S4E2: Dyslexia - Breaking the Silence

In this episode of Word Blindness, Dyslexia Exposed, hosts Juliet Hahn and Brent Sopel discuss the complexities of dyslexia, its impact on personal and professional lives, and the importance of communication and understanding in navigating these challenges. They share personal anecdotes, explore the stigma surrounding learning disabilities, and emphasize the need for supportive environments in both work and community settings. The conversation also touches on upcoming events and the ongoing mission to raise awareness and support for those with dyslexia.

 

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Season Kickoff

03:45 Understanding Dyslexia and Its Impact

05:44 The Weight of Shame and Trauma

09:33 Navigating Workplace Dynamics

15:40 Personal Experiences with Dyslexia

17:26 Navigating Dyslexia and Anxiety in Professional Settings

19:37 The Impact of Learning Disabilities on Self-Perception

22:22 The Importance of Communication and Process in Work

26:05 Understanding the Emotional Toll of Learning Disabilities

29:20 Conflict Resolution and Personal Growth in the Workplace

 

Transcript:

00:00:06:23 - 00:00:15:21

Unknown

Welcome back to Work Time. Just like Zeus. I am Juliette. I'm here with my co-host, Brant Sopel. How are you?

 

00:00:15:23 - 00:00:38:06

Unknown

It's Monday and your adventure. Like you said, they call Monday Canadians because everybody hates Mondays. Remember? I like Mondays, right? You said that everyone hates the Canadians, though. You. I think you've said that before. But you've you've you said it differently. Maybe you said the same. And I think I said I like Mondays. I think we've had this conversation like the times we're taping on Monday and season four, after you stopped me for how many years,

 

00:00:38:08 - 00:01:06:09

Unknown

Oh, it was like a month. It was a fucking month. Yeah. I'd like to share a little Instagram, with Sean. But the hundredth episode, talk about my stalking. I'll just leave. What would you define that as? Enthusiasm. Excitement, seeing where this could go and how many people we could help and that we can distract thinking.

 

00:01:06:11 - 00:01:29:08

Unknown

100%. Yeah. And then when you said stalking, I was like, oh, he probably has gotten stalked. Oh my gosh, I probably did come across as a stalker. And I was like, oh God, no. Guy that's I've never done that. Wow. Totally. Okay. Which is really, really, pretty. I'm sure if I Google some you're sharing or New York City or name, I might pop up 1 or 2 spots.

 

00:01:29:10 - 00:01:52:17

Unknown

I don't know if that's restraining orders. Maybe for other stuff. Because you didn't pay, though. Oh my God, I still haven't dealt and I can't now rent a car and I gotta go. Oh, my God, it's such a good show. I can't believe we just brought this up. Everyone's like, wait, what's happening? I, I life insurance basically told me that my, driver's license was suspended.

 

00:01:52:17 - 00:02:09:16

Unknown

I was like, it is. What do you mean? What did I do? Apparently, I thought I paid a speeding ticket, and then I was getting the text messages saying. But they were in groups, and it looked like I was like someone was trying to steal my identity. Like me. You know, my letters I've sent out that they've never gotten right.

 

00:02:09:17 - 00:02:25:17

Unknown

So I gotta get Elizabeth to print out, because clearly my writing is that good. So I'll take your pass on that one. I and I swear, I'm like, I know I wrote a check because I was like, this is so annoying that I have to write a check. I was like, can I just pay this online? I would have fired it because it was really bullshit.

 

00:02:25:17 - 00:02:40:21

Unknown

But whatever. I didn't have time because it was in Albany and that like, we I go to court in Albany and I'm like, okay, whatever, I'll just pay it. And then I am almost 100% you're right. I think it got lost at the P.O. box. Used to see that. Yeah, P.O. box. So it's like trying to send something to your goddamn house.

 

00:02:41:00 - 00:03:00:22

Unknown

I know, and I sent it out from there. So anyways, so I now have to deal with that. So when I go to drop Montgomery back at college, Dan's like, by the way, you can't run a car. And I was like, well, that fucker. All right, I'll figure it out. Sure. There's a way around it.

 

00:03:01:00 - 00:03:10:07

Unknown

So when you're on your way. Yeah. What are you, two years? Two years too late in that one.

