S5E8: Exploring AI Tools for Better Learning

Juliet Hahn and Brent discuss how AI tools like ChatGPT and others are transforming education, organization, and learning strategies, especially for students with learning differences. They explore the potential benefits and challenges of AI in academic settings and how to leverage technology for better learning outcomes.

 

Chapters

 

00:00 Introduction to AI in daily life and organization

02:00 Juliet shares how she uses ChatGPT for editing and organization

03:58 The debate over AI in college classrooms and cheating

06:02 Fear and resistance from educators towards AI

07:57 The importance of accommodations for students with learning differences

10:01 Using AI to support students with dyslexia and dysgraphia

11:54 The cyclical nature of educational reform and technology resistance

14:00 The role of teachers and how to adapt to AI advancements

15:56 The potential of AI to teach study skills and improve learning outcomes

17:53 The impact of bans and fear on educational progress

20:03 The evolution of communication tools from radio to AI

22:04 The importance of embracing technology for future generations

23:53 Reflections on technological evolution and societal change

25:56 The importance of early diagnosis and accommodations for learning differences

27:57 The need for a balanced approach to AI in education

29:54 The importance of good teaching and avoiding complacency

31:58 Supporting students with learning differences through technology

34:01 The future of education and the role of AI in lifelong learning

 

Transcript

 

00:00:10:22 - 00:00:35:00

Unknown

I was just having a conversation with someone regarding AI and how in their business how they use it for executive functioning. So they were asking me, like the college kids or how do I use it? And, I don't use it for organization stuff, I probably should. It actually probably would be really beneficial. But the way I organize myself, I feel pretty okay, like my executive functioning is better.

 

00:00:35:02 - 00:01:02:04

Unknown

What do you mean, organize? Use it for organization. So, like, I have people that I know closely that use AI for their calendars for like reports for, especially if they're very heavy into writing, writing stuff that they have to write. So they'll have like, okay, this is or they have to present a lot, they will use it to organize their calendar with AI.

 

00:01:02:06 - 00:01:16:20

Unknown

And so then the calendar will be like, okay, this is this is who you're meeting with. This is the and give. So basically gives them the organization's information. So this is how you should prepare for the meeting etc., etc.. But they're not using it in a cheeky way. Do you know what I mean. It's not like oh right.

 

00:01:16:20 - 00:01:37:18

Unknown

My whole report. Then they're like, okay, now I know I can go. It's almost like a reverse work. You have to write your own report if you want it, right? Yeah. You're not going to slap on the wrist like you are in school. Totally. So. And it's actually really cool. So I probably from like what we talked about in the past, like I, I will use ChatGPT to help me organize.

 

00:01:37:19 - 00:01:56:02

Unknown

Like if I'm like, I have something that I want to write or I have an email, I do it 100%. Every time I send an email, I'm like, just check for spelling. I don't have it change my words unless there's something really grammatically wrong. I say that and my ChatGPT is like, yep, I got it. So we usually just corrects my spelling so I know I copy and paste and put it in.

 

00:01:56:02 - 00:02:09:16

Unknown

And I don't have to stress because every time I would send an email, as we talked about, anytime I would do a post, I literally would send it and be like, oh, I just hope everything was okay. And that and I would literally have the the tense stress in my body of being like, I hope there was no mistakes, right?

 

00:02:09:17 - 00:02:26:08

Unknown

And I used to when I used to do a lot of stuff on social media, every time. And I would always have someone be like, oh, I just want to let you know you spelled this wrong or that's not okay. And I'm like, oh, for fuck's sake. I know that they were doing it in more of a kind way, but this, that's how I use it and I find it very beneficial.

 

00:02:26:10 - 00:02:46:13

Unknown

There are so much stuff out there. I was just talking to someone and they were talking about they in college, they take they used the voice memo. That's not cheating. That's just this is what I used to do. I used to record the class because I would have to listen back because I can't take notes, right? I can't spell, so I can't write, I can't listen to someone.

