S5E5: Understanding Dyslexia Through Everyday Moments

In this episode, Brent and Juliet explore the nuances of dyslexia, the importance of early diagnosis, and how personal experiences shape perceptions and resilience. They share insights on understanding, support, and the power of self-awareness in overcoming challenges.

 

Chapters

 

00:00 Introduction to personal stories and community support

02:03 The significance of early diagnosis in dyslexia

04:00 Impact of societal perceptions and bullying

05:54 Support systems and personal resilience

07:49 The role of self-awareness in overcoming challenges

09:50 Community advocacy and shared experiences

12:04 Educational challenges and accommodations

13:57 The importance of understanding diverse perspectives

16:01 Personal growth and overcoming societal judgments

18:04 The power of confidence and self-advocacy

20:15 Reflections on personal journeys and future outlooks

 

Transcript

00:00:10:09 - 00:00:31:16

Unknown

So I got the sweetest text this weekend, which just made me really happy. One of someone that I connected with on LinkedIn. That's all. You know, the social foundation and the stuff that we've been doing with dyslexia and the conversations I've been having around dyslexia. Is that how you connected through through LinkedIn? Yeah, I'm almost positive. I have to look back when I'm almost positive.

 

00:00:31:17 - 00:00:50:17

Unknown

She sent me a note and just said she's dyslexic. She's in the financial world early. Got married. Should we share, like an anniversary? It was, like cute. It was like, all before she got married. And we've talked now a number of times. And really, she listens to the podcast, so. Hi, Nikki, if you're listening, but just a really just like a solid girl.

 

00:00:50:19 - 00:01:08:16

Unknown

Her mom was a really big advocate for her. Really helped. And so we've had like a couple really nice conversations. And she's probably going to help, like in the five D collective. She's like 100% jump on. I think my mom would love to do that too. So like that's, you know, all really good things. She sent me an email.

 

00:01:08:17 - 00:01:34:00

Unknown

I mean, a text and said, I know you'll appreciate this. She's like, I was tying my shoe. And my husband was like, how did you just do that? And so they got into this whole shoe tying conversation and she said, you know, it definitely became more prevalent because of the podcast, because we talk about, you know, with dyslexics to all of those, like shoe like and it's such a simple thing, but kids can struggle.

 

00:01:34:00 - 00:01:58:16

Unknown

Not all because we talked about Montgomery, like literally hyper focused and like, locked himself in a closet for like three days to make himself do it because he was like, I'm not going to not do it. But it was difficult. And we do it a little different, like some people do the bunny ears, some people do one. And the same thing, how you hold the pencil, it's it comes down to the to the fine motor skills, you know.

 

00:01:58:18 - 00:02:38:09

Unknown

And it's a cute text. You know, I'm glad she has support, you know, from her mom to advocate to get. She's obviously in the finance world, so doing well. You know, I'm glad her her husband, they had fun with it, right? You know, because that could have gone south very quickly. You know, for an individual, you know, husband or wife or whoever that may be and, you know, look down to, you know, the way you hold your pencil to, to weigh, you know, she ties, releases.

 

00:02:38:11 - 00:03:07:18

Unknown

We get so soft conscious of it. If somebody makes fun of us and they may not be doing it like the high school or the middle school, cutthroat, you know, trying, you know, just just a subtle jab, of. What are you doing? You don't. Are you dumb? You know, like, you can't hold your pencil. How do you hold your pencil?

 

00:03:07:19 - 00:03:24:14

Unknown

Like what? You can't tell your shoe, like, just, you know. So it made me happy to. Obviously, there's a cute text to, you know, it was nicer to share, and it was nice that she had felt that she had the little support in the area. Right. You know, having that Tia but her husband and they had fun with it.

 

00:03:24:14 - 00:03:48:05

Unknown

And like I said, you know, I started this, it could have gone south, you know, very quickly because the wrong quick jab there takes us down in a different way than, you know, other things like we talk about. Right. And this is, you know, we always talk about like, what are we going to talk about? Before I was like, look, let's think about like I'm like, I'm going to start with this.

 

00:03:48:05 - 00:04:11:18

Unknown

And you're like, just, just record. And one of our Dwight, who is also, you know, has been really gotten involved. He was on the podcast. He always will say he really loves listening to this podcast because he really likes us. You know, our not bickering because it's not that but our different views. And like when you said that, I it's so interesting.

 

00:04:11:19 - 00:04:35:10

Unknown

There was not even a moment in my thought pattern of, oh wait, that could have went south, that could have been a sensitive subject. And it's so interesting because I am so sensitive around this topic. But how we all grew up, how we were all built, all of our all of our.

 

00:04:35:12 - 00:04:54:17

Unknown

Experiences through life, right, shape those things. But this is why, you know, the foundation and the kid and the chair is always so important. We both talk about it and why this podcast is important because of the different views. Like, I didn't think of it at all. I was like, oh, it's just so cute, right? I totally something that Dan would be like, how did you just tie your shoe?

