Episode 158: Abbe Greenberg and Maggie Sarachek | Anxiety Sisters

Jun 20, 2022

Remarkable Quote:

 

Anxiety is a human emotion. We've all experienced anxiety. What makes it something that needs to be paid attention to is when the anxiety starts to make the decision for you, starts to shrink your world.” ~ Abbe Greenberg

 

When we talk and share stories with each other, we could be each other's touchstone. One of the most hopeful and healing things is to know that we're not alone and that someone gets us.” ~ Maggie Sarachek

 


Guest Bio:

 

Abbe Greenberg, MCIS, and Maggie Sarachek, MSW are trained counselors, mental health advocates, researchers, educators, writers, and long-time anxiety sufferers. In 2017, they launched their online community which now includes more than 215,000 people in 200+ countries and territories. Together the Anxiety Sisters write an award-winning blog and host a twice-monthly podcast, The Spin Cycle. Having learned to live happily with anxiety, they spend their time coaching anxiety sufferers and conducting workshops and retreats all over the U.S. Their book, The Anxiety Sisters’ Survival Guide was released by Penguin Random House in September of 2021.

 

Learn more about them at AnxietySisters.com and give them a follow on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Pinterest, and LinkedIn.


 


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Episode Transcript

 

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[maggie]: publicist

 

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[juliet_hahn]: you're right that's why your public

 

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[abbe_greenberg]: oh

 

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[maggie]: you're

 

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[juliet_hahn]: is

 

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[maggie]: right

 

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[juliet_hahn]: reached out to me yes

 

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[maggie]: let's just reached out to yes

 

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[juliet_hahn]: so it's it's funny because i'm like

 

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[maggie]: so

 

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[juliet_hahn]: wait

 

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[maggie]: it's

 

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[juliet_hahn]: i

 

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[maggie]: it's

 

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[juliet_hahn]: don't

 

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[maggie]: funny

 

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[juliet_hahn]: think

 

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[maggie]: because

 

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[juliet_hahn]: it was

 

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[maggie]: i'm like

 

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[juliet_hahn]: linked

 

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[maggie]: wait

 

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[juliet_hahn]: in because

 

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[maggie]: i don't

 

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[juliet_hahn]: now i'm

 

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[maggie]: think

 

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[juliet_hahn]: like

 

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[maggie]: it

 

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[juliet_hahn]: like

 

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[maggie]: was linked

 

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[juliet_hahn]: i always

 

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[maggie]: in

 

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[juliet_hahn]: can

 

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[maggie]: because

 

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[juliet_hahn]: kind of

 

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[maggie]: now

 

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[juliet_hahn]: go

 

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[maggie]: i'm

 

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[juliet_hahn]: back

 

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[maggie]: like like

 

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[juliet_hahn]: and

 

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[maggie]: i

 

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[juliet_hahn]: think

 

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[maggie]: always

 

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[juliet_hahn]: and

 

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[maggie]: can

 

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[juliet_hahn]: then

 

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[maggie]: kind of

 

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[juliet_hahn]: it was

 

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[maggie]: go

 

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[juliet_hahn]: like

 

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[maggie]: back

 

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[juliet_hahn]: yes

 

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[maggie]: and

 

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[juliet_hahn]: so your

 

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[maggie]: think

 

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[juliet_hahn]: public

 

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[maggie]: and then

 

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[juliet_hahn]: is

 

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[maggie]: it

 

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[juliet_hahn]: reached

 

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[maggie]: was

 

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[juliet_hahn]: out

 

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[maggie]: yes

 

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[juliet_hahn]: to me

 

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[maggie]: your

 

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[juliet_hahn]: which

 

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[maggie]: publicist

 

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[juliet_hahn]: i love

 

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[maggie]: reached out

 

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[juliet_hahn]: i've

 

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[maggie]: to

 

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[juliet_hahn]: been

 

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[maggie]: me which

 

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[juliet_hahn]: getting

 

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[maggie]: i

 

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[juliet_hahn]: those

 

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[maggie]: love

 

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[juliet_hahn]: lately and getting

 

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[maggie]: i been

 

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[juliet_hahn]: some

 

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[maggie]: getting

 

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[juliet_hahn]: really

 

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[maggie]: those

 

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[juliet_hahn]: really

 

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[maggie]: lately

 

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[juliet_hahn]: good

 

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[maggie]: and getting some really

 

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[juliet_hahn]: stories

 

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[maggie]: really good

 

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[juliet_hahn]: but when you and

 

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[maggie]: stories

 

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[juliet_hahn]: i

 

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[maggie]: but

 

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[juliet_hahn]: the

 

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[maggie]: when

 

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[juliet_hahn]: three

 

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[maggie]: you and

 

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[juliet_hahn]: of us

 

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[maggie]: i

 

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[juliet_hahn]: actually jumped

 

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[maggie]: three

 

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[juliet_hahn]: on

 

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[maggie]: of

 

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[juliet_hahn]: because

 

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[maggie]: us actually

 

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[juliet_hahn]: what i usually

 

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[maggie]: jumped

 

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[juliet_hahn]: do is you

 

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[maggie]: on

 

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[juliet_hahn]: know

 

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[maggie]: because

 

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[juliet_hahn]: if a publicist

 

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[maggie]: what i usually

 

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[juliet_hahn]: or

 

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[maggie]: do

 

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[juliet_hahn]: someone

 

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[maggie]: is you

 

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[juliet_hahn]: reaches

 

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[maggie]: know

 

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[juliet_hahn]: out

 

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[maggie]: publishers

 

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[juliet_hahn]: to me just so

 

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[maggie]: or someone

 

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[juliet_hahn]: my

 

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[maggie]: read

 

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[juliet_hahn]: guests

 

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[maggie]: a

 

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[juliet_hahn]: can

 

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[maggie]: t

 

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[juliet_hahn]: kind

 

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[maggie]: to me

 

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[juliet_hahn]: of

 

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[maggie]: just

 

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[juliet_hahn]: under

 

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[maggie]: so my

 

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[juliet_hahn]: and

 

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[maggie]: guest can kind

 

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[juliet_hahn]: the

 

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[maggie]: of

 

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[juliet_hahn]: whole

 

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[maggie]: understand

 

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[juliet_hahn]: betting process i just

 

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[maggie]: the

 

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[juliet_hahn]: don't

 

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[maggie]: whole

 

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[juliet_hahn]: say

 

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[maggie]: betting

 

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[juliet_hahn]: yes

 

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[maggie]: process

 

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[juliet_hahn]: because i don't

 

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[maggie]: i

 

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[juliet_hahn]: know

 

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[maggie]: just don't

 

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[juliet_hahn]: right

 

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[maggie]: say

 

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[juliet_hahn]: i could

 

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[maggie]: yes

 

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[juliet_hahn]: look

 

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[maggie]: because

 

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[juliet_hahn]: up

 

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[maggie]: i don't know

 

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[juliet_hahn]: and be

 

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[maggie]: it

 

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[juliet_hahn]: like

 

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[maggie]: i could

 

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[juliet_hahn]: okay

 

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[maggie]: look

 

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[juliet_hahn]: they seem

 

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[maggie]: up

 

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[juliet_hahn]: good but

 

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[maggie]: and

 

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[juliet_hahn]: i need

 

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[maggie]: be like

 

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[juliet_hahn]: to

 

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[maggie]: okay they seem

 

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[juliet_hahn]: we need

 

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[maggie]: good

 

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[juliet_hahn]: to

 

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[maggie]: but

 

