S4E25: Tracking the Sensory Signs of the 5Ds

In this episode, Juliet and Brent dive into the subtle, often overlooked "nuances" that can signal learning disabilities and sensory processing issues in children. From the way a child holds their pencil or ties their shoes to oral fixations like chewing on erasers, they discuss how these small behaviors often add up to a larger picture of ADHD or dyslexia. Brent shares his personal "defense mechanisms" developed over 46 years, including his unconventional pro-hockey routine of avoiding naps to quiet his ADHD brain. The conversation also covers the emotional side of the 5Ds, touching on the importance of "feeling your feelings" rather than using "Band-Aids," and the sensory sensitivities involving food textures and clothing seams.

 

Chapters:
00:00 - Catching up on "Anxiety Mode"

02:56 - NHL Secrets: Avoiding Naps for ADHD

04:47 - Numbing vs. Feeling: The "Band-Aid" Debate

06:44 - Sensory Clues: Pencil Grips & Chewing Erasers

10:46 - Comfort in Repetition: Rewatching TV Shows

13:22 - Early Signs: Rhyming & Counting Months

18:08 - Sensory Triggers: Clothing Seams & "Lead Hands"

22:07 - The Shoe-Tying & Left/Right Litmus Test

27:48 - Weekend Recap & Gratitude

29:47 - How to Support the Show

 

Transcript:

00:00:07:04 - 00:00:37:05

Unknown

I'm going to talk about pen grip and pencil grip. I actually was going to say something else and I thought about it before starting, and I kind of giggled in my head thinking about your response, because I was watching back on one of our episodes that we recently did, The Anxiety and the Nervous System. I've gone, I don't know about you, but I've gotten a lot of reach out from people thanking us for those two episodes.

 

00:00:37:06 - 00:01:05:18

Unknown

I've got I did like, some email blasts highlighting those. I've had people respond back being like, thank you so much like that, really just made me feel seen and heard, but then also made me think about my kid and I entered that when we recorded that. And that was like a while back, they the anxiety on and I started with, we're going to talk about anxiety and your face because you I knew you were in an anxiety mode.

 

00:01:05:18 - 00:01:31:09

Unknown

I had just kind of it was right after break. I had just I was just in an anxiety mode. And so I really wanted to dive into anxiety. And I started it with, we're gonna talk about anxiety. And your face was like, I hate you, but I do want to touch on that because that was something that was really a lot of people, as I said, reached out.

 

00:01:31:11 - 00:02:03:09

Unknown

And one of the things that you said, because of being aware of your anxiety, but it mainly being in your brain. And then I was listening. That's really annoying. But like knowing how there are certain ways that we all like when you said some people feel in their throat, some people feel it in their gut, like all these things I know you and I know kind of where stressors lie, and you do a lot of stuff in your brain where it really should be in other parts of your body.

 

00:02:03:09 - 00:02:23:03

Unknown

And one of the things that you said is like, I, I don't know if I really have thought about it where it lies in my body because my body is so beat up from playing hockey. Have you given that any more thought, like, have you been a little bit more aware after that episode or now? I'll be honest, no, not at all.

 

00:02:23:09 - 00:02:26:01

Unknown

00:02:26:03 - 00:03:01:23

Unknown

Because my. The older I've gotten, obviously the, you know, I'm funny. Like, I was at an event yesterday. It was a hockey event. And guys like you don't. One of them was a goalie. Like sorry, any goalies and you know, do any crazy routines or rituals. Because they're known to be a little bit different. I said no, I probably had the most fucked up routines and rituals like, well, don't stop there.

 

00:03:02:01 - 00:03:28:02

Unknown

You know, talent on task. More on yours. There is. I was telling them like I was the only NHL player or pro player ever, never to take a nap because I wanted to be exhausted going to the rink. The more exhausted I go, the less my brain. My ADHD is actually at work. I just play hockey, not think hockey, and they're like, fine, interesting.

 

00:03:28:04 - 00:03:56:07

Unknown

Makes sense. Yeah, but but you know, interesting. And you know, it took me like 46 years. I remember when that clicked, you know, we were actually on we were on with my brother. So it was after like a couple of years of us. Oh yeah, a couple years that I was hired. And I'm like our own. I was 45, 46 years old is when it clicked.

