S4E30: Why Dyslexic Communities Avoid Talking About Their Struggles

This episode features Juliet Hahn and Brent discussing the complex reasons behind why many dyslexic individuals and their families avoid talking about dyslexia, touching on trauma, societal perceptions, and the importance of awareness and support.

 

Chapters

 

00:00 Understanding Dyslexia and Its Stigma

02:52 Parental Perspectives on Dyslexia

05:57 The Role of Gender in Dyslexia Experiences

08:56 The Impact of Trauma on Dyslexia Awareness

12:04 The Disconnect Between Experience and Action

15:11 The Importance of Community Support

17:59 Generational Perspectives on Dyslexia

20:53 The Need for Better Education on Dyslexia

23:59 The Role of Teachers in Dyslexia Awareness

26:50 Challenging the Status Quo in Dyslexia Education

 

Transcript

 

00:00:07:00 - 00:00:32:07

Unknown

So of course, we always go into conversation. And one of the things that a lot of people have asked us again, always is, why do you think there's so many dyslexic people that don't want to talk about dyslexia? And I then got like real curious and I was like, okay, I, I know why I believe and I have a kind of a theory of two different theories.

 

00:00:32:07 - 00:00:57:02

Unknown

And we kind of were debating about it and talking about it. Do you want to jump in? Now I see your face. No, no, no. You okay? You run with your theories. Okay. So one of them is when you're out of the dyslexic world. So if you're raising a kid and the kid is, like, on its own now or not, it's not affecting you as a parent, you kind of don't want to go back to that time and you're like, oh yeah, no, yeah, we were there, but now you're you're past it.

 

00:00:57:02 - 00:01:15:02

Unknown

And so it's like you don't think about, like supporting the dyslexic community through the foundation or whatever. And that's that's one of them because you're kind of removed from it. The other one is because of the traumas you don't want to talk about, and they kind of go hand in hand. But I said to you what? I started thinking deeper on this.

 

00:01:15:02 - 00:01:36:23

Unknown

And as a woman, I kind of can think about, like, by the way, and I can't believe I'm going to throw this out here, but you're going to laugh. Today is 365 days since I had my last period. So you know what that makes me? That makes me no fuck off. It makes me a I'm in meta pause today.

 

00:01:36:23 - 00:02:01:12

Unknown

Tomorrow will be post menopause. Okay, so. And don't you love that I just share that with you. So the thing about that though is, is when you're talking to younger people and they talk about their period, like I remember in my 40s, it there were so many things that happened because now you're impediment to pause. And I am like, oh, look, that was like, that fucking sucked.

 

00:02:01:12 - 00:02:29:20

Unknown

And I kind of don't really like relate, but I do. But in a very it's kind of like three sheets to the way, like it's gone. It's like out of my mind because I'm not dealing with it every day. So I said to you, can you think about something with a man that can relate? So when we're talking to people that don't have dyslexia that say to us, I don't understand why more people that are sick, like I have a friend, I was telling them about the foundation and they're like, oh yeah, that's great.

 

00:02:29:21 - 00:02:47:23

Unknown

Oh yeah, I was there once, but I'm not there anymore. And then they didn't want to talk about it anymore. Like, so we can tell kind of the left brain people, the people that don't have dyslexia. What in my mind, the reason why it kind of like it's kind of forgot about like as parents get older, their kids are gone.

 

00:02:48:00 - 00:02:58:11

Unknown

They're like, you know, I had a kid and and then they just leave it at that. Two points.

 

00:02:58:13 - 00:03:02:12

Unknown

Traumas is the biggest point to that.

 

00:03:02:14 - 00:03:28:03

Unknown

You know, they don't want to go. They don't want to go back to it. They don't want to help, I guess 3.3 points. They've moved on. We've had conversation with with many people that have passed it. You know, their kids are dyslexic and they've moved on their adults, they've moved out of the house. So they've moved on, right?

 

00:03:28:05 - 00:03:32:07

Unknown

00:03:32:09 - 00:03:37:10

Unknown

Second one is they're assholes.

 

00:03:37:12 - 00:04:05:17

Unknown

Okay. Right. And they care about their house and that's it. Fair enough. You know, most people, you know, I can I can name off a ton right now. Yeah. In my network, that that is, they're not helping. They don't want they don't care about helping. And that's probably the biggest one.