 

00:02:46:13 - 00:03:07:08

Unknown

And. Right, I'm not listening to them. I can't fucking do that at all. That's just great. So they use an app called notebook LM, so they basically take the the lecture of the class, and then they ask a break down the most important parts and then put it into a podcast. And so they listen to it basically like a podcast.

 

00:03:07:10 - 00:03:40:19

Unknown

Yeah. Didn't we speak to somebody kind of doing that same kind of concept? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And there's so many things out there. So like what? And the reason why I wanted to talk about this because it is I don't want to say my child's university, but it's a technology free zone in a lot of the professor's classes because they're going backwards now because of AI, instead of teaching kids how to use it beneficially, because it is a really good thing that you actually can make it almost where you're learning from it and learning better.

 

00:03:40:19 - 00:04:03:06

Unknown

Because we learn difference, right? So when you have a learning, you're learning different. So if we could use it where it's not doing the papers, it's not cheating. It's not doing that, but it's helping you organize, take the class notes and then be able to say, okay, these are the things that you need to study, and then have the individual be able to study it and digest it the way their brain works, it's going to be so much better.

 

00:04:03:06 - 00:04:25:06

Unknown

But instead we're going backwards. We're taking it all away. Like you just said. Tell about your friend. Yeah. You know, he works at it, works at school, at a high school. And now they've taken away backpacks and cell phones. Obviously, you have to left in your locker, you know. When it comes to school.

 

00:04:25:08 - 00:04:57:18

Unknown

Where knee jerk, jerk reactions, you know, to everything. All right. You know, let's go back the new with the core math or whatever the shit is. You know, two plus two is in four, like, so watch. We're going to make another swing to something else. To go back. None of it's common sense. And my explicit hate for science of reading, because that's only going to be a phase.

 

00:04:57:20 - 00:05:23:12

Unknown

There's it's this way or that way. It's this or this way or that way. That's not how we operate. That's not how life works or operates. So why? Why the hell are we going to why are we going to do that? Like, there's, there's a happy meeting, medium and everything, right? It's just not, you know, Cory, you know where the hell is called, right?

 

00:05:23:12 - 00:05:43:00

Unknown

They went and printed out how many millions of textbooks and how much money this is, and there's going to be the next one which should be coming soon. This is the next best thing. Right? And you know, clearly, if you take a look at the the scores in math and, reading, you know, we're we're not doing very good.

 

00:05:43:02 - 00:06:07:13

Unknown

Right? But it ends up being such a huge, jerk reactions to and it's a jerk reactions to, a lot of his money, you know. And do you think fear though? I think there's a lot of it. Fear based. What do you mean, fear based? Meaning? Like they don't understand and they don't want to understand it because it's scary.

 

00:06:07:13 - 00:06:25:07

Unknown

Because it's new and it can be like, well, what if this, what if this? And so it's like, nope, we're just going to shut it all down. We're not going to even think about it from the school or the school side of it. Yeah. I don't know if, you know, I it could be fair for sure.

 

00:06:25:09 - 00:06:53:06

Unknown

You know, the, the talk about, you know, teachers, being out of less right there, there's so many more teachers that are leaving their position, because, you know, whatever they're whatever they're saying, well, you know, they're just doing whatever to collect that paycheck, right? You know, I don't know. I don't know if it could be fair, you know, fear of losing their position.

 

00:06:53:08 - 00:07:17:19

Unknown

You know, that's never going to happen. No, but I'm thinking like like the upper like the people that the, I guess the school boards, the the administrators like the fact that I, which I just think is so at and I don't know in all the different things, but at a prominent university that it would be like there's no technology allowed.

 

00:07:17:19 - 00:07:36:23

Unknown

Everything's back to pen and paper. No, in the whole school. No. There's only certain classes, there's only certain professors. It's a lot of professors, I think. So I'm not 100% sure I haven't dove into it because I think if I dive into it, I'm going to get real fucking angry. And so I'm just like, this is this is he.

 

00:07:37:01 - 00:08:07:05

Unknown

He will figure this out and he's, you know, talks about his combinations. He's talked to the professors. And I think it's going to be okay. But the fact that those words are even said no technology zone. If a child is undiagnosed dyslexia or undiagnosed any of the five days and they're going and then they go to this class and they didn't have an IEP or a 500 for I don't like what that I mean, to me that's a freaking nightmare.