 

00:03:10:09 - 00:03:27:02

Unknown

You're way too late if his life insurance is telling you that. Yeah, it's my life. And there's four in the process, so I think there's a way around it. I don't know, I feel like they're coming. Yeah, there's always a way. There's always a gray or transgender on us. It's it is 2025. And Elizabeth had that a few times.

 

00:03:27:02 - 00:03:52:10

Unknown

So I got a new Social Security number. You know do that I'm that could be done. You do live in New York. This is true. Okay. I got some thinking to do. Okay. This is not why we came on to talk in season four. One of the things that we do want to talk about, because we've had a lot of people over the years be like, I might be dyslexic, but I wasn't diagnosed, so I don't feel like I can talk about it the same way.

 

00:03:52:10 - 00:04:12:06

Unknown

And then the shame is even worse. I feel like it's even worse because it's like, okay, but I don't know that I am. But then they say everything that has happened and we're like, yeah, we're pretty sure you are. But it is a weird feeling. Well, you know, when I say, obviously 1 in 5 people are like, really?

 

00:04:12:08 - 00:04:36:13

Unknown

But when I say it's hereditary and obviously you've heard me talk, I always compare it to autism. Right? It's, you know, 1 in 31 right now, I think it is. And not hereditary. So, you know, now Elizabeth's talk. So I'm just like, oh, so where to come from, you know, and the, the fucking we had a camera on us and just the deer in headlights when they stop, right.

 

00:04:36:15 - 00:04:55:08

Unknown

Yeah. That's you know, I think I spoke, you know, a couple episodes ago when golfing with John Lennon been doing the business, you know, 30 years. Nobody's ever talked about learning differently. He's like, it's this way. Like. And he's telling the story about, you know, his stutter and he's like, I don't talk about the shame that goes with it.

 

00:04:55:08 - 00:05:26:11

Unknown

You know, he's 60s, right? Like that that that doesn't go away. And, you know, we talk about everybody wants to talk about mental health. Right. What's number one shot around town from any source. Right. The shame that goes you know how much trauma is, from being abused physically, sexually or being laughed at. Away and trying to carry that your whole life.

 

00:05:26:15 - 00:05:47:12

Unknown

It sucks. You know. That's why we're on air. If we can shed that onion layer. Earlier you know carrying that and I said this to somebody last week at one of the golf fences, I'm like, you know, talk to what he's talking about. It's his son. And said, he'll say, oh, he's talking about his son being like 22.

 

00:05:47:12 - 00:06:07:11

Unknown

He's like, dating sucks. These girls suck. And he's like, so I'm just worry about yourself. I said, you know, if you can look in the mirror and say, I love you, not fill it, believe it when your life changes. And he kind of stopped, he goes, wow, you're right. And that's you to do is to do that is to be able to shed some of that trauma.

 

00:06:07:13 - 00:06:31:20

Unknown

But you can't shed trauma without understanding. So I have a good one for you. And I wasn't, I was going to tell you not on camera because it's slightly uncomfortable. So I had like a moment this weekend and it wasn't like okay, I want to you're going to see where it's uncomfortable because I'm not going to be putting my words together completely correctly.

 

00:06:31:22 - 00:06:56:06

Unknown

So the team that we have awesome team, we all have our jobs that we do, and we all then cross with each other like, hey, okay, I'm taking this on. You have this. Okay. I gave you this, blah, blah, blah. So I've been asking one of my colleagues, I was like, listen, once I hand it off, I then have people on the other side asking me if it's been like, hey, we did we ever do this?

 

00:06:56:08 - 00:07:11:21

Unknown

And we don't have because we're small. We're not doing like the typical CRM, and it's very different the way that the company is run. So we don't really need to wear different hats because you're small, right? And we don't really have this. And so I've had to go back to my colleague and be like, hey, can you just update me?

 

00:07:11:21 - 00:07:28:10

Unknown

And I'm not doing it because I'm checking you. Like I want to make that very clear. I'm not doing it to micromanage. I just need to make sure it's checked off. I go through my stuff at the end of the week and I double 333 times check just to make sure there's nothing I forgot or I left off or whatever.

 

00:07:28:10 - 00:07:44:18

Unknown

And she's like, okay, so that's a couple of times I was like, can we as we're growing and we're these like the last bunch of conferences have been huge. Can we just like either book each other? So it's like I can just go search. And then when I'm asked from the other side, like, hey, was this done? Because I'm pretty much like, I'm run.

