S4E31: The Power of Understanding Learning Differences

This engaging conversation explores dyslexia, learning differences, and the importance of understanding individual learning styles. The hosts share personal stories, insights into testing and labels, and how embracing unique brains can empower us all.

 

Chapters

 

00:00 Understanding Dyslexia and Its Impact

08:05 The Role of Testing in Education

16:06 Personal Experiences with Learning Disabilities

24:37 Navigating Life with Dyslexia

32:14 Curiosity and Learning in Everyday Life

 

Transcript

 

00:00:01:11 - 00:00:18:08

Unknown

You don't leave it up for you. I really. You're the starter. No. Because you guys also. If you're watching YouTube, you saw the faces. I said to you, I don't have anything completely specific. However, now you know what? I do actually have something specific. Thank you. I know you're like, hit record. It's going to come to you. See?

 

00:00:18:10 - 00:00:41:19

Unknown

How well do you know my brain? Okay, so I can't. I'm trying to think because I had so many, so many conversations the last week about dyslexia and just in a different, very interesting way. And I'm not going to name names. So I'm trying to think of how I can do this. There was a young man that we started talking and we probably talked for like three hours.

 

00:00:41:20 - 00:01:02:16

Unknown

Really great kid. He has not diagnosed dyslexia but is dyslexic, is in college. And one of the things he said was I didn't get diagnosed because my parents didn't want the label to hurt me in the future. And I said, okay, I want to know more about that, both military and.

 

00:01:02:18 - 00:01:18:04

Unknown

They were like, if it's on your label, it could hurt you if you want to go into the military when he was a child. So I was like, okay, I understand that. And I said, well, was it hard? And he's like, well, yeah. There was times I was like, I can't do this because neither of them were diagnosed.

 

00:01:18:04 - 00:01:37:02

Unknown

And so then I was like, well, I want to I want to dig into this. His mom was the one that helped him with pretty much everything. And he's like, I think she might be some, but not as much as I am. And so I kind of have a feeling it's the it's the dad. But again, I don't know either of them.

 

00:01:37:02 - 00:01:54:12

Unknown

But I said to him like, how how was it? And he was super personable, had a lot of friends. Like he knows one of my my kids and like like when he was talking I was like, oh my God, you're so hard. Just like sick. Then he sends me a contact and he accidentally sent me the wrong contact and we were just laughing.

 

00:01:54:12 - 00:02:08:22

Unknown

And I was like, it just was really endearing. And so I was able to really talk to him about the work that I do with the Sobell Foundation, and what I've done since Montgomery was little. And and we had a really interesting conversation. I'm going to let you jump in because I feel like, well, you have something to say.

 

00:02:09:00 - 00:02:34:03

Unknown

You know, we talk about unions being about 30 to 40% dyslexic. So our military, my buddy, you know, I just got off the phone with lives, lives down the road. He was a marine long snapper for 18 years. You know, he's severely dyslexic, trying to buy a house. So he calls me, you know, 50 times. Ask the wife this.

 

00:02:34:03 - 00:03:06:10

Unknown

I don't know how to fill this out when I, you know, but he's the one that told me he was 100%, 30 to 40% of it are right. And you, you know, and you right, you know, you can't have any labels and labels isn't the right word. You can't have anything, you know, disabilities, disabilities. You can have allergies, you know, like to your eye eyes like so I, I understand that, but, he's the one that told me so.

 

00:03:06:12 - 00:03:28:09

Unknown

Obviously I can relate to the union workers, you know, outside of the not, you know, not the Marines. You know, not not military, not, you know, Navy, any of that kind of stuff. But he's the one that told me he's like, yeah, 30 to 40%. 100% are because all we have to do is get past that one test and we make it, you know, and we make it in life.