 

00:08:07:05 - 00:08:23:01

Unknown

So like if I was in I know when I went to college when I was drowning because I couldn't like literally I cannot talk like I can't listen to what someone saying and write it down. So like, I mean, so many people were like, well, can you type it? No, I can't not no, I have to listen to what the words are.

 

00:08:23:02 - 00:08:36:12

Unknown

I can't be trying to spell it and put it on a piece of paper or on a typewriter. I cannot do that. I think it's fascinating when people can do it, really. It's like to me, I'm like, that's so cool. You can hear what I'm saying and typing it at the same time. It's like their brain is just working like, right?

 

00:08:36:12 - 00:09:11:21

Unknown

It's just like ours is like, oh, the should be typing, looking at me and just like, so she can do that. That's like, right. It's fascinating. So that's like where you can talk about an 80 hp dyslexia discovery, all these different things just. Yeah. So I go back to thinking when I went to college and I had to get one of those many little recorders, and it was my dad and my mom that were like, maybe you need to, like, record the lesson and then put like little bullet notes of like, okay, 15 minutes in something important, right?

 

00:09:11:22 - 00:09:28:10

Unknown

Like, you know, I'm listening and I'm like, oh, whatever, or write a word. Right? And then try to put like a timestamp, I mean, whatever. I had to relisten to the whole thing. And. So boring, right? I mean, that's like a really big thing about listening in class. Then I have to go back and then pause and write it down.

 

00:09:28:12 - 00:09:52:07

Unknown

Pause, write it down. I mean, it took a lot of work for me to get through college, a lot of brain work, a lot, a lot of work, which we say to always working so much harder. Right? So if I went to a college that all of a sudden it was like, you can't record, like you can't even bring a, a tape recorder in because it's technology free.

 

00:09:52:09 - 00:10:07:21

Unknown

Like I would be drowning already before I even got a chance. You can put accommodations in. So I want to be clear. They are saying you can put accommodations in and ask. But like, we didn't ask for the note part because I didn't think about that. I was like, wait, can you take notes when someone's talking? And he's like, no.

 

00:10:07:21 - 00:10:25:09

Unknown

And I was like, oh, we'll just record it, like use a Firefly or something like that. Well, which will take it. It's like, you know, the fireflies, if you're on a zoom and someone has that AI kind of, you'll see like a firefly bugs. Yeah, it's like a note taker. Okay. And it's it's not it's not cheating.

 

00:10:25:09 - 00:10:52:15

Unknown

It's basically just listening and taking notes for you. And then you take those notes and you use those notes. You take the transcript, and then you can learn from that. It's it's really great. You cannot do that by colleges. You know, obviously I never went there when he knows I never went there. But from, you know, my own kids and, and some other people that we talk those professors have the biggest fucking egos in the world.

 

00:10:52:17 - 00:11:21:14

Unknown

A lot of them. Yes. I it's my aware that it's illegal. Like I, you know, obviously with my daughter, you know, there was a huge, huge fight because we did have the accommodations. It was part of, you know, part of it. And he was like, absolutely, I won't do it. That's illegal. Right. And, you know, it's I know I'm going to be a, you know, an asshole on this one.

 

00:11:21:14 - 00:11:30:03

Unknown

I would, I, I'd love it to happen. And we bring a lawsuit against.

 

00:11:30:05 - 00:11:55:15

Unknown

You know, I, I know what you're saying, you know, and I say that for. Because if you don't go to the extremes with them, they don't give a shit. Well, again, there's the reason there's accommodations are here. Like, it's my way. No, but there's a reason why we do this. There's a reason why. And, Yeah, yeah. Equaling the playing field.

 

00:11:55:15 - 00:12:25:18

Unknown

It's not like. But I also do understand. Listen, I know that there's kids out there that are using AI to do everything, and they're not learning it. All right. So I understand why they are getting where they are. But like why can't we teach kids how to use it to benefit them instead of going at it like it's just like when and this is going to sound funny, but just like when cable TV came out and all like it's the new thing that you're like, oh, it's going to ruin everyone's brains.