 

00:04:54:18 - 00:05:17:19

Unknown

That's like, incredible. How did that even come to your mind? Which there has been times with that, right? But it's when you're comfortable in yourself, right? And it's when you have that support and you know, that person's not coming at you. But like when you're on an island alone for as long as you have have been and were, it takes it a different thing, right?

 

00:05:17:20 - 00:05:42:04

Unknown

So I didn't even think of it that way. But now when you said that, I was like, oh, right, that could have been something. But. Right. Because I didn't even think about that. Their newly married right. And he, you know, he could have said something off the cuff like just, not meaning it. And that's the thing to all this is.

 

00:05:42:06 - 00:05:58:18

Unknown

A job, you know, I don't even know if the job is the right way to kind of say, you know, just a comment. Those hit us differently, right? So I love the fact that they had fun with it. But, you know, it's,

 

00:05:58:20 - 00:06:03:08

Unknown

Because, you know, I was golfing.

 

00:06:03:10 - 00:06:13:06

Unknown

Last week and polymerase events and, you know, I was with a, you know, with a guy who a real estate investor and.

 

00:06:13:08 - 00:06:29:14

Unknown

He's got a kidney disease. And we talked about dyslexia and he couldn't wrap his brain around the obviously he could understand the embarrassment, but he couldn't understand.

 

00:06:29:16 - 00:06:36:00

Unknown

You know, why? You know, people don't donate to things that are not okay.

 

00:06:36:02 - 00:06:53:09

Unknown

Just like her husband couldn't wrap was around. How do you tell your shoes like that? But you did it in a sweet way where it didn't, you know, didn't take her down. Because if it took her down, she wouldn't have shared it with you. Absolutely. And when you're talking about the pencil thing, like, that's another thing that was so interesting.

 

00:06:53:10 - 00:07:07:20

Unknown

You know, we were doing some behind the scenes work and I was videoed on, on writing or something, and there was a group of us and every single one of you noticed, they're like, oh, how you grab how you hold your pencil. And I was like, what? How do I hold my pencil? Like, I totally was like, no, that's normal.

 

00:07:07:20 - 00:07:27:13

Unknown

Isn't that how that's how Dan or nobody's ever said anything about your pencil? No, I think I and I actually don't even know. It's funny because I do remember growing up and it always being a thing with the teachers. And I used to get so irritated because I always had that stupid square, but then I would chew it and so I would.

 

00:07:27:18 - 00:07:54:01

Unknown

I was like, so that says a lot right there. That makes sense. Yeah, I literally I would chew the end of my hands on to that. And so when Montgomery like started in school, I remember being like, oh, honey, you're going to have to have that grip. But I do remember that being a sensitive topic. But it's funny, my dad, because I was telling my dad that story and my dad said, your mom was always big on.

 

00:07:54:01 - 00:08:10:08

Unknown

And I was like, great mom always would cricket. And she said, he's like, oh, that's not how I remember it. He's like, I think there's a bunch of kindergartners throughout new Jersey that hold their pencil the way you hold your pencil, because your mom, when she was in Catholic school, they would rip the pencil out of her hand if you were doing something.

 

00:08:10:08 - 00:08:27:22

Unknown

So she would hold it so tight that the nuns couldn't pull it out of her hands. And I was like, oh, wait, what? I was like, I do remember the conversations. I was like, I don't think so. I remember mom being like, no, you have to hold your pencil this way. And he's like, yeah, I remember when we were little, when you guys were little being like, Barbara, wait, you're getting her teacher.

 

00:08:27:23 - 00:08:54:03

Unknown

That's not. That's not how your mom holds her pencil. Pencil, I don't know now. Now I gotta go. Now I have to look at it. I'm going to be looking at everyone's peaking, at everyone's a pencil grip. So I think everyone probably holds their pencil the way I hold my pencil or I it's, you know, those things like, we like, I'm a super observant person, but I'm a very observant person when it comes to people's words.

 

00:08:54:05 - 00:09:18:18

Unknown

There's like and body language. But when it comes to like things like that, the going live and the the face. Yeah, I could feel people all the time. No, I don't know. No, because not everyone likes the fact. Okay. By the way now okay, I have self-awareness. So now we're going to go back to the airplane. So on the airplane, like I don't talk to people first.

 

00:09:18:19 - 00:09:33:07

Unknown

They I promise you and I know you don't believe me and that's fine. But just like I don't FaceTime people, I know people that don't. If I didn't have self-awareness, do you have any fucking voice notes? I would leave you. I have constraint, I don't because I know you don't like them, so why would I do that? That's not fair.

 

00:09:33:08 - 00:09:56:03

Unknown

I wouldn't do something I was just referring it to is because, you know, I would say, yo, I listen to words more than I look at actions, right? Right, right, right. Yeah. So that's, you know, that's and that's the referencing to to the FaceTime like yeah. You're, you're, you want to look at people's reactions more than you. The words.

