S4E34: Building the 5D Collective - A Community for Neurodiverse Kids and Parents

 

In this heartfelt conversation, Juliet and Brent discuss their personal journeys with the 5Ds, the importance of community, and the launch of the 5D Collective to support parents and individuals with dyslexia and related conditions. They share insights on understanding, acceptance, and creating safe spaces for connection and growth.

 

Chapters

 

00:00 Introduction and Podcast Journey

02:56 Understanding Dyslexia and Personal Experiences

05:59 The Emotional Impact of Dyslexia

08:59 The Importance of Community and Support

12:03 Reflections on Growth and Understanding

15:58 Understanding the Method Behind the Madness

17:11 Building a Community: The Sopal Foundation's Vision

18:07 Introducing the Five D Collective

19:59 Creating a Safe Space for Parents and Dyslexics

22:34 The Importance of Connection and Understanding

24:41 Navigating Shame and Self-Perception

28:24 Contextualizing Dyslexia: A Deeper Understanding

32:08 The Role of Community in Personal Growth

 

Transcript

 

00:00:07:02 - 00:00:16:05

Unknown

136 episodes. 136 episodes of Youth Stalking.

 

00:00:16:07 - 00:00:23:06

Unknown

Did you know? No. No.

 

00:00:23:08 - 00:00:29:21

Unknown

It was. I think it was the truth.

 

00:00:29:23 - 00:00:46:12

Unknown

So, see. This is season four. We've done 136 episodes. Now, I was going to ask you a question, and you had to go there. Okay. Do you? And I do want to go back to that, because I was talking about that to someone the other day, and I was like, I could see where he did think I was talking him, but I really wasn't.

 

00:00:46:13 - 00:00:59:10

Unknown

I was like, I promise you. He probably has had stalkers. I've never stalked anyone. I didn't I didn't think of it that way. You've never stopped anybody. You're the stalker. So you don't classify it as stalking. Right.

 

00:00:59:12 - 00:01:13:10

Unknown

But I was I was totally laughing because I was like, I guess from his perspective, because it kind of looked like it, but I wasn't I was not doing that. It was really funny. They were like, oh, yeah, you're right. He probably has had stalkers. And I'm like, I know. I was like, I'm like, what are you talking about?

 

00:01:13:11 - 00:01:42:01

Unknown

Anyways, we're talking about the word blindness. When after I interviewed Brant in March 2023. Right. Today's 2026. Yeah. Yeah. I had the idea. I was like, I want to help. I want to be able to give back, and I know I can help you with the foundation. Like, I know I've been living it. And so I said, let's start a podcast, because I knew that that's how I could help.

 

00:01:42:01 - 00:02:05:16

Unknown

And you were. And people have heard it. But there might be some new listeners that haven't. And you said no. And I went, no. What do you mean, no? Why would you want to do it? So then for like a month at first, why would I 136. Why did you think you could help? Because I was living it.

 

00:02:05:16 - 00:02:27:13

Unknown

And I knew I had so much that there was so much I was doing, like in my little community that I was like, I know I can be. I know I can help you with what I'm seeing here. I didn't realize also how much that all of this was going to help me. You know, I didn't I really didn't think.

 

00:02:27:18 - 00:02:45:19

Unknown

I didn't go into it thinking that, like, I really was like, oh, I'm good with all my stuff. And for the most part, I was. But then when you like, you know, sometimes it was like with the kids. I mean, when I met you, Montgomery was a junior. He had just fractured one of his, like, one side of his pelvis.

 

00:02:45:21 - 00:02:59:14

Unknown

Yep. And, you know, he was going to college to play soccer. And it was like, I mean, it was like a crazy I mean, it wasn't life always crazy. But you had just also gotten back from.

 

00:02:59:16 - 00:03:25:03

Unknown

Texas that year, right? Yeah. In Florida. And then Texas and just just moved back to beautiful Illinois. Right. Right. But why did you come back? Right. I want to be the highest property taxes. The highest taxes? Yes. I want to feel like I'm back in Canada again.