 

00:12:25:19 - 00:12:47:06

Unknown

MTV right? It's going to fuck everyone up, all of these things. And instead of just being like, let's talk on it, let's think of the positive, let's see how we can benefit it instead of being scared of it. Yeah. You know, and I'm going to throw this back at you know, some of the professors and teachers are the most lazy people in the world.

 

00:12:47:08 - 00:12:56:19

Unknown

Your job is to teach the kids how to do these things. Or what about this class is how many of them just hand out notes and homework?

 

00:12:56:21 - 00:13:14:02

Unknown

So it goes, you know, now I'll do this. If they're going to cheat in a you, you're going to if they're going to go and cheat how you know they're not going to cheat if you teach them.

 

00:13:14:04 - 00:13:18:14

Unknown

If you go and have a good give her a good teacher.

 

00:13:18:16 - 00:13:41:20

Unknown

They're not going to cheat because you're teaching them. And that's your job. Like you're getting paid stupid amount of money from these professors to teach. So like I think it's more worried about you know the scared portion is that they know more than you know. They're supposed to know because they're doing the research. They like that class.

 

00:13:41:20 - 00:14:06:04

Unknown

They want to be a professor. That and you just do the same thing over and over again. They want their, you know, so if you're a teacher, back to your scare point. If you're a good teacher, you teach just like, you know, I had a conversation with, hockey coach last week. I said, I don't I don't like the word coach.

 

00:14:06:06 - 00:14:26:19

Unknown

I don't like I don't go in, coach. I like to teach. So if you're a teacher but your professor is a teacher, why don't you teach? I know you had this problem last year, in the high school, right? That teacher wouldn't teach Penelope.

 

00:14:26:21 - 00:14:37:13

Unknown

Yeah. Penelope's fault. Right. You're a teacher. And as a and as a coach, as a hockey. I've got to know how all my.

 

00:14:37:15 - 00:15:08:06

Unknown

Players learn to get the most out of them is I'm not what a teacher is supposed to do to. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's definitely an interesting where we are and it's like it's, it's always just funny to think. I mean this is the thing everything has to, everything goes and it gets like so blown up and then it gets turned down and we're back to where we are like we're in.

 

00:15:08:11 - 00:15:31:02

Unknown

Everything's a cycle. But it's just like repeating itself. Like, when are we going to learn to stop doing that? It's like, hey, we're going here. Oh, look, this is where we are again. Oh, look, now it's this generation. Oh, look, it's this generation. It's repeating all the time. Let's step out of it. Let's figure out where, like, we can use some of the stuff instead of being scared of it and say, okay, how can I actually make my class stronger?

 

00:15:31:04 - 00:15:46:02

Unknown

Give the students even more things to like. The. One of the things that I love about ChatGPT it makes me think about things like if I'm like, okay, I want to write this and I give the whole thing, it will ask me and this is just mine. I go ask me a question like, have you thought about X, Y, and Z?

 

00:15:46:02 - 00:16:17:21

Unknown

And I'm like, oh, and then he brings me this even more clarity or something. And it's like a very cool thing. Yeah, I boyfriend I don't know. Okay. Because we heard a vote on podcast about AI girlfriends. I'm like, what the. Yeah, yeah, there's movies there. I forget the movie. Megan I think it's going back. It's crazy, but these cycles, you know, and then we're going to go back to, you know, 25 years ago and we're going to start all this over again.

 

00:16:17:23 - 00:16:20:11

Unknown

00:16:20:12 - 00:16:47:06

Unknown

And it's why do we keep doing that? Yeah, it's it's really interesting and I, I can I mean, I can see it the fact that they're going technology free for some classes, I'm like, whoa. And pen and paper now, you know, you know, as we started talking about, more to what you said, are afraid. They're afraid of their jobs.

 

00:16:47:08 - 00:16:58:22

Unknown

I wasn't thinking of that. But yeah, I'm right now, you know, as we started talking through this more, they're afraid of their positions, their, you know, and.

