S5E2: Why Current Diagnosis Methods Fail Our Kids

In this episode, Brent and Juliet delve into the complexities of dyslexia, diagnosis challenges, and the flaws in current educational and medical systems. They explore how misconceptions and incomplete testing hinder proper support and highlight the need for comprehensive understanding and diagnosis.

 

Chapters

 

00:00 Understanding Dyslexia: A Growing Conversation

03:07 The Importance of Proper Diagnosis

05:57 The Role of Education in Dyslexia Awareness

09:00 The Need for Comprehensive Testing

12:01 The Impact of Misdiagnosis

15:02 The Intersection of ADHD and Dyslexia

17:57 The Role of Medication in Learning Disorders

20:51 The Need for Holistic Approaches

24:00 The Challenges of Traditional Education

26:51 Reimagining Learning for All

29:57 The Future of Dyslexia Awareness

 

Transcript

 

00:00:10:02 - 00:00:42:21

Unknown

One of the things that we want to highlight, that we talk about a lot, and it's now becoming even more prevalent because dissection is maybe more of a buzzword than it was back in the day. So I do want to say one of the things that when we started this and one of the things that you said and I said separately before we even our worlds collided, was if more people would talk about dyslexia and would be understood, there would be less traumas, if more, you know, if dyslexia could be said, if more people knew about it.

 

00:00:42:22 - 00:01:06:06

Unknown

Dyslexia, dyslexia and dyslexia, right? It's not just flipping your B's and D's. It is being talked about. Now we are 100% right. It is being talked about. I still don't think it's being talked about correctly because it's still the people without dyslexia. Yeah. I always used to say if we can get the word dyslexia said it's a win.

 

00:01:06:09 - 00:01:28:00

Unknown

Yep. So people always ask, how can we partner up or, you know, a store want to do, you know, 5% of sales, you know, back to the foundation or things like that. And so we're out exploratory conversations. I'm like, you know, anytime I can get the word dyslexia said, it's a win.

 

00:01:28:02 - 00:02:00:03

Unknown

That's what that was. My used to be thoughts. But I think it's kind of like everything notes, every ounce out in the world right now, social media, you have to sift through and find out what's the right information like. I don't know what the percentage of percentage of the information out there is wrong. You know, it's a high percentage, very high percentage, very high percentage.

 

00:02:00:04 - 00:02:34:10

Unknown

So I don't know. Again, I can't, can't I always obviously let's go back to the statistics in my mind lesson. Single digits eight 9% of people have been diagnosed with dyslexia. That's it in the world. That's a small number. Then you've got an extremely high rate of false information high in the world. Now, when I say this all the time and people look at me like I got ten heads.

 

00:02:34:13 - 00:02:55:18

Unknown

You know, dyslexia is one of the most businesses in the world. And obviously everybody talks about, you know, the reading, the math. You know, here in the United States, I guess, you know, in North America is all obviously gone down. And they all want to blame it. You know, it's on the it's it's all on the phones causing it.

 

00:02:55:20 - 00:03:04:20

Unknown

I get a completely different take on that. But I guess I always have a different take. I'm not sure why.

 

00:03:04:22 - 00:03:29:22

Unknown

It's always a very different take. You know, they're talking about some of the, some of the states are passing that, you know, the no cell phones, they're like, oh, now the behavior is going to, you know, get better. It's not it comes back to understanding. And I was talking to somebody this morning and you know talking about addiction.

 

00:03:29:22 - 00:03:47:10

Unknown

He's got a sibling that's struggling. It's like I'm tired of the up and downs. Just like world is ups and downs big time right. Highs are high. Those are low. And.

 

00:03:47:12 - 00:04:09:13

Unknown

I said well obviously you can reach out to me anytime. He said no. I tell him that all the time. I'm like, but you have to be you have to come to terms with certain things in addiction world. Now let's go back to dyslexia. You can't come to terms with anything if you're not diagnosed.