 

00:04:05:19 - 00:04:29:23

Unknown

It's sad to say you're not. You're going to I am going to you're going to be right. They're going to move on. Right. You know, and when I say that a lot of these people that I'm saying that are very wealthy and they could make an effect on other kids lives, you know, donate, don't have to donate to this foundation or R us another foundation.

 

00:04:30:00 - 00:04:57:13

Unknown

They don't, you know. So, traumas is a big thing, right? You see your kids struggling? No matter where where, you know, whatever circumstances they're with, whatever that struggles, you never you never want to go back to that. It's not fun to be in. I know you, you know, for for guys, you know, it's we've got to be strong all the time, right?

 

00:04:57:14 - 00:05:05:16

Unknown

That's that's what we are. That's how we are. That's who we are. That's that's our DNA. What we're makeup is, you know.

 

00:05:05:18 - 00:05:28:04

Unknown

And when you watch her, you know, your kids struggle. You know, you you hurt in a different way. You know, than than than a woman. Than a mom, right? We're two different species for a reason. But I know you can. You know, you use your correlation. You know, they're there really, really isn't a correlation. I climb up with that.

 

00:05:28:10 - 00:05:56:00

Unknown

Right? It's as a guy, you never want to, you know, just to go, mom, you never want to see a kid struggle. But we internalize it differently, and we also don't feel it as much because for majority of the part, most of the part, the moms are the one that are taking the brunt of school, right? Of the reading of the homework.

 

00:05:56:01 - 00:06:03:03

Unknown

Right. Dad comes home from work, right? You know, whatever that situation, you both work. Whatever. But.

 

00:06:03:05 - 00:06:09:17

Unknown

Even if a kid is dyslexic, that dad isn't.

 

00:06:09:19 - 00:06:32:17

Unknown

He's not going to be helping the kid as much with homework, right? Because it's going to be too frustrating, which is not. Why. Why aren't you doing it this way? Why aren't you doing it this way? You know the heads are going to be button, so the the mom takes the brunt of it. The homework, no matter what, you know, if she's working or not working.

 

00:06:32:17 - 00:06:53:03

Unknown

That's just. Just how it how it works. More empathy, more understanding. Right? So, you know, it's the I can't throw throw anything out, but mom takes and takes most of it and I understand it. Feels most of it. No, I think you said it perfectly because there's so many times where it's right a dad that that was like, yeah, oh yeah, we went through that.

 

00:06:53:03 - 00:07:14:03

Unknown

That was a struggle. And then it kind of is like, we don't want to talk about it. But the the watching your kids struggle in a different way, the way that you explain that. Right? The man's the protector. They want to fix it. Right. And this you can't fix. You can help, you can support. And the mom takes that mama bear kind of cub on and it's like, I'm going to go now.

 

00:07:14:03 - 00:07:35:06

Unknown

There's a lot of times I'm going to I've shared this before, so I won't get into it. But when I was handling it, when Dan was, you know, going to the city five days a ago, you know, you two are the prime example, correct? Right. But then I had to I finally was like, oh, I, you know, after like two meetings where I like broke down and then started cursing at someone, I was like, oh wait, I think, I think I need Dan in here.

 

00:07:35:08 - 00:07:50:05

Unknown

So then he was able to come and calm the situation, which was really helpful and also which sucks. And it still is this I mean, I know it's better. This is what Montgomery is going to be 21 in July. So this is you know, but it's still and my mom was the one that said it. And I got like annoyed at her.

 

00:07:50:05 - 00:07:54:07

Unknown

But then I was like, okay, I do see it.

 

00:07:54:09 - 00:08:11:20

Unknown

People react different when the man is involved, right? So it was like Dan came and he was like, nope, this is what you guys are going to do. And it was like, okay, Mr. Hahn, me, I brought the emotions into it. So it was like, oh, we're trying to manage this. And I didn't have the same voice. And listen, I was the stay at home mom.

 

00:08:11:20 - 00:08:29:16

Unknown

It is that typical. Whatever. I mean, where we where I was raising the kids, it was a very typical town that the, you know, a lot of moms stayed home. The dads were at work. It was a very typical traditional family back then. I know things were very different. But when he came in and was like, nope. This is how you're going to do it, I said, this is how you're going to do it.