 

00:03:28:09 - 00:03:57:18

Unknown

And this guy, you know, on a group text with my oldest and they talk about guns and he'll tell you every nook and cranny of every single guy like. And he was an ox ever. So he was a guy that, you know, if they were going in there, they drop him in with his dogs 2 or 3 days, and he'd sit there and in the woods or wherever they put them and snipe people off to protect those guys.

 

00:03:57:19 - 00:04:16:00

Unknown

And, you know, so he's he's the one that told me that he's at 100%, you know, we just got one test, one test to pass. Right. And so that's what this kid was saying. And I think he said that he passed the test. And then he decided he wanted to play college soccer. And so he, you know, wanted to go that route.

 

00:04:16:00 - 00:04:40:01

Unknown

But I forget and I could be forgetting maybe he didn't do well and I don't remember, but and it's interesting because my dad, obviously super dyslexic, went into the Marines. You know, his his brother was Yale and Harvard, you know, attorney, he did his law degree at one and undergrad at the other. And my dad, we had a really good conversation with my dad this past week.

 

00:04:40:01 - 00:05:06:20

Unknown

And I was dying because his innate confidence and I was like, he goes, oh, it's he's like, I never felt dumb. I always thought that others. And I was like, dad, you weren't allowed to go to to religion because they were like, you're dumb. And he's like, yeah, but I didn't feel dumb. My dad has a really interesting and my older sister, and this is why when I was growing up, I didn't equate myself with them because they know so many facts about things.

 

00:05:06:22 - 00:05:24:13

Unknown

Like anything you have a question about, my dad can give you the fact and it's always right. He is a knowledge like we're driving on the highway. He's like, do you see the shape of that sign? That means it's federal versus, you know, whatever. There's so many little details of life that he knew, and he was always like that.

 

00:05:24:13 - 00:05:42:06

Unknown

So he was always giving us so and my older sister's the same way and I don't that's not that's not me. I don't hold facts of that sort. If I'm interested in something, I will be able to understand it. But I don't know, like random facts of like the world, like history and all of these that they know so much.

 

00:05:42:06 - 00:06:01:23

Unknown

And so my dad going in, he said, you know, it wasn't it wasn't anything like he had to take one test. It was better. He was in junior college at the time, but he also graduated high school at 17. He was the youngest. I didn't have his driver's license. He was April. And and so it's just an interesting thought.

 

00:06:01:23 - 00:06:20:02

Unknown

But that test, I was like, weren't you nervous of that? He's like, yeah, I sucked the test. I failed everything. He's like, I had. I couldn't get into court. Like I could not get into any colleges. Do you know what the test is like? What the written portion is? No, I want to find that out. Yeah. I think, you know, if anybody, any listeners know.

 

00:06:20:04 - 00:06:44:22

Unknown

Actually, I'll call call Mike today, you know, to kind of elaborate on this conversation like, what is it? You know, for an example, people always ask me, hey, are you going to get your us, you know, citizens citizenship? And I said, no, because I'm not writing the tests of I think it's a 128 questions now. Like, absolutely not.

 

00:06:44:22 - 00:07:01:16

Unknown

And one friend that that having politics and you know, in Washington it's like just ask for, you know, your exemption your your your combinations combinations. Yeah. Like 128 questions.

 

00:07:01:18 - 00:07:23:06

Unknown

Maybe the first two numbers. The 12 might be hard, but you want to add an eight to that back of that. Not a chance. I'll stick to my green card. You know, every ten years, you know grandma will sponsor me for my green card. But, you know, just for, you know, that portion of it. So I'd be interested to see what that test was.

 

00:07:23:07 - 00:07:44:07

Unknown

And has it changed? Like it can't be. So it can't be the same when your dad took it to to what? They're taking it now, but I would assume not. But nothing surprises me. Be interesting to see what that what that test is, you know, is it multiple choice? Like, I can't even guess. I don't even know. I don't even know what you know.