 

00:04:09:15 - 00:04:25:00

Unknown

If you have no clue if you're dyslexic now, 40% have a second or a third or four coexisting learning disability that ADHD is that dysgraphia?

 

00:04:25:02 - 00:04:29:06

Unknown

Dyspraxia. What is it?

 

00:04:29:08 - 00:04:57:02

Unknown

You won't know until you get properly diagnosed. And that is what they full neuroscience not an educational. It is a full neuroscience. And there's so many things that you said there that I need people to like really think about. Because yes, the word is being said more is being used more, just like back in the day when ADHD, you know, kind of came booming in and it was like everyone's a little ADHD, you know?

 

00:04:57:03 - 00:05:15:16

Unknown

No, not everyone's a little HD. Maybe everyone is a little eight HD, everyone has a ten. Yes. But it's when a disability gets in the way with your daily life that it becomes a disability, right? Everyone has moments, you know, of whatever. I could say words, but I'm not going to say I'm like, we all have moments. Trust me, we all have moments.

 

00:05:15:17 - 00:05:44:10

Unknown

But when there's not understanding, as you just said. So I'm going to take it to when I was diagnosed in college with just ADHD and how I still put things under the ADHD on that, actually. I mean, even till like a year ago that I put under that word dysgraphia or dyslexia because I got diagnosed with that. So I don't mean to cut you off.

 

00:05:44:10 - 00:06:01:23

Unknown

Who who diagnosed you with that? I know. So he's no longer with us? I have to look it up because I don't. I'm going to have you speak in a second. I forget what his. He wasn't a pediatrician. I do know that. But you're holding on because you said you were in college. I hope you weren't going to.

 

00:06:02:00 - 00:06:21:15

Unknown

Still going to be in college. And just saying. Well, I could have been 18, right? You're in college at 18. You still go to a pediatrician in 19. You're still going to a pediatrician at 18? Yeah. No, I think you're that's like the cutoff. It's when you're 19 and then you go to a regular doctor. Really? Or 20.

 

00:06:21:16 - 00:06:45:13

Unknown

Yeah, yeah. Because mine. Yeah. My still can really. Yes. Tricia. I mean kids, young kids. No. You go over until you're 18 and then it's like college is 19. So. But neither neither. It matters because I was in college that was going to, you know, originally asked that question because it was going to lead into my next statement.

 

00:06:45:13 - 00:07:19:05

Unknown

But, you know, I don't know how to spell people are getting diagnosed by their pediatrician. Yeah. Like now let's go back to when I went and saw my doctor at six months ago, something like that, knowing her for many years and started talking about my dyslexia and started talking about the foundation. I think she's been a doctor for probably 25 or 30 years, you know, family practice.

 

00:07:19:05 - 00:07:33:23

Unknown

So she's diagnosing, you know, ADHD, she's dying and anxiety, you know, the whole nine yards. And she said, and she went to school, she's like, I think we had like two lines about dyslexia.

 

00:07:34:00 - 00:08:02:13

Unknown

So in those two lines. What did you learn? Nothing. You're not learning anything in two lines, but you're how much anxiety is missed? How much how many things? The mental health side of things are missed. Now let's go back to ADHD. You just had a checklist and diagnosing ADHD from five to, you know, I guess 18 right now to me that's not the right place to go.

 

00:08:02:15 - 00:08:13:23

Unknown

No. And you're going to laugh when I tell you what. Good. Go ahead. Please do. So he was a pediatric.

 

00:08:14:00 - 00:08:19:16

Unknown

Neurologist.

 

00:08:19:18 - 00:08:57:20

Unknown

Well, you know, again, to me again, I'm just lonely, fat hockey player over here. I don't think that's the right place to be going in diagnosing ADHD. I believe you should be going to a neuropsychologist who trained in learning disabilities and ADHD falls under that umbrella for a full diagnosis. You know, they're always worried about and this is how you could change this, you know, in blink of an eye.

 

00:08:57:21 - 00:09:14:07

Unknown

And I just reading that article I told you about, so many people are trying to cheat the system and get their kids diagnosed with ADHD so they can get extra time. Why are they going to a pediatric.