 

00:03:56:07 - 00:04:23:20

Unknown

And, you know, so it's it took me that long to connect dots. And the older you are, it's harder to connect the dots because it's just become you know, I had a guy reach out yesterday. It's like, you know, I didn't really realize. Had anxiety so much. You know, he's getting divorced and he's like, you know, just have to take some medicine.

 

00:04:23:20 - 00:04:47:20

Unknown

Yeah, I'm on some meds now and then I'm like. I like, you know, medicine. Good. And, you know, if he needs. I'm not saying not or not, but, you know, some people need them or you know, but when you get on, on your, on that you can't really you gotta feel you don't deal with that. It's a band aid.

 

00:04:47:20 - 00:05:11:07

Unknown

It's a band aid. You can and I don't mean to interrupt you. You can use them if you have knowledge of where it is. But if you're just going to do it because you're like, oh, I just need this, but you really don't know the underlining thing. And once when I first met Montgomery and I, when I first had Montgomery, I had a girlfriend that also had a baby around the same time, and I knew I grew up with she was like my closest friend when I was three.

 

00:05:11:07 - 00:05:32:08

Unknown

So like, I've known her forever. And she said, I mean, it was like, I think we had kids seven months apart. So I was already in it. And she said, I'm going on antidepressants because I think I have postpartum and I said, okay. I said, you know, that's I know people that have had postpartum. That's really hard, but can you tell me what and everything she said.

 

00:05:32:08 - 00:05:51:04

Unknown

I was like, Karen, that's not like that is normal. Like we are. We literally just went through like, I had that and it wasn't postpartum. It's just a natural thing that happens after you have babies. It's when it then gets an effect and you can't do life. But like you're supposed to feel down, you're supposed to feel these feelings because that is normal feelings.

 

00:05:51:04 - 00:06:08:16

Unknown

And if you just put a Band-Aid on it or just numb it, you know it's there. You're not dealing with some stuff, which I know a lot of people, because I've gotten a lot of people that were like, that's so rude like that. And I'm like, no, I didn't tell her not to. But, well, and it's, you know, the silver world, right?

 

00:06:08:16 - 00:06:44:08

Unknown

And, you know, living it is it's you gotta feel those feelings to understand those feelings. And that's why, you know, drug and alcohol, that's why we do it. So we don't feel those feelings when we start feeling those feelings again. You know, you want to start drinking, right? Or doing drugs or so it's the hardest part. You gotta feel those feelings and understand those feelings to build the know where those feelings came from and and what to do with them and, and how to change them, you know, and in a world of learning disorders, right.

 

00:06:44:10 - 00:07:14:00

Unknown

The older you get, the more you built your defense mechanisms around them. So you don't even realize, you know, what they are, what you're doing. You and holding your pencil. Right. Like you hold your pencil like a four year old Virgo. Just hear it. You guys hear that. You made fun of me for my learning disability though.

 

00:07:14:06 - 00:07:39:18

Unknown

You know the stuff calling a spade a spade. That's all right. So it's understanding. So, That is right. I want to show you. I just as a kid, you know, a five year old, six. You know, if they're holding the pen, you know, awkwardly. That's why, you know, you get your in neuroscience, you get a lot of times you'll get your suggestions on what to do.

 

00:07:39:18 - 00:08:10:17

Unknown

And I'll try to groups the triangles. The chang. Whoa. Yeah, yeah. Hang on. Dragon. You used to chew them. I mean, let's talk about century. So. Yes. So I used to. Because this is how I hold my pencil. Elizabeth just said she did too. I didn't say yeah. Yes. She says she goes, what kid did totally I oh my God, I just and they actually did.

 

00:08:10:19 - 00:08:31:06

Unknown

They're like a nice I'm sure it was all BPA chemicals. But it didn't taste that. It was like a very light. Yes. I mean, I can smell them. I always had the stupid triangle thing that fit over your mind. And then now, clearly it didn't work. Maybe because I chewed it, but I used to chew the I used to chew the the eraser and that I think there's a lot more that happened then gesture.