 

00:09:56:08 - 00:10:12:15

Unknown

Absolutely. And I rather hear the words not the reactions. Right. And it's interesting because with the interview that we had with Jared, he said the same thing about players, right? He's like, if a player is looking down, you have to ask them like, are you not listening or are you focused? And when he said that, like, I was like, oh, that's so interesting.

 

00:10:12:15 - 00:10:42:00

Unknown

That's totally what you do. But if you think about a kid, right, a kid that's young is told, make eye contact, make eye contact, make eye contact. And if the kid can't focus, that's a really hard thing. So yes. No, I don't FaceTime. I like a good FaceTime. And that was again, that was the only reason I was saying that because you like to look at, you know, I just declining FaceTime so I'll know only only Gooby likes to FaceTime.

 

00:10:42:00 - 00:11:12:19

Unknown

Oh really. Right. Yeah. So I like my siblings. My one sibling will will. But I'm also okay with on the phone like that. If it's just like a conversation, if I really if there's like something behind the conversation or that sounds weird, but like zoom, like if I'm working with clients or doing like that, that it's like I need to see the person and do it because I know I'm going to get a different read than if I was just listening to their to their voice, because I can tell I also, you know, what?

 

00:11:12:21 - 00:11:30:12

Unknown

It's and you're going to buy that for this. I can also take cues when I know, okay, this is this is why I need to really see people, because I can see if what I'm saying is really relating or if it's not. And then I know exactly, okay, this is not where this person wants to go and then change the subject.

 

00:11:30:12 - 00:11:58:17

Unknown

So that's really why I like to see someone and I'm with y'all a lot of there's times where it's distracting to me right now. There's times where I have to look down or to to hear the, you know, to hear the words. It's like music I don't have. I don't hear words in musics and so on. Like, I'll never forget one day I'm driving with Paul.

 

00:11:58:17 - 00:12:14:01

Unknown

One day he's like, oh my God, congratulations. You almost got the words right. But you know, I hear the music, right? So it's almost it's an almost you can't do two things at once per se.

 

00:12:14:03 - 00:12:38:00

Unknown

Do you get distracted by the person's face like or does your like attention deficit go or then you're like off to a different thing like oh they have blue eyes or no like no. Yeah. Like here's everything else around, right. What else. You know while it's going on again I, I pick off more, you know, more of the words.

 

00:12:38:00 - 00:13:03:21

Unknown

You know, it's what what was led in that sentence. What what was followed up. How did they you know, how did they say it? That's where I, what did they see? Say three sentences go to lead into, you know, into this sentence, you know, so, that's that's where I get my and I can on the phone is easier.

 

00:13:04:00 - 00:13:24:16

Unknown

And for me, we're on calls. I want to pace, but you have to move like I want to walk. I don't want to sit walking, you know? Then I can focus. Now I get that. Yeah. Yeah. Sitting,

 

00:13:24:18 - 00:13:46:22

Unknown

You know, for me, you know, is hard easier. It's sitting, you know, and let's put, you know, reference into it. You know, the kid in the chair, it's like me sitting is, you know, trying to trying to focus so hard on what the person saying, aka the teacher as a kid in the chair that they're focusing on sitting, not moving, trying to be quiet.

 

00:13:46:23 - 00:14:26:18

Unknown

They don't hear the words, you know, Montgomery, you know, the teachers, teachers, moth right now. Now you're not listening. I'm a lot a lot of the same way, right? You know, so when I'm pacing, right, let's say walking circles around the yard. Right? I'm not focusing on staying still on focus on what the person saying. Do you think as like, do you think that that was like an innate gift that you got with your you can say you're just like you're not the listening to people's words or do you think you like did you realize because there had been a time where you realized, oh, wait, if I'm looking down or not looking at them,

 

00:14:26:18 - 00:14:44:07

Unknown

I can hone in even more. Or is that just something like gradually because of your background, that like you, you saw like, oh, I need to listen to the words because this agents fucking full of shit. And I like, like I could tell if someone's bullshitting. And so I need to really Spidey sense that up. Yeah, I think I think that's that's the key.

 

00:14:44:08 - 00:15:15:00

Unknown

You know, I've had so many bullshit in my life, right? Trying to, you know, and they can especially in, you know, in this dyslexic world, you know, the guy, then, you know, like, off with a super nice guy, you know, he's, he's got a kidney disease. You know, his son's got a kidney disease. So they've had you know, he's he's had a couple of transplants and, you know, so, some some crazy stuff.

 

00:15:15:01 - 00:15:44:03

Unknown

But he couldn't, you know, you couldn't wrap his brain around. I don't even know where I was going with that. It's about bullshit. Like, knowing I I've had to cover myself for so long, I can ask for it. And a lot of times, I'll ask certain questions to see how they're how they answer them. And, you know, for those those words, I don't know.