 

00:09:14:09 - 00:09:34:18

Unknown

Doctor to get tested? Why don't we go to now? Because a pediatric doctor you're only going to diagnose ADHD. So let's go and talk this in, you know, in a different form, cancer. So if somebody got cancer.

 

00:09:34:20 - 00:09:45:04

Unknown

They go and do a Pet scan. Now a Pet scan can once they do that they can find cancer anywhere in your body. Correct.

 

00:09:45:06 - 00:10:13:03

Unknown

So let's take away a Pet scan. And they only do. Let's just say somebody's got cancer, or their lungs, okay, let's go get a Pet scan and you can only get one of your lungs. That's it. Not now. You're not allowed because they think it's there. Would people not be up in arms? Because that's a one diagnosis only.

 

00:10:13:03 - 00:10:40:08

Unknown

They're not allowed. Not allowed. And I'm referring that to okay that being the ADHD. So we're not going to scan the rest of the body and see if it's gone somewhere else. Or maybe it's an Olymp nodes. Or maybe that's how I relate. Yeah. You know, and not relating. I guess that's not the right trying to make people understand what the correlation, the correlations are like that that's that's outlandish.

 

00:10:40:14 - 00:11:02:17

Unknown

That's insanity. We would never do that. Right. We have Pet scans or billions of dollars. That's where you go. That's where people's lives are are saved by having a full Pet scan. Why not learning disabilities? Why are we going to the pediatrician who's swabbing the belly button to get the biblical cord off there, by the way? Yeah, I think that kid yours five where they.

 

00:11:02:17 - 00:11:44:12

Unknown

He's got it. You want me to write the script here? Like, to me, that is crazy. Absolutely. Now, here's the thing. So but here's the thing. This doctor and he's a pediatric neurologist, so he specialized in conditions with children and adolescents that were neurological. So ADHD, seizures, developmental delays okay. Makes sense. But right right. But this is what is confusing is if, you know I mean so I was officially diagnosed by you know like that's yes.

 

00:11:44:12 - 00:12:15:05

Unknown

He can diagnose that. It's not like I went to my pediatrician, I went to a neuro pediatrician, neuro psychologist work. He was right in your brain. But it wasn't a neuro. It wasn't. It wasn't the same as a full battery of a neuroscientist. However, what makes me frustrated is I was really struggling, right? I saw a commercial in college on TV, and I remember in black and white.

 

00:12:15:06 - 00:12:18:07

Unknown

Or did we have color black?

 

00:12:18:09 - 00:12:40:14

Unknown

We actually in the college that I went to, it might have been a black and white TV. But I remember calling my mom and being like, oh my God, I just saw like an infomercial. Whatever it was, I think I have ADHD and my mom being like, honey, you definitely have it. We just, you know, there were so many things that we didn't know we wouldn't medicate and all these things.

 

00:12:40:14 - 00:13:01:22

Unknown

But now that you're older and I was really struggling in college, I was like, you know, every other day being like, I need to, I'm going to fail. So but here's the thing that's really interesting. And this is where you could see where the gray lines are. Right? So I wasn't tested for anything else. And I remember he doesn't have the ability to test for anything else.

 

00:13:01:23 - 00:13:34:10

Unknown

Right. So right. Never mentioned anything like oh okay. You might because of ADHD. There's are some other learning things. Ask questions. I was drowning, right? I mean drowning, I get put on meds and I did do better in school so I could go and say, like, if I didn't do better in school now, but I'd still have all the traumas of other things in school.

 

00:13:34:10 - 00:13:55:22

Unknown

It wasn't just like, even though if I look back now, just because I had the meds, I still struggled with other things. You know, things just I was able to focus and pay a little bit attention. I realized, okay, I wasn't stupid, that, you know, there was something prohibiting me from learning. But I still learned, asked backwards, still couldn't do math or any of this.