 

00:08:29:16 - 00:08:45:13

Unknown

And I wasn't listened to the same way, and it was very annoying. But I did understand that. So it was like, okay, Dan came in, but he also brought a calmness to me. He was able to touch my leg under the table if he was like, take a deep breath. But he didn't say it. I just knew, okay, I don't have to take the brunt on this.

 

00:08:45:13 - 00:09:01:13

Unknown

I don't have to go home and then try to manage it all. Like he's going to hear things differently, and I'm going to pick up on things that are going to trigger me. He's going to hear things and kind of be able to root through and get to the, okay, honey, this is what we have to do kind of thing that's in our relationship.

 

00:09:01:15 - 00:09:32:02

Unknown

Yeah. He came in for those meetings, you know, and he supported stuff at home, but you still had to take them, you know. Oh, workload of it. Oh he, he didn't understand until I mean, I would say one of the times that I think he actually was like, oh wait, was he. I mean, maybe just the last ten years where he understands differently than he did when he was working because he didn't have to.

 

00:09:32:03 - 00:09:51:18

Unknown

He can compartmentalize. And it was like, okay, she's got that. That's that's a lot of stuff there. That's right. You know, I think that's the biggest, you know, point, you know, is that when we, you know, go to work, right. We still think about our family, but.

 

00:09:51:20 - 00:10:11:11

Unknown

Not really. It's a different way if that makes sense. Yeah. Very different. Yeah. You know so my wife is there for. Right. Just like you're at home folks. Who are the kids? You're not thinking about him at work. Yo, you're not thinking, oh, what meetings in. How's this meeting going? You know, you know, I should say, you know, you know, in a different form.

 

00:10:11:13 - 00:10:29:16

Unknown

What meetings are you now? I hope it's going well. You you can't. You've got a kid. Two kids, three kids, four kids, five kids, whatever that is. You know, that's not how it works. Can you come back? Your day converges back at the end of the day. So. Well when your kids struggling with dyslexia, when you're that that's a full day thing, right?

 

00:10:29:17 - 00:10:59:13

Unknown

Because now you're wondering how you know what classes he and you know, he or she is struggling or whatever that is. So that doesn't leave. So that's that's the biggest separation, you know, between the two. Because, you know, when they walk in that room or that school, the struggles, it doesn't end.

 

00:10:59:15 - 00:11:28:00

Unknown

And then for for that school, for the school day and the homework time. So from the time they go to school, the time they're done homework, they're struggling. Right? By that time, a lot of times the dad comes home, right? And doesn't seem in that yo turmoil. Right. Fair enough. Right. So but that's how long our turmoil.

 

00:11:28:02 - 00:11:54:16

Unknown

Lit. Right. All that you know, all day long. So y'all back to you know obviously the original question you know and a lot of the people that have that money right aren't going to support it because they've never really understood it. They've never been in the trenches of it. And some of them, like I said, are assholes. Some of them in my my network.

 

00:11:54:22 - 00:12:15:19

Unknown

So, you know, they don't care. They're fine. And the traumas will always be the number one thing that will always dictate and lead when it comes to the dyslexic world, you know?

 

00:12:15:21 - 00:12:24:10

Unknown

People say million times, well, why don't they talk more? Why don't they talk nobody.

 

00:12:24:12 - 00:12:46:04

Unknown

When was the last person that sat there and, you know, let's just use it. Reference your high school girls. Yeah. You know, I was fat, I thought I was fat, I am fat, yo, because obviously I use it. I use the term all the time. You know, you tell the high school girl she's 5 or 4 years, she believes it for her life.

 

00:12:46:06 - 00:13:10:08

Unknown

Just like you tell it. Just like, get their dumb, you know, their school years, they believe it. And people are responding with their fat. They don't go back and talk about that. You don't talk about that way. Oh, yeah, I'm dumb. That's not how it works. You want to hide yourself? You want to protect yourself. Why do I want to go back to those days, even if you've worked through it?

 

00:13:10:10 - 00:13:44:06

Unknown

Yeah. You weren't told for once, twice or three times that you're not good enough for. You're not. You're told. You're told 10,000,342 times a day and 10,000 those for yourself, telling yourself you're dumb because somebody else is. Because I couldn't keep up with, you know, Johnny over there. Sally over there. Why can't I do that reading book? Why can't I be on that level?

 

00:13:44:06 - 00:14:07:19

Unknown

Why can't I? You know, those are the things that goes on in our in our head. So 100%. And I know the part that we're going to disagree on is just very slightly because everything you said is so true. The part is like, I know people in my world that really I mean, I've said this to you like it is affected deep in my family, deep in friends.