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[juliet_hahn]: see

 

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[maggie]: i

 

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[juliet_hahn]: if

 

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[maggie]: need

 

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[juliet_hahn]: our

 

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[maggie]: to

 

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[juliet_hahn]: energies

 

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[maggie]: we

 

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[juliet_hahn]: match

 

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[maggie]: need to see

 

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[juliet_hahn]: and what

 

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[maggie]: if our

 

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[juliet_hahn]: we could

 

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[maggie]: energies

 

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[juliet_hahn]: have talked

 

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[maggie]: match

 

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[juliet_hahn]: like for

 

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[maggie]: and what

 

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[juliet_hahn]: hours

 

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[maggie]: we could have talked

 

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[juliet_hahn]: right

 

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[maggie]: like for

 

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[abbe_greenberg]: we did

 

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[maggie]: yes

 

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[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

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[abbe_greenberg]: we talked

 

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[maggie]: definitely

 

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[abbe_greenberg]: for a really long time

 

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[maggie]: definitely

 

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[abbe_greenberg]: yeah

 

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[juliet_hahn]: we actually did i think

 

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[maggie]: we

 

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[juliet_hahn]: it

 

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[maggie]: actually

 

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[juliet_hahn]: was like oh my

 

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[maggie]: did

 

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[juliet_hahn]: gosh we got to

 

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[maggie]: i

 

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[juliet_hahn]: go

 

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[maggie]: think it was

 

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[juliet_hahn]: because

 

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[maggie]: like oh my gosh we're

 

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[juliet_hahn]: you

 

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[maggie]: got to

 

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[juliet_hahn]: pen

 

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[maggie]: go because

 

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[juliet_hahn]: is right kind

 

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[maggie]: you

 

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[juliet_hahn]: of

 

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[maggie]: pen

 

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[juliet_hahn]: in the neck of

 

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[maggie]: is

 

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[juliet_hahn]: the woods

 

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[maggie]: right

 

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[juliet_hahn]: where

 

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[maggie]: kind

 

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[juliet_hahn]: i

 

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[maggie]: of

 

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[juliet_hahn]: grew

 

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[maggie]: in the

 

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[juliet_hahn]: up

 

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[maggie]: neck of the woods

 

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[juliet_hahn]: in

 

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[maggie]: where

 

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[juliet_hahn]: jersey

 

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[maggie]: i grew

 

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[juliet_hahn]: and

 

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[maggie]: up

 

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[juliet_hahn]: then

 

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[maggie]: and

 

490

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[juliet_hahn]: you guys

 

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[maggie]: endure

 

492

00:01:55,125 --> 00:01:55,285

[juliet_hahn]: were

 

493

00:01:55,699 --> 00:01:55,939

[maggie]: and then

 

494

00:01:55,886 --> 00:01:55,926

[juliet_hahn]: it

 

495

00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:56,100

[maggie]: you

 

496

00:01:56,026 --> 00:01:56,166

[juliet_hahn]: just

 

497

00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:56,520

[maggie]: guys were

 

498

00:01:56,607 --> 00:01:57,168

[juliet_hahn]: became this whole

 

499

00:01:57,121 --> 00:01:57,181

[maggie]: it

 

500

00:01:57,228 --> 00:01:57,368

[juliet_hahn]: for

 

501

00:01:57,262 --> 00:01:57,402

[maggie]: just

 

502

00:01:57,609 --> 00:01:57,909

[juliet_hahn]: false

 

503

00:01:57,843 --> 00:01:58,083

[maggie]: became

 

504

00:01:58,110 --> 00:01:58,270

[juliet_hahn]: cool

 

505

00:01:58,123 --> 00:01:58,383

[maggie]: the whole

 

506

00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:58,991

[juliet_hahn]: conversation

 

507

00:01:58,484 --> 00:01:59,065

[maggie]: for full

 

508

00:01:59,091 --> 00:01:59,171

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

509

00:01:59,185 --> 00:01:59,485

[maggie]: circle

 

510

00:01:59,212 --> 00:01:59,712

[juliet_hahn]: it was really

 

511

00:01:59,565 --> 00:02:00,227

[maggie]: conversation

 

512

00:02:00,093 --> 00:02:00,674

[juliet_hahn]: really amazing

 

513

00:02:00,347 --> 00:02:00,948

[maggie]: and it was really

 

514

00:02:01,035 --> 00:02:01,155

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

515

00:02:01,348 --> 00:02:01,929

[maggie]: really amazing

 

516

00:02:01,596 --> 00:02:02,637

[juliet_hahn]: what i do on this podcast

 

517

00:02:02,290 --> 00:02:02,971

[maggie]: so what

 

518

00:02:02,938 --> 00:02:03,058

[juliet_hahn]: all

 

519

00:02:03,031 --> 00:02:03,071

[maggie]: i

 

520

00:02:03,118 --> 00:02:03,198

[juliet_hahn]: the

 

521

00:02:03,151 --> 00:02:03,232

[maggie]: do

 

522

00:02:03,238 --> 00:02:03,439

[juliet_hahn]: time

 

523

00:02:03,312 --> 00:02:03,893

[maggie]: on this podcast

 

524

00:02:03,619 --> 00:02:04,180

[juliet_hahn]: is i want you

 

525

00:02:04,213 --> 00:02:04,313

[maggie]: all

 

526

00:02:04,220 --> 00:02:04,380

[juliet_hahn]: guys

 

527

00:02:04,373 --> 00:02:04,454

[maggie]: the

 

528

00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:04,520

[juliet_hahn]: to

 

529

00:02:04,494 --> 00:02:04,694

[maggie]: time

 

530

00:02:04,601 --> 00:02:04,701

[juliet_hahn]: go

 

531

00:02:04,874 --> 00:02:04,974

[maggie]: is

 

532

00:02:05,021 --> 00:02:05,302

[juliet_hahn]: back

 

533

00:02:05,095 --> 00:02:05,636

[maggie]: i want you guys

 

534

00:02:05,522 --> 00:02:05,622

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

535

00:02:05,696 --> 00:02:05,936

[maggie]: to go

 

536

00:02:06,203 --> 00:02:06,404

[juliet_hahn]: each

 

537

00:02:06,297 --> 00:02:06,557

[maggie]: back

 

538

00:02:06,564 --> 00:02:06,844

[juliet_hahn]: of you

 

539

00:02:06,777 --> 00:02:06,878

[maggie]: so

 

540

00:02:07,305 --> 00:02:07,405

[juliet_hahn]: can

 

541

00:02:07,459 --> 00:02:07,619

[maggie]: each

 

542

00:02:07,465 --> 00:02:07,866

[juliet_hahn]: kind of give

 

543

00:02:07,799 --> 00:02:07,859

[maggie]: of

 

544

00:02:07,906 --> 00:02:07,926

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

545

00:02:07,959 --> 00:02:08,080

[maggie]: you

 

546

00:02:08,066 --> 00:02:08,647

[juliet_hahn]: little bit

 

547

00:02:08,540 --> 00:02:08,841

[maggie]: can kind

 

548

00:02:08,868 --> 00:02:08,948

[juliet_hahn]: of

 

549

00:02:08,881 --> 00:02:09,081

[maggie]: of give

 

550

00:02:09,048 --> 00:02:09,429

[juliet_hahn]: history

 

551

00:02:09,141 --> 00:02:09,622

[maggie]: a little

 

552

00:02:09,589 --> 00:02:09,649

[juliet_hahn]: of

 