 

00:07:44:20 - 00:08:01:11

Unknown

I'm more of a middle man in like, where I kind of work with all the different departments and keep everyone up to speed on everything. And she's like, well know. I've asked now a couple times and there's a couple times it hasn't happened. And I was like, listen, I was like, right? So I want to know. I want to be able to talk about this.

 

00:08:01:11 - 00:08:19:18

Unknown

And I couldn't figure out why it was bothering me, like why I was like, it's annoying me that weren't that. She's not saying, but I also guess I don't need to. But then. So I couldn't internally figure out why I was getting like uncomfortable and frustrated, right? But I knew I was uncomfortable and frustrated, so I was like, there's something behind it.

 

00:08:19:18 - 00:08:36:23

Unknown

I need to kind of like sit and think about this. So I said to her, I was like, hey, can we talk about this? And she is very funny because she always has like a face. And I was like, okay, you're bothering me. And she's like, why am I bothering? I'm like, your face is bothering me. I'm like, I'm trying to explain something and I can feel your judging.

 

00:08:36:23 - 00:08:51:12

Unknown

And she's like, oh my God, I'm not judging. And we got into a little like, sister, we got into a little sister thing. And I was like, I've asked like a couple times for you to do this and it's not included. So I don't know that it's being done. Not that I'm saying you're not doing it. She's like, well, that's how I feel.

 

00:08:51:12 - 00:09:09:00

Unknown

I feel like you're basically like double checking me. And I was like, okay. I was like, I've sat on this like for now, like a couple weeks and it keeps coming up and I can't figure out why. Is it, am I annoyed at you or is it something that I'm trying to? And I said, I've come to the situation being A.D.D. and dyslexic.

 

00:09:09:02 - 00:09:26:23

Unknown

There's things that I am very cautious that I double, triple check because I don't. Not that I'm afraid of making a mistake. That's not it. But I don't want to be the one that dropped the ball, because then I know it's my A.D.D. or my dyslexia, and then it feels shit, and I'm trying to work through it. And I'm not saying it has anything to do with you.

 

00:09:26:23 - 00:09:42:02

Unknown

I'm not like when I ask you, it's never a double check. I want you to know that you're incredible at your job. You are like, you can wear so many hats and that's never where it's coming from. I want you to know that it's more for me when I'm asked if someone's like, hey, was that done? I don't know, it was done.

 

00:09:42:02 - 00:10:01:08

Unknown

And I just then I have to go back to ask you, hey, do you know when they got those samples? You know, and so we've come up with a great solution. We have a spreadsheet, whatever that I have to double check. Whatever. So we've come up with a great solution. But the reason why I'm telling you and the reason why I was uncomfortable about it, is because I was like, I never growing up, it was different.

 

00:10:01:08 - 00:10:23:17

Unknown

But I remember when my mom had it when she was teaching and she would always be like, oh, that mom that forgot the library book, or oh, that mom that did that. She was like, they were always the one that we're talked about. And I internalize it because I never wanted to be that mom. I never wanted to be that employee that was like, messed something up because I overlooked it, because my attention deficit or my dyslexia.

 

00:10:23:18 - 00:10:44:03

Unknown

So we actually had a great conversation. She was like, okay, I appreciate it. She's like, so is your she's like, it's not me, it's you. And I was like, oh, that's famous. I was like, yes, I guess. So. I was like, I guess it is. And if we can just come up with the solution because it's also though, we need to make sure as we get bigger and bigger, it's, I can't go to you and be like, can you give me this?

 

00:10:44:05 - 00:11:00:23

Unknown

When, when was this done? That's annoying. Like, that annoys me that I would have to do that. So we need like a I'd center place. And so it worked out and it was great. But I really was like oh, I was like, it's coming back because I don't want to be the one that dropped the ball when someone asked me to do something and I forgot.

 

00:11:01:04 - 00:11:20:17

Unknown

And it goes further than back, you know, to that. Right? It's where that kid. Right. And I was that I could, I could have been that parent. And that's why I was not going to be that parent, because I was like, I'm not kid, you not I'm not kiddo. You know, Liz was like, oh, you know what time we got to leave?

 

00:11:20:17 - 00:11:31:15

Unknown

You got to get there. Sorry. You know, I don't I never want to be. And, you know, I was never want and didn't want to be that kid that came late. Yeah, I didn't the kid that I'll never forget. I.