 

00:13:55:22 - 00:14:20:17

Unknown

So I did think, okay, there was still some things that I wasn't that smart in, right? So I got part of the the picture. You want to say what it was a band aid 100%. It was a band aid, right. You know, because now and, you know, here's the bigger picture to this. If you have dyslexia, you know, the chance of you having a child that has it.

 

00:14:20:19 - 00:14:43:12

Unknown

Pretty damn high. Yeah. So you think you're getting diagnosed. You went to the right place. Like, you know, obviously he's a specialist in that kind of stuff, but he didn't tell you about anything else because he doesn't have the capabilities. Right? He doesn't know anything to do with learning disorders, dyslexia, just, you know, he doesn't have any clue.

 

00:14:43:12 - 00:15:06:23

Unknown

So he couldn't say that to you. Right. Because he had no clue. Right. So why are we going to somebody again who can only diagnose one thing and has zero clue about any of the others? Okay, so here because I just wanted to pull this up. So yes, a pediatric neurologist can diagnose dyslexia because dyslexia is neurodevelopment disorder.

 

00:15:06:23 - 00:15:33:03

Unknown

They can qualify to evaluate how a child's brain processes language. Their primary conduct evaluation to rule out other medical conditions, other referred to neuropsychologist or educational. So okay, so did you catch that because now I need to read it again because I caught it, but I didn't process it. So it says it can diagnose narrow L cycle whatever.

 

00:15:33:07 - 00:16:10:15

Unknown

You know, neuro whatever you're calling is not a developmental disorder. But they primarily conduct evaluations to rule out other medical conditions and then refer patients to a neuropsychologist. So that's what I wanted because. So this was a neurologist I mean it's very confusing. This is a neurologist. But then a neuropsychologist is different. So a pediatric neurologist can but they're not really they will they will then refer you to patients to neuropsychologist to get an educational specialist for comprehension testing.

 

00:16:10:15 - 00:16:33:11

Unknown

So they can say possibly you have dyslexia. But so that's why I went to the and I don't want to say the wrong one. Right. But it still frustrates me that it wasn't like, hey, you're struggling in other things, let's try to get the whole thing instead of being like, I thought the heavens opened up. I mean, I became an expert in everything ADHD, my dad, I mean, this is my dad wasn't diagnosed.

 

00:16:33:11 - 00:16:52:03

Unknown

No one in my family was diagnosed, actually. Then everyone was like, well, maybe we have it, you know, everyone. It opened the world because I was like, I saw this thing. Then we all got more knowledge of it, but we didn't get the whole thing until then. Our kids got diagnosed. So I went through all of those years.

 

00:16:52:05 - 00:17:13:18

Unknown

So the higher percentage of people, there are some people that just have ADHD 100%. And that would have been great, you know, just for you. But there's a higher percentage of people that have more than just ADHD.

 

00:17:13:20 - 00:17:45:20

Unknown

So what justice are we doing for them? So, you know, why not get everybody tested the proper way? In my mind, a neuropsychologist, a full battery of a neural psych valuation, testing IQ for all learning disabilities and rule everything out. Right? We're going for the band aid.

 

00:17:45:22 - 00:18:16:22

Unknown

Which may fix, you know, one thing, but most people have a two and a three. Yep. And we're missing out on the two and three and two and three are at submitting and growing at a rapid pace like mold. And at some point take time, takes over one and rips out band aids and two and three eats up one.

 

00:18:17:00 - 00:18:22:18

Unknown

So now we have a problem with one, two and three.

 

00:18:22:20 - 00:18:51:04

Unknown

Right? Does it make sense to me? No it doesn't. And then the other thing is. So first of all, yes, he was the correct person to diagnose any HD. Great. As you said, the pediatricians also diagnosing ADHD. Not okay. There's a lot of times, you know, the whole 80. I'm going to go back to like ADHD when that became the buzzword, right.

 

00:18:51:06 - 00:19:12:01

Unknown

Then teachers were like, oh wait, I think this person might have it, this person might have it. Then meds were widely abused. I mean, widely, yes. I was on them for a period of time. It worked. It was great. But it also I had some, you know, I had side effects. I had to adjust. It was not always great.