 

00:03:25:05 - 00:03:51:21

Unknown

To all that point. But the thing that was interesting is, I know we had talked probably the year before. It was the summer before when the individual that did the the show was like, you know, you guys should talk. And we talked for like three hours. And it was like we talked about all the experiences that I had, and I remember, but I was also like not officially diagnosed with a bunch of stuff, but I knew I had it right.

 

00:03:51:22 - 00:04:12:14

Unknown

Because we, you know, growing up there was awareness in my family. And then after Montgomery got diagnosed, but I was like in the trenches of it. And I remember talking with you and being like, God, he's saying stuff that I don't. I like kind of push away, like, no, let's look at the positive. Like what? Like that. You know, that's.

 

00:04:12:15 - 00:04:34:18

Unknown

And then I remember being like, oh my gosh. And then meeting you and then interviewing you, I just there was a sadness that I felt like I knew I could understand. And I think that's what it was. And I was like, how can I help? And it wasn't like a fixing because I think we've talked about this. I wasn't like, I was like, oh, I can help fix his sadness.

 

00:04:34:19 - 00:04:56:08

Unknown

It wasn't that. It just was. I could understand your frustration. And I think the key word probably, if you know, is the understand. Yep. And I completely understood. And also with some of the work that I was doing with the NFL and interviewing players that were out of the league, like I had that like really fresh. And so I felt like I really felt for you.

 

00:04:56:09 - 00:05:13:06

Unknown

Like, fuck. Like, this is this sucks. And he's trying to do really good things. I really think maybe just me starting the podcast because that's what I knew what to do. I knew how to do that. Yeah. That was that was your sweet spot. That's what you're doing, right? So I was like, I can just do that. And when you said no, I remember being like, well, wait, why?

 

00:05:13:07 - 00:05:28:23

Unknown

And then and then later you were like, well, why would I say yes? Like, I didn't know you and I didn't know what you were going to ask. And that's what I was like, well, if you just show up, I'm going to show you what equipment, because you can't not have a microphone because I can't sound police. Right.

 

00:05:29:00 - 00:05:46:13

Unknown

And then we've talked about it like when was like, I think you went in and I said to you like, there's no expectations. Like, if, if all of a sudden you're like, you know what? This is great. I don't want to do this anymore. Like, I'm not going to be upset. That's not who I am. Like. But if we can do something, this is great.

 

00:05:46:13 - 00:05:59:20

Unknown

I'm happy to kind of talk about all of this because I've been through so much of it. And that's the thing is the understanding, you know.

 

00:05:59:22 - 00:06:05:15

Unknown

You were in the trenches. I live it every day.

 

00:06:05:17 - 00:06:09:11

Unknown

When the sadness is.

 

00:06:09:13 - 00:06:22:07

Unknown

I think that's the whole dyslexic community because we're misunderstood every day. And.

 

00:06:22:09 - 00:06:40:19

Unknown

Being misunderstood, whoever you are, wherever you are, sucks. Totally. And you know the people out there, I want to talk about dyslexia being a gift, you know?

 

00:06:40:21 - 00:07:11:05

Unknown

99% of this lexis. Don't think so, because that sadness is there because you weren't misunderstood. It doesn't matter. I don't. Was I telling you? Yo, you take a look at somebody else. All the billionaires in the world that are dyslexic. Are any of them helping? Dyslexia sucks. Know why? Because that's sadness. Still lives in a. And the dollars on top of it is just covering up that sadness.

 

00:07:11:05 - 00:07:25:22

Unknown

But are they a complete, happy, truly fulfilled person? Absolutely not.

 

00:07:26:00 - 00:07:51:17

Unknown

Yeah. And it's true. And I, I was of the camp like, okay, we're going to look at because I was also raising a child that I was like, I wanted him to not think of the struggles as bad. Right? And which is understandable. That's what parents do. But so 100% doing that. And then what we have done because we, you know, said yes because of the podcast.

 

00:07:51:17 - 00:08:16:09

Unknown

136 episodes, season four. So we'll be taking a break, just our summer break and then we'll be back first week of August. So if you haven't listened to all the episodes, now is your time to catch up first. Well, your kids be on to school yet I don't still in school. It's like torture. June 26th. We still have like even more than a month.