 

00:11:31:17 - 00:12:02:18

Unknown

When I was playing in Atlanta, I had a couple buddies visit and I missed. I, you know, I looked at time wrong and I showed up. Y'all like 30 minutes later than I would have. Yeah, I was horrendous. You know? I was that kid. It's like walking into the room later. You're fucking up that drill or you're that person like we live with where that person every day anyways, you know, let's if I'm talking, you know, talking about our first day, y'all and I keep bugging all the time and I go, you're late.

 

00:12:02:20 - 00:12:23:04

Unknown

So I was two minutes on the clock. Was there like 30 minutes before she goes and start laughing because of course, you were right. You know, it's. Yeah. Coming in and having all the eyes focused on us. It's like standing reading in the room, you know, freshman class. Right? That's that's what that is, is I'm always your. I'm.

 

00:12:23:06 - 00:12:46:22

Unknown

How can we keep eyes off of us is what we're trying to do. Yeah. The anxiety I got just thinking about all those, you know, all those you know, scenario is, is, some games I was, you know, it's usually guys get their anywhere from like, you know, 3 hour to 2 hour for I'm like sometimes I was there for like just, you know, how are you there.

 

00:12:46:22 - 00:13:18:02

Unknown

So can I blend in. Yeah. How can I not be that kid and how can I not be that person? Would I have to? Do you know, and we were talking about the other day, like I walked around the Home Depot to find this thing. Like, I wouldn't even ask an employee. This was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to, you know, I won't takes a lot for me to go and ask because a fear of they don't know what I'm talking about or they look at me like, I don't know why I'm saying the right words or.

 

00:13:18:02 - 00:13:38:05

Unknown

Yeah. And that's, I walked, walked up and down the whole store, and I found what I wanted, and I was in the wrong place. Somebody had in their hand and put it down and gone, like, oh, I was like, I want. I walked out aisle again to see if it was there, see if there's anything I'll make this work, you know, yeah.

 

00:13:38:06 - 00:14:00:18

Unknown

No, it's it is, it's so and again, these are the things that people don't think about because the other thing that as you were talking about so also doctors coming up and being like, can I give you my information? And I'm typing it in their emails and telephone numbers that and if I have to write it down and it's like it is, but that like that is something I do.

 

00:14:00:18 - 00:14:21:11

Unknown

So like I will be like, can you just double check this and make sure I captured it right? Or can you see like especially if they go past all phones like I've never I just thought about right now like is is there a contact information like yes you can bump phones and they, they can. I would just think of taking a picture like can you is there somewhere where you pull up and it gives all their information where you can take that picture?

 

00:14:21:13 - 00:14:37:12

Unknown

Yeah. I mean you could do it all inside of it. Just no area. No, no, totally. I mean, there is definitely a better way than the doctor being like, you're like, you know, especially if they didn't have their, their, you know, they don't they've not carrying cards to them. But we have, we have our cards and we can give it to you.

 

00:14:37:12 - 00:14:53:09

Unknown

But then, you know, then they're taking it and you're like, you don't have their information. Right. So there is like, I had two doctors be like, hey, here's my contact card, and there is a card that you could just bump phones and it goes right into your phone. But not every doctor knows that. I mean, a lot of them are like, let me just.

 

00:14:53:09 - 00:15:15:07

Unknown

I'll just give you my email. It's easier, you know what I mean? But it is, literally, I'm like, listening so hard. Like, it won't work. No. Again. What about you? Hand in your phone to them? Yes. Just like. Right. You own it pretty good. Hey. I'm dyslexic. Can you can you type it in? So. So one of the doctors actually did that.

 

00:15:15:07 - 00:15:36:02

Unknown

That is actually, that is a good, a good alternative. Well, you know, again, it can open up, different conversation. Right? It kind of eases. Yeah. Any tension. Right. Oh. I'm dyslexic. You and you always, you know, you know how you play it off. Yeah. Obviously it's important we get this right. You know, being dyslexic, who knows when I type.

 

00:15:36:02 - 00:15:52:22

Unknown

Hahaha. Right, right. And I mean, you know. Yeah, I don't know if you put in your notes or words, I do, I so I have you know my so I have like my notes with that conference and then I have all the things. No that's a, that's a good point. And and having them do it instead of me typing it and sweating and then being like, can you just double check this?