 

00:07:44:13 - 00:08:04:20

Unknown

What would you test for in that kind of stuff? Can you know I swim like a rock? No, I fail that. So, But they found their way through it. Your dad and Mike and plenty. Plenty more. Plenty more. So this is the other thing that's fascinating, right? You ready for this? I'm going to I'm going to go down some holes.

 

00:08:04:20 - 00:08:26:11

Unknown

Rabbit holes. So one of the things that always fascinates me is the fact that sometimes when you are. I think it's it's supposed to be your path. So it becomes easier. You figure it out. Now, I know not everyone thinks that, and so I'm not going to go down that. However, like so my dad was in real estate and he took and I said, dad, I never shared this with you.

 

00:08:26:11 - 00:08:44:06

Unknown

And I didn't realize this, but like when everyone was like, why didn't you go into real estate? My grandmother was the first real a tour in new Jersey. Woman. So like, it's deep in our blood like that. The Williams were that was like huge. My grandfather owned his own business. I was not going to take that test. And I remember being like, wait, you have to take a test.

 

00:08:44:07 - 00:09:01:03

Unknown

Okay. I'm not. So it never even crossed my mind because of the test. And, and and I never really equated it to that, you know, I mean, we talked about I went into advertising sales and I had to take tests. I didn't know I had to take math tests. I didn't know that part. But I knew that you had to take a test to be a realtor.

 

00:09:01:03 - 00:09:20:21

Unknown

So when you can be so good at something or it is your path, you're going to find a way. And it could be harder when you're taking the test. But if you were so interested, like they say about attention deficit, like how come Attention deficit can do this? But then they can't do that, right? How can they sit and focus on this and they can't do that.

 

00:09:20:21 - 00:09:42:01

Unknown

And then that's where they're like, well, that's lazy. Because if you can do this, you can do that. No. When your brain is lit up and you're getting that dopamine and you're excited and you're like, okay, I want this. Like, this is lighting me up inside. You're like, you're a Christmas tree on the inside. Your body is going to get you through it, and it's not going to be the same sort of anxiety of like a citizenship test, right?

 

00:09:42:01 - 00:10:02:06

Unknown

Because you're like, I can kind of work this way. I don't have to do it right. And it's when you when. And I don't even know if I'm explaining this correctly because I don't always have the words for it, but like, we can get things done. Like my friend that is the in in in the movies. He's a he does he does the focus.

 

00:10:02:08 - 00:10:23:05

Unknown

He is. Yeah. He's a I mean attention deficit by a thousand. The most active dyslexic. All of he's got all the deeds like he's he's like us. He's got four of the days. He can sit there for hours just hitting a little thing, focusing. And I'm like, oh my God. Like, how does your attention. He's like, I don't know.

 

00:10:23:05 - 00:10:42:09

Unknown

It's the craziest thing because he can over focus, because he's so into getting it right and having it like he's, he's he's like, I'm obsessed with it. I love my job. I love it every day. It doesn't matter where I am. You know, you're in some really. He's away from the family for months. He just sits there and focuses and is really, really good at it.

 

00:10:42:10 - 00:11:03:21

Unknown

Like is one of the ones that sought out to focus on there filming a movie. He's the guy. He's, you know, just searching contents because focus. So he's the guy when they're filming a movie that sits and make sure it's exactly perfect and focused the whole time they're shooting that movie. So it's, you know, for 12 hours days, just making sure that the light doesn't change or the focus doesn't change.

 

00:11:03:21 - 00:11:20:18

Unknown

So I couldn't do that for half a second. No. Right. I mean, he also used to ride his bike to work like a hundred miles a day. Like he does not sit still when I tell you he is the most active human. Like when you meet, like, if you ever met him, you'd be like, oh wow, he's got a tension.

 

00:11:20:20 - 00:11:57:02

Unknown

Like there's no. And he can sit and do that. And that's like when you're really like something, your body and mind figure it out to an extent. Well, yeah. You know, and some you know, it's almost tests obviously. You know it'd be interesting with that real estate I know the real estate test. There's a lot of memorizing. There's pages and hours and it's like a three hour test or something like it's not, you know, and then go back to the the military Marines, whatever the tests are, I'm sure it's nothing like that.