 

00:08:16:10 - 00:08:39:23

Unknown

They're like going into AP testing. Like the when I say like out here, it's now all the summer people. And so kids, my kids are in school like having to get through town now, going to school in the morning, having to it's like it's it's like a really weird feeling really everywhere. I think.

 

00:08:40:00 - 00:09:04:20

Unknown

Illinois will be done. I think beginning next week, they're all done. I think we're done. Like the third or fourth elementary, middle school, everything. All calls is back. Yeah. Montgomery has been home and high schools, high school. All high school graduations were last week.

 

00:09:04:22 - 00:09:30:17

Unknown

But in New York. But then when I say it, people were like, well, you go back after Labor Day, so you're not allowed to bitch. And I was like, all right, it's kind of true. It ends up being, you know, it ends up being the exact same time. It's just, it's really hard at the end. Yeah. The last, you know, the the you know, I think the hard part is you said, like, all the college people, those kind of.

 

00:09:30:23 - 00:09:48:20

Unknown

There are the out. So we're going to be out for like a full month before like yeah over. It's just, you know, and it's and there it's like test like hard stuff. Like it's not like they can be like, oh, it's just an easy like, you know, Penelope's been studying this weekend. Do you know what I mean? Like she had fun.

 

00:09:48:22 - 00:10:08:04

Unknown

Oh yeah. Friday and Saturday you had all the time. Just trust me. But even like Truman had, SMU was doing something for the fraternity that he's probably going to pledge. And they were having an event, and he's like, that's my graduation. They're like, what? And he's like, yeah, no, we're not done until the end. They were like, oh, wow.

 

00:10:08:06 - 00:10:32:18

Unknown

Well, so then for him college. So what's he off for a month? And he's back at it because that's how Montgomery was. Montgomery. He's like, oh this sucks because he had to go literally he had just a month. Truman doesn't go back. I don't believe until like August 24th his late. So he so he's so happy about so yeah I'm so happy.

 

00:10:32:18 - 00:10:50:20

Unknown

I'm like oh I got a couple extra weeks. And also where all his friends are gone. Kids out of the house, get out of here. Love it. And we've had a full being changed already before you're gone. No. God, no. I leave everything the same. I actually, when Montgomery left, I didn't let anyone, even not even the cleaning lady, for, like, all two months.

 

00:10:50:20 - 00:11:14:17

Unknown

But that's all. That's that's a whole issue of my side of my own issues. That's my own issues, which we don't need to go there on that one. But I what I even we started this before I even started working at tech. Like what has transpired over the last three years for both of us, right? I mean, you met the love of your life.

 

00:11:14:17 - 00:11:34:00

Unknown

You got married. I mean, like, it's like it really was one of those things that we were supposed to meet, and we were supposed to support each other. And I know I talked about this before, but I remember, like, the week before we were going to record and we had we had been talking and I had just like started yoga.

 

00:11:34:00 - 00:11:53:18

Unknown

And I remember I got like a panic and I never really get like a panic, but I was like, fuck, what if I what if this is not good? Like what? And I'd never really do that. But that's where I was like, there's no expectations. Like, just see where this goes. You never know. It could be helpful. It could be like in two weeks, you both are like, great, thanks.

 

00:11:53:20 - 00:12:09:06

Unknown

And I remember asking you like a couple of times, like, are you still good? Are you still enjoying this? Are you still happy? And you were like, yeah. And I'm like, are you lying? And you're like, no. But you know, you had a lot going on.

 

00:12:09:08 - 00:12:19:07

Unknown

Be interesting. You know, you know some listeners here, you know, just put in the comments, you know, if we've helped you.

 

00:12:19:09 - 00:12:41:02

Unknown

At the end of days, you know, we talk about the tagline, the kid in the chair, right. We can't help you can't get the Tootsie. You get to one that's one person out of time. And this is what, you know, 136 episodes. You know, hopefully I'll be one person. And we've we've helped one person, you know, we've done good.

 

00:12:41:04 - 00:12:50:22

Unknown

And then you know what we have. And, you know, with the community, you know, you can talk into that here. But this is what it's for is.

