost a, brawl in, Walmart before Christmas. But it is. It's so. Or like when you're at a basketball game and you bring little kids and you have their phone, you have a phone, TV on and you have a blaring loudness.

 

00:29:33:07 - 00:30:09:08

Unknown

So the kids, that's what you have or whatever, it's it's. Yeah. Speaker phone. And because people don't care what's going on around, but it's so they think they're better, you know, and that's nobody's better than anybody. We're all struggling. Everybody's struggling with that financial, that relationship, whatever it is. Everybody has something. And I always say, if we all sit in a circle and throw our problems and we'd fucking jump our own problems because they're not as bad as the next person or, you know, whatever that is, we all, every single one of us, you know, anybody wants to pretend that they're fucking Desperate Housewives, that everything's almost perfect.

 

00:30:09:10 - 00:30:25:12

Unknown

You can go fuck yourself, because that's not reality. I live in reality. Y'all do I tell people to fuck off 100%. I don't give a shit. It's reality. This is how it is. Like you want to be a dick. You want to be a bitch. Well, you'll you'll hear it, because guess what? You're not better than anybody else.

 

00:30:25:12 - 00:30:47:17

Unknown

I don't care if you got a plane. I don't care if you had a fucking mansion. You got 65 horses. I don't care. We still put our pants on every single day. The same way we still have same emotions inside and outside. I still get the spam, just like you guys do every day. But it's reality. And if you want to pretend you are better.

 

00:30:47:19 - 00:31:13:02

Unknown

That's not where I live. Yeah. So so you go to the library there. So this is I mean the takeaways for this episode for people to think about is filler words. The person that you're talking to. Why are they using fellow words. Are they processing. You know. Or are they paying attention to you not paying attention to you.

 

00:31:13:04 - 00:31:33:05

Unknown

Cuz on body language but also thinking about the kid that is just excited and you know, it could be your niece or nephew. It could be the kid. That's the grumpy kid, right? And you don't know why they're grumpy, what they're going through. There's so much around the holidays that comes out. We're taping during the holidays.

 

00:31:33:05 - 00:31:53:23

Unknown

You know, these are going to be all in 2026 when they're going to go out. It's, holidays are fake. And that's where I have a problem, too. Like, why? Guess you can buy some gifts. No problem, kid. Your kids. Worse. The togetherness, worse the the fam. It was a lot of like, that's what this is for. You know, somebody was born on Christmas.

 

00:31:53:23 - 00:32:15:12

Unknown

Like, it's a love like that's what's missing in this world. Yeah. You know it's love. It's the, the gifts. You know, that you're trying to hide behind that. That's not, you know, not. And that's where I've had a problem with with those holidays. It's supposed to be family. It's supposed to be holidays. It's supposed to be. Those little things are what drives the world.

 

00:32:15:14 - 00:32:34:19

Unknown

And those are what some things are that are missing. It's the kid just wants to be loved. You know, the woman, the man. You know, whoever. They all just want to be loved. And that's what's a gift. Doesn't make somebody loved. Exactly. Yeah. Even if you're. Yeah. You were born on Christmas, so I was referring to you.

 

00:32:34:21 - 00:32:50:22

Unknown

I was born on Christmas, and I. It's funny because I people were always like, how is it, how was that? And I'm like, I absolutely loved it because the entire family was there. They're like, did you get more gifts? And I was like, I'm not. That's not how that's not my love language. I, you know, gifts. Or if someone loves to give a gift, it's fine.

 

00:32:50:22 - 00:33:08:17

Unknown

I'm, you know, not going to not take a gift. But I really just love the family being together. You know, the kids all being together, us playing card games. And, you know, me growing up, my mom had a huge family, everyone she always hosted. So everyone was always there. It was, you know, people sang to me, but it wasn't about the gift.