553

00:02:09,702 --> 00:02:09,883

[maggie]: bit

 

554

00:02:09,809 --> 00:02:10,130

[juliet_hahn]: where you

 

555

00:02:10,103 --> 00:02:10,183

[maggie]: of

 

556

00:02:10,170 --> 00:02:10,310

[juliet_hahn]: grew

 

557

00:02:10,283 --> 00:02:10,664

[maggie]: history

 

558

00:02:10,430 --> 00:02:10,530

[juliet_hahn]: up

 

559

00:02:10,844 --> 00:02:10,924

[maggie]: of

 

560

00:02:10,911 --> 00:02:11,091

[juliet_hahn]: you know

 

561

00:02:11,065 --> 00:02:11,245

[maggie]: where

 

562

00:02:11,151 --> 00:02:11,412

[juliet_hahn]: we already

 

563

00:02:11,285 --> 00:02:11,365

[maggie]: you

 

564

00:02:11,432 --> 00:02:11,552

[juliet_hahn]: told

 

565

00:02:11,445 --> 00:02:11,585

[maggie]: grew

 

566

00:02:11,572 --> 00:02:11,752

[juliet_hahn]: them when

 

567

00:02:11,706 --> 00:02:11,786

[maggie]: up

 

568

00:02:11,833 --> 00:02:12,113

[juliet_hahn]: you went to

 

569

00:02:12,186 --> 00:02:12,247

[maggie]: you

 

570

00:02:12,193 --> 00:02:12,674

[juliet_hahn]: university

 

571

00:02:12,287 --> 00:02:13,028

[maggie]: know we already told them when

 

572

00:02:13,035 --> 00:02:13,135

[juliet_hahn]: but

 

573

00:02:13,088 --> 00:02:13,288

[maggie]: you went

 

574

00:02:13,195 --> 00:02:13,375

[juliet_hahn]: then

 

575

00:02:13,308 --> 00:02:13,929

[maggie]: to university

 

576

00:02:13,515 --> 00:02:14,317

[juliet_hahn]: i know you know

 

577

00:02:14,290 --> 00:02:14,410

[maggie]: but

 

578

00:02:14,417 --> 00:02:14,717

[juliet_hahn]: obviously

 

579

00:02:14,450 --> 00:02:14,791

[maggie]: then i

 

580

00:02:14,777 --> 00:02:14,838

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

581

00:02:14,871 --> 00:02:15,011

[maggie]: know

 

582

00:02:14,898 --> 00:02:15,378

[juliet_hahn]: guys met

 

583

00:02:15,352 --> 00:02:15,973

[maggie]: you now obviously

 

584

00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:15,959

[juliet_hahn]: at

 

585

00:02:16,033 --> 00:02:16,313

[maggie]: you guys

 

586

00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:16,380

[juliet_hahn]: pen

 

587

00:02:16,454 --> 00:02:16,634

[maggie]: met

 

588

00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,141

[juliet_hahn]: and then that

 

589

00:02:17,175 --> 00:02:17,215

[maggie]: at

 

590

00:02:17,202 --> 00:02:17,522

[juliet_hahn]: is where

 

591

00:02:17,455 --> 00:02:17,636

[maggie]: pen

 

592

00:02:17,642 --> 00:02:17,762

[juliet_hahn]: kind

 

593

00:02:17,736 --> 00:02:17,816

[maggie]: and

 

594

00:02:17,823 --> 00:02:17,883

[juliet_hahn]: of

 

595

00:02:17,856 --> 00:02:17,996

[maggie]: then

 

596

00:02:18,043 --> 00:02:18,624

[juliet_hahn]: the anxiety

 

597

00:02:18,217 --> 00:02:18,777

[maggie]: that is where

 

598

00:02:18,704 --> 00:02:19,105

[juliet_hahn]: sisters

 

599

00:02:18,898 --> 00:02:19,138

[maggie]: kind of

 

600

00:02:19,265 --> 00:02:19,806

[juliet_hahn]: blossomed

 

601

00:02:19,278 --> 00:02:19,840

[maggie]: the exiety

 

602

00:02:19,906 --> 00:02:20,086

[juliet_hahn]: years

 

603

00:02:19,921 --> 00:02:20,302

[maggie]: sisters

 

604

00:02:20,166 --> 00:02:20,567

[juliet_hahn]: later but

 

605

00:02:20,503 --> 00:02:20,945

[maggie]: blossom

 

606

00:02:20,607 --> 00:02:21,248

[juliet_hahn]: just give us a little

 

607

00:02:21,145 --> 00:02:21,326

[maggie]: years

 

608

00:02:21,268 --> 00:02:21,569

[juliet_hahn]: history

 

609

00:02:21,406 --> 00:02:21,647

[maggie]: later

 

610

00:02:21,629 --> 00:02:21,829

[juliet_hahn]: about

 

611

00:02:21,708 --> 00:02:22,210

[maggie]: but just give us

 

612

00:02:22,131 --> 00:02:22,292

[juliet_hahn]: you're

 

613

00:02:22,230 --> 00:02:22,471

[maggie]: a little

 

614

00:02:22,332 --> 00:02:22,715

[juliet_hahn]: upbringing

 

615

00:02:22,531 --> 00:02:23,977

[maggie]: history about your upbringing

 

616

00:02:24,204 --> 00:02:24,286

[juliet_hahn]: ah

 

617

00:02:24,753 --> 00:02:25,015

[abbe_greenberg]: want to

 

618

00:02:25,279 --> 00:02:25,560

[maggie]: sure

 

619

00:02:25,298 --> 00:02:26,266

[abbe_greenberg]: be a waiter

 

620

00:02:27,926 --> 00:02:28,147

[maggie]: wait

 

621

00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:31,328

[juliet_hahn]: yeah yeah yeah you can go way

back yeah

 

622

00:02:30,381 --> 00:02:31,102

[maggie]: you can go away back

 

623

00:02:32,142 --> 00:02:33,162

[abbe_greenberg]: okay

 

624

00:02:32,965 --> 00:02:33,606

[maggie]: where our parents

 

625

00:02:33,642 --> 00:02:33,965

[abbe_greenberg]: yeah

 

626

00:02:33,666 --> 00:02:33,806

[maggie]: met

 

627

00:02:33,832 --> 00:02:33,912

[juliet_hahn]: no

 

628

00:02:33,866 --> 00:02:37,072

[maggie]: and every no i'm just kidding i'm

kidding

 

629

00:02:37,296 --> 00:02:38,458

[juliet_hahn]: that would be funny but yeah now

 

630

00:02:38,614 --> 00:02:39,335

[maggie]: so but

 

631

00:02:39,930 --> 00:02:41,190

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

632

00:02:40,818 --> 00:02:44,082

[maggie]: i grew and actually in law i

was born in queens and grew up mainly

 

633

00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:44,381

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

634

00:02:44,162 --> 00:02:51,419

[maggie]: in long island actually entirely in long

island and so

 

635

00:02:51,582 --> 00:02:51,602

[abbe_greenberg]: m

 

636

00:02:51,739 --> 00:02:56,267

[maggie]: i anxiety wise realize now that i

 

637

00:02:56,580 --> 00:02:56,764

[juliet_hahn]: ye

 

638

00:02:56,928 --> 00:02:58,611

[maggie]: was always an anxious child

 

639

00:02:58,920 --> 00:02:59,285

[juliet_hahn]: my

 

640

00:02:59,833 --> 00:03:04,320

[maggie]: and i particularly had a lot of

separation

 