 

00:08:31:11 - 00:08:50:01

Unknown

Yeah. Chewing that end of a pencil. We all did that cuz on your end. No I would, I would move it and then chew it. Okay. So how do you remember this? Because I used to get yelled at for doing it. This is so I would get called out and it was uncomfortable, but I'd be like, back.

 

00:08:50:03 - 00:09:15:16

Unknown

So then I would. Yeah, I mean, I used to my pencils were like, I like a fucking, like woodchuck. You know, I. I was just like, what's a joke? We're good. Woodchuck Chuck. Chuck which not good. That's that's your new nickname? No. No more. I like to be a woodchuck. I don't chew my pencils anymore. I used to chew my my my fingernails.

 

00:09:15:21 - 00:09:40:19

Unknown

I, I stole fingernails. I, I haven't used nail clippers. That's Montgomery. But that those are all. I mean, right here we're talking about all little, little tiny little things. And we've talked about this before and before we started. I said, we've really talked about this before, but what I love that we do because you have to hear things seven, eight, nine, ten, 11 times for actually it to click.

 

00:09:40:19 - 00:09:58:06

Unknown

Right. We talked about all the times that we've had like these light bulb moments and it's like, oh my, had people been saying that to me for 10,000 years and it clicks. So we do these things because these things are the most important. If you can see little nuances that your kids doing before and the teachers are like, well, that's normal.

 

00:09:58:08 - 00:10:20:01

Unknown

It's not like things that we're talking about. It might be normal in their class because maybe they're glassful of a dyslexic attention deficit described for your kids. It's really important for you guys to hear this. And so we that's why it's we talk about it all the time because it's so important. But yes, I used to get yelled at all the time.

 

00:10:20:01 - 00:10:46:19

Unknown

I mean, I think it's probably like an oral fixation thing too, but I think that's a sensory. It's a sensory thing. I yeah, I read, you know, sensory. Yeah. We're no being my food. No, listen, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're talking the other day, you know, I don't know who I was talking with or whatever. Go on. We're watching.

 

00:10:46:19 - 00:11:04:00

Unknown

I watch the same TV show. So. Yeah. And Elizabeth's a guy. I've never heard that before. I met you like a little, like I won't put on something new because I know what's coming. Right. My is hard enough as it is guessing and what's coming. It's like I've never heard of that before. Can't remember who or Tom or the.

 

00:11:04:02 - 00:11:21:10

Unknown

That's it. That's weird. But we've heard other people say that. But I think it's I love watching new things because I like to be able to get out of where my brain is and to watch something that's like not making me. If I watched the same thing, I'd be think I would go back and be thinking of what maybe I didn't want to think about, or like what I need to like.

 

00:11:21:10 - 00:11:56:16

Unknown

What household chore I need to do usually is what it is. Now I just I can relax and know what's coming and not wonder what's coming. Yeah, it is so interesting. You know, all day long is wondering what's next, what I get to next, what's going to come next, what's, you know, what's where am I going to have to move this or which way I'm going to have to fake this or do this or you know, I it's, you know, obviously it's it's a sign of huge anxiety, you know, food.

 

00:11:56:17 - 00:11:59:02

Unknown

Right.

 

00:11:59:04 - 00:12:20:14

Unknown

I got textures, okay. So I'm not I mean, I don't know if I, I don't think I was when I was a kid, but. Right. You. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Hardcore. I wouldn't, I would only eat salads for raw. I would never I never, you know, like that vegetable or, for too soft as a kid. And cheeses.

 

00:12:20:16 - 00:12:47:20

Unknown

Yeah. Was was handed me a bunch of, you know. Now I'll try it, but maybe probably not. But did you start to say you did? And then she's like, no, you don't. I, you know, I, I don't, I don't like try. I knew nothing right. It's hard enough. It's, it's, it's these are, it's and those, these are the things that for, for kids with, you know, that are struggling.