 

00:14:07:19 - 00:14:25:15

Unknown

I have, you know, for years before I was even a part of the social foundation, I was the person that a lot of friends would recommend their friends to talk to me like, oh, Juliette's been through it and did it, and I would talk about it. There were a lot of really good people. However, they're not affected by it anymore because they got through it.

 

00:14:25:15 - 00:14:44:15

Unknown

And so it is like, I'm not talking about it. I'm not. And it's not even not talking about it. It's like, oh, I, I'm not donating to the foundation because there's something affecting me right now that I'm taking my money and time and, and donating. Even though dyslexia was something that was rooted in their family for years, you know, they cried, they were through it.

 

00:14:44:15 - 00:15:04:07

Unknown

I, you know, sat and talked to their kid. I talked to the parent. And it's the fact that, like something else is now on their mind that's more important. And I don't want to say it and I don't it's not a, it's not a that they're being assholes. It's just it's they they put that away. That was like a hard time in their life.

 

00:15:04:07 - 00:15:27:00

Unknown

That's the trauma that I put that away. I don't need to be like, oh wait, let me help because I can remember what that was like so I can help another family not go through it. And that's what I was saying to you. Like, there's some things that I definitely want to I want to change some of our narrative because on social media with a couple different things, because I do want to remind those people.

 

00:15:27:04 - 00:15:43:18

Unknown

Hey, let's try to help the other ones not go that we talk about it all the time. Right? This is why you started the foundation for the kid in the chair. That's why we do everything for the kid in the chair, so they don't have to experience what we experience, what our kids experience. And that's why we are so engulfed in it.

 

00:15:43:19 - 00:16:00:10

Unknown

Now, listen, if you didn't come into my life and I was, you know, going through this, I might be donating more to the dog Foundation because I'm right here, right now. Do you know what I mean? And I'm not an asshole, and I know that. But it's like once you're kind of out of, like, Montgomery is still obviously in it with school.

 

00:16:00:10 - 00:16:18:05

Unknown

My other two, I don't know that I would ever gotten them diagnosed. We talked about this. I think I probably would have been like, all right. Oh, you guys probably have this. It's kind of sucks, but sorry I missed it. And then just kind of not talked about it, but because I'm immersed in it every day with the foundation, but then also with my, you know, new you know what?

 

00:16:18:06 - 00:16:32:20

Unknown

It's not new anymore. But what I do with that tech. And now it's brought back all of my so much struggles like I've had to deal with. Oh my God. Okay, I got to go. You know, I've got to clean those closets out again. I clean them out mostly, but there were some things on the ground floor that I didn't realize.

 

00:16:32:20 - 00:16:51:04

Unknown

We're still there because of that. I know that obviously, now this is my life, right? This is. I'm. I will do this until the day I die. And even from up there, I will do it like I know that it's going up there. Since, you know, you're pretty confident on going up there. I know that we got to get up.

 

00:16:51:06 - 00:17:11:03

Unknown

But so that is there's, you know, so many friends or people that we are associated with will be like, hey, I want to connect you with this family. They are really good people. They had a kid. He's older, he's in his 20s, he's in the 30s. But they might want to get a part of the foundation. I mean, I can count, I could, I could show you lists of those.

 

00:17:11:03 - 00:17:29:09

Unknown

Right? And they are like, oh, that's so great. You guys are doing this. Oh we're good. And what do I always say to you when they start having grandkids? We have a whole group of people that are going to be like, Holy shit. Wait, I they all think I need the foundation again. You know, their kids are, you know, 20 going 20s or whatever.

 

00:17:29:09 - 00:17:53:11

Unknown

But, I mean, I chuckled, the grandkids are, you know, you're going to come across, you know, some of the traits and, and it's going to kick it up again for them. And, and and even worse, it's going to kick it up even worse. Because now they're not your kids.

 

00:17:53:13 - 00:18:25:23

Unknown

And so you can't tell them what to do. That wasn't you could advise them, but you just have to sit back, relax and enjoy the ride. And it's sometimes really hard because they aren't your kids, right. So you're not in control. And even though you, you know, as a parent, right. The old you gotta let them fall, you know, scrape their knee and be there to pick them up.