641

00:03:03,990 --> 00:03:04,370

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

642

00:03:04,441 --> 00:03:09,569

[maggie]: anxiety particularly because i grew up with

one parent who was fairly ill from the

 

643

00:03:09,609 --> 00:03:14,477

[maggie]: time i was really young physically ill

not mentally ill but was in and out

 

644

00:03:14,517 --> 00:03:16,340

[maggie]: of the hospital for long periods of

time so

 

645

00:03:16,515 --> 00:03:16,536

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

646

00:03:16,541 --> 00:03:17,322

[maggie]: i think that

 

647

00:03:17,790 --> 00:03:17,931

[juliet_hahn]: yah

 

648

00:03:18,183 --> 00:03:19,866

[maggie]: really influenced that whole

 

649

00:03:19,932 --> 00:03:20,138

[abbe_greenberg]: oh

 

650

00:03:19,946 --> 00:03:20,267

[maggie]: piece

 

651

00:03:19,989 --> 00:03:20,010

[juliet_hahn]: h

 

652

00:03:20,668 --> 00:03:25,215

[maggie]: of and other things did as well

but i had separation anxiety but there was

 

653

00:03:25,295 --> 00:03:29,822

[maggie]: no words for it there was no

vocabulary for what was going on um and

 

654

00:03:29,882 --> 00:03:35,390

[maggie]: i just think i was a very

anxious kid but nobody picked up

 

655

00:03:35,441 --> 00:03:35,621

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

656

00:03:35,550 --> 00:03:35,791

[maggie]: on it

 

657

00:03:35,721 --> 00:03:36,542

[juliet_hahn]: it was it was just kind

 

658

00:03:36,512 --> 00:03:36,592

[maggie]: you

 

659

00:03:36,562 --> 00:03:36,703

[juliet_hahn]: of the

 

660

00:03:36,652 --> 00:03:36,792

[maggie]: know

 

661

00:03:36,723 --> 00:03:37,344

[juliet_hahn]: way things were

 

662

00:03:37,193 --> 00:03:37,273

[maggie]: and

 

663

00:03:37,544 --> 00:03:37,804

[juliet_hahn]: right it

 

664

00:03:37,794 --> 00:03:37,834

[maggie]: of

 

665

00:03:37,844 --> 00:03:37,904

[juliet_hahn]: was

 

666

00:03:37,854 --> 00:03:41,059

[maggie]: the way things yeah that's when it

was the nineteen seventies you know it was

 

667

00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,587

[maggie]: like when you you left home for

the day you know you're six years old

 

668

00:03:45,707 --> 00:03:50,373

[maggie]: and you come back dinner you know

and i had very attentive parents but it

 

669

00:03:50,533 --> 00:03:53,176

[maggie]: wasn't something that was really looked

 

670

00:03:53,132 --> 00:03:53,293

[juliet_hahn]: well

 

671

00:03:53,316 --> 00:03:54,357

[maggie]: at and i think

 

672

00:03:54,410 --> 00:03:54,671

[juliet_hahn]: yeah it

 

673

00:03:54,698 --> 00:03:54,818

[maggie]: you

 

674

00:03:54,731 --> 00:03:54,952

[juliet_hahn]: probably

 

675

00:03:54,838 --> 00:03:54,998

[maggie]: know

 

676

00:03:54,992 --> 00:03:55,755

[juliet_hahn]: was more like oh she's

 

677

00:03:55,829 --> 00:03:56,169

[maggie]: it probably

 

678

00:03:55,996 --> 00:03:56,197

[juliet_hahn]: just a

 

679

00:03:56,230 --> 00:03:56,290

[maggie]: was

 

680

00:03:56,237 --> 00:03:56,638

[juliet_hahn]: warrior

 

681

00:03:56,330 --> 00:03:56,991

[maggie]: more like oh she's

 

682

00:03:56,859 --> 00:03:57,201

[juliet_hahn]: right that's

 

683

00:03:57,211 --> 00:03:57,351

[maggie]: just

 

684

00:03:57,221 --> 00:03:57,441

[juliet_hahn]: what they

 

685

00:03:57,391 --> 00:03:57,872

[maggie]: a warrior

 

686

00:03:57,482 --> 00:03:58,124

[juliet_hahn]: used to call it like

 

687

00:03:58,073 --> 00:04:03,021

[maggie]: right yeah i wouldn't even say that

they would call me a warrior because my

 

688

00:04:03,101 --> 00:04:09,492

[maggie]: worry was a little bit different but

it was more separation based and you know

 

689

00:04:09,612 --> 00:04:11,475

[maggie]: and i had and i would get

very sort of

 

690

00:04:11,460 --> 00:04:11,601

[juliet_hahn]: ye

 

691

00:04:11,675 --> 00:04:14,520

[maggie]: overwhelmed um there was some a

 

692

00:04:14,556 --> 00:04:14,797

[juliet_hahn]: there

 

693

00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,684

[maggie]: d h d in there there was

dislexa

 

694

00:04:16,380 --> 00:04:16,621

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

695

00:04:16,824 --> 00:04:16,964

[maggie]: like

 

696

00:04:17,024 --> 00:04:17,105

[abbe_greenberg]: hi

 

697

00:04:17,044 --> 00:04:20,614

[maggie]: you so there was like all these

things kind of lend into each

 

698

00:04:20,540 --> 00:04:20,680

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

699

00:04:20,694 --> 00:04:20,915

[maggie]: other

 

700

00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:21,381

[juliet_hahn]: well and also

 

701

00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:21,899

[maggie]: right

 

702

00:04:21,822 --> 00:04:21,942

[juliet_hahn]: with

 

703

00:04:21,939 --> 00:04:22,059

[maggie]: well

 

704

00:04:22,082 --> 00:04:22,223

[juliet_hahn]: with

 

705

00:04:22,099 --> 00:04:22,300

[maggie]: and then

 

706

00:04:22,383 --> 00:04:22,443

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

707

00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:22,600

[maggie]: also

 

708

00:04:22,483 --> 00:04:23,124

[juliet_hahn]: know we talk

 

709

00:04:23,021 --> 00:04:23,161

[maggie]: with

 

710

00:04:23,184 --> 00:04:23,344

[juliet_hahn]: about

 

711

00:04:23,301 --> 00:04:23,442

[maggie]: with

 

712

00:04:23,364 --> 00:04:23,485

[juliet_hahn]: this

 

713

00:04:23,582 --> 00:04:23,662

[maggie]: you

 

714

00:04:23,625 --> 00:04:23,745

[juliet_hahn]: with

 

715

00:04:23,702 --> 00:04:23,802

[maggie]: know

 

716

00:04:23,925 --> 00:04:24,126

[juliet_hahn]: other

 

717

00:04:24,083 --> 00:04:24,143

[maggie]: we

 

718

00:04:24,166 --> 00:04:24,386

[juliet_hahn]: guests

 

719

00:04:24,203 --> 00:04:24,563

[maggie]: talk about

 

720

00:04:24,466 --> 00:04:24,627

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

721

00:04:24,583 --> 00:04:24,704

[maggie]: this

 

722

00:04:24,687 --> 00:04:24,767

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

723

00:04:24,824 --> 00:04:24,944

[maggie]: with

 

724

00:04:24,827 --> 00:04:25,207

[juliet_hahn]: now come on

 

725

00:04:25,164 --> 00:04:25,345

[maggie]: other

 

726

00:04:25,288 --> 00:04:25,368

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

727

00:04:25,385 --> 00:04:25,605

[maggie]: guests

 