 

00:12:47:20 - 00:13:22:21

Unknown

It's these little things that add up, you know, it's, her one, her. It's like she had an autistic, autistic, daughter. She said you eat like an autistic kid. This is show. I'm like, probably because I have, right? Yeah. I'm around, you know, but it's it's those little things that you can catch, right? You know, it's they they're unique, but, you know, rhyming like, I can't rhyme a song.

 

00:13:22:23 - 00:13:47:07

Unknown

You know, the kid can't, you know, kid song. I, I, I make up my own lyrics. Like those I, you can't, you know, talk about them once. You got to start from January. Count, count each month. You can't start in the middle of the alphabet. You can't start like counting. And these are all these are signs that every parent could catch, right?

 

00:13:47:09 - 00:14:24:22

Unknown

Could see because it goes in, these little things add up and that's that. That's not normal when you're starting again, you know, getting older. Those are signs your hygiene. You know, people's ADHD, hate, hate hygiene or they're overly I think they go in either either direction. What is this that you're drinking a smoothie? Okay. Yeah. If we notice, if I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but there's been water bottles.

 

00:14:25:01 - 00:14:52:23

Unknown

There's in smoothies, but there hasn't been Redbull. Oh, but yeah, in the morning. In the morning. And maybe you're doing it later. But there was always a Red bull. You. I, I've slowed I haven't had Pepsi cut that cut. Cutting down on everything when I have one yesterday. Wow. Oh yeah. $7 Pepsi at the golf. Okay. But but you're cutting back and that that's.

 

00:14:53:00 - 00:15:14:20

Unknown

You're trying. Trying me I mean that that's that's the effort. I mean, you're aware of it and that's before you were I don't know, you know, I mean, but if you if we people go back to the beginning of the podcast, I mean, you always had a, Red bull. I don't think that you had soda in the morning, but no, I, I never had saw you in the morning.

 

00:15:14:20 - 00:15:42:03

Unknown

It was always there. Oh, I haven't, you know, when I'm by Pepsi, it's not like. Oh. So, make a difference now, I wasn't moving too quick because my back this morning, so. But do you feel the difference of cutting that back some of the stuff back? Absolutely. Yeah. You know, it's really funny because I and Penelope and I've talked about this when I was, like, she's done like sugar things and she's like, I don't feel any difference.

 

00:15:42:03 - 00:15:57:01

Unknown

It's so annoying. And when I was a pescatarian for a bit and I did not eat any meat, and then when I introduced it, like when everyone's like, do you feel so much cleaner that you're not eating meat? And I was like, I don't, I don't really feel a difference. And then when I introduce it, they're like, oh, do you feel a difference?

 

00:15:57:01 - 00:16:17:12

Unknown

Like do you feel sluggish? And I was like, absolutely not. I don't feel a difference. And I am sensitive to those things. I think that there's certain foods, right? I know certain foods bother me 100%. I especially I've just gotten older. It's fucking annoying. But there's certain like and any woman that they're like, oh, we know the foods like you just get bloated and it's those kind of things.

 

00:16:17:13 - 00:16:36:19

Unknown

But when I went from very clean to not even not drinking, if I had, like if I was like tired or I eat like a little too much sugar, I would have like a hangover, like I was drinking. I was like, damn it. Like, it's so annoying. But it wasn't anything that was that big of a difference. Yeah.

 

00:16:36:19 - 00:17:03:10

Unknown

You're sugar, you're what's it called? Real. It's okay. I don't have like I, I we should sue them. That is the worst false advertising I've ever I actually I do I witness I am I like them because regular candy I can I'd like that is one thing I can eat dark chocolate and I mean listen all you true fruits, which is like frozen strawberries with chocolate.

 

00:17:03:10 - 00:17:28:10

Unknown

And I love it. I know, I know, a certain somebody who's smashed a bad glass. Oh, absolutely. Penelope and I did like the banana one, and I was like, fuck. So I do eat sugar. We went to target and set Friday night. Yeah, I got from Reese's unwrapped, and she had a large bag of strawberries, and I think they're now gone.