 

00:15:44:05 - 00:16:04:21

Unknown

I can't remember what the connection was with, you know, Scott, but, in my time, I've had to figure out what's going to be the dyslexic world so corrupt as we talk about it all the time, you know, and I was kind of telling him, you know, a little bit, you know, he's, you know, not ran by dyslexics, you know, all kind of stuff.

 

00:16:04:21 - 00:16:27:09

Unknown

So in our world, I've had to hear I've had to keen on the words. To see if they're full of shit. Right. And I was on a, I was on really in a couple of weeks ago. I was on a call and talked to the two guys a couple minutes ago. You know, you know, you're going to believe us.

 

00:16:27:09 - 00:16:53:11

Unknown

You're going to trust us that we can do this. I said, absolutely not. And I want what you heard me. Absolutely not. And they were so blown away that I said that. But, you know, we operate in a different, different light, you know, in a different area. We operate and you know. Well, yeah, she's like, I think most people are good.

 

00:16:53:12 - 00:17:21:08

Unknown

They mean good. I'm like, no. Yeah. 80% of 80, 80 to 90% of people aren't good. Don't mean good I disagree but that's that's right. Yeah. Let's break this down in our world in this. Are they good. Right. So right. If you departamental different groups I understand that. Yeah. You know so you know long and short. So I've really had the key on onwards.

 

00:17:21:08 - 00:17:41:19

Unknown

And how do they say it. How do they preference. What what comes after this statement to open the door and where I know you're full of shit or and a lot of it has had to do with intentions. You'll do you have good intentions to want to partner up with the foundation? Or do you try to try to use my name?

 

00:17:41:20 - 00:18:00:00

Unknown

Right. You know, so it's something that I've had to deal with, you know, good portion of my life because who I am and what I've done, I've had to catch on. And being burned as many times as I as I have.

 

00:18:00:01 - 00:18:29:01

Unknown

Obviously, my spidey sense is already going into it negatively anyways, so you've got to prove to me opposite so it's easier to catch going into these conversations that way. Okay, so I've, I have a few questions. Imagine that. Have you ever is there anyone that's ever surprised you that you really were like, okay, I think this person's full of shit and blah, blah, blah.

 

00:18:29:01 - 00:18:43:00

Unknown

And then you gave it a chance and they like and you were like, okay, I was wrong. Or your instincts. Pretty spot on. Never. Okay. No.

 

00:18:43:02 - 00:18:54:21

Unknown

Never. Has anybody surprised me. Okay. Thank you. No. Meaning that they are good people.

 

00:18:54:23 - 00:19:18:03

Unknown

And, you know, I thought they were full of full shit, and then they turned out to be right. Good people. Right? So, like you, you can sense right away, pretty much. Even though you go in like, okay, I think, you know, this person is like, you go in thinking, okay, I need to be cautious, right? But like, you can very quickly be like, okay, that's a good person.

 

00:19:18:03 - 00:19:40:03

Unknown

I can like let that like go or like, oh no, that's not I could feel that bullshit, you know, barometer. Right. You know, and then, you know, especially in our, in, you know, dyslexic world, right. You know, if that's obviously the big gap that we talk about. Right. It's in when I told Scott, you know, there's only two foundations in world ran by dyslexics for dyslexia.

 

00:19:40:03 - 00:20:14:06

Unknown

He's like what. You know no headquarters. What like you know he was blown away. He's like, you know, obviously it serves on some non-profits. You know. You know, they're massive, massive real estate firm. You know, kids got, you know, kidney disease, had to transplant like, so he's lived that and he's like, I've never heard anything like before in that, you know, and I think we operate in such a different space when it comes to.

 

00:20:14:08 - 00:20:39:09

Unknown

In the dyslexic world. And I think the biggest portion is that they're not, you know, they're not dyslexic, right. So they show their hand quickly. Because we have it, you know, we operate a little bit differently. So they always expose themselves quickly. Okay. So that taking it outside the dyslexic world, like in your whole life.

 

00:20:39:11 - 00:21:00:04

Unknown

Has there been one like or time that you were like, no. Okay. I mean, but that's like that's why you also are so like, you know, have this conviction like, no, I know I've, I've pretty much hit the nail on the head every time. Okay. So my second question is, which this always kind of this is like a little psychology.

 

00:21:00:04 - 00:21:20:21

Unknown

This kind of fascinates me. So if you think about we all have our strengths and weaknesses, right. Like we're born, we're all born differently with those strengths and weaknesses. And then there's a time in life that things, you know, they're I know you don't completely believe this or just go with me, okay? You know that. I believe that there's a path, you know?

 

00:21:20:22 - 00:21:46:01

Unknown

Yes. Not everyone gets on their path 100%. That doesn't happen. But when people get on their path, it's, you know, the way things go. Do you think that because of what you went through as being a professional hockey player and how you really had to be like, okay, I can't like, I can't get taken advantage of, right? Did you go into that and then had the time where you were like taking advantage of and then you were like, oh, I need to swing it?