728

00:04:25,428 --> 00:04:25,688

[juliet_hahn]: say you

 

729

00:04:25,685 --> 00:04:25,825

[maggie]: that

 

730

00:04:25,748 --> 00:04:25,869

[juliet_hahn]: know

 

731

00:04:25,926 --> 00:04:26,006

[maggie]: you

 

732

00:04:25,949 --> 00:04:26,169

[juliet_hahn]: they were

 

733

00:04:26,166 --> 00:04:26,286

[maggie]: come

 

734

00:04:26,209 --> 00:04:26,490

[juliet_hahn]: just like

 

735

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[maggie]: on and

 

736

00:04:26,550 --> 00:04:26,690

[juliet_hahn]: sick

 

737

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[maggie]: say you know

 

738

00:04:27,071 --> 00:04:27,211

[juliet_hahn]: with

 

739

00:04:27,168 --> 00:04:27,268

[maggie]: they

 

740

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[juliet_hahn]: that

 

741

00:04:27,288 --> 00:04:27,528

[maggie]: were just

 

742

00:04:27,471 --> 00:04:27,591

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

743

00:04:27,568 --> 00:04:27,929

[maggie]: like sick

 

744

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[juliet_hahn]: you really

 

745

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[maggie]: with that

 

746

00:04:28,553 --> 00:04:28,673

[juliet_hahn]: do

 

747

00:04:28,690 --> 00:04:28,810

[maggie]: you

 

748

00:04:28,974 --> 00:04:29,214

[juliet_hahn]: have

 

749

00:04:29,071 --> 00:04:29,472

[maggie]: you really

 

750

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[juliet_hahn]: some sort

 

751

00:04:29,852 --> 00:04:29,992

[maggie]: do

 

752

00:04:30,156 --> 00:04:30,216

[juliet_hahn]: of

 

753

00:04:30,273 --> 00:04:30,513

[maggie]: have

 

754

00:04:30,356 --> 00:04:30,897

[juliet_hahn]: anxiety

 

755

00:04:30,874 --> 00:04:31,014

[maggie]: some

 

756

00:04:30,977 --> 00:04:31,177

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

757

00:04:31,114 --> 00:04:31,315

[maggie]: sort

 

758

00:04:31,197 --> 00:04:31,418

[juliet_hahn]: you don't

 

759

00:04:31,415 --> 00:04:31,455

[maggie]: of

 

760

00:04:31,458 --> 00:04:31,718

[juliet_hahn]: know what's

 

761

00:04:31,615 --> 00:04:32,136

[maggie]: anxiety

 

762

00:04:31,738 --> 00:04:32,199

[juliet_hahn]: going to happen

 

763

00:04:32,216 --> 00:04:32,657

[maggie]: because you don't

 

764

00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:32,800

[juliet_hahn]: you don't

 

765

00:04:32,677 --> 00:04:32,937

[maggie]: know what's

 

766

00:04:32,820 --> 00:04:32,920

[juliet_hahn]: know

 

767

00:04:32,957 --> 00:04:33,078

[maggie]: going

 

768

00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:33,121

[juliet_hahn]: where

 

769

00:04:33,098 --> 00:04:33,158

[maggie]: to

 

770

00:04:33,161 --> 00:04:33,341

[juliet_hahn]: you're

 

771

00:04:33,198 --> 00:04:33,418

[maggie]: happen

 

772

00:04:33,361 --> 00:04:33,561

[juliet_hahn]: going to

 

773

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[maggie]: you don't

 

774

00:04:33,982 --> 00:04:34,122

[juliet_hahn]: not

 

775

00:04:34,059 --> 00:04:34,199

[maggie]: know

 

776

00:04:34,223 --> 00:04:34,703

[juliet_hahn]: understand

 

777

00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:34,760

[maggie]: where you're going

 

778

00:04:34,763 --> 00:04:35,104

[juliet_hahn]: something

 

779

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[maggie]: to

 

780

00:04:35,204 --> 00:04:35,244

[juliet_hahn]: or

 

781

00:04:35,241 --> 00:04:35,381

[maggie]: not

 

782

00:04:35,304 --> 00:04:35,565

[juliet_hahn]: where you're

 

783

00:04:35,502 --> 00:04:35,942

[maggie]: understand

 

784

00:04:35,585 --> 00:04:36,346

[juliet_hahn]: going to feel stupid

 

785

00:04:36,023 --> 00:04:36,483

[maggie]: something or

 

786

00:04:36,426 --> 00:04:36,486

[juliet_hahn]: or

 

787

00:04:36,523 --> 00:04:36,624

[maggie]: where

 

788

00:04:36,546 --> 00:04:36,767

[juliet_hahn]: someone

 

789

00:04:36,664 --> 00:04:36,804

[maggie]: you're

 

790

00:04:36,787 --> 00:04:36,847

[juliet_hahn]: is

 

791

00:04:36,824 --> 00:04:36,924

[maggie]: going

 

792

00:04:36,867 --> 00:04:36,987

[juliet_hahn]: going

 

793

00:04:36,944 --> 00:04:37,124

[maggie]: a feel

 

794

00:04:37,007 --> 00:04:37,047

[juliet_hahn]: to

 

795

00:04:37,225 --> 00:04:37,565

[maggie]: stupid

 

796

00:04:37,368 --> 00:04:37,628

[juliet_hahn]: figure

 

797

00:04:37,645 --> 00:04:37,705

[maggie]: or

 

798

00:04:37,728 --> 00:04:37,829

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

799

00:04:37,765 --> 00:04:38,066

[maggie]: someone's

 

800

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[juliet_hahn]: out

 

801

00:04:38,086 --> 00:04:38,386

[maggie]: going to you

 

802

00:04:38,510 --> 00:04:38,610

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

803

00:04:38,587 --> 00:04:38,847

[maggie]: figure

 

804

00:04:38,710 --> 00:04:38,830

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

805

00:04:38,947 --> 00:04:39,048

[maggie]: you

 

806

00:04:39,031 --> 00:04:39,311

[juliet_hahn]: i feel

 

807

00:04:39,208 --> 00:04:39,328

[maggie]: out

 

808

00:04:39,351 --> 00:04:39,712

[juliet_hahn]: like you know

 

809

00:04:39,749 --> 00:04:39,829

[maggie]: and

 

810

00:04:39,792 --> 00:04:39,972

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

811

00:04:39,929 --> 00:04:40,049

[maggie]: so

 

812

00:04:40,032 --> 00:04:40,473

[juliet_hahn]: with anyone

 

813

00:04:40,250 --> 00:04:40,550

[maggie]: i feel

 

814

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[juliet_hahn]: that

 

815

00:04:40,570 --> 00:04:40,670

[maggie]: like

 

816

00:04:40,673 --> 00:04:40,914

[juliet_hahn]: learns

 

817

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[maggie]: you know that

 

818

00:04:41,034 --> 00:04:41,394

[juliet_hahn]: different

 

819

00:04:41,251 --> 00:04:41,832

[maggie]: with anyone that

 

820

00:04:41,775 --> 00:04:41,995

[juliet_hahn]: there's

 

821

00:04:41,892 --> 00:04:42,173

[maggie]: learns

 

822

00:04:42,176 --> 00:04:42,316

[juliet_hahn]: even

 

823

00:04:42,253 --> 00:04:42,634

[maggie]: different

 

824

00:04:42,536 --> 00:04:43,157

[juliet_hahn]: even if you're not

 

825

00:04:43,395 --> 00:04:43,535

[maggie]: even

 