 

00:11:57:04 - 00:12:25:06

Unknown

I'm sure they're not writing essays or, you know, so I think I'm an I don't know, it's just yeah, we'll find those. Yeah. We'll find out more. But and you know, for us, you know, as soon as you heard the test, the word test, I shut down. Right. Shut down no matter. No. No matter what it is. But, there's different lengths of tests.

 

00:12:25:08 - 00:12:59:02

Unknown

Different tests. You'll. Is it. You know, you're going through it right now. Like applying for colleges, like writing essays. Like I can't write an essay. I can write two sentences. I can both point anything to the best of us. But you want me to put more words around that? No. You know, so I guess it also depends on what is kind of in context to that.

 

00:12:59:04 - 00:13:29:01

Unknown

Go. For dyslexic, I would probably say one of the hardest tests are our multiple choice tests. People are going to be like, why? Because most of the multiple choices, if there's an A, B, C, d answer, they're not four different answers. They flip a word or two in between a couple of those I know you're gonna say, yeah, and we'll never get y'all.

 

00:13:29:02 - 00:14:06:02

Unknown

So now if a multiple choice had four drastically different answers than to be very easy, you can't say very easy, but a lot easier. Easier, right. But they always make them, instead of, you know, they just flip one word, one letter and never get that. Never. And that also for just graphic because my so all three of my kids, at some point they were like, I, I fucked that one up because I, I read that thing wrong or I would ever.

 

00:14:06:02 - 00:14:25:22

Unknown

So like even my two just graphic kids, I know that that also they were like, oh, it was great because it's like a trick. And then your mind goes. Now also, if we have to write a paragraph and all of that, you're talking about the and I totally get that because reading it and then you're reading all the answers and you're like, well, it can't be this, oh my God, did I read it is crazy.

 

00:14:25:22 - 00:14:29:09

Unknown

I also think.

 

00:14:29:11 - 00:14:48:18

Unknown

The traumas that are associated around test for us, there are severity for some versus others. So like my dad was like, I hate a test. You know, he's like, I sucked at test. However, the real the real estate test, I was like, I know this, I'm going to take it. Right? So because as I said, he knows a lot of like information.

 

00:14:48:19 - 00:15:06:06

Unknown

He's like, I did not stress about that at all. And I'm like, oh wow. Now anyone says test to me. It brings me right back to the SATs. That fucked me, right? So I have like a huge trauma around the SATs and tests. Not saying that test give me more anxiety than the next person, but I think someone that just maybe failed them sucked.

 

00:15:06:07 - 00:15:25:17

Unknown

Hated it. But they don't have like a one specific time that they remember or they just, you know, it's so different for each person. I also hated I always knew that a lot of times I knew the information or I thought I knew the information, and then I would fail the test because they would change the wording and I had memorized what.

 

00:15:25:18 - 00:15:36:17

Unknown

Right. So like that is a definite thing for people that learn different. I mean oh yeah, there's. Yeah.

 

00:15:36:19 - 00:16:05:04

Unknown

Souza's test. The word test I shut down. So absolutely. I never had to say I never I never heard the word I was there was zero zero what option I was going to play junior hockey. Just give me my 50%. That's what I was passing. I'll take every mile take for 50s. And now thank you very much. So there was I never had to go down that rabbit hole because there was no.

 

00:16:05:06 - 00:16:31:08

Unknown

And when I mean, there was no chance or even conversations about me going to a school after high school. Yeah. So I didn't even know I was, I, I still didn't even know. I still don't even know what the acts and and I still don't even know understand them. I don't even people say I got 722 or I got hours.