 

00:21:46:01 - 00:22:02:23

Unknown

Or have you always been like this person that was like, hey, I think they're not. Everyone is always good. Does that make sense? Because you you meet people that will say, like, I used to think people were good and I got burned so many times. Now on the opposite side of like, someone like me, I do really believe people are good.

 

00:22:03:00 - 00:22:13:20

Unknown

Have I gotten burned a few times? 100%. I've gotten burned, but that's not going to take. I could never be any other way. I really don't think I could ever be any other way.

 

00:22:13:22 - 00:22:17:05

Unknown

No, I think.

 

00:22:17:07 - 00:22:23:04

Unknown

The more I get burnt right?

 

00:22:23:06 - 00:22:47:02

Unknown

Obviously you're probably, I definitely got burnt and more. I got burnt and more. More flipped. I was very kind of like, you know, when I was younger, right? But the more I. The more I got burnt and the more I got burnt, and,

 

00:22:47:04 - 00:23:14:05

Unknown

Once on a on a constant cycle because. Because what I did, they all wanted peace, you know, things for me, you know, then it was never reciprocated. So it definitely started one way, and now it's. And now you got hardened, right. Got it got hardened. And then now, that's obviously from the hawk world. But then you get into this world.

 

00:23:14:05 - 00:23:47:14

Unknown

And how many people, you know, in our, our time together have we come across. Right. That's, you know, the intentions are for their business or you know, you know, go to go learn how to be a dyslexic counselor in 30 minutes here, you know? Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, it is really interesting. And one of the things that the reason why I asked you that because I was recently talking to someone, there was a deep conversation.

 

00:23:47:14 - 00:24:16:04

Unknown

But one of the things one time someone sent me something on Victoria Beckham, it was like her. She did an interview and it's about her podcast, and I. I'm not someone that like, follows celebrities. Like, I don't really know people's like interpersonal stuff. It's just not something that I like really focus on. But I listen to this interview, and in the interview she talks about how terribly she was bullied for her dyslexia, but for everything, just the way she looked, everything.

 

00:24:16:04 - 00:24:35:05

Unknown

And she's just like, you know, she's right. Like she's like, it was brutal every day. And the one thing she said was, I look at it now and I wouldn't have been able to be in the spotlight if I didn't get hardened, like I never would be able to be where I am if I didn't have those experiences as a kid.

 

00:24:35:05 - 00:24:56:11

Unknown

And I was like, wow, I never yes, I think of things in those perspectives a lot because I like to go deep. I like to talk about philosophy and the reasons why. But that struck me because I was like, it's so interesting. Yes, I think people's paths help them get to where they're supposed to be 100% right. That's, you know, that's evolution.

 

00:24:56:11 - 00:25:13:23

Unknown

I believe that's God, the universe, whatever it is. I really, truly believe that. But it sat with me and I remember talking to someone that their child had been really bullied and or they were going through it. And I said, and I was like, listen, I've never experienced it. So I don't like take this for what this is.

 

00:25:13:23 - 00:25:33:13

Unknown

But I listened and it was right after I listened to that, that interview and they just said, wow, you know, it doesn't make it easier because it's like fucking brutal to watch my kid go through this. And I'm like, no, I cannot imagine. And I'm really like, I'm sorry. I hope I never have to imagine, you know? But it is an interesting thing.

 

00:25:33:14 - 00:25:59:01

Unknown

Like, maybe your child is built for greatness and this right now, life is so hard for them because it's preparing them for what they're going to be doing. And I do believe that that's what your path has been 100%. I believe that I've told you that. And I know you're you do that to me. But I do believe, like you have gone through the trenches because you're supposed to be where you are to help this community.

 

00:25:59:03 - 00:26:23:16

Unknown

Right? I know that my background has kept me where I am because exactly what I'm doing and I can see it, I can literally see it vivid, like, vividly. And I'm like, wow, that's so interesting. Connecting those dots. Yeah. You know, the the obviously everything supposed to happen. You know, it's supposed to happen, right? You know, that's your path, you know.

 

00:26:23:18 - 00:26:43:14

Unknown

And what I get out of that story, you know, is, as I was telling Scott the other day, I'm like, you need me a dyslexic who's powerful and, you know, rich and powerful. I'd do something about it, right? Yeah. She doesn't she does not do anything in the community. And this is like she was bullied into many other ways.

 

00:26:43:14 - 00:27:16:21

Unknown

It wasn't like her dyslexia was. She talks about it tiny bit, but it was really the bullying. And it wasn't she wasn't bullied 100% because of justice Lexia. It was all these other things. But yeah, well, you know, in that, you know, I, that goes hand in hand, right? You'll the ADHD kid, you know, a close talker or the kid that says weird things, you know, it so, you know, she talked obviously she talks about, you know, being bullied.