826

00:04:43,418 --> 00:04:43,859

[juliet_hahn]: you know kind

 

827

00:04:43,775 --> 00:04:43,916

[maggie]: even

 

828

00:04:43,919 --> 00:04:43,959

[juliet_hahn]: of

 

829

00:04:43,956 --> 00:04:44,016

[maggie]: if

 

830

00:04:44,019 --> 00:04:44,219

[juliet_hahn]: built

 

831

00:04:44,036 --> 00:04:44,376

[maggie]: you're not

 

832

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[juliet_hahn]: and

 

833

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[maggie]: you know

 

834

00:04:44,820 --> 00:04:45,081

[juliet_hahn]: someone

 

835

00:04:44,977 --> 00:04:45,118

[maggie]: kind

 

836

00:04:45,121 --> 00:04:45,221

[juliet_hahn]: with

 

837

00:04:45,138 --> 00:04:45,458

[maggie]: of built

 

838

00:04:45,381 --> 00:04:46,142

[juliet_hahn]: anxiety you're going

 

839

00:04:46,059 --> 00:04:46,300

[maggie]: someone

 

840

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[juliet_hahn]: to have

 

841

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[maggie]: with

 

842

00:04:46,403 --> 00:04:46,583

[juliet_hahn]: some

 

843

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[maggie]: anxiety

 

844

00:04:46,723 --> 00:04:46,984

[juliet_hahn]: level

 

845

00:04:47,101 --> 00:04:47,261

[maggie]: you're

 

846

00:04:47,124 --> 00:04:47,304

[juliet_hahn]: of it

 

847

00:04:47,281 --> 00:04:47,361

[maggie]: goin

 

848

00:04:47,344 --> 00:04:47,525

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

849

00:04:47,401 --> 00:04:47,562

[maggie]: to have

 

850

00:04:47,545 --> 00:04:47,685

[juliet_hahn]: you're

 

851

00:04:47,622 --> 00:04:47,802

[maggie]: some

 

852

00:04:47,705 --> 00:04:47,945

[juliet_hahn]: trying to

 

853

00:04:47,942 --> 00:04:48,183

[maggie]: level

 

854

00:04:47,985 --> 00:04:48,506

[juliet_hahn]: navigate

 

855

00:04:48,323 --> 00:04:48,904

[maggie]: of it because you're

 

856

00:04:48,907 --> 00:04:48,927

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

857

00:04:48,924 --> 00:04:49,084

[maggie]: trying

 

858

00:04:49,027 --> 00:04:49,388

[juliet_hahn]: world

 

859

00:04:49,104 --> 00:04:49,785

[maggie]: to navigate

 

860

00:04:49,508 --> 00:04:49,748

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

861

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[maggie]: a world

 

862

00:04:50,289 --> 00:04:50,790

[juliet_hahn]: you know other

 

863

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[maggie]: that

 

864

00:04:50,830 --> 00:04:51,511

[juliet_hahn]: people don't always

 

865

00:04:51,508 --> 00:04:51,588

[maggie]: you

 

866

00:04:51,591 --> 00:04:51,732

[juliet_hahn]: fit

 

867

00:04:51,649 --> 00:04:51,749

[maggie]: know

 

868

00:04:51,832 --> 00:04:52,092

[juliet_hahn]: into

 

869

00:04:51,849 --> 00:04:52,270

[maggie]: other people

 

870

00:04:52,253 --> 00:04:52,353

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

871

00:04:52,350 --> 00:04:52,951

[maggie]: don't always fit

 

872

00:04:52,814 --> 00:04:53,054

[juliet_hahn]: i you

 

873

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[maggie]: into

 

874

00:04:53,074 --> 00:04:53,555

[juliet_hahn]: know appreciate

 

875

00:04:53,472 --> 00:04:53,572

[maggie]: so

 

876

00:04:53,575 --> 00:04:54,036

[juliet_hahn]: your sharing that

 

877

00:04:54,193 --> 00:04:54,774

[maggie]: you appreciate

 

878

00:04:54,576 --> 00:04:54,777

[juliet_hahn]: so a

 

879

00:04:54,794 --> 00:04:54,894

[maggie]: your

 

880

00:04:54,837 --> 00:04:55,057

[juliet_hahn]: little

 

881

00:04:54,914 --> 00:04:55,134

[maggie]: sharing

 

882

00:04:55,097 --> 00:04:55,177

[juliet_hahn]: bit

 

883

00:04:55,174 --> 00:04:55,275

[maggie]: that

 

884

00:04:55,258 --> 00:04:55,678

[juliet_hahn]: more though

 

885

00:04:55,795 --> 00:04:55,996

[maggie]: so a

 

886

00:04:56,039 --> 00:04:56,159

[juliet_hahn]: when

 

887

00:04:56,076 --> 00:04:56,276

[maggie]: little

 

888

00:04:56,219 --> 00:04:56,319

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

889

00:04:56,316 --> 00:04:56,657

[maggie]: bit more

 

890

00:04:56,500 --> 00:04:56,880

[juliet_hahn]: cided

 

891

00:04:56,697 --> 00:04:56,937

[maggie]: though

 

892

00:04:57,001 --> 00:04:57,301

[juliet_hahn]: okay so

 

893

00:04:57,278 --> 00:04:57,378

[maggie]: when

 

894

00:04:57,401 --> 00:04:57,662

[juliet_hahn]: obviously

 

895

00:04:57,438 --> 00:04:57,538

[maggie]: you

 

896

00:04:57,702 --> 00:04:57,782

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

897

00:04:57,719 --> 00:04:58,099

[maggie]: sided

 

898

00:04:57,802 --> 00:04:58,403

[juliet_hahn]: were a good student

 

899

00:04:58,220 --> 00:04:58,380

[maggie]: okay

 

900

00:04:58,423 --> 00:04:58,483

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

901

00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:58,520

[maggie]: so

 

902

00:04:58,503 --> 00:04:58,603

[juliet_hahn]: this

 

903

00:04:58,620 --> 00:04:58,901

[maggie]: obviously

 

904

00:04:58,643 --> 00:04:58,884

[juliet_hahn]: is what i

 

905

00:04:58,921 --> 00:04:59,021

[maggie]: you

 

906

00:04:58,984 --> 00:04:59,184

[juliet_hahn]: also

 

907

00:04:59,041 --> 00:04:59,361

[maggie]: were a good

 

908

00:04:59,284 --> 00:04:59,445

[juliet_hahn]: love

 

909

00:04:59,401 --> 00:04:59,662

[maggie]: student

 

910

00:04:59,485 --> 00:04:59,905

[juliet_hahn]: when people

 

911

00:04:59,682 --> 00:05:00,443

[maggie]: and this is what i also

 

912

00:05:00,286 --> 00:05:00,947

[juliet_hahn]: don't understand

 

913

00:05:00,563 --> 00:05:01,124

[maggie]: love when people

 

914

00:05:01,027 --> 00:05:01,628

[juliet_hahn]: dislexia

 

915

00:05:01,505 --> 00:05:02,186

[maggie]: don't understand

 

916

00:05:02,009 --> 00:05:02,510

[juliet_hahn]: and eighth

 

917

00:05:02,246 --> 00:05:02,867

[maggie]: dislexia

 

918

00:05:02,570 --> 00:05:03,311

[juliet_hahn]: day they always assume

 

919

00:05:03,248 --> 00:05:03,508

[maggie]: in eight

 

920

00:05:03,431 --> 00:05:03,612

[juliet_hahn]: okay

 