 

00:12:51:00 - 00:13:17:04

Unknown

To be seen, to be heard, to be understood, to have a place, you know, like that podcast or like that Instagram clip that, Elizabeth sent the other day. We're listening to it and she's like, yeah, that's like, those are the exact same words that you use. Like, we all talk the same way. We all say the same things.

 

00:13:17:04 - 00:13:38:04

Unknown

We all same have the same struggles. We just want to be seen. We just want to be heard. And this is a place where we're, you know, where it can be, where, you know, your listeners can know we understand it because we live it and we talk the truth. And I know how many years. Danny. Mister negative I kind of listen to this guy.

 

00:13:38:04 - 00:14:21:11

Unknown

He's Mister Negative. He's, you know, she's like, this is a different podcast. This is a different podcast that you're doing. Do you know what you're doing? And I was like, I know what I'm doing. I'm Mister Negative and Mr. Bad Guy, you know, realist thanks to your dad. But it's that's why we do what we do. That's why we talk about it is, you know, in some of those episodes, obviously we're refresh, you know, raw because you were just coming out of a meeting of, you know, or a battle with the school or, you know, a diagnosis or, you know, some of these things were were super raw because, you know, it was good

 

00:14:21:11 - 00:14:52:19

Unknown

enough for you to do that. But we wanted the listeners to know they're they're not alone. Right. You you're going through it. I'm obviously past that portion on the school side of things. Unless the grandkids come into play. But, you know, I was obviously raw, was emotional, but, you know, all the listeners could relate because they're in it or going through it are going to go into it or have gone through it.

 

00:14:52:21 - 00:15:11:22

Unknown

And one of the things that I felt from the beginning, I remember when you were saying so many people don't understand me. And I said to you, really? And you're like, yeah, most people. And I was like, I don't think I've ever. There has been one time that I said to you, we can you explain that again? And it was it was like a text.

 

00:15:11:23 - 00:15:29:20

Unknown

It wasn't. But I don't think either of us have ever really been like, I don't understand what you're saying. Can you read it? And I know we've talked about through our entire lives. There's been times where I'm like, oh, you just don't understand. Like, it's just I can't even explain it to you because I don't understand why you can't understand what I'm saying.

 

00:15:29:21 - 00:16:05:10

Unknown

Like, and we've never had that. Like, that was one of the things I think from the beginning. Like when you said that to me, I was like, oh, I was like, I don't find you hard to understand at all. And we've talked about some pretty deep things, you know, and you're like, yeah, we have it, right. Because we, we get it, you know, and obviously we had the hockey event last week and after the first year and when I talked to gentleman, Tommy was like, well, first year, I thought you were out of your mind.

 

00:16:05:11 - 00:16:28:13

Unknown

I thought I didn't have what you're doing, all right. You didn't make any sense. It was actually, it was the opposite. What I've ever done in my life, you know, any other event and any other foundation, anything I've ever done use, like, literally the opposite. What you're doing. And now he's like, oh, now I know there's a method to your madness.

 

00:16:28:15 - 00:16:51:21

Unknown

He had no clue. And I know that, you know, everybody else on that call. That was a part of that and part of that group. They all had no clue. And that analysis said it to me. Right? Right. They probably got off Collins and this guy's, you know, but now they don't have it. So they didn't see it and didn't understand it.

 

00:16:51:23 - 00:17:19:15

Unknown

So now I want to go and talk about the community. So from day one I feel like we've talked about a community. The social foundation encompasses community, but we do a lot of events that are in the Chicago area. So, you know, we talk to people throughout the United States and Canada and, and actually Europe. Maybe there's been a couple of people that think, you know, in Europe as well, but the events are more local because that's where you are.

 

00:17:19:15 - 00:17:41:18

Unknown

And that makes sense. Right. And so we've always talked about doing something that encompassed everyone so they can feel what we feel with the connections that we make with people every day. And it was one of those things that, I mean, in the beginning, we had we had down to like every little detail that we wanted to do, but it just never was like exactly the right time.

 

00:17:41:18 - 00:18:02:00

Unknown

It's like, okay, that's going to be that's going to be kind of developing as time goes. And I want to say like a month ago, I was sitting and I was reading something and it was like, boom, you need it needs to happen now and then with the event and everything, it's like, okay, I know exactly what I want to do with this community.