 

00:16:31:13 - 00:16:51:09

Unknown

I still don't even know what that means. And I don't care to know. I just know it's dumb. It's well, it's yeah, I don't even 100% of it is dumb. It doesn't. It does not give. And it gives you information that you've learned throughout the years of school. But it's see, that's the thing right there. I didn't learn shit.

 

00:16:51:12 - 00:17:21:16

Unknown

Right. Exactly. So and then if you. Yeah, it is I mean I don't even get me sorry. It's it's doesn't and I remember you know, I know some people that you know they, they get tutors and they study for a year to pass these tests. So like it's a money. It's all money. It's so stupid. It is. So I did not get a tutor for either of my.

 

00:17:21:17 - 00:17:40:23

Unknown

And people will say if she's like, I am getting tutor it. It's a you're studying to pass a test, like to get a score on a test and you're not retaining its it is such a stupid thing when they Covid when they're like, we're going to kind of not take the SAT test because they knew all of the things that the kids didn't learn.

 

00:17:40:23 - 00:18:02:00

Unknown

But that's the other thing is, like you're learning things that you don't need, you don't need in life unless, oh, I know, I don't know, some of my is there any history? And on those tests. Yes, there's history of dumb. History's dumb, I know, but that's the one thing that I enjoy because I actually it was okay in history.

 

00:18:02:00 - 00:18:27:01

Unknown

You want to know what happened in 1812? I know, were you there, who wrote it and what kind of paper? What did they do with the paper? With what pen? I know, I mean, it's like it's like, what is the the game where it's like, whisper down the lane. It always changes. Like you whisper down the lane. You said this is.

 

00:18:27:02 - 00:18:46:12

Unknown

It's a game. And tell us what. Yeah. Yes, it's called or it's telephone. Do you know neither of these games? No. Okay. So no, you have a group of people and someone says something like a sentence or something, it can be something random. And then they have to tell the next person. They whisper it. The next person has to whisper it.

 

00:18:46:12 - 00:19:04:16

Unknown

The next person has to whisper in. The next person is to whisper it when I tell you any time I've ever played that throughout my all my years, it never is. The it never is the same thing. It always gets changed. Someone hears a different, someone repeats it different. So history. It just makes me laugh because I'm like, it has been changed a billion times.

 

00:19:04:17 - 00:19:23:00

Unknown

Like we really don't know exactly what happened for your your reasoning. And then they, you know, I mean, look at the last five years, they're like, that's not what happened. This is what happened. And it's like we've been taught like this all the time. Where did you get that? Did you open some tomb? No. So I understand what you're saying.

 

00:19:23:00 - 00:19:31:22

Unknown

I like the stories around it, so I enjoy it because I can comprehend it. Yeah, I.

 

00:19:32:00 - 00:19:54:16

Unknown

I got so much to say, but you're not going to say it. No. Well, now I want you to say it. It's hard, you know, I have a hard time with it all, you know? And I hate the, you know, the the history bullshit. And, you know, it's hard enough to live date today for these 24 hours. Right.

 

00:19:54:18 - 00:19:57:21

Unknown

And.

 

00:19:57:23 - 00:20:17:20

Unknown

Going back and trying to leave the world in a better place and where we are today. And how are you helping people today and what's going on today? It's hard enough. You want to focus on things you you know, nobody is around for.

 

00:20:17:22 - 00:20:38:19

Unknown

Right, I hear you. I can't keep half of us listen to this podcast, can't keep a plant live for a month. But they somehow some miraculous paper lasted for, you know, 20,000 years with some pen that they pulled out of a carved out of a tree with word. They get the ink from, from their butthole. Like, where did that come from?

 

00:20:38:21 - 00:21:01:08

Unknown

Like, oh my ball. If I, I get yelled at if I bring it to bed because then the ink goes in the sheets and then but like that doesn't last for 200 years. This just highlight like so what? Fair enough. I totally I totally hear you. I do, I totally hear you. That's the foundation. That's just, you know, my you know, it's been for me.