 

00:16:59:00 - 00:17:19:13

Unknown

Obviously I'm always negative on on teachers and professors. But until you can prove me wrong, right. And show me, you know, how many, how many hundreds of thousands of people we talked to and how many of them have said, we've got a good teacher?

 

00:17:19:15 - 00:17:49:07

Unknown

Right. It's it's yeah, maybe we could count on one hand. And, you know, we've been we've been together during this podcast for, you know, a third year now. No we're not what year we I don't even know 2000. We started March 2023. Yeah. So we're three and a half, three hours. And I think I could count probably maybe on on one hand how many good teachers that parents have said they had this year.

 

00:17:49:09 - 00:18:09:13

Unknown

Right, right. I will yes, and I agree with you. But I also do know that we don't always talk about the good ones. There's not a lot of them to talk about. I know, that's what I was just saying. All five. You guys are amazing. We love. You know, I hear what you're saying. However, this is where I'm going to challenge and not challenge.

 

00:18:09:13 - 00:18:25:15

Unknown

But there's a lot of times that good things are happening. Like, I've, there's like three professors that Montgomery like, really likes, and I never talk about them. I talk about the ones that he doesn't write and but that's on here because that's what we're doing. We're talking about how we can make change. So but I know what you're saying.

 

00:18:25:16 - 00:18:46:16

Unknown

And I but I had to throw that in there. But you know, there are some good ones I never not saying not, but yeah, you know, most of the parents that we talked to saying they're not they're not teaching. They're supposed to be teachers. You know, how much homework is coming home and. Oh, no. Just go and learn it, you know, go and learn how to do this yourself.

 

00:18:46:18 - 00:19:10:12

Unknown

Why are you getting paid? If we did that in our job, we wouldn't, you know, we wouldn't be here. So it's it's a little skewed. Obviously we're hard on on, you know, on, on teachers or on on professors, but I think for, for good cause. Well, there is I mean, because there's one there's this is the other thing that I was thinking about.

 

00:19:10:13 - 00:19:37:12

Unknown

Okay. So if we were in this district since my kids were in kindergarten, this district is a technology district. So like, kids in kindergarten get brand new iPads. We get new MacBooks all the way through. So like, say, and I know that they work on handwriting, but it's definitely not where you're doing a lot of handwriting. Right? So now then you go to university and now you're having to do handwriting all the time.

 

00:19:37:13 - 00:19:56:08

Unknown

Like, again, I'm nobody knows the order. They say this generation, they don't know how to read handwriting. Right. Because it's all type. I mean, so that's the thing. Like so we're extreme in all in all cases. So I'm not saying like when we moved here I was like, oh, this is great. This is actually great for Montgomery. Like we don't everyone will have a laptop.

 

00:19:56:08 - 00:20:13:11

Unknown

So he's not going to feel like the one kid because in Connecticut I was the same thing. She was, you know, she's the only one. And she she fought us for for years because she was the only one with, you know, with in going in her class. And she's like, I'm not going to be the only you know, in her.

 

00:20:13:12 - 00:20:20:06

Unknown

Hunter was like Montgomery. So she's like, once he did get it,

 

00:20:20:08 - 00:20:51:14

Unknown

She, she should go get great. Everybody else is. I'm not sticking out like a sore thumb. Right. Totally. So, you know, again, it's the extremes. That's what I think we're, like really focusing. Like, now I am all or nothing too, so I understand I do things extreme too. But I do think in this there is with executive functioning and all of these things, there's really beneficial things with AI that could actually teach kids some really good study skills, that could do a lot of things that will be interesting.

 

00:20:51:14 - 00:21:14:06

Unknown

So this individual that I spoke to has like so many different tricks because he's getting his doctorate. And I was like, I definitely want to talk to you more about it because I'm just curious. I know I could be using AI, like talking to, family members of mine that use AI really, really impressive. In their office. They're like, I'm getting, you know, work done for five employees.

 

00:21:14:06 - 00:21:32:07

Unknown

Now, there are also managers, whatever. And they're like, it's incredible. And I'm like, okay, I, I use it, but I don't I also don't want like everything attached to like my bank account and my calendar. I get a little paranoid. I will be honest. I don't want it all fucking mixed in. All my shit. I don't want to much.