 

00:18:02:00 - 00:18:24:11

Unknown

So I kind of basically threw up on a one sheet, like everything that was in my mind, everything that we've talked about throughout the years. And when we talk about we don't like the word neurodiversity, we don't like the word neurodiversity, because like, that doesn't explain anything. It doesn't give you any definition. And so we were calling it the five days.

 

00:18:24:12 - 00:18:46:23

Unknown

And that's dyslexia, dysgraphia, dyscalculia, ADHD and dyspraxia. And if people have been listening to this for a long time, they know that now that term is not a term that people here, but we're like, you know, we want to keep talking about it like the kid in the chair. So we started the five D collective, which is a social foundation community for the kid in the chair.

 

00:18:47:00 - 00:19:04:11

Unknown

If you go to the website, it is live. Now, there's places that you can put your email and it is a community for parents. It is a community for people that are dyslexic. It's a community where you will be seen and heard and all the details are not, you know, we're going to be launching this. This is what the plan is.

 

00:19:04:16 - 00:19:29:00

Unknown

The first week of August, we'll have our first zoom meeting, and there's going to be some months that it's going to be. We'll have experts. We'll have people that will help navigate. If your kids ready to go to college or a couple years ready to go to college, what you need to do with that IEP, that 504, we'll have people that talk about, you know, in education, but people also that have the understanding there either dyslexic, they've been in the world.

 

00:19:29:02 - 00:19:50:19

Unknown

They are a part of the social foundation. They work very closely with us on some other things. So it really was like such a timing that was like, okay, it doesn't just land on both of our laps. My goal was to always have something that you can be one like layer removed, so it's not weighing on you because you take on everything.

 

00:19:50:20 - 00:20:13:23

Unknown

I'm here to support you do all that. But this one, I wanted it to be where it's like you can be as involved or if you are busy, you don't have to worry because you know, your team has you and you have not had that in this, you know, in this world. So I'm like, I was so giggly because one of the gentlemen that Dwight, I'm going to call you out, he that has been working with us, you know, was at the event.

 

00:20:14:00 - 00:20:33:02

Unknown

He's had said numerous times, like, I would love to get more involved. I would love to get more involved. And so I approached him. I talked to you first. I approached him and I was like, hey, you know, do you want to do this with me? And he is like, I am all in. He wrote this beautiful. I mean, he's he's such a beautiful writer, even though he doesn't think it.

 

00:20:33:02 - 00:20:54:02

Unknown

But expressing meeting you and then meeting me, what that has done for his life is, is, is really beautiful and we totally understand it. But the shame that he carried for 40, I don't even know how many years. I mean, for six years, whatever. I mean, I guess when you're little and also you don't have shame, but whatever, you got it.

 

00:20:54:03 - 00:21:15:22

Unknown

He's had it for a long time. Yeah. Go ahead. No, you guys are going to go down a rabbit hole. So. Yeah. Okay. But so he said I'll love to be a part of that. So we'll have some weeks where it is for people just to connect, to share their story. They can come and ask questions, but we'll have, you know, one of the months where and I'm like, you know, people are like, oh, that's a lot.

 

00:21:15:23 - 00:21:30:08

Unknown

And I was like, but I know how to moderate. Like, everyone's going to get a time to be seen and heard. And how many parents? That's what you want. When I was in the trenches, that's all I wanted to be understood. And like if I had a little question, like, what am I supposed to be doing this with the 504 or the IEP?

 

00:21:30:10 - 00:21:51:06

Unknown

We're going to have experts, but we're also going to have our experience. And so it will be right now we're looking to do monthly. It could be quarterly, but we're going to have first virtual events. And then we'll see where it goes. I have the plans in my head of where this community is going to go is, you know, the sky's the limit.

 

00:21:51:06 - 00:22:06:09

Unknown

But we do have where you can sign up. It's just going to be you're not going to get bombarded. It will just be updates of when we will be meeting different things. We'll be able to ask you guys. Hey, what do you want to see? Who is someone that you want to hear that you can go and ask questions for?