 

00:15:52:22 - 00:16:12:20

Unknown

Just I don't want to make sure I got, you know, use and then not saying there's tension. Right. Like, yeah, you bring up a new conversation then things kind person you know personal your maybe they have it like you came across somebody high right. That they were very, you know, maybe it eases the, I guess tension.

 

00:16:12:23 - 00:16:38:16

Unknown

Right? No, you're right. Of all that I know for me, when somebody asked me to sign something, no problem. But you ask me to put their name down, I used to, I remember I was at a signing, you know, in Vancouver, I would arrive 20. Somebody asked me to. George. I went to the bathroom and like 15 minutes in there trying to figure out small George.

 

00:16:38:18 - 00:16:57:12

Unknown

George is hard on talent. I was, I was pre cell phone. It was the cell phone of you hit the one you know three times for the C for the C or like you know it was pre pre pre phone like I was I think I put it on the napkin you know or the toilet paper writing it, trying to figure it out.

 

00:16:57:12 - 00:17:19:23

Unknown

Yeah. Good. Now I've had you know people say dude you know this. Yeah. No respect. That's how you scribble your name. Go back it. So now now I'll ask because there's like 72 ways where you spell Sean Turner. Yeah. No, no one like s h j like, what the fuck, Shawn? Have you seen, seen have you seen like, wait wait wait.

 

00:17:19:23 - 00:17:27:03

Unknown

New names and but the anxiety like like comes with that is.

 

00:17:27:05 - 00:17:48:14

Unknown

It's an I. I'm a new child. Dude. If you should be there with name your kid Montgomery. So we've talked about that where I. Well and because it's really funny we were talking names came up because so the other interesting conversation is we were at dinner and I brought up something about dyslexia, and this one doctor's daughter was like, oh, he's got dyslexia.

 

00:17:48:14 - 00:18:06:16

Unknown

And it's really interesting because he did, a talk. And he kept saying to them, I believe I have this amount of time. And I was it actually in my head I was like, this is so interesting to me. He's he's like not caught up, but, you know, you want to respect your colleagues, you don't want to go over.

 

00:18:06:18 - 00:18:25:15

Unknown

And he even said up like three times, I have 20 minutes cracked this. The clock is saying 15 and no one really answered him. And then he brought it up to me a couple times, like I went over him. And so I and my head was like, it's interesting. He's really beating himself up about going over. I'm like, there's more to that.

 

00:18:25:15 - 00:18:42:02

Unknown

But then I was like, whatever. So at dinner, I asked when his daughter said that, I was like, can I say something? And she's like, yeah. She's like, he doesn't really like to talk about it. But I think, you know, you guys are. We got really close with, a couple doctors there. And so I said, can I ask you a question?

 

00:18:42:04 - 00:18:54:05

Unknown

You know, I just learned that, you know, because. And then he's like, when I said I was all these, like, I didn't hear about dyscalculia. And he's like, yeah, I don't really like, you know, talk about it, but I have to read something three times. I always know I have to read it three times. Takes me longer, I work harder.

 

00:18:54:05 - 00:19:13:11

Unknown

And I was like, I get it. I was like, I get it. And then I said, were you really tweaked with the time because you felt like you messed up? And he like, looked at me and it was a different eye and I was like, okay, yes, I'm. And so he's like, well. And I knew I was like, he doesn't want to go in there.

 

00:19:13:11 - 00:19:25:23

Unknown

And he's like, well, I asked a couple times and I read it. He's like, but I. And then he took a breath. He's like, I must have read it wrong, but I don't know how I did that because I read everything three times and I was like, yeah, I was like, it sucks. But I was like, you're all good.

 

00:19:25:23 - 00:19:45:12

Unknown

I heard you ask. I was like, I heard you ask, and you did ask, you know, because I could tell he did not want to get into it deeper. But he definitely was thinking, right. And that's, you know, the anxiety he just presented was imagine if he didn't have that, how much better he could have been. Yeah.

 

00:19:45:12 - 00:20:02:22

Unknown

And he's a great, great presenter. But the other thing is because we added slides to his thing because he's like, hey. And all of a sudden I'm not a screw up, I know what he has. No, he's like, you know what? I want to bring this in earlier. Yeah it was, but now then all of a sudden I was like, oh shit, that must have been very stressful.