 

00:27:16:23 - 00:27:40:20

Unknown

That's a big portion of this lexia. Right? We we, our parents are wired differently, so we don't process things the same. We don't see things the same. You know, we don't understand things the same. And kids are assholes, right? You know, they're not nice. And you go to middle school and they're they're going after you for anything and everything they possibly can, you know?

 

00:27:40:22 - 00:27:51:00

Unknown

So if we did a survey of dyslexic parents.

 

00:27:51:02 - 00:27:57:09

Unknown

What the percentage of them where their kids were bullied.

 

00:27:57:11 - 00:28:13:10

Unknown

Would be really high number. Right. And I remember saying to you when we first got together, right, I was like, no, I don't know. And you were like, what? What do you mean? And I was like, no, I and I don't again, I don't know why. I think it was the right place at the right time, whatever it was like.

 

00:28:13:11 - 00:28:26:17

Unknown

And I didn't experience experience it. But then more talking. Your house is huge, right? I think that's to me that's one of the biggest things. Right. You know.

 

00:28:26:19 - 00:28:49:05

Unknown

Obviously I didn't find until later. So I just thought I was, you know, the odd, the odd was clearly am, but it was if you got to understanding behind it, the younger you get that, the less things affect you because you don't believe it. Right. And you had that in your house. You had understanding, right? You know, from your mom for advocating, right?

 

00:28:49:06 - 00:29:12:08

Unknown

You know, obviously your sister, your dad like you, you got, you know, you you guys understood it, right. And that took you down a different path in my mind. And when I said this the other day, we're on a podcast or something, I'm like, we always dyslexic, will always take the the bad path of the negative path. And guys like why?

 

00:29:12:09 - 00:29:31:17

Unknown

Why? I'm like, because if we don't have the support, we don't have the understanding. We live in that kind of space. So we stay in that space. You know, if you come to a turn, you know, you know, why do you know this is presenting people in prison, right? Why? Because we've been struggling since we grab that book.

 

00:29:31:18 - 00:29:59:10

Unknown

Right. So, when you don't, you know, when you're when you have understanding, you learn how to, you know, you learn how to swim in that world and not like, you know, I don't know how to swim. Right? And just like I didn't know how to swim the dyslexic world. But you did. Yeah. I mean, and going back to, like, I remember so many parents that we've talked to and they've talked about their kids getting bullied.

 

00:29:59:10 - 00:30:22:23

Unknown

And I was like, oh, okay. I was very fortunate, right? My kids were very fortunate. So yes, I hear you on that. But I do think it is a it is something like, if someone's listening to this and they're in the trenches, right. We're in school when this podcast goes out, people, most people are going to be in school.

 

00:30:23:00 - 00:30:54:12

Unknown

I already like talking to people in the dyslexic community without them saying it. I already can see like the moms and I'm friends with or whatever. I can already see their anxiousness, right? And they're not even saying the words. And I like that days down to yours comes. I mean, I listen, I'm anxious period. Right now. Yeah. I mean, I'm anxious and it's funny because I said to you, like when Montgomery was out of the public school system, I was like, oh, thank God.

 

00:30:54:13 - 00:31:12:14

Unknown

Like, I'm not going to have to have this anxiety about the first day of school. And then I remember when, you know, his first year of college, which was I really wasn't anxious because he had the support. I was like, it was going to be great, right? It's like, this is this is different. And then the other two, I was like, oh, motherfucker.

 

00:31:12:14 - 00:31:34:09

Unknown

So then, you know, the the anxiety came back. So my anxiety right now is just and I is dropping the kids and missing them. And I, we were on a conversation and I was saying, oh yeah, I'm saying that extra day and you said helicopter. And I laughed. And one of the things I was having a conversation with some of the moms in the area that some of them were like, oh my God, I can't fucking wait.

 

00:31:34:09 - 00:31:54:03

Unknown

And I'm like, and they're like, you're like, really? And I was like, I my favorite thing is to like, sit and watch my kids interact and interact like the family interaction. And that's what I'm going to miss. I'm not worried that they're not going to succeed. I'm not worried that like, they're going to like, never come. I'm not worried about any of that.

 

00:31:54:04 - 00:32:17:20

Unknown

It's the interaction that happens daily. Like I and I know parents love their kids. And so I'm not saying like, oh, I love my kids more than you love your kids. It's nothing like that. I truly it's like watching them. I'm so enthralled of who they are as these adults and watching them maneuver life and just being also so proud of who they are because they're really fucking cool kids.

 

00:32:17:20 - 00:32:39:19

Unknown

But just watching them like talk to Dan and debate about like the sports stuff, like there's times where I literally would be like, can I get like two seconds in, like I'm leaving and I just want everyone to know, like they're just. And then watching Penelope come in and then them having the conversation of something else and like me, involved in, in some sort of the conversation, but just literally watching and being a part of that.