 

00:22:06:10 - 00:22:33:04

Unknown

You know, my my goal is sometimes will have you kind of pop in and be a special guest and, and talk about it or be on all of them if you want, you know, but for you to be able to kind of take your brain and be like, okay, I know Juliette and Dwight have this, like, it makes me probably just as happy as to launch this and to get the community up and running, because I know what a relief that is.

 

00:22:33:04 - 00:22:54:07

Unknown

And I know, you know, that it's just growing the foundation and it's just helping more people. And that's what we want. We want to help that kid in the chair right now. It's, you know, it's going to be awesome. It's it's it's a place to feel comfortable. It's a place to yell. It's a place to cry. It's a place to be silent.

 

00:22:54:09 - 00:23:33:18

Unknown

Whatever. You know, whatever you need, you know, on that call. Because you're going to have people on there have been through all the same things, feeling the same motions, have felt the same emotions going to feel the same emotion. So, it's just a place that you can go and be heard and not judged. And when it comes to, to, to this world and the five days, that's a tough world to find.

 

00:23:33:20 - 00:23:39:09

Unknown

So you are judge.

 

00:23:39:11 - 00:23:43:09

Unknown

You know, no matter.

 

00:23:43:11 - 00:23:49:23

Unknown

Where, we're always getting judged. But this group, you won't be.

 

00:23:50:00 - 00:24:07:18

Unknown

It's interesting I the other day and I never used to do this, but now I'm starting to do it a little bit more, and then I'm like, damn it. It's not it's not completely healthy. And so I'm going to share it here when I talk about, you know, dyslexia or whatever. And I've talked about the struggles and what I do with the social foundation.

 

00:24:07:18 - 00:24:23:19

Unknown

And you know, people will say like, oh, so you weren't good in school. And I was like, no, it was terrible. We just we just actually had this conversation with Montgomery's teammate. And Montgomery was saying, like, could you imagine, like my mom was getting recruited D1, but she couldn't get her SATs up. And the kid was like, oh, wow.

 

00:24:23:20 - 00:24:41:22

Unknown

And you know, Truman, like, you never told us what that score is. And I'm like, and nor am I going to. I was like, it's not needed. But then I needed to say some of the things that I've accomplished. And I was like, damn it. Why am I doing that? Why am I because, you know, he's like, oh, so you really were not good in school.

 

00:24:41:22 - 00:24:59:05

Unknown

And I was like, no, I like when he does better in school because he had the understanding he went through. But then I needed to say, you know, what I do for the foundation and then that I'm the chief communications officer. And I was like, why do I need why do I need to throw that in? And I need to work on that?

 

00:24:59:05 - 00:25:11:05

Unknown

Because it's not that doesn't define me, but it makes me show them, hey, wait, I am smart, do you know what I mean? And I'm doing. And I never used to do that. Ever.

 

00:25:11:07 - 00:25:19:13

Unknown

What are your thoughts there? I see your face. Well.

 

00:25:19:15 - 00:25:47:05

Unknown

Bill. So back to when I was going to down the rabbit hole. You know, we don't have shame or younger than we do. Oh, totally. Yeah. You know, when you're talking about the white, you know, and you mentioned, you know, when we're how many years or whatever and we have shame really young you know. But you just don't know how.

 

00:25:47:06 - 00:26:03:00

Unknown

You don't put the words don't know what you know. And that's what it is. And that's what you know, that community of the community is, is we have these feelings. We're young. We don't know who they are. We don't know how to, you know, that's why they say, you know, hindsight's 2020. Or the older you get, the wise you get.

 

00:26:03:00 - 00:26:37:18

Unknown

Know. Now there's understanding, understanding why I'm feeling this way. Absolutely. I understand. Oh, that's what this meant. Oh, he's having a tummy ache all the time. Oh, why, there's the understanding. You know, that's what the whole community is, you know, is, you know, is the understanding and you know, to to to that why why you saying that is, you know, you're putting it in context for him because he doesn't you know, he's young, right?