 

00:17:28:12 - 00:17:49:13

Unknown

Well, but that's the thing. So I know you make fun of me like I used to eat. I mean, we've talked. I used to eat, like, fun, like, I mean, I used to eat like real, real, real real sugars. Oh, good. So good. And I cannot do that anymore. Like, they're front and center. Fun. No, but there are I have six I usually I would take no one likes the sticks and I'd be like, give me all the sticks were my favorite.

 

00:17:49:13 - 00:18:08:19

Unknown

Yeah, I was one of the sticks. I can taste the stick right now. Anyways, let's not talk about sugar because I don't want to want it. But there are. And that was like a real fun attention deficit like woo woo. Here we go. We're we're back on. But I did like how you brought in the pencil grip because it's a really interesting thing.

 

00:18:08:21 - 00:18:23:18

Unknown

And it's a very small little thing. And yet someone's gonna be like, that's not small because that's what we talk about in school. Like, that's the first sign. But if someone is having a really hard time with the pencil grip and they're chewing their pencil, like there's definitely a sensory thing in there, and that needs to be looked at.

 

00:18:23:18 - 00:18:42:01

Unknown

Not everyone does it. You know, kids are. Yes. Or you know, they're going to be doing things. But I hold my pencil like this. Now, from this side, I think it looks totally normal. And we had a meeting where we were all holding our pencil and it was and no one was making fun of me. So I'm going to be clear on that.

 

00:18:42:01 - 00:19:01:10

Unknown

We were all noticing, and I am too graphic, and I did not know I was this graphic until very recently. So I was, you know, it's I did not realize that. And so yes, I hold my pencil like this. I don't do it, I don't. You said you do it like this. I don't even know how. I think Montgomery actually does it.

 

00:19:01:10 - 00:19:31:12

Unknown

Like this. Now I actually have to see because he used to hold his pencil like. Like I mean, he. Yeah. Right. And he had. But I do think he does that. And I don't know how you write like I want to, I need to I push very hard though. Like sometimes I rub the paper because I'm a little a little bit of a lead hand and then, you know, kids with clothes, you know, I one daughter and we had to wear the same pants every day because there was no seams.

 

00:19:31:14 - 00:19:56:08

Unknown

Can now seams in our socks. Can I seen seams in your pants? That that's all. That's all sensory. Why not? It's all cut from the same cloth. Right? You know. Right. In the mornings you put. You put pants on her are the wrong pants. And she was screaming on top her lungs, you know, because it's like, felt like nails going into, you know, into her.

 

00:19:56:08 - 00:20:16:06

Unknown

Yeah. It's really internal. It's a really uncomfortable. So trying to start and start the day that way. Right. Like that's that's a lot for, you know a lot for a kid that those are all and a parent a parent that's not aware. It's really frustrating. And Penelope only wore natives. So natives are like crocs but they're like the fancy ones.

 

00:20:16:06 - 00:20:36:08

Unknown

As we got older, the same sort of material, she wore them, I would say up until like sixth grade, only those. She had every color and I shouldn't say every color. She had a lot of different colors. And teachers would be like, it's winter. She can't wear those. And I was like, the fuck? She can't. Okay, yeah. I was like, do you want to fight me on this?

 

00:20:36:10 - 00:20:54:10

Unknown

I was like, you're not like this. She is wearing these and I and parents would be like, oh, like she gets to wear no socks. And these like, people used to give me a like and I shouldn't say a big trouble deal, but people would comment like it's colder. Isn't on her feet. Cold like that's not good. But you know, like whatever.

 

00:20:54:10 - 00:21:07:14

Unknown

And I'd be like, go fuck yourself and I because I it was always a thing where she's like, I just want to wear these shoes. And there was a period of time where she wanted to be like, where the cute boots, when the girls started wearing Q boots and she wore them ones, she's like, mom, I'm keeping my negatives.

 

00:21:07:14 - 00:21:28:07

Unknown

And so then she had all like, different cool ones. And so it was fine, but absolutely, that that made her nuts, right? You know, and those those things add up. Right? There's there's a reason, right? There's some work. Can you get in kid B, kid B and just be a kid. Right. And it happens, you know. But.