 

00:20:03:00 - 00:20:20:16

Unknown

I mean, he's been doing this for so long and he's very accomplished and very well known in the space. So it also proves a point, though, even though you know, he is accomplished, he is well known in that space. He's just not, you know, still struggling, right? He wouldn't answer that question. That's why we do what we do, right?

 

00:20:20:16 - 00:20:38:18

Unknown

Yeah. He's like, I don't really talk about that. They didn't really you know, call it that or dyslexic. So she it was just recently been, diagnosed with processing stuff. And so she's like, I didn't say this. I was like, we could talk a little bit more later. She's like, yeah, I'm very fast. And because. And then I was like, you know, Danielle is also.

 

00:20:38:18 - 00:20:54:00

Unknown

And she's like, wait a second. So it was like towards the end we had talked about anxiety because, you know, everyone was having fun. I was like, I'll just have myself so and cranberry and they're like, what are what? And that's and then I know it didn't work well with me anymore. And being in this role, like, I can't like, you know, whatever.

 

00:20:54:00 - 00:21:08:11

Unknown

I was thinking that my anxiety kicked up and she's like, oh, we alcohol major anxiety kick up. And I was like, oh yeah, we could talk for a long time about that. Something just wasn't working with me anymore. Yeah. December I was like will be two years fall. So I was like, oh wow. So it's been like a little bit.

 

00:21:08:11 - 00:21:20:08

Unknown

And I was like, yeah, no, no. She's like, and you can go out. I was like, hey, you guys do what you do. I'm good. I'm like, I'm totally fine, you know? And you know, again, where we were this week and the party asked a few questions, you know, she said, processing. I'm like, oh, do you know you're.

 

00:21:20:08 - 00:21:48:03

Unknown

That's right. She's got no clue. I'm like, oh, welcome to dyslexia. Yeah. And yeah. Then there are everybody smoking and you want someone acknowledged, hey Sprite and Elizabeth's writing off me. I'm like, how do you know my sobriety date better than I do? You know, but it's you learn, right? Yeah. But the fact of the matter is, he's an accomplished and still lives in fear of doing it wrong, saying something wrong, being laughed at.

 

00:21:48:09 - 00:22:13:22

Unknown

You know, he can present. Well, yeah, he's a great presenter. But what's inside. Yeah. It it's it's such an into when he's like I0I have to read everything three times I was like oh I get it, I get it. And he's like, yeah, it's but again it is such, this is where why we do this. I mean, because, you know, and the reason why I shared that story this week and people might not completely understand it, but like, I was thinking my I was getting frustrated.

 

00:22:13:22 - 00:22:31:23

Unknown

This is another message I want. I was getting frustrated, but I was like, why am I getting frustrated? Like, I need to think more about this because there's this is just not this is something deeper. And it came down to I was like, it's because I don't want to be the one that dropped the ball because I don't want it to be like, oh, it was your attention deficit.

 

00:22:32:00 - 00:22:52:19

Unknown

It go back further, right. You know, there's a root of that, that, you know, that's the halfway point, right? Or is the root of it. Yeah. The why. I'm glad. You know I'm glad you guys got it. You know, figure it out. And I'm glad you guys are finger on a process. You know, I just told you that, you know, it's as you grow, you've got to be able to grow with it.

 

00:22:52:19 - 00:23:20:03

Unknown

You can't. Yeah. You're walking. You gotta walk the right way. Can't run. You know, it's everybody wants to go 1 to 10. All the kids I coach and all the parents that said I don't know your it's the details that make or break you to be good or great. You're, great at your job. You're wondering why you're not getting your promotion.

 

00:23:20:03 - 00:23:38:13

Unknown

There's probably details in there that you're missing out, right? That's what makes it. Here's the details for people. Yeah. You know, in the workforce, in your Elizabeth Jobs show, it talks about there's little things that get missed like those are those are little details. Unfortunately you can't go on attend because I coach. Oh you don't know what you're doing right.

 

00:23:38:13 - 00:23:57:07

Unknown

You're you keep doing this but you can't get won't you know what can can't get to do do get to one. You know. And that's those details. You got to find a way to make sure you get the details down pat before you can move to two to 3 to 4. Yeah. And I'm very fortunate that the company understand because Daniel was like, wait, are you guys arguing like sisters?