 

00:26:37:19 - 00:27:05:01

Unknown

Right. So if you left it off at that. Not saying he he ever thought you were right, you know. And that's what a lot of it is. I don't think it was you doing it for a self-esteem confidence side or self. Right. This is it's a lot of understanding. You know, you're just you're giving it context. No, I like that right now.

 

00:27:05:02 - 00:27:30:04

Unknown

I get this all the time. Or people like, oh, why are you talking about that? You're always the boo hoo. No we're not. It's not the boohoo. We're putting context to why. And this is where again, get judged all the time. I remember there was a clip of Elizabeth showing me die laughing of somebody pretty, pretty important.

 

00:27:30:05 - 00:27:52:15

Unknown

Everybody in the world would know who it is. I'm not going to go there. And she was dying laughing. This is so funny. And you know why? Why was he saying this so funny? So funny? I'm like, well, he was meaning this. He was putting in context. We so we do a lot of putting it in context. Just how I always say, does that make sense?

 

00:27:52:17 - 00:28:13:00

Unknown

Because it doesn't make sense to him. Just like I said, Tommy had no clue what I was doing. He thought I was running the foundation into the ground because he's never seen it done that way. So we put a lot of times we're putting context to what we are saying because it is very different for them. Yeah. How many is it?

 

00:28:13:00 - 00:28:32:22

Unknown

Does that make sense? You know, 10 million times a day when I'm talking to people, does that make sense? Because I need to put context to what we are saying, because a lot of times it's exact opposite of what they think. So back to back to your situation is you were just putting context in. Yeah, the statement 100%.

 

00:28:32:22 - 00:28:52:20

Unknown

And even when I think about going back to the meeting that we had with with my neuropsychology, and I wanted to put context because it is it's one of those things when you see how someone with dyslexia brain like, works in one of their weaknesses, like this is actually a really interesting thing. And this is like things that we'll talk about in the community.

 

00:28:52:20 - 00:29:18:19

Unknown

So parents also can understand this community is not just for dyslexia. This is also parents of dyslexics that maybe they don't understand. Right. It could be a you know, and we're going to talk about where and it's going to be a safe space. So like that's the other thing is it's going to be all people that have lived or gone through or like, can, can relate in some sort will have times where like because we know that there's going to be teachers.

 

00:29:18:20 - 00:29:31:23

Unknown

We've had teachers that have asked like, hey, can you guys help us a little bit? That will be like a different sort of meeting because it's not going to be where it's like, you know, if you come on and you're a parent and you're like, I just had the worst day, this is what happened. And you want to talk about it, right?

 

00:29:32:00 - 00:29:56:04

Unknown

It's going to be a safe space that you're able to do that. But when someone when someone talks. So like I always say, when someone talks to me or when someone talks to Montgomery or when someone talks to you, they don't realize if we're put in a situation where like our dyslexia shows up. So like if a reading thing like so all of a sudden we're talking talking people on the podcast have heard both of us read, right?

 

00:29:56:10 - 00:30:13:11

Unknown

And it's like, oh, wow. Like, I've had people like reach out and be like, you know, I run into throw up in my mouth for you. Like, that must have been so hard. Like you reading that, like I could feel you. And I was like, you know, I really appreciate it, but that's like life. We have to deal with that all the time, right?

 

00:30:13:12 - 00:30:35:20

Unknown

It's like things that you have to deal with. But so for me to then put it in context, like even though I struggle so much in those things, you wouldn't realize that I actually can obtain and hold this kind of job and be actually good in it, because these are my strengths. But as a person, that just seems like a teacher that just sees a kid struggle but doesn't hear or talk to them, they're going to assume, right, that they're dumb.

 

00:30:35:20 - 00:30:54:03

Unknown

And that's what we get all the time. You know, Montgomery in school before when he would talk and connect with every teacher, and then they would see his IEP and they'd be like this, this doesn't match. And they literally would say to him, like, okay, I don't I think that they kind of ramped this up and he's like, no, they didn't they did not ramp this up.

 

00:30:54:04 - 00:31:21:01

Unknown

This is me on paper when you see me in certain situations. This is who I am as a person out facing. No, you would never know that I struggle as much as I do and so right. So when I do it, it's kind of putting in context. There's things that are really hard for us, but we've talked about it like we live in a world where we have to figure it out and we usually do, but then there's a lot of that shame and all of those things that come with it.