 

00:19:12:01 - 00:19:33:21

Unknown

Then. There was a lot of shame around it because I was like, wait, I need this to be smart. Like, you know, there was a whole mind fucking there. Anyways, I was able to then adjust and get off and use homeopathy, which is all great again. However, I didn't have that full knowledge of how my brain worked, where my struggles are, were not like okay, I knew this was hard, but like why right?

 

00:19:33:22 - 00:19:52:03

Unknown

Why can't I figure this out? Why can't I figure that out? And that's where for a parent teacher goes. You know, I think your child I mean, how many times have we been around where. Well, the the teacher said that, like, my kids, medicine's not working anymore and they need to update. And like that makes me. You need the up the up the medicine.

 

00:19:52:04 - 00:20:14:11

Unknown

Yeah. That makes me insane because that like oh oh wait a second. Maybe the kid does not need the medicine. Like they're they're not getting the full picture again. Right. The medicine should not make your child. Children should not be these easy peasy robots. They should. You know, the one that comes to mind is the one. A teacher that's in a school for learning disorders.

 

00:20:14:12 - 00:20:25:23

Unknown

Yeah, right. And to me, that and the cell phones drive me, just pushes me off the edge in the same way.

 

00:20:26:00 - 00:20:53:20

Unknown

Right. You're a teacher in a learning disorder school. And that's where you say, you know, he needs to be, you know, mend up more. Where is your understanding of the kids you're teaching, how to teach them what to do? Zero. Yeah, right. That's again like robots. I remember going into like when my mom was teaching and just seeing kids in the hallway, and you just knew, oh, that kid's own meds that they should not be on because they were just robots.

 

00:20:53:22 - 00:21:19:00

Unknown

So I'm going to go back to dyslexia. Yes. It is being talked about more. All there's laws being passed that we need to do with the early screening to check for dyslexia. We need to do this for dyslexia. But again what about the other five DZ. What about the other parts? That most likely is in conjunction with dyslexia.

 

00:21:19:00 - 00:21:45:20

Unknown

So if you're finding out okay this person has dyslexia and then you're helping them read better 100% more like okay, that's great, but you're missing a whole other picture and whole other part of how that child learns. If they're describing, they need to learn different. Then you might be teaching them to remediate and help with the dyslexia, but they're just graphic and they're dyscalculia and they're ADHD.

 

00:21:45:20 - 00:22:14:02

Unknown

But you didn't do any of that because you only tested for what are they. There isn't even called tested. No. They're screened screened, screened for dyslexia. What's going to happen is there's going to be so many more kids that fall through those cracks and then really get left behind because they maybe didn't pass that screening or they didn't fail that screaming, whatever, whatever, whatever term you want to use to say, oh, wait, they could be dyslexic, so they could be still struggling in school.

 

00:22:14:02 - 00:22:32:15

Unknown

They could be just graphic or just. And because they can read and they're successful in that, they don't look like they're struggling in other aspects. Again, you know, I had a friend obviously, you know, die recently of cancer. All right. So what if we said the doctor said any pets and you can only screen one part of your body for cancer or one.

 

00:22:32:15 - 00:22:45:12

Unknown

One? No. One person, one place. Oh, where do you want? You want. Do you want your kidney? Do you want your bones? Do you want your brain? Which one you get to pick?

 

00:22:45:14 - 00:23:20:12

Unknown

Does that sound ludicrous? So does all this why we're doing it completely ass backwards. Ran by people who don't have a clue again? Yep, 40% of dyslexic ADHD with 40. So if your kids reading at 40%, are you happy? Or if your kids got 40% in science class, if your friends, your kids got 40% in English, are you happy as a parent?

 

00:23:20:14 - 00:23:39:09

Unknown

Probably not to. How does this make sense? It doesn't, but it's just going to be all the people being like, we are doing so much. What are you talking about? We were working feverishly to get this act passed. Let's see what what is attached to the act. Why is this being pushed? Is their money behind it? Is someone getting paid for these things?