921

00:05:03,608 --> 00:05:03,749

[maggie]: each

 

922

00:05:03,672 --> 00:05:03,772

[juliet_hahn]: they

 

923

00:05:03,789 --> 00:05:03,909

[maggie]: day

 

924

00:05:03,812 --> 00:05:04,012

[juliet_hahn]: weren't

 

925

00:05:03,949 --> 00:05:04,029

[maggie]: they

 

926

00:05:04,032 --> 00:05:04,072

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

927

00:05:04,089 --> 00:05:04,270

[maggie]: always

 

928

00:05:04,092 --> 00:05:04,573

[juliet_hahn]: good student

 

929

00:05:04,310 --> 00:05:04,550

[maggie]: assume

 

930

00:05:04,653 --> 00:05:04,713

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

931

00:05:04,670 --> 00:05:04,831

[maggie]: okay

 

932

00:05:04,753 --> 00:05:04,874

[juliet_hahn]: know

 

933

00:05:04,891 --> 00:05:05,011

[maggie]: they

 

934

00:05:04,914 --> 00:05:05,014

[juliet_hahn]: some

 

935

00:05:05,051 --> 00:05:05,452

[maggie]: weren't a good

 

936

00:05:05,394 --> 00:05:05,415

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

937

00:05:05,492 --> 00:05:05,812

[maggie]: student

 

938

00:05:05,495 --> 00:05:05,855

[juliet_hahn]: was not a

 

939

00:05:05,872 --> 00:05:05,952

[maggie]: you

 

940

00:05:05,875 --> 00:05:05,995

[juliet_hahn]: good

 

941

00:05:05,992 --> 00:05:06,093

[maggie]: know

 

942

00:05:06,036 --> 00:05:06,316

[juliet_hahn]: student

 

943

00:05:06,133 --> 00:05:06,253

[maggie]: some

 

944

00:05:06,356 --> 00:05:06,637

[juliet_hahn]: but not

 

945

00:05:06,613 --> 00:05:06,834

[maggie]: i was

 

946

00:05:06,737 --> 00:05:07,077

[juliet_hahn]: everyone

 

947

00:05:06,894 --> 00:05:07,235

[maggie]: not a good

 

948

00:05:07,197 --> 00:05:07,278

[juliet_hahn]: is

 

949

00:05:07,275 --> 00:05:07,555

[maggie]: student

 

950

00:05:07,378 --> 00:05:07,658

[juliet_hahn]: not

 

951

00:05:07,595 --> 00:05:08,296

[maggie]: but not everyone

 

952

00:05:08,159 --> 00:05:08,279

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

953

00:05:08,437 --> 00:05:08,517

[maggie]: is

 

954

00:05:08,460 --> 00:05:08,560

[juliet_hahn]: how

 

955

00:05:08,617 --> 00:05:08,877

[maggie]: not

 

956

00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:09,462

[juliet_hahn]: did you end up going

 

957

00:05:09,398 --> 00:05:09,498

[maggie]: so

 

958

00:05:09,502 --> 00:05:10,124

[juliet_hahn]: to university

 

959

00:05:09,699 --> 00:05:10,119

[maggie]: how did you

 

960

00:05:10,184 --> 00:05:10,224

[juliet_hahn]: of

 

961

00:05:10,199 --> 00:05:10,300

[maggie]: end

 

962

00:05:10,264 --> 00:05:10,765

[juliet_hahn]: pennsylvania

 

963

00:05:10,380 --> 00:05:10,800

[maggie]: up going to

 

964

00:05:10,805 --> 00:05:10,886

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

965

00:05:10,861 --> 00:05:11,361

[maggie]: university

 

966

00:05:10,906 --> 00:05:11,648

[juliet_hahn]: what did you major

 

967

00:05:11,422 --> 00:05:11,982

[maggie]: of pensylvania

 

968

00:05:11,728 --> 00:05:11,768

[juliet_hahn]: in

 

969

00:05:12,043 --> 00:05:15,448

[maggie]: and what did you major well i

ended up major again philosophy

 

970

00:05:14,910 --> 00:05:15,111

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

971

00:05:16,129 --> 00:05:18,974

[maggie]: very practical but you know for me

 

972

00:05:19,770 --> 00:05:24,120

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

973

00:05:20,777 --> 00:05:25,024

[maggie]: and this lexie as you know there's

so many different presentations of

 

974

00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:25,362

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

975

00:05:25,104 --> 00:05:30,493

[maggie]: dislexia um and so people tend to

think it's like there's one kind

 

976

00:05:30,381 --> 00:05:30,541

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

977

00:05:30,573 --> 00:05:30,834

[maggie]: of dis

 

978

00:05:30,882 --> 00:05:31,263

[juliet_hahn]: spectrum

 

979

00:05:30,894 --> 00:05:34,099

[maggie]: lexiastre right but here so many

 

980

00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:34,261

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

981

00:05:34,179 --> 00:05:36,784

[maggie]: presentations of dislexia and for me i

was

 

982

00:05:36,750 --> 00:05:37,950

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

983

00:05:36,844 --> 00:05:38,206

[maggie]: someone who didn't read at all

 

984

00:05:38,130 --> 00:05:39,780

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

985

00:05:38,306 --> 00:05:40,470

[maggie]: till fourth grade could not read

 

986

00:05:40,380 --> 00:05:40,562

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

987

00:05:40,730 --> 00:05:46,440

[maggie]: at all um but of course i

wae in school in the nineteen seventies and

 

988

00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,146

[maggie]: there wasn't quite so much like testing

like can you do this like if you

 

989

00:05:50,226 --> 00:05:53,832

[maggie]: were a quiet good girl like no

one was saying anything

 

990

00:05:53,610 --> 00:05:54,930

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

991

00:05:54,734 --> 00:05:59,161

[maggie]: but i think my my third grade

teacher realized like at the end of the

 

992

00:05:59,221 --> 00:05:59,442

[maggie]: year

 

993

00:05:59,810 --> 00:05:59,951

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

994

00:06:00,624 --> 00:06:02,527

[maggie]: that i could not read and you

know

 

995

00:06:02,580 --> 00:06:03,240

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

996

00:06:02,607 --> 00:06:07,575

[maggie]: basically said for next year we think

she should be in special education which was

 

997

00:06:07,635 --> 00:06:08,537

[maggie]: very different then

 

998

00:06:08,650 --> 00:06:08,831

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

999

00:06:08,757 --> 00:06:09,078

[maggie]: also

 

1000

00:06:09,032 --> 00:06:09,172

[juliet_hahn]: now

 

1001

00:06:09,899 --> 00:06:11,141

[maggie]: from what it is now and

 

1002

00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:12,990

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1003

00:06:11,962 --> 00:06:16,390

[maggie]: basically my mom worked in the schools

as a social worker and had

 

1004

00:06:16,314 --> 00:06:16,396

[juliet_hahn]: ah

 

1005

00:06:16,450 --> 00:06:20,757

[maggie]: a friend who was a reading teacher

who instructed

 

1006

00:06:20,220 --> 00:06:21,150

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1007

00:06:20,817 --> 00:06:24,383

[maggie]: my mom on how teach me to

read because she realized i couldn't learn phonic

 

1008

00:06:24,190 --> 00:06:24,330

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

1009

00:06:24,624 --> 00:06:25,184

[maggie]: like so many

 

1010

00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:25,214

[juliet_hahn]: just

 

1011

00:06:25,245 --> 00:06:26,627

[maggie]: of us with this lexifphonic

 