 

00:23:57:07 - 00:24:15:23

Unknown

And I was like, you weren't supposed weren't supposed to be listening to this. But you see, they've come out of nowhere. And I was like, yeah, yeah, we are. I was like, we're working stuff out. And it was great because it was like. And I said, I was like, I don't hold on to things like, well, she doesn't have obviously, you know, no, no, she doesn't have any learning disabilities.

 

00:24:15:23 - 00:24:35:11

Unknown

Right. Again, that's a oh we're talking with all the time. There's another process another way. Right. Yeah. And so and she's working with two people that do that work differently. And so big adjustment you know again let's put it in let's put her put us in her shoes. Know it's a big adjustment. She's got six kids. Yeah she's got six kids.

 

00:24:35:13 - 00:24:55:05

Unknown

She's like she can but this is why it's she's six kids and she can multitask like an incredible incredible. So it's great. So I but you're right like I that's what I was like I know you're going to understand this, but you're going to understand it in a different way. And I, I need to get it off my chest because I'm frustrated and I like, don't like that's not how I work.

 

00:24:55:05 - 00:25:07:23

Unknown

I need to like if I'm if I'm bothered by something, I need to communicate. It doesn't matter who you are, I need to communicate it because that's just the way I am. I don't hold things. Talk me on your back. I'm going to tell you I'm frustrated right now and we need to figure this out. And I'm frustrated.

 

00:25:08:00 - 00:25:22:20

Unknown

And then that's what she was like, well, you're frustrated because of you. And I was like, well, just hold on, right? Yeah. No, you just she's she's like, now you're telling me you don't like my face? And I was like, well, I you're judging right now. I was like, I need you to like, just listen to me for a second.

 

00:25:22:20 - 00:25:37:16

Unknown

And like, we need a better fucking process. That's all I'm saying. It was really. It was good. But then it was, Yeah, we we got it out and she's like, no, I don't, I don't, I don't hold on to things either. And I was like, that's great because I don't like we're over it. We figured out a solution and we move on.

 

00:25:37:19 - 00:25:57:13

Unknown

Yes. Which is very fortunate that we have that kind of working relationship because not every company does. And if you as you said, if you want to grow, you have to grow. But everyone has to kind of there's things that we need to adjust, right. Like I have to be like, okay, I need to look at the spreadsheet like it's all going to be on there.

 

00:25:57:16 - 00:26:25:21

Unknown

Like I need to adjust. That's not normally how I like to do things, but it's actually a great thing. So it's perfect because it's going to teach me to be more organized in that way. But it is, it's, when you when you think different and you have stuff that. Well, the shame part, you know, there's a reason why people with learning disorders, the life expectancy is 15 years shorter than somebody who doesn't.

 

00:26:25:23 - 00:26:46:12

Unknown

I know, I hate that, I don't like that. But on the you know again, that's what stress that's what what that's what all these things add up. Being bearish like all those little things add up very, very quickly at a young age. Yeah it does. And it's like you don't want to be the one that fucks it up.

 

00:26:46:14 - 00:26:59:13

Unknown

Like I remember when I first went out for help. Right? I know I'm not going to refer, you know again mindset how long but deeper I no I don't ask for help. These am I saying it right during and I understand it. They're going to do it wrong and they're let me down. Yeah. Mine's a whole different aspect.

 

00:26:59:13 - 00:27:19:15

Unknown

But it's we don't want to be that person. No. And I did say, I did say to my colleague I was like, listen, there's sometimes where like, I just want to make sure that I know this is exactly what you just said, that I explained it to you correctly and it was done the way that I because I'm also sometimes like the second person that's getting the information and I'm like, okay, I'll get the team to do it right.

 

00:27:19:15 - 00:27:42:03

Unknown

And then it's like, you know, sometimes you hear things different, you know, so it's it's a whole thing. But growing up where someone's like, I don't understand, can you explain that or can you? And you've had it a lot. Like I feel like we as we've talked about this, I've had times where I have had that, where I've had to like Re-Explain or like in fam, like in my family, like, yeah.

 

00:27:42:05 - 00:28:00:16

Unknown

Not my immediate family. Like my extended family, where it's like, no, I, I asked that like once. No, I said that you guys didn't understand me, and this is what I mean. It's really but it's one of those things that we have to sometimes, like, go to grow. And that's why I was like, I need to. Yeah, I need to be.