 

00:23:39:15 - 00:23:55:06

Unknown

Yeah. Yeah, well, there's a ton of screeners out there. There's tons of them. I created this screener. I don't give a flying about your screener again.

 

00:23:55:08 - 00:24:12:20

Unknown

You know, now we're not talking something that's 1 in 1,000,000. Now we're talking I think there's 90 million kids from birth to 18 here in North America.

 

00:24:12:22 - 00:24:31:08

Unknown

It's a lot of kids. And we're not talking, you know, 1 in 1,000,000. So we're we're not talking 90 kids out of this. Yeah. We're you know, I think the rate is 30 to 40% of people have learning disorders.

 

00:24:31:10 - 00:24:34:16

Unknown

That's a high number.

 

00:24:34:18 - 00:24:42:08

Unknown

And there's a lot of money spent on people that.

 

00:24:42:10 - 00:24:58:14

Unknown

Think that this is going to help. You've never struggled. So think I think that's the right answer. Teacher in grade five. How'd that go? Oh, Brant thinking.

 

00:24:58:16 - 00:25:32:14

Unknown

Isn't the right answer. What's the answer? I think that's not going to work in a test. Why are we thinking on children's lives and people's livelihood, their mental health? Because the buzzword. Oh, it looks cool, I think, and make money off this. I think you sent me something last week of the week before about, oh, get get trained in dyslexia in 20 minutes or something.

 

00:25:32:16 - 00:25:48:20

Unknown

And that's the thing. It's it is people being like, we are making a difference. We're doing it, but they're doing it half ass backwards, half ass backwards. And it's not the full picture. That's like getting a job and being like, well, I finished. Oh no, I didn't do that side. Well, I did this side of the house, but I didn't do that side.

 

00:25:48:20 - 00:26:29:03

Unknown

But I asked you to do the whole house. Well, this is good enough, right? No, it's not good enough. If I asked you to do a whole job, you do the whole job. So finding out how someone learns the whole way, like when you said, like, you know, 30 to 40% of people have learning disabilities or learning disorders, I was like, if you take those 30 to 40% and put them in a nontraditional school setting and taught them how their brain learns, it actually wouldn't be a disorder because they would be learning the way that their brain works.

 

00:26:29:05 - 00:26:48:15

Unknown

But instead, we tell people they have to learn this way because this is how it's always been done, and this is what the school system is. But more and more people are not fitting into that box. And so now, oh, you have a learning disorder too. You have a learning disorder, you have a specified learning disability. You have a specified learning disability.

 

00:26:48:17 - 00:27:17:18

Unknown

Well, no. Let's find out what that specified learning disability is. So then we can teach you to that specified learning disability. And then maybe it's not a disability. Maybe it then it does become a superpower like how everyone talks, right. But instead we go the opposite way, teach you how you're not going to learn, and then tell you there's something wrong with you because you don't learn in the system that we created for not for your brain, but for a small percentage of people's brains.

 

00:27:17:18 - 00:27:31:16

Unknown

And as the world is getting broader and broader and things are changing and changing, there's going to be more percentages because the way traditional school is done is so wrong. We've known that forever. It's so broken.

 

00:27:31:18 - 00:28:00:19

Unknown

You know? And they said if we went and got everybody diagnosed and, you know, a full, narrow battery, how the world would change. Obviously farmers are not going to let us because, you know, they're worried about their, you know, Mads being, you know, being sold. So this is this would be a farmer fight. But pharma fight. But I don't think it should be.

 

00:28:00:20 - 00:28:31:14

Unknown

Obviously I'm in a different, different place because a lot of people have diagnosed, you know, ADHD. What's the most misdiagnosed learning disability in the world for girls? IT, H2, ADHD, I call it ADHD one and two. One's bouncing off the wall as myself. Two is one weary daydream. How many girls have ADHD can sit quietly in their desk and just daydream.