 

00:21:28:09 - 00:21:52:04

Unknown

If two things, three things, four things, five things start adding up. Now, there's a reason I just talked to a parent. They lived in like a winter. They live in a winter area now, but for most of their child's life they were in Maui and we were talking about just it awful that no warm whatever. No. Absolutely not.

 

00:21:52:04 - 00:22:07:03

Unknown

Surfing like oh so nice. What? Oh shoot me. Okay. But that's not. But that's not I you know what I did not say to you? You do look like a small person. Whatever. Do you see? How might I look? Like a giant head. And you look like a small head, and that's like opposite because you have a giant that.

 

00:22:07:03 - 00:22:31:18

Unknown

Anyways, so we were talking just random. It was just like a nice, normal conversation and dyslexia was brought up somehow. I'm not even sure. And she stopped and she's like, can I ask you a couple questions about that? And I was like, oh yeah, of course her son is like 11. And so I think next year they go into middle school and she was like, they're he's really, really good in math.

 

00:22:31:20 - 00:22:50:12

Unknown

Like really, really good. And she's like, so reading and that kind of stuff. They just were like, it's just not his strength. Math is his strength. She's like, but he really struggles and this in this and this. So I asked her two questions. You know, one was the left and right. And she's like, oh, you know what?

 

00:22:50:12 - 00:23:08:11

Unknown

I don't I have to ask because I don't know, I don't know. And then I said, what about tying shoes? And I said, you know. And she stopped and she's like, oh my God, it's like a nightmare for us. Because now, listen, he grew up in Maui, so he was always in flip flops. So we didn't really do that.

 

00:23:08:11 - 00:23:23:10

Unknown

But he never wants to wear shoes at this time. But that is it. You know, that is, an issue. I go back to that, though, because it's interesting, because Montgomery was like a like and I don't want to say psycho, but he sat in the basement for four days and then made himself because we had, like, this book that you tied.

 

00:23:23:16 - 00:23:38:22

Unknown

He made himself do it. And I think it probably was because he did struggle with it and was like, I'm not going to I'm going to force myself to do it. And then, you know, figured it out. But I remember and then he like trim and tighter shoes, like earlier than anyone because my grandmother was like, I'm teaching him how to do it.

 

00:23:39:00 - 00:24:04:02

Unknown

So he went like psycho on him to be able to do it. So there all of these little things that are very typical that we talk about all the time and those, you know, we talked about how Montgomery used to eat. He didn't pinch, never pinched. Everything was full hand. Led, hands spilling all I know. Lala spilled everything.

 

00:24:04:08 - 00:24:28:12

Unknown

Yeah, yeah, right and right. And so, you know, someone going into a store, knocking everything over, right? I wasn't allowed to touch anything. It was like if I went into a store and there was five of us. So it was like my mom, you know, like no one knew. You had to be, like, very whatever. And I'm sure I knocked something over every time because it just it is how it is because we don't have it's not fine.

 

00:24:28:12 - 00:24:46:06

Unknown

Motor skills was actually it was right. You know how the fine motor Cheryl to tie. You know, we don't have the fine motor skills. You know, for hats going. No the no. The depth to grab the cup. We just, you know, kind of flowing arm and you know, those it happens you know kids do it here and there.

 

00:24:46:06 - 00:25:05:11

Unknown

But if it's a repetitive thing over and over and over and over and over or under. There's a danger. Right. And even just like tripping I wasn't clumsy except I always would have like a bruise on my leg from like running into a table or something like that, which I still do. But I think that's like the depth.

 

00:25:05:13 - 00:25:27:08

Unknown

Right. Like I think I can get around something and then I run into it. There, I don't know about kids and tripping do it because my kids weren't clumsy, my kids were not clumsy. But I do have friends that their kids were very clumsy, and then they ended up having, you know, some sort of learning. Yeah, I, I think, you know, that that is, something I can't remember.

 

00:25:27:09 - 00:25:56:17

Unknown

I wonder if that's more to the island. Like, there was definitely, coordination to throw a ball at her. Yeah. She was catching it. Zero chance. Right? Like right. Right. And so, yeah. And there's definitely correlation because if you, you know again it's fine motor skills. Right. It's it's hand-eye coordination. Right. Fine fine motor skills. All in all encompassing the same thing.