 

00:32:39:20 - 00:33:10:15

Unknown

That's what I'm going to miss. And now I want to start crying because I love it so fucking much. And I'm going to miss that. That like family dynamic. Like, that's what makes me the happiest in life. Yeah. Your family, you know, is now on the next stage. Next stage. Yeah. We were talking to, both family yesterday I was with I, you know I left.

 

00:33:10:17 - 00:33:38:23

Unknown

Last time I lived at home with my parents, you know, a full time when I was 15, right? Just 16. Yeah. Wow. Right. That was never near, you know, never near them. Because this was 18 hours, you know, 18 hour drive away. Yeah. So I've, you know, so it's, you know, for me, it's just, you know, we're talking about your parents and certain point in time, you see, you always think your parents have it together.

 

00:33:38:23 - 00:34:03:10

Unknown

Then you, you know, you get an adult and you look at them. Holy fuck them. Maybe they don't. You know, you see them as real life, right? You're like, they're real people. Like, Holy. Why didn't I see this earlier? We were talking about that, but I never had that, right. I never yeah, I, you know, full time when I was 15, 16 was the last time I lived with them.

 

00:34:03:12 - 00:34:22:13

Unknown

Right. And. Yeah. Play the seeds and come back for a couple of months gone again. Right. So I've, I, you know, I never had you know, I never saw that time because I was already gone. I never, you know, the family dynamic. I, you know, I've never had it because, you know, I don't want to say have never had is I've been gone for so long, right.

 

00:34:22:14 - 00:34:41:18

Unknown

Which I totally get. Right. And I understand why people don't completely understand what I say. They're like, wow. Now, listen, I am a very deep feeler. I also know that I also there's like I am okay with change to an extent, but like this is like I mean, Truman's coming to Dallas. He may be like, Dallas is my home, right?

 

00:34:41:19 - 00:35:01:11

Unknown

He maybe never really will come back to this area. Now, I believe because we do live in a great place in the summer, there'll be he will always make a point of it. If he chooses to stay in Dallas, that will be that in the summer. Oh yeah. Yeah, I know moving in next week is going to be going to be interesting something.

 

00:35:01:13 - 00:35:25:23

Unknown

So I haven't even left I don't I don't go and then it gets you know it'll be down in the 40s. You know it'd be the big dick state. He may come back but he'll never he'll never come. Well, let's be clear. Why did you come back to New York State? So you can have some extra tests and pay some extra tax?

 

00:35:26:00 - 00:35:45:01

Unknown

I know, I know, I mean, we're trying to get the like we're we're no better, right? No. Totally. And listen. And I'm so excited for his journey. Like so excited because I see the growth that he's done even in the summer. Like it's just so cool to watch. And I'm really excited. Like that's again, I cannot emphasize enough.

 

00:35:45:01 - 00:36:02:08

Unknown

I'm not like, oh, is he going to know how to do his laundry? No, I am not my kid. No knows how to do all of that shit because I suck at all that shit. So they took over that stuff a long time ago. I don't do any one's laundry except sometimes my own. But. So all of that, like, is is so exciting.

 

00:36:02:08 - 00:36:22:03

Unknown

And that's why this time is, like, such a weird time. Because you have such pride and joy. But then you have this ache that's like, oh my God, I'm going to get on an airplane and be like by like, you know, all of the stuff on Instagram that that's sending to you. There was just someone it was like this mom with like a ten year old boy and was like, she started getting emotional.

 

00:36:22:03 - 00:36:39:04

Unknown

I was like, I remember a lot of the firsts, but I don't remember the last time I held you. And he's like, do you want to pick me up right now? And she's like, please. And she's like sobbing and that like that. Oh my God, does that hit? Like I was like, oh my God. I'm like sobbing over it.

 

00:36:39:04 - 00:37:05:20

Unknown

But it is like it's just it's interesting as we like I know he's going to be fine in school. I know we did all of that. I'm so proud that we got the combinations and that's why we also talk about that. Now I'm going to bring it back to the dyslexic world, not my emotional state. If we didn't get those to scrap and just diagnosis, he would have gone to SMU and there could have been a teacher that's like, we're not using computers now because that's why some professors are.

 

00:37:05:20 - 00:37:30:14

Unknown

And he would have been like that would have been a really tough time. Like, you know, the adjustments going to be tough period. But I know he's got the tools and colleges, you know, even worse and worse in school. You know, high school. And you know, some of those professors are just fucking cocksuckers.

 

00:37:30:16 - 00:37:57:06

Unknown

Said perfectly, y'all know I don't give a shit. This is I do this with no care whatsoever, right? They're like, you know, as you said, you're like, oh, I dropped them on coming off. Thank God he had Ashley. Right. Y'all had that had that support there. But you know parents walk. And this is where the understanding being okay with it the diagnosis the the longer you're okay with it you know longer you're okay with yourself.