 

00:28:00:21 - 00:28:19:10

Unknown

Yes, I do good on you. You're able to you're you're good on you. You're able to do that for for yourself. But, you know, for for business and for what you're doing. You have to write whatever. You've got to have a process that that works. If there's things you're getting dropped, and, you know, things aren't getting sent out like that's, you know, that's right.

 

00:28:19:12 - 00:28:35:12

Unknown

That looks bad on the business. So, you know, good on you. And everybody's process could be different, you know, especially a smaller company. People got to wear different hats 3 or 4 different ways to you get to that position when when you don't have to. Right. So now good on you for, for able to starting a catfight.

 

00:28:35:14 - 00:28:50:11

Unknown

It was not a good but but it also brings me back to when I first started. And there was like before we were FDA cleared. And it was like these words you cannot use. And I was like, you guys need to send me a list of the fucking words I can't use. And I'm putting on a whiteboard and it's sitting right here.

 

00:28:50:11 - 00:29:01:14

Unknown

I do not use these words. I was like, if I if you're telling me this, I'm going to be in my head, wait, am I allowed to use that word? I'm not allowed to use that word. What fucking word? I am not the one that's going to be the one that get us in trouble by the FDA. That.

 

00:29:01:14 - 00:29:14:00

Unknown

Oh my God. And they would just laugh. And I literally had a whiteboard right next to me that was like, do not use these words. And they were like, like phrases that I couldn't use. And I was like, that's.

 

00:29:14:02 - 00:29:30:22

Unknown

You know, it's a we we all, we all learn different. Even people that don't have learning disabilities, you know, they all learn different. You have to find it how it is. But then when something comes, there's a conflict. What I think is really important is to figure out, is this a conflict that's coming from within? Is it kind of coming from both?

 

00:29:31:02 - 00:29:47:23

Unknown

Is it coming from one side more than the other and really figuring out, like I had to sit and be like, why am I so bothered by this? Like, why is this really tweaking me? And then it was like, because I don't want to be the one that made the mistake. Yeah, no good on you. Yeah, it was fine.

 

00:29:48:01 - 00:30:11:07

Unknown

Lots of fun. So, I mean, we have a lot of stuff. Golf event apps that really are, September 15th, less than six weeks away from. You know, if not, we are. And by the time this airs, it's going to be right around there. Yeah. Oh, it's it's not as hot as outside with two squirrels fucking in a wool socks.

 

00:30:11:09 - 00:30:26:18

Unknown

You guys had a lot of hot. Yeah, I have to say, San Diego was chilly and I did not bring the right clothes. I was like, what the fuck? Why am I freezing? You don't look at the weather. I did like the weather, but I didn't like it for what I was, I would I brought I it like very summer.

 

00:30:26:18 - 00:30:48:15

Unknown

You don't look at the weather where you're going. Oh I did not look at the weather. I got nothing for you then what the fuck? I just thought it's always hot and sunny, so I didn't look. It was like in the seven movies that it's always hot and said, oh, Philadelphia was always sunny in Philadelphia. So that falls in your plate I now.

 

00:30:48:15 - 00:31:06:13

Unknown

Yeah. So I'm the one who fucked up. I had the best clothes, but I was like, I need the sweater. I need it to freeze, but okay. Oh, yeah, it looks good. The eye looks good, man. Look good. Feel good. Play good. Catch up. Except I drank tea all the time. Which was good. I didn't bring.

 

00:31:06:15 - 00:31:25:20

Unknown

I drink tea the whole. The whole brunch. You bring tea? No, I didn't bring it. I drank tea, drink tea and drink tea and so? So it's supposed to be hot, but you're drinking tea? Yeah. Hottie hot tea. Yeah. That's great. And then I was warm.

 

00:31:25:22 - 00:31:51:02

Unknown

Whatever. Okay, then. Last one though, because by the time this is airs, the Stanley Cup dinner, October 17th. Yes. Friday. Go to the website. So Bowl Foundation, dawg. You guys can purchase tickets there. And, and really find all the information that you need lots of. I mean, we say it all the time, but incredible stuff happening behind the scenes, you guys.

 

00:31:51:07 - 00:32:02:13

Unknown

Incredible stuff. Do you have anything else you want to add to then keep fit and have fun. Okay, I love it. Don't forget to like, rate, review and share. I'll see you for another episode of Word Blindness, dyslexia.