 

00:31:21:01 - 00:31:48:18

Unknown

So this community will be a place where you're seen and heard because we've understand, we've been through it. We raise children with it. We have been through it where we weren't diagnosed or there was understanding in the family, or there was no understanding in the family, right or teacher. I was just thinking about this the other day and I was like, even though I had educators in my family that did work with me, how did I get pushed under?

 

00:31:48:18 - 00:32:07:05

Unknown

And it's because they thought that was the best that I could do it. When you're busy as a teacher and you have all you can't, you take little pieces and you're like, okay, that's what who they are. But you don't take the whole picture of a person. You take little pieces and that's what defines that person. And it's not.

 

00:32:07:05 - 00:32:36:18

Unknown

And that's why we want to give voices, and we want to give illustrations, and we want to give feelings, and we want all of that to be in this community where you come and you're like, oh my God. And then there will be times where you're able to like, as this grows, there's things that I'm not going to even talk about where I see it, but it's just going to be one of those places that you're like, finally, right at one of your events that everyone says they're like, God, I felt so comfortable, right?

 

00:32:36:20 - 00:32:42:09

Unknown

That's it. You know.

 

00:32:42:11 - 00:32:46:16

Unknown

Being comfortable.

 

00:32:46:18 - 00:33:16:15

Unknown

Is, you know, for us is something that's really hard to find. It's everything. You know, the younger you can get diagnosed, that's why you talk about it. The easier it is to find comfort because you have understanding and you can find the earlier you find your understanding and understand yourself right, the easier it is to find your friends and connect.

 

00:33:16:17 - 00:33:40:09

Unknown

All you want to do as a person, as a human, is connect. And if you can't understand yourself, how are you supposed to connect with somebody when you can't connect to a self? Yep. And that is everything. When you have a place where you can be yourself.

 

00:33:40:11 - 00:34:09:00

Unknown

It changes everything. And that's what the five D collective will be. So go to Sobel Foundation. You'll see it right in the thing. It's community. You can read a little bit what the view the vision is and where it's going. You know on that tab maybe you should highlight it. Maybe you should. Maybe right now it can be, you know, on your iPhone where you go sometimes you type word, it can go big, you'll get it out.

 

00:34:09:01 - 00:34:27:15

Unknown

I'll see if we have that feature. Yeah. Maybe just, you know, give a wave to everybody. Only maybe a little hand pops out of the computer community tab. Yeah, but let's, let's, let's see when our back end ability has. But that actually is a good point because maybe there's other places that we can put it on the website.

 

00:34:27:17 - 00:34:50:15

Unknown

Well, you know, in the region I saw that, you know, references that a few people had talked about at the hockey event, not, they said the information of the event was on there. It was it was on the event tab. So I didn't want to talk about that. Maybe, you know, maybe we put the community as a the tab, keep that tab there.

 

00:34:50:15 - 00:35:12:06

Unknown

Maybe there's a bar I don't I don't know, I just just reference. No I love that. Yeah. Some of the points that some people have mentioned to me, you know, at the hockey event on the website, it wasn't there. You know, it was there, it was under the events. Yeah. Okay. Bar. Let's see what what's able to to to make work on that back end.

 

00:35:12:08 - 00:35:37:06

Unknown

Yeah. We'll, we'll do that for you guys. And again season four thank you for being with us sticking with us sending the comments I mean, so many times you know we'll have parents DM or people DM I just listened to your episode. Thank you. What you guys do helps me throughout my day. And it's you know, that's that was the vision when I stalked you see.

 

00:35:37:10 - 00:36:04:16

Unknown

Okay. Finally, finally. Well, we'll let him we'll let him feel good about him. Finally. We'll we'll let him go. Years later. So you guys, you know what to do. Like rate review and share. And we'll see you in August. I don't like that though, that that's going to be the start of school. Like I'm not even finished school, so I can't even be speaking about the start a school, but that's okay.

 

00:36:04:18 - 00:36:06:21

Unknown

Oh geez. Different breed.