 

00:21:32:10 - 00:21:47:06

Unknown

I like to be like, okay, I'm just going to keep it here. But I do use it to really help streamline my thoughts and what I'm saying. It doesn't right for me, but it is. And it's been it made me a better writer because I know what I want to say, but I can't fricking say it when I'm writing it.

 

00:21:47:09 - 00:22:11:03

Unknown

So I'm able to speak it, and I love it for that. Well, you know, and I always refer back to the movie blindside, you know, right when he's walking down the hallway and she's giving the test questions and she, she walks into the teachers lunchroom, whatever. He understands, he's not stupid or I think I said he's not dumb.

 

00:22:11:05 - 00:22:20:16

Unknown

He understands, you know, because you verbally get you. You gave the test, right? So,

 

00:22:20:18 - 00:22:50:16

Unknown

Voice the text there, there. There's things that that can can work, but they're obviously not opening and open minded. You know, a lot of times they're not willing to to listen. And a lot of times our, our asks our so different than what is on the normal way of doing it. They're like, why would we do that? They can't, you know, they can't have the understanding.

 

00:22:50:16 - 00:23:15:05

Unknown

And that's kind of what we always talk. Being misunderstood is, is the hardest thing ever. And, if they just be open up a little bit more and the extremes would not be so much so extreme, you know, the fact that they didn't see a lot of this stuff coming. Hey, is yo a little scary in itself? Yeah.

 

00:23:15:07 - 00:23:34:11

Unknown

And there's so much it is very interesting. But I think for us as a society, but also us as dyslexics, like using things that can enhance there is like so much, but there's also so much unknown around it. I mean, I've said to you how many times like, oh, I really think you should download this to use this.

 

00:23:34:11 - 00:23:42:01

Unknown

And you're like, fuck off. I know you don't say, oh, but you're just like, no, I do, let me tell you.

 

00:23:42:03 - 00:23:52:22

Unknown

But I'm on my face. I can tell by your face extreme of when you know when when it comes to you comes to this. Because for me, now it's.

 

00:23:53:00 - 00:24:25:17

Unknown

I got to figure out how to use something else. I know, that's why. Am I going to fail at this thing? Yeah. So I'm a bad example of this. Oh, thank you for that. But, you know, the younger generation, it's easier for them, like, you know, technology lived on it. The understanding it's, you know, even with the Gen Z or whatever, the you know, they they all understand that I heard it, I just that's a year before you were born, before 1992.

 

00:24:25:18 - 00:24:55:13

Unknown

You were born before the first text message, which is so crazy. It's it's really crazy to think about how much we've evolved in a span. Like what I remember Dan and I were talking about. So he's 50, I don't know, so terrible. 55 or 56, he would die. He was born in 1976. All right. 56. Right. 56.

 

00:24:55:13 - 00:25:15:03

Unknown

He just turned 56. Seven years older, I am. Yeah, I know, I was like, when did you get over like 55? Whatever. But when he started, he, he can move into any, you know, seniors community. Oh by the way you get that at 50. So just wait for a couple months and then all of a sudden you start getting the mail, like when I turned 50 and I was like, motherfucker, I got a seat cushion.

 

00:25:15:03 - 00:25:38:19

Unknown

I don't want the seat cushion. Fuck off. I'm 50. I'm like, so young, so whatever. But we were talking about cable. And when he when he was in, he was an advertising when it was just the networks, ABC, NBC, CBS. So that's what he's done his whole life, right? Yeah. So I was like, you need to, like, write a book or something, like, it's so cool.

 

00:25:38:20 - 00:26:12:17

Unknown

Like the guys that you have worked with, you started for a good chunk of your years in traditional advertising, like Mad Men, like, you know, they shook on a handshake on the golf course and they were, you know, millions. I mean, really cool, really fun, like the agency. And he started on the agency side. The trips that that my husband has gone on are like in sane because the advertisers would take, you know, the they, they basically would take or the salespeople would take the, the advertising agencies, the one that spent the money.