 

00:18:25:23 - 00:18:31:08

Unknown

Right. As a grandparent.

 

00:18:31:10 - 00:19:02:04

Unknown

You're not there to do that. You're just there to observe. But I'm the biggest, loudest toys and give them the most sugar. And when they're ready to come ask you for advice or help, then you can be there. But, it's it's even harder. Grandparents, even, you know, it's way more fun.

 

00:19:02:06 - 00:19:33:00

Unknown

Kids are assholes. Great. Grandkids are the best. Right. You can have you you you have fun with them, but they're not yours. So you can't dictate. You can't tell. You just have to sit back and watch. And then as a, you know, this, you know, in this situation that we're talking about, you've seen it before.

 

00:19:33:01 - 00:19:41:04

Unknown

And it brings up the old memories of the past. Oh.

 

00:19:41:06 - 00:20:15:22

Unknown

I remember that. But it hurts more because now it's your grandkid. Right. So now you're older, right now you're more observant, you're more aware, you got more understanding. You see what's going on. It hurts more, takes your breath away, I'm sure. And so, the people that say were good, it comes back with a vengeance, right? Not all the time.

 

00:20:15:22 - 00:20:43:10

Unknown

Right. May skip. May be slightly, but there's the. You know, there's a reason why the word hereditary is the biggest word in the dyslexic community left out. Because, you know, obviously autism and, you know, things we lost burgers and things that we talk about. We're learning disorders.

 

00:20:43:12 - 00:20:47:21

Unknown

The big H isn't connected to them.

 

00:20:47:23 - 00:21:07:12

Unknown

The big is connected to us. I mean, I still get surprised, but then not surprised. But it's always like that weird reaction when people are like, I don't really know that much about dyslexia. It's just flipping your B's and D's, right? And I always chuckle because I'm like, I mean, listen. No, it's not just about living your disease, but it always like surprises me.

 

00:21:07:12 - 00:21:29:17

Unknown

And then I'm like, well, no, why would they know about it? Right. They're not in the education world. They don't have friends and family. They don't, you know, then you always get the other person that's like, oh, my best friend was or oh, my cousin was or my nieces and I have some understanding, but it's not until you live it every day and you watch it and and you feel it and you go through it, that you truly have the understanding.

 

00:21:29:18 - 00:21:46:15

Unknown

I mean, that's one of the reasons why we scream from the rooftops. That's why we are doing, you know, the podcast and why you started the foundation. Because the more it is talked about, the more people can just be like, oh yeah, I know about dyslexia because X, Y, and Z and just have that understanding because it is going to show.

 

00:21:46:16 - 00:22:02:07

Unknown

I mean, it's 1 in 5 and it's hereditary. Like, think about those numbers. I'm not going to math, but I mean I understand those numbers. Well, you know, obviously it's the people that have led the charge and dyslexic world have failed the world.

 

00:22:02:09 - 00:22:05:11

Unknown

You know.

 

00:22:05:13 - 00:22:34:16

Unknown

Because, yeah, you know, I had it this weekend and guys like, you know, I don't know much about it, you know, and it's not their fault that they don't. It's the people have led the charge in the dyslexic world. It's their fault. Right. You haven't done anywhere remotely close to good and been piss poor effort on, you know, educating people on what that is.

 

00:22:34:16 - 00:22:59:07

Unknown

So it's not their fault. And the only correlation they know is flipping, you know, the bands, you know, you know, things that we talk about, you know, all the time. That's why we try and do what we do. And I mean, I, I think I sent it to you this weekend. I maybe didn't because I had a lot of stuff that I wanted to be like, look at this, look at this.

 

00:22:59:07 - 00:23:28:13

Unknown

And I was like, he's coaching. I'm going to pause, which was very difficult. There was another research article that popped through and it was like, I'm so glad we did more research on on dyslexia. And I literally I it took everything, everything for me to be like, I'm not going to comment. I'm going to put that down. It was through LinkedIn and it was like this group that always were talking about the research, more research, more research, and I just wanted to be like, you fucking idiots.

 

00:23:28:14 - 00:23:48:02

Unknown

Excuse me? But like, I stop, like, stop with the we know what should be done. We know what needs to be. There's so much that is knowledgeable about dyslexia that you idiots don't do like. It's. They are not in the streets. It's all up here. And it's not about the kid in the chair. It's all about. Let's have a dick swinging.