 

00:25:56:17 - 00:26:19:15

Unknown

So yeah. But which is really interesting though because then you look at kids that are athletic like so Montgomery could catch throwing was interesting for him. And I remember being like that's an interesting way to throw. He could, but it was like it was different. He was way better with his feet, like soccer. Truman was like better with like throwing and something about football and all of that.

 

00:26:19:17 - 00:26:42:08

Unknown

But the catching Montgomery could catch anything. Like it was always like, oh, he should play football. He should do this because he could catch anything out of there. But I don't know if there was like so there is the athleticism, right? You could be non-athletic and not have any learning disabilities. You're just clumsy, right? Like there's all these different there's so many nuances that we talk about and so many different things that just is slight little things just to be like,

 

00:26:42:10 - 00:27:06:16

Unknown

I want to watch that. That's why we're telling you it doesn't mean, like, your kid, you know, holds the pencil different that they're there. They're disqualified or dyslexic. That's not what we're saying. We're saying just be aware of it and then watch and watch. Just just catch those nuances, right. They may add up to some. They actually. But the earlier you notice them and you can kind of watch them and watch and develop.

 

00:27:06:18 - 00:27:30:08

Unknown

And if they don't develop, you know, there's, there's your chalk. Right. But if they do. Right. But those nuances are what, differ from A to Z. Do you want me to and I think we're going to leave it there, but do you want me to tell you what I was going to say? That I knew it was going to annoy you or if it were part.

 

00:27:30:10 - 00:27:48:20

Unknown

What do you mean, what part? No. How I was going to open it up. Or do you not want me to. Okay. Go ahead. I was going to say, I'm going to say one thing that I'm grateful for.

 

00:27:48:22 - 00:28:12:18

Unknown

Did you just go and did you just snaffle? Okay, so I'm going to go. You don't have to go. And, I'll give preference. I'm doing something where I'm writing down what I'm grateful for. And so I'm grateful for the weekend that I got to spend retirement of the one on one time was like, just, I love I love that.

 

00:28:12:20 - 00:28:31:21

Unknown

How is the how was ours? It was awesome. You could pick it up and like, literally put it in any place, like, I felt so comfortable, like. And not that I usually feel comfortable. Like you could be in a place in Florida and you can pretty much be like the people, the weather, all of it just be like, I'm in Florida.

 

00:28:32:03 - 00:28:50:12

Unknown

I know I can even work my sister in Charlotte like when I'm down in Charlotte. Like, I know it's a southern like, I can tell there's many places that you can go when you're in Long Island. You know, you're in Long Island when you're in Jersey, like there's different places that you can really feel in. You're in California, you can kind of feel that this I was like, this is so interesting.

 

00:28:50:12 - 00:29:10:07

Unknown

I really couldn't pinpoint where I was because there was just now we were on very, very dark. Where were you? Where you were a whole different island. You step outside. Well we do, we went to the city. The big Dig state. We did go to the city. We actually got like scoot. We had so much fun. We did.

 

00:29:10:08 - 00:29:28:06

Unknown

We had a really, good weekend. Oh, you know, and I'm not going to that wasn't in Dallas was nice downtown. It's got a great little things, but it's. Oh, yeah, I was there. Yeah, I won't have it, but, we're going to leave it at that. So that's what I'm grateful for. Do you want to add what you're grateful for?

 

00:29:28:06 - 00:29:47:12

Unknown

And you don't have to because there's no pressure. Okay. I'm grateful for a bad back again. Like I'm fucking playing hockey again, It's awesome that Elizabeth gets to see me in pain. She just go, oh my God, what's wrong? So that probably that doesn't feel good when you just coughed. No. All right. So we're going to leave it at that.

 

00:29:47:16 - 00:30:02:07

Unknown

Yeah. Thank you for joining another episode of word blindness. Dyslexia exposed. Don't forget to leave a review we've had. Actually, I'm going to next time talk about some of the reviews because we've had some new reviews. But leave a review because that's how I get pushed out. But also like rate review and share.