 

00:21:01:09 - 00:21:30:00

Unknown

You know, it's been hard enough just to live day by day, right? You know, with the struggles that we're talking with, the podcast and the foundation and dyslexia, obviously, you know, I was focused in hockey my whole life that got taken away. And then really my life changed because what I was good at and it and now all my traumas and all my struggles with all my learning, young came up, you know, and started kicking me in the head at 40.

 

00:21:30:00 - 00:21:47:22

Unknown

Right. And it's a hard time to to do it. So it's trying to live on a daily basis and get better on a daily basis and try and change and do the right thing and be there for people. Like that's a lot in one day. And this is going to bring me. I love that you just said that.

 

00:21:47:22 - 00:22:06:14

Unknown

Love meaning not like, oh, yay, I'm so glad that you're struggling. Not that kind of love, but I think you brought up a very important point. And we talked about this with the call that we had last week, and the person was saying, I don't know how, you know, learning about dyslexia. I don't know how you guys get through this and that.

 

00:22:06:14 - 00:22:27:18

Unknown

That's not fair. This should be this and this should be that. And I stopped her and I said, okay, this is not us feeling. It's not feeling sorry for ourselves. There's a part I understand. Yes. It's like, oh, but we're not on here being like, woe is me. This like, feel bad for us in this way. It's not that.

 

00:22:27:18 - 00:22:51:15

Unknown

And so I want people to really understand it. We live in a day, both of us, you know, on on you and I, the things that we have to do on a daily basis, that screen, like our dyslexia or whatever, our D's are like, okay, you have to figure this out. And for any other person that has learning disabilities, every day you're faced with it and every day you have to figure it out to live.

 

00:22:51:16 - 00:23:11:05

Unknown

Right? I mean, to survive in this world, we have to figure it out. We are not here saying like, oh, the world sucks because they're making us do this. And yes, there's things that it's annoying, but we understand that's life and we have to figure it out. And we know we have to figure out we want to make it easier on the individual person so they understand how they learn.

 

00:23:11:05 - 00:23:34:04

Unknown

So when they're going to figure it out, they can be like, okay, this is going to suck, but I'm going to figure it out because either my my job or school or whatever, you have to get it done. But we want to make it where there's knowledge around it. So it's not you're feeling alone and you're feeling beat up every time you're doing it because you're like, does anyone else have to like, you know, read 14 pages of a scientific thing?

 

00:23:34:04 - 00:23:49:11

Unknown

And I'm like, oh my God, okay, I'm going to listen to it. I didn't retain any of that. Now I got to look at it. You know, there's things that we have to do because of our jobs or the life that we're doing. Your with the with the foundation, all the stuff that you're doing behind the scenes for the hockey event.

 

00:23:49:12 - 00:24:11:03

Unknown

All of the little details and all the little schedules and all the things that you have to do for it, it takes a lot of brainpower and it takes a lot of patience, and it takes a lot of self-love being like, okay, that sucked, but guess what? I got through it. Instead of beating ourselves up and being like, you idiot!

 

00:24:11:04 - 00:24:32:12

Unknown

Why'd you do it that way? So we are doing this because we want the other people out there that don't have the knowledge to be like, yeah, you're going to have to deal with a lot of shit, but we want you to be as strong internally and mentally as possible. Do you agree with that? Yeah, 100%. And, you know, the other one is it's.

 

00:24:32:14 - 00:25:00:00

Unknown

They always, you know, the one thing that's always like, you know, poor me. Right. As you mentioned. No, I've never actually thought about what if I didn't have any of these. I've never once ever, ever thought about it. It is what I have and it's what I have. So we never come at it as a poor me ever.

 

00:25:00:00 - 00:25:26:05

Unknown

I've never, like I said, I just never I've never actually thought about what it would be laid not to have it. It's me. It's part of me. It's what it is. We talk about it as education around what it is. Never, ever do we ever take it. As you know, poor me. Feel bad for me ever, right? You know, and get that all the time feeling sorry for.