 

00:26:12:20 - 00:26:50:09

Unknown

Then he switched to sales. But that's when, cable just came out. So he was worked at Discovery Channel. Then he also was the like the inception of the.com. Like I remember working, I actually had a sales job on a.com. One of the first ones, it was called Talk City and it was a community. And that was the first where you at the banner or sold like we have been through all of that and now like then where he is now, I mean it's really, really interesting and how everyone's bought each other up and it's like this, you know, conglomerate after conglomerate and like the amount of jobs is now like, I mean, like it's

 

00:26:50:13 - 00:27:16:08

Unknown

there's so many people out of work in advertising, especially in their in their 50s. Like it is like 15 above. It's like it finds another thing. But to think about it before cell phones, like where we are as a generation like us is really kind of cool to really think about that. Right? We had the the antenna, like, you know, you're moving around like trying to get better reception.

 

00:27:16:11 - 00:27:38:22

Unknown

The bunny ears. Yeah. You know, you got on like the cable box where you can get the two different things. And then you saw, like, the naughtiness, you know? Oh, yeah. Hotels all over that socially. But it's like a really interesting thing, even, like, I was talking to Montgomery about who's 21, and he's even like, mom, think about like, they didn't have smartphones when he was let on.

 

00:27:38:22 - 00:28:02:12

Unknown

Like, thank God that, you know, like I'm so not thank God. But like fortunate. They just had we had flip phones. Right. You didn't do anything with that stuff. Social media just started. But it is really interesting if you sit down and think what we have been a part of and where we're going. And so it is like, okay, things are moving fast, how can we though benefit and not be scared of it?

 

00:28:02:13 - 00:28:41:01

Unknown

Like not be scared like let's use it to for good. And the sad part about that, you know, you know, connecting to to the five days that nobody knew what the five days were before 1992 and. Right. And nobody knows what the five days are here in 2026. Right. They I'd love to say that. So you know there's a lot of the world's evolved and you know certain things and technology and you know medical and x, Y and Z and all this.

 

00:28:41:03 - 00:29:04:04

Unknown

And it's sad that I can't say the same thing for you know, for the dyslexic world. No. Or education like look at education. It's the same as like from the 1919. It's the same. It's, it's it's so like things are evolving, but they stay in the same stupid spot with the same books that I read when I literally my kids are like, this is what we're reading in English.

 

00:29:04:04 - 00:29:34:18

Unknown

And I was like, what? What? Same, same people. It's the same type of people, same running. It's, you know, talk about here. You know, obviously Chicago, the head of the teachers, you know, the teachers union, they're all connected, kids, you know, go to privates like it's it's now become again a job for them. And I think I mentioned it was last night, you know, a friend's daughter, 26 year old.

 

00:29:34:20 - 00:29:58:06

Unknown

She just got tenured as a teacher. What is she proven right. You know, I think you don't graduate to be a teacher until, you know, what, 22, 23. So she's only done it for 2 or 3, you know, maybe four years. And you're giving her tenure now? She's set for life. Yeah. Like how if she likes that for.

 

00:29:58:08 - 00:30:19:15

Unknown

That's the thing. Like, if I like if you're miserable but you're like, oh whatever. But yes. Right. But that's. Yeah I remember so you know, so that's, that's all she, she talked about. I'll be that's all she talked about. Then she's like, yeah, then I don't have to work like again, that's one person. But that's that's more than not now.

 

00:30:19:20 - 00:30:48:21

Unknown

Now they're set the set for life. And at the end of the day, who suffers? You know, the kids. And we wonder why we are where we are. And, superintendents and principals and, you know, all these kind of things, they, they care about keeping keeping their jobs and whatever. That's why, you know, these circles are so, drastic is okay, what do we need to do to keep where we are and keep things going?

 

00:30:48:22 - 00:31:04:22

Unknown

And let's go back to the old system where we were 30 years ago, where it was easier. And you have to worry about AI. You know, it's, you know, it's crazy. It is. But we, we, we I mean we say it all the time, we have to be better. The poor kid in the chair as you said like, I mean we've known about it.