 

00:33:08:17 - 00:33:28:14

Unknown

I didn't, you know, I don't I didn't care about that. I really didn't bring you Christmas. So more about Christmas. Christmas movies. Yeah. Look at that. It's very, very special. And so many levels. Park. We always get park. The first parking spot ever. We go. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, I'm we're going to leave it at that.

 

00:33:28:14 - 00:33:51:00

Unknown

And I think just think that's a lot to think. You know, for people to think about. I'm excited for this year for summer. I mean I'm I'm always excited and I love I love to think about the, the fantasy lands and what's going to be happening. But 2026 is going to be a really big year for so many things.

 

00:33:51:02 - 00:34:12:06

Unknown

The foundation, just what we're doing. But the helping that that we're that we're giving and receiving more people are. I know it's it's funny how how many articles do you get from people that are like, oh, they mentioned dyslexia or someone here, did you know this person? I mean, do you get that all the time? No. Oh, I get it all.

 

00:34:12:06 - 00:34:40:00

Unknown

So you don't know. It's so funny. And then I think I, oh I people always send me like do you know this person was listen to this podcast. This is like, you know, they just mentioned they were dyslexic here and there. Whether it's more people are talking about it, which I do think more people are getting a little bit more comfortable saying the word, I'm not saying that they're comfortable with, the dark parts, because we know that they're not, because anytime we're like, oh, let's get into a conversation.

 

00:34:40:00 - 00:35:02:21

Unknown

Oh, no, I don't want to do that. But more people are kind of, in my world or what I'm being sent is saying it. I have dyslexia. School wasn't easy, but that's kind of where it's going. I can't wait to get more in depth and have more guests on and break down where people can talk, and I just want to leave that.

 

00:35:02:21 - 00:35:32:18

Unknown

Remember the other day we were talking, and one of the things that is really important is when you talk about it, you heal, you feel, you heal. What does it feel to heal? Heal? To feel what? Where can I get my head right now you have to feel the heal. And a lot of people, you know, we have a couple people in our lives right now that are really going through this journey and are feeling all the feels and are like, I'm shedding this.

 

00:35:32:18 - 00:35:49:00

Unknown

I'm feeling so much better than I'm acknowledging all the hurt and anger. Right? I just went on a run and I, this is not me. This person, I just went on a run, and I just, you know, just felt like I shedded so much. But that's the importance of it. So acknowledging that you have it, that's great.

 

00:35:49:00 - 00:36:26:11

Unknown

And this is for anyone that's like, oh, yeah, I've been talking about it, but are you really talking about it? And that's one of the things that I want to kind of challenge people on this year is think about those really shitty, sucky times. And one of the questions that someone had has asked me are some of the work that I'm doing, and it really took me, even after doing all of this, the podcast where I failed so much is when was the first time in your life that you remember not feeling like 100% like where you feel a disconnect or like, think about the time.

 

00:36:26:13 - 00:36:49:07

Unknown

This is how it started. Think about the time in your life where you had the most joy as a kid. Like, I remember just running the neighborhood and like that's on it. And the best way? Climbing trees, just having just being free and not having anything to worry about. And then I remember the first time where I had that anxiety stomach feeling and that was fucking school.

 

00:36:49:09 - 00:37:09:11

Unknown

And doing that work is really important. So I'm challenging more people to do that. Do you want to talk about the well, you we know it was on when you were on. Yeah on the Pi when you were skating. Yeah. Playing hockey was you know, I never had to worry about answering a question or reading or working on the farm.

 

00:37:09:13 - 00:37:33:06

Unknown

There's obviously nowhere near school. I know schools were obviously nowhere on my. My stuff is, traumas are. And, you know, I've been on that ice rink or, you know, playing street hockey or anything away from school where I didn't have to read or write or do a math problem or is, was a spot for me.

 

00:37:33:07 - 00:37:44:19

Unknown

Yep. All right. So everyone, I say it all the time and I'm going to say it in this one too, like rate rate review and share. And we'll see you for the next episode of word blindness dyslexia expense for.