 

00:23:48:03 - 00:23:57:21

Unknown

Yeah. Dick swinging contest. All. They're all they're both. And that's all about their paychecks. Again, back to my point of mad people. Let it.

 

00:23:57:23 - 00:24:25:07

Unknown

Maddening. It's it is maddening. It's why, you know, we have these conversations, you know. You know, I met his coaching this weekend, obviously met a couple of kids, a couple dyslexic families connected with them. And and that's, you know, that's what we do. That's why we do it is, you know, to grow that community, grow the connection, you know, grow the understanding, you know, one person at a time.

 

00:24:25:08 - 00:24:47:05

Unknown

Because all the information that can be out there, obviously, you know, in the world of social media, what's right, what's the right information, what's wrong information, where where's the information about this state? But that state, what's going on? What bills have been passed, what's not, you know, science reading. You know, there's so much noise. Add noise. Yeah. To to what?

 

00:24:47:06 - 00:25:17:21

Unknown

You know, to to what's right. And you know, people go, oh, you're not your hockey player. Well, I'm, I'm a 49 year old professional intersex world live every day. Still struggle with it every day. It's dictated a lot of my life, good, bad, indifferent. My mental health is all correlated to, you know, to this and not theirs.

 

00:25:17:23 - 00:25:39:16

Unknown

Absolutely. And I mean, I think if you're listening to this and you're someone that's like, I mean, if you're listening to this, you're in the middle of it, right? There's not a lot of people listening to this that are not in the middle of it. But if you can think of people that are a part of your circle or a part of your school or a part of anything that you're like, you know what I know exactly.

 

00:25:39:16 - 00:25:55:05

Unknown

I know who those people are. And it's not that we're calling people out and being like, oh, shame on you. I'm not doing that. Like, that's not I understand, I really do, because when Montgomery was in the dyslexic school, I remember being like, oh, this feels so good not to have to fucking think about this for a little bit.

 

00:25:55:06 - 00:26:12:10

Unknown

Like, it was really nice. Now that I've chose to clean all the closets out and get to the depths of it, you know, I'm not going to turn my back on the kid in the chair. I know what these kids go through. I know how the you know, the narrative out there after Covid, oh, it's because of Covid that this is happening.

 

00:26:12:11 - 00:26:29:09

Unknown

I mean, there's tired of it. So hard of it. No, they struggled reading before. So fuck off. Like, yeah, Covid wasn't great. And no, there was a lot that came out of it. But I mean just stop. Like it's so many narratives and it's not about like the action. It's not about the troops on the ground. It's not about the people helping the kid in the chair.

 

00:26:29:09 - 00:26:47:16

Unknown

It's all this freaking noise and talking and talking circles. And then it's like, okay, we feel good about ourselves. And then the kid in the chair is in a school with the teacher being like, come on, don't be dumb. You can do this. And it's like, where is that? Why are you people so disconnected? It's because of all of the things we just talked about.

 

00:26:47:17 - 00:27:06:23

Unknown

There's the ego, there's that, you know, they don't know that they can make a change because they think what they're doing here is change enough and they feel good. They can go to bed because they're like, oh, I did my job today. And it's about the kid in the chair that wakes up every day. It's about the mom that sends her kid on the bus, goes inside and cries her eyes out because she's like, I know what he's gonna have them fucking endure today.

 

00:27:06:23 - 00:27:27:13

Unknown

And it's that that family that can't get the eyes on them because of the stupid shit that's going on with all the fucking people being like, well, no, this is what you have to do. And then all these teachers that there's some teachers that really do care and they want to make a difference, but they're handcuffed because the districts and how education is and it's been the same for how long and, you know, word blindness.

 

00:27:27:13 - 00:27:53:07

Unknown

I just did a post on a 1900. It was about, you know, that's when dyslexia was was even like, oh, wait, this is something. And we were still yes, there's more knowledge. Yes. The word is being said. So all of you that are not like, oh, there's change, there's some school district that there's so much that is not there's still 50% of prison inmates that are in prison that are dyslexic because they were not seen and heard, because they were that kid in the chair that no one fucking cared about.

 

00:27:53:09 - 00:28:22:09

Unknown

So people will say, there's been change. I'll argue that all day long. What change? Oh, there. You know, they're working on new tests to try and identify early. You know, you know, new universal screenings, waste. It's just a waste of money. It's not doing anything. So just because the words out there.