 

00:31:04:23 - 00:31:24:05

Unknown

It's like the studies. Let's do more studies and see how the brain works. Oh look at this. We know this. I don't give a fuck, but we're still, like, teaching the same thing. And then it's. Yeah. And it's it's what is that? The saying the other day, I was I'm terrible with sayings, but we all talked about right to sexy.

 

00:31:24:08 - 00:31:40:18

Unknown

You can't. But it's like, what is the. There's something that's like, you keep doing it and it's a form of torture or something, you know that that's saying, yeah, well, you keep doing the same thing, you know, same thing over and over again and getting the same results, you know. What's that insanity. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah, yeah.

 

00:31:40:21 - 00:32:06:11

Unknown

And it's, it's I mean, it's it's shocking, but it's not shocking. And you're still like, what what what. Yeah. It's so we just as school starts this by this time this out this will be out probably will be three weeks in. But it's like breathing. It's like okay. I mean, Pip's decided to take six AP classes this year.

 

00:32:06:12 - 00:32:24:10

Unknown

She did. But she was actually like, mom, I don't want that. I'm not going to even get into it. But her logic was actually really good. And she's like, these are the classes that I sell in, and if I can excel on them and I like the body of the class, like the the conversations, it's not like kids fucking around.

 

00:32:24:10 - 00:32:43:12

Unknown

It's like kids that want to learn. I want to be I'm like, no, no, did I won't challenge you. But like, if you find that you're doing more work than you should, please, let's talk about it. So like, let's think about this. And we already like the first two months I think she's missing like five days. And I'm like, oh, all right, all right.

 

00:32:43:12 - 00:33:02:06

Unknown

Well let's be clear. Doesn't matter what classes you know she's in, she's going to be missed. And you know, that's that's just where is where we have. Yeah. She's like mom I'm fine. But I love though I love that. Like I said to her, the day that you're like, no, I can't miss is the day that I'm like, you are not taking any of those classes.

 

00:33:02:06 - 00:33:18:21

Unknown

She's like, I promise I won't do that. I was like, yeah, you gotta take it like she's like a it's not the schema world. It's not that big of a deal. And I'm like, and I love that word there. Because we have we always haven't been but. Right. Yeah. It's, it's one of those things. Do you have anything else that you want to add?

 

00:33:18:22 - 00:33:44:08

Unknown

Are you done? I could add forever, but we're good. Okay. 33 minutes. Yeah. Don't forget to, like, rate review and share. Share. Because you again, some people don't realize that universities are now going to this technology free before your kids are applying. Seniors if they're if you don't have a combination and you know your kids are going to need it, this is the time to be getting tested and getting on that.

 

00:33:44:09 - 00:34:11:10

Unknown

Well, on this, this, you know, to finish up. And this goes back to why we talk over and over again about getting a neural psych, about getting that diagnosis. But understanding what that is and finding out that roadmap is, you know, early obviously makes, school in a whole earlier. But, you know, look at colleges, you know, it's just to, to your point of, of why.

 

00:34:11:12 - 00:34:34:08

Unknown

And it's, it's not just like a rinky dink school. It is a good, really good school. This is if it's happening at this school, it's happening all over. It's happening all over. And then, you know, obviously we can go to now rabbit all but the cost. Right. So, you know, it is absolutely insane with the cost is we but you know got your you get your kid tested.

 

00:34:34:10 - 00:34:53:00

Unknown

You know you can bets return on your investment might be a lot better because they they're going to be able to handle that. They're going to be able to, actually go to class and execute the class. They're going to be able to learn because most of us don't learn, get so much work to do. We don't retain anything.

 

00:34:53:00 - 00:35:21:12

Unknown

We're not learning anything. We're just working so hard just to get it done and get that test in that that assignment in that's a in whatever it is. You know, we didn't learn shit. So if you have these accommodations, they're going to learn, they're going to do better. They're going to enjoy it. And then, you know, the chance of them staying in that field where their degree is, is a lot higher because they're not hating what they just did for, you know, whatever that term.

 

00:35:21:13 - 00:35:24:10

Unknown

Yep. Like rate review and chair.