 

00:37:57:07 - 00:38:19:16

Unknown

You're long longer you're okay with the whole scenario and the pool. You swimming because colleges are fucking assholes, right? You may have that. You may have a teacher. I don't give a shit what you have. This is how I do it. This is my strong. Yeah, yeah. I'm bigger than you and I'm tougher than you. I'm a fucking got my parents, you know, floodgate and fuck you.

 

00:38:19:17 - 00:38:57:05

Unknown

Right? But that's that's the word they operate. So, you know, you guys have built that understanding in your house, right? You'll it all comes, you know, it all comes hand in hand. You know, going into school without knowing, you know, without the diagnosis, without knowing. It gets sticky very quickly. Yeah. And that and I'll leave it on this one because this was interesting when you said that member Montgomery's law professor and he had to take a he was doing what was he what was his major?

 

00:38:57:07 - 00:39:16:16

Unknown

Oh my God. I'm having like a marketing senior moment. I hate when people say that. So that's the fact that I just said that makes me giggle. He was I kept wanting to say corporate fitness, but that was my first major. No. He was he's now in communications sports management. He was sports management. And in sports management.

 

00:39:16:17 - 00:39:38:09

Unknown

You take a law class and now he's sports communications. I believe he made that flip. But this teacher and Ashley had said to him, just be careful. She is really tough. And and like I have been fighting with her, she does not accept accommodations, but it's against the law and she's a like a lawyer. So whatever. So Montgomery was like, okay.

 

00:39:38:09 - 00:39:59:01

Unknown

And what Ashley said like, do not charm. Like do not go in and do not use your charm. And he's like, okay, I don't no I don't. This is just me. I'm not going to I don't know that I'm charming. This is his personality. So he went in the first day and I remember he called me and he's like, I think she thought I was charming or I was just having a fucking station.

 

00:39:59:01 - 00:40:19:00

Unknown

And he's like, so she's already was like, nope, you can't take this test out of my classroom. And he's like, okay. And it was already in soccer season. And she was like, you have to take it during this time. And he said, ma'am, you know that I play soccer and I have a game today. I cannot do that.

 

00:40:19:00 - 00:40:38:22

Unknown

And I also have practice at those times, so I can never do that. And she like for probably like I think he was only in it for like not even a month because then he, he basically was like, with all due respect, I'm out. Like I know due respect, I would have said, yeah, oh, I mean, I'm just saying I think he was he was pissed.

 

00:40:38:23 - 00:40:55:10

Unknown

He was like, man, like you're a lawyer. So you know the law and you're breaking the law. And guess what? I'm out. And she got reprimanded. She got in trouble because she was an adjunct professor, and you had to have a certain amount of students in your class. And when he left, it went under. So then she got brought up.

 

00:40:55:11 - 00:41:27:22

Unknown

Ashley was so happy. She was like, this is exactly because again, she was like, no, you cannot take it out of like was not giving him the combinations. And he's like, I this is law. So to your point is that is it happens. But if you have those kind of papers at least, and you have the confidence to be like, and that's the big thing because, well, like it's if you don't stand up for yourself, you're just going to get shit it on and it's going to make you feel worse, and then you're going to beat yourself up like, oh, why didn't I stand up for myself on all of these different things?

 

00:41:27:22 - 00:41:55:17

Unknown

And it can be the circle, even though it's uncomfortable, sometimes a confrontation for two minutes is better than all of the regret in your head after. Oh, amazing. Isn't confrontation fun? Oh, I love coming. I love we're done with. Most people don't want it. Most people don't want confrontation. Except for you. Yeah, I don't mind conversation. If someone deserves confrontation, I'm going to get confront.

 

00:41:55:23 - 00:42:14:19

Unknown

Someone just said to me today, you're very sweet, and a lot of times when people are sweet, they're passive aggressive. I've never met a sweet person that says it how it is and is not passive aggressive. I was like, no, I don't, I don't put up with bullshit. And if someone's doing something that's not right, I'm going and I'll do it very respectfully, like, hey, that's not really right.

 

00:42:14:19 - 00:42:39:07

Unknown

I'm going to point it out. And I know not everyone. I usually yell. Don't do it respectfully, because you don't deserve the respect back because you already did that. You know, it's but you know, it's you know, it comes back to, you know, to confidence, understanding. Right? You can't you can't get all those things without knowing who you are and what what makes you tick.

 

00:42:39:07 - 00:42:43:08

Unknown

And,

 

00:42:43:10 - 00:42:47:13

Unknown

College can be, you know.

 

00:42:47:15 - 00:43:15:16

Unknown

Can be ruthless again. Education. The more self-esteem you can build up and understand where your strengths are and where your weaknesses are and what you enjoy doing and what you don't enjoy doing, and able to navigate through through those things. But earlier the diagnosis and all this whole conversation, the better it is. I'm just going to leave it at that like rate, review and share.

 

00:43:15:16 - 00:43:21:22

Unknown

You don't know who needs to hear this. Thank you for joining another episode of word Blindness. Dyslexia exposed.