 

00:25:26:06 - 00:25:34:15

Unknown

No, I'm not, not, not at all. Just telling you what I've got to go through on a daily basis. Right.

 

00:25:34:17 - 00:26:02:08

Unknown

That's all. Just trying to inform you of what we deal with. So you have understanding, so you have understanding and maybe you're a little gentler. And you don't call someone retarded when they're reading out loud. Well, you don't call people. What's that line from that TV show that Rick loves? You don't call. You only call your friends retarded when they're acting retarded.

 

00:26:02:10 - 00:26:20:18

Unknown

I don't know that when I get that. There's another line to that. It's the office. I don't know what. Yeah, he there's a line. You don't you don't call. I don't want to say we're tired of people are tired of. You only call your friends retards when they're acting retarded. Something like that. Yeah, but no. But. Right. I mean, but it's right.

 

00:26:20:18 - 00:26:37:18

Unknown

It's the kindness. Approach it with kindness. People are not on purposely not being able to read out loud like no one. And we've talked about this from the beginning. We haven't said this, you know, for a long time, but we're never going into school being like, let me see how I can mess up. A first grader in a kindergarten are not messing up on purpose.

 

00:26:37:21 - 00:26:59:21

Unknown

They're not not trying hard on purpose. And that's what's really important. And there is the label that those kids get like, oh, they're just fuck ups, right? They don't care. They're silly. They can't sit still. All of these things, they're trying. And when you put that label on them and they feel discarded because what we've talked about a million times, people that learn different are usually more internally sensitive.

 

00:26:59:21 - 00:27:17:19

Unknown

So they can feel when they're irritating a teacher and, you know, and so if you could just that's why we're doing it. And I love that you said that, because I think there's times people probably think that we're like, poor us or woe is me. And that is never it. I wouldn't change the things I would have changed is how teachers approached me, but I wouldn't change how I am.

 

00:27:17:19 - 00:27:45:21

Unknown

I think I'm fabulous. Yeah, I don't, she's just like the hat your husband bought you. Yeah, I like attention. I don't need attention, I like attention, I can find attention, I like it, but I've never, never once ever thought about me. It's it's information. It's knowledge. It's knowledge is powerful. And you talked about your your dad and your sister knowing a ton of stuff.

 

00:27:45:21 - 00:28:05:12

Unknown

I've got so much useless information. If anybody wants to know about Costco and McDonald's, got it all day long after that, I got nothing for it. I can't play jeopardy, can't play Will of fortune. Fucking none of that shit done. Can't play trivia. Somebody said the other day, wants to play trivia. I'm like, let's go to the dentist instead.

 

00:28:05:14 - 00:28:22:02

Unknown

Like that's about the same. Actually, I'm pretty good at trivia Tim extent. I actually sometimes win, and then they're like, how did you come out? I'm like, I don't know, it just was coming to me. I don't know where it came from, but I apparently have this knowledge somewhere in my brain. I got, I got I got great knowledge of Costco and McDonald's.

 

00:28:22:02 - 00:28:43:21

Unknown

But, you know, you I want to, but I'm not going to do this because I know you're not saying this for any other reason. You actually do have. There's times where I'm like, that's interesting. You have a lot of knowledge and things that, yeah, you know, we retain a lot of information farming. I mean, first of all, like you, I know well, but I'm on the farm.

 

00:28:43:21 - 00:29:01:17

Unknown

I know, but you could have like just went through the motions was going to be if I wasn't, if I wasn't going to be an octopus or I was no Canadian farmer. Right. And be shoveling snow. They still have a foot of snow at home right now. Oh geez. But you do like the sun and the directions and like, there's things that I'm like, oh, how do you know that?