 

00:28:31:16 - 00:29:00:16

Unknown

That was my sister, right? You know, nobody's ever heard of it. Put it that way. So as much as pharma thinks that they get interrupted in their med diagnosis, they wouldn't it even out because there are a lot of people that again, and I'm obviously against, you know, against meds. But there's times where you need it, there's times where it's severe and you do what you need to do for your kid, however that is.

 

00:29:00:18 - 00:29:27:09

Unknown

But it's so much if you went to a doctor and only got a little bit of the. So you go and get bloodwork. All right. So we did 12 tests, 12 different things. You can pick one group. There's three in each group. Which group do you want me to to look at for you. And if you did that with a doctor it'd be like, you do it.

 

00:29:27:09 - 00:29:51:02

Unknown

I want to know what all 12 is. What? Sir? I'm sorry. You can't. You can only pick one. This is how this works. Now, you would say this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's exactly what you're saying to a kid. Yep. And so I'm like, I know everyone is a huge win in the dyslexic world because there's all like, you know, we got past this and now everyone's going to get screened.

 

00:29:51:04 - 00:30:11:19

Unknown

But I don't think it's a huge win. I think it's a disservice. And I'm going to tell you in, since I have two kids that don't have to lexia, but they do have dysgraphia and dyscalculia, and just a little story is so my middle son was training to be a lifeguard. And it's a lot of physical, a lot of physical stuff.

 

00:30:11:19 - 00:30:34:17

Unknown

So that was like not nothing the testing for Baywatch is I was trying to get he could totally be on Baywatch. So he the the practice test. We had a huge storm, so they had to cancel it. So as we were driving there and he's like a very chill kid. Not an anxiety kid, not a nervous kid. I was like, so how are you feeling?

 

00:30:34:18 - 00:30:57:00

Unknown

He's like, you know, and we got dumped on by the nor'easter. So the ocean temperatures was going to be like seven degrees colder than they've been going in. So it was like in the like 5253. Now, if anyone's been in that temperature for long periods of time, like that's cold for a human body. So one of the things that they do is they make sure that you don't get show any signs of hypothermia.

 

00:30:57:00 - 00:31:22:05

Unknown

So they like your body. You can't really control that. You can try to have your mind control that. But so he's like definitely not looking forward to the ocean because it's been warmer. And they said it's going to be like as cold as it was when we started two months ago. So that was like pretty brutal. He's like but he's like the other thing is he's like, I hope they go over some of the saves again, because there was a lot of grab with your left hand.

 

00:31:22:05 - 00:31:44:16

Unknown

Pull over your right, throw with your left. Examples example, example. And I was like oh Jesus. And he's like I didn't he's like I didn't get to physically practice it. They just said it. And so we were supposed to physically practice it in the practice test. He was like, so I hope they like, let us do that for a second, because that's definitely going to like throw me because I need, you know.

 

00:31:44:17 - 00:32:05:15

Unknown

And I said to him, I said, do you realize that that's part of your description, dyscalculia. And he I think it's just graphium more than dyscalculia. But he said, oh no, I didn't actually. And I was like, yeah, that's 100% what that is. And so that's why you need to physically do it. And he did fine. He passed with flying colors and stuff.

 

00:32:05:16 - 00:32:21:16

Unknown

And I actually asked him and I was like, did they? He's like, they went over a little bit. We got to see like the person ahead of us do it. So he was able to do that. But so that's like going and if he was screened for the dyslexic screener, he would have gone under the radar because he doesn't have dyslexia.

 

00:32:21:16 - 00:32:42:11

Unknown

But then with math and the dysgraphia, which is the handwriting, but it's the way he processes. That's how I say it's a handwriting, but it's also very much a processing things as school gets harder is when we realized he's not able to memorize the amount of stuff that he was memorized, he basically memorized take a test. So that's how he learned.

 

00:32:42:11 - 00:33:01:23

Unknown

He wasn't learning, he was memorizing and then taking the test and moving on because it wasn't stuff that he was interested in, like histories and English and all of that stuff. Always fine. But the other things that he actually had to kind of memorize so he would be missed. Same with my daughter. And that's.