 

00:28:22:11 - 00:28:49:13

Unknown

No, you know, it's full of a lot of BS along along the way here on on that. But you know, in time we'll, we'll, you know the foundation, what we got going on, some of the projects, you know, we'll take care of that. But it's, you know, a story. I remember somebody his somebody close to his sister been teaching for 20 or 25 years.

 

00:28:49:15 - 00:28:54:14

Unknown

I remember vividly, you know.

 

00:28:54:16 - 00:29:21:10

Unknown

When she got tendered as a teacher. And I think that's after five years or ten years or something like, I can't get fired now. They got pension for life, all that bullshit. Well, her her niece is dyslexic. So teach for 20, 25 years. So take, you know, take your percentage of how many kids that she's taught, you know, now you go two years ago, got your nephew.

 

00:29:21:12 - 00:29:50:00

Unknown

You're sorry your nephew tested. It's just, like, sick. And have you ever, ever asked a question to me about it? No. I think she's the best. Think she's the rocket science of teaching, right. And she tenure don't have to worry about. But you've had a negative impact on.

 

00:29:50:01 - 00:30:20:21

Unknown

What, a thousand kids. And you don't give a flying fuck. So you know again, that's not that's not all teachers 100%. But I'm going to say it's most you know, I was this weekend right. You know the group of coach you know people I was with, you know four of them were teachers right. Four of them were teachers in out of 13 kids.

 

00:30:20:23 - 00:30:44:08

Unknown

Right. So and they'll back there. All right. 2025 year teaching. And you've never asked a question and you're you're nothing. And so it's in the family, but you don't see the need or the want or to learn more about it or trying to understand it to build help them know, okay, that just tells me where your head's at in your classroom with your kids.

 

00:30:44:08 - 00:31:12:03

Unknown

So how is that going to get any better? So I want to say two things and then I know we'll wrap this up, but if you and I were to go into kindergarten, first grade, second grade class, we would be able to identify every kid and every dyslexic kid. Dyscalculia, I think, is something that like is a little bit later because there's like, you know, the number grasping and how they're being taught and all of that.

 

00:31:12:03 - 00:31:39:15

Unknown

I think that's to me, this is this is my personal opinion, right? This is my personal opinion. But if we were to go in and observe a class for a week, I'm telling you right now, we would be able to and be like these kids right here. And then if we talk to the parents, we'd be able to say, okay, you're diagnosed or identified because we're not neuroscience, but it is the handcuffs of the school.

 

00:31:39:15 - 00:32:02:23

Unknown

So I'm going to I think there's a lot of teachers that do care, but they can't because of the schools of business. And then I also do think, and this is I know we think this differently, but I do think that there's some people that they think they know the best, but they also can't wrap their head around knowing more because they don't know that they would actually be able to do anything because they don't understand.

 

00:32:03:00 - 00:32:21:17

Unknown

They don't have it. So they don't like they can't comprehend. If they knew more how they would be able to make a difference because they think that they know. And it's not like they think they know with an ego. I know people that when I will describe something, then they're like, oh, I never you know what? Shit, I never thought about that.

 

00:32:21:18 - 00:32:36:14

Unknown

Right? Like, I mean, we've had judges say to my God, I never thought about, you know, and it's I really think that a lot of people are in their heads in the right place, that they do want to do the right thing, but they don't think outside the box. They're linear, they don't think outside. They don't know how they can be more creative.

 

00:32:36:15 - 00:32:57:23

Unknown

They don't are not as empathetic. There's a lot of things that go about it, but it's not like they're, trying. I mean, and you agree with this, trying negatively to impact, but it's because they're like, oh, I know this. I get it. And they don't, but they can't truly grasp and understand it. And so they don't even ask the questions.

 

00:32:58:00 - 00:33:01:19

Unknown

They may not be trying, but they are.

 

00:33:01:21 - 00:33:21:20

Unknown

All right. We'll leave it at that mic drop. Thank you for listening to another episode of Word Blindness, just like you expose. Share this with seriously with people that you know, you might just have someone in your world that's like, know if they haven't watched, listen to the podcast, they don't think they need to. This is one that is going to get people thinking.

 

00:33:21:20 - 00:33:30:06

Unknown

All of them get people thinking, but this one is going to have them think on a different level because it's going to question themselves. No one likes to question themselves, but that's how we become better people.