 

00:29:01:17 - 00:29:19:02

Unknown

And then you usually equate it back to something, you know, where you got that knowledge. But you do have some people might think it's random knowledge, but it's actually very interesting, I mean, interesting knowledge. I would put you in the category of my sister and my dad. If you said you'd be like, oh, right. I think you probably would know some of the things that they were talking about.

 

00:29:19:03 - 00:29:36:18

Unknown

I'm just going to leave it there. Right. We leave it there. Oh, no, I want you to finish. You had you were me. Yeah. I want a dog goes a daycare on a day. How many buttholes did they sniff? How many dogs are in in their day? Because it's probably 3 or 4 times a day to each dog day.

 

00:29:36:19 - 00:30:04:19

Unknown

I was like, you know, maybe a dog for a day, like, what's it smell like? What is their sense of smell like? Isn't it like times 1 million or 10 million? So what? What would a butthole times a million smell like to the dog? I mean, I'm pretty bad, I would think. Well, they keep going back. We had Paul and the kids came over and they brought the, you know, Bruce Bruce was over yesterday and running around playing and they're just first thing you do.

 

00:30:04:21 - 00:30:22:17

Unknown

Yeah. That's how they introduce each other. We shake hands and girls hug and dog sniff. Interesting. I'm going to leave at that. But I know actually I'm not going to leave it at that. I have one thing to say. There's this app that I found and I shouldn't say I found it. This woman reached out to me. It's called I actually forget what it's called.

 

00:30:22:18 - 00:30:45:19

Unknown

I'll tell it next time. Very interesting. It was all about curiosity. So she found me because of curious to know and I started diving into it and I'm like, oh my God, I'm obsessed. There's a picture of what human, how humans see, how a BCS and how a dog sees and the color. Well, Kivi, I thought, sometimes think she is blind.

 

00:30:45:20 - 00:31:02:02

Unknown

Right. And she there'll be. The other day there was a stink bug between her littler between her feet. She's staring at it. Couldn't see it, couldn't see it. But then she'll see a squirrel half a mile away. Yeah, yeah. I have to send you this because you'll be like, The stink bug was this color that the shade that they don't really see.

 

00:31:02:03 - 00:31:15:07

Unknown

I used to think Doyle was. There was a couple of times where I actually went and brought him. I was like, I don't see Brown. No. It's like almost like all tan. Everything's almost all tan with like a little bit of color. It's kind of a little bit of sand. But. So my question is how do they know that?

 

00:31:15:08 - 00:31:32:19

Unknown

Because they put a, a camera, they gave you the whole how they actually saw it. And it was fascinating. When I tell you this app is like it's called the humane space. That's what it's called, the humane space. It is the coolest different sounds. Oh my God, I oh it's the and they have audio and you can read.

 

00:31:32:19 - 00:31:57:09

Unknown

It's so fucking cool. Since I was informed by my wife were going to be a foster house for puppy dogs. Yay! Oh, I'm so excited. No, I said just don't lie to me. You want to get a beagle? Because we're not fostering. Because whenever it comes into the four walls, it ain't leaving. So let's well remember my foster story.

 

00:31:57:09 - 00:32:26:11

Unknown

I didn't have a choice on they. They just didn't. Wisconsin. They they're testing on on the ozone kills. There's like 15. They just released like 1500 probably so far. Not far from not far from here. So where we got Kiva, what do they get? 300. Oh paws got like 100 like. So they got 1500 of these beagles that are going to be distributed around the US for, for adoption.

 

00:32:26:12 - 00:32:42:20

Unknown

So. Oh, Kiva does need a friend. I don't need you in. Listen to. Oh, my God, are you kidding? Oh, she's. Oh, she needs a sister. So that's what it is. Not a friend, a sister.

 

00:32:42:22 - 00:32:53:02

Unknown

Okay, so it's not going to be a boy dog. It's just right. Right. Not a brother. It's not a brother, a sister. It's so cute. Oh, my God, I love it. Okay, we're going to leave it at that.