 

00:33:02:00 - 00:33:29:11

Unknown

It's just I don't think dyslexia, you know, it is a buzzword now 100%. I don't think we've made any strides. No, not at all. Just a lot of silence. It's a lot of words with nothing behind it. It's not in no substance, no meaning, you know, dyslexia. This sucks. It great when only less than 10% in the world has ever been diagnosed.

 

00:33:29:13 - 00:33:54:15

Unknown

It's like, you know, how many how many parents did we come across? Or their kid gets diagnosed. And then obviously, you know, the so the question is where did it come from? I guess my husband or my wife's grandfather had whatever it is. Right. But they've never been diagnosed. You know, right now, obviously mental health is a big thing.

 

00:33:54:16 - 00:34:04:04

Unknown

I choose mental health, men's mental health. What's the number one contributor to mental health?

 

00:34:04:06 - 00:34:33:14

Unknown

Learning disorders. We're not diagnosing learners. So what are we creating. Mental health. So why don't we diagnose and lessen mental health. Nah that sounds dumb because guess what? People can't fucking make money, right? Right. Because the the just and the discount. Cool. Even though I think those numbers are way higher than they say they are, I really think that those are actually probably really high.

 

00:34:33:16 - 00:34:54:11

Unknown

But because they don't have a lot of those are harder in my opinion. Meaning if you don't have like everyone will say to me, well, what did you do for? And I'm like, I didn't do anything that is calculator that like Montgomery had one teacher that was like, I actually don't think he's as coolly as we think he was able to learn.

 

00:34:54:11 - 00:35:19:03

Unknown

But the guy literally took a month studying like the internet, like he was in his dyslexic school. I mean, you're not getting that with the with most public school teachers. So that's the thing. Like, so there's so much of that that's out there, the handwriting stuff, it's like, oh my god, that was like ridiculous. The stuff that they said, let's do this so you can help with that.

 

00:35:19:03 - 00:35:42:09

Unknown

No, that none of that fucking worked. And we just pissed away money. More money than we needed to. And so they really don't have a lot of things out there for that in my opinion. You know, as I don't know if I've sent this to you recently, Jonathan gets like, you know, Norwegian College has done a study. That handwriting helps the brain.

 

00:35:42:14 - 00:36:02:15

Unknown

All right. No fucking shit, Sherlock, you have to go and spend. How many years and how many? How much fucking money on the study. We already know that we live it. So thanks for fucking wasting more millions of dollars and just got to write your article in the fucking you. No medical journal, whatever it is. And these dyslexics, you know, groups are.

 

00:36:02:16 - 00:36:29:15

Unknown

Oh, look how you know I post some one. You know, one. I saw it somewhere. I'm like, I comment, I'm like, yeah, no shit Sherlock. Yeah. So how much money was spent on that? You know, on the research. How many years to come with weird fucking know that. Yeah. So how much money, time? And then, you know, back to my area with cell phones, like.

 

00:36:29:17 - 00:37:02:03

Unknown

That's not causing this is accelerating it maybe. Is it making it some worse right behavior. How about you trying to relate to me? How about you try and take a second to understand me? Now, if all teachers knew how kids brains work, it'd be so much easier. Let me tell you, your marriage wouldn't be very good. If your love language is never getting filled is always getting the opposite, you'd be pissed.

 

00:37:02:05 - 00:37:25:00

Unknown

So are the kids. My brains work this way and you're telling me it has to work that way? That's not how reality fucking works. So of course they get mad. Of course, behavior comes into play because you start snapping. I shouldn't be throwing a disc at a kid in grade three. Gonna leave it at that, like review rate and share.

 

00:37:25:02 - 00:37:39:14

Unknown

Did I do that backwards? Like, rate review and share whatever. I said the same thing, but just not the same order as I usually do. You don't know who needs to hear this. This is word blindness. And we are in season five.