1012

00:06:27,030 --> 00:06:28,320

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1013

00:06:27,809 --> 00:06:31,535

[maggie]: phonic is not helpful in any way

and my

 

1014

00:06:31,590 --> 00:06:32,850

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1015

00:06:31,635 --> 00:06:35,642

[maggie]: mom worked with me really hard and

then my four great teacher understood stuff about

 

1016

00:06:35,742 --> 00:06:36,103

[maggie]: reading

 

1017

00:06:36,009 --> 00:06:36,030

[juliet_hahn]: m

 

1018

00:06:36,644 --> 00:06:38,346

[maggie]: and she worked with me and

 

1019

00:06:38,970 --> 00:06:40,410

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1020

00:06:39,088 --> 00:06:42,173

[maggie]: it was that year from the beginning

to the end i was sort of in

 

1021

00:06:42,213 --> 00:06:46,903

[maggie]: the beginning in the lowest reading group

barely reading to the end i really had

 

1022

00:06:46,963 --> 00:06:47,625

[maggie]: gotten the hang of

 

1023

00:06:47,666 --> 00:06:47,748

[juliet_hahn]: ye

 

1024

00:06:47,726 --> 00:06:50,776

[maggie]: it i was really reading voraciously

 

1025

00:06:50,770 --> 00:06:52,973

[juliet_hahn]: right and yeah and you know what

i love because that's

 

1026

00:06:52,940 --> 00:06:53,100

[maggie]: yeah

 

1027

00:06:53,013 --> 00:06:53,334

[juliet_hahn]: again

 

1028

00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:53,842

[maggie]: and you know what i love

 

1029

00:06:53,855 --> 00:06:53,955

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

1030

00:06:53,882 --> 00:06:54,643

[maggie]: because that's again

 

1031

00:06:54,496 --> 00:06:55,217

[juliet_hahn]: it's so important

 

1032

00:06:55,184 --> 00:06:55,284

[maggie]: and

 

1033

00:06:55,257 --> 00:06:55,718

[juliet_hahn]: because people

 

1034

00:06:55,805 --> 00:06:56,085

[maggie]: it's so

 

1035

00:06:56,119 --> 00:06:56,319

[juliet_hahn]: also

 

1036

00:06:56,186 --> 00:06:56,746

[maggie]: important because

 

1037

00:06:56,579 --> 00:06:56,860

[juliet_hahn]: okay they

 

1038

00:06:56,787 --> 00:06:57,007

[maggie]: people

 

1039

00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:57,441

[juliet_hahn]: think okay you

 

1040

00:06:57,388 --> 00:06:57,608

[maggie]: also

 

1041

00:06:57,501 --> 00:06:57,701

[juliet_hahn]: can't

 

1042

00:06:57,708 --> 00:06:57,748

[maggie]: do

 

1043

00:06:57,721 --> 00:06:57,902

[juliet_hahn]: read

 

1044

00:06:57,868 --> 00:06:58,169

[maggie]: okay they

 

1045

00:06:58,182 --> 00:06:58,282

[juliet_hahn]: but

 

1046

00:06:58,209 --> 00:06:58,590

[maggie]: think okay

 

1047

00:06:58,462 --> 00:06:58,743

[juliet_hahn]: so many

 

1048

00:06:58,630 --> 00:06:58,970

[maggie]: you can't

 

1049

00:06:58,803 --> 00:06:59,124

[juliet_hahn]: people that

 

1050

00:06:59,010 --> 00:06:59,170

[maggie]: read

 

1051

00:06:59,204 --> 00:06:59,524

[juliet_hahn]: you know are

 

1052

00:06:59,471 --> 00:06:59,571

[maggie]: but

 

1053

00:06:59,564 --> 00:06:59,865

[juliet_hahn]: listening

 

1054

00:06:59,751 --> 00:07:00,032

[maggie]: so many

 

1055

00:06:59,905 --> 00:07:00,105

[juliet_hahn]: to this

 

1056

00:07:00,072 --> 00:07:00,252

[maggie]: people

 

1057

00:07:00,145 --> 00:07:00,526

[juliet_hahn]: podcast

 

1058

00:07:00,292 --> 00:07:00,413

[maggie]: that

 

1059

00:07:00,586 --> 00:07:00,806

[juliet_hahn]: maybe

 

1060

00:07:00,593 --> 00:07:01,154

[maggie]: know are listening

 

1061

00:07:00,887 --> 00:07:01,187

[juliet_hahn]: have a

 

1062

00:07:01,174 --> 00:07:01,374

[maggie]: to this

 

1063

00:07:01,407 --> 00:07:01,868

[juliet_hahn]: situation

 

1064

00:07:01,434 --> 00:07:02,075

[maggie]: podcast maybe

 

1065

00:07:01,908 --> 00:07:02,169

[juliet_hahn]: where they

 

1066

00:07:02,175 --> 00:07:02,336

[maggie]: have

 

1067

00:07:02,209 --> 00:07:02,509

[juliet_hahn]: think oh

 

1068

00:07:02,456 --> 00:07:02,476

[maggie]: a

 

1069

00:07:02,549 --> 00:07:02,629

[juliet_hahn]: my

 

1070

00:07:02,676 --> 00:07:03,157

[maggie]: situation

 

1071

00:07:02,730 --> 00:07:03,050

[juliet_hahn]: child

 

1072

00:07:03,197 --> 00:07:03,638

[maggie]: where they think

 

1073

00:07:03,531 --> 00:07:03,791

[juliet_hahn]: is so

 

1074

00:07:03,718 --> 00:07:03,958

[maggie]: omit

 

1075

00:07:03,912 --> 00:07:04,452

[juliet_hahn]: behind

 

1076

00:07:04,019 --> 00:07:04,920

[maggie]: child is

 

1077

00:07:04,833 --> 00:07:05,013

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

1078

00:07:04,980 --> 00:07:05,080

[maggie]: so

 

1079

00:07:05,053 --> 00:07:05,154

[juliet_hahn]: they

 

1080

00:07:05,181 --> 00:07:05,741

[maggie]: behind

 

1081

00:07:05,214 --> 00:07:06,115

[juliet_hahn]: can't read but

 

1082

00:07:06,082 --> 00:07:06,282

[maggie]: because

 

1083

00:07:06,175 --> 00:07:06,316

[juliet_hahn]: look

 

1084

00:07:06,302 --> 00:07:06,423

[maggie]: they

 

1085

00:07:06,336 --> 00:07:06,436

[juliet_hahn]: what

 

1086

00:07:06,483 --> 00:07:06,703

[maggie]: can't

 

1087

00:07:06,496 --> 00:07:06,877

[juliet_hahn]: you did

 

1088

00:07:06,783 --> 00:07:06,963

[maggie]: read

 

1089

00:07:07,097 --> 00:07:07,257

[juliet_hahn]: in a

 

1090

00:07:07,264 --> 00:07:07,344

[maggie]: but

 

1091

00:07:07,357 --> 00:07:07,598

[juliet_hahn]: year

 

1092

00:07:07,404 --> 00:07:07,825

[maggie]: look what you

 

1093

00:07:07,838 --> 00:07:07,938

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

1094

00:07:07,925 --> 00:07:08,125

[maggie]: did

 

1095

00:07:07,978 --> 00:07:08,539

[juliet_hahn]: then again

 

1096

00:07:08,326 --> 00:07:08,847

[maggie]: in a year

 

1097

00:07:08,619 --> 00:07:09,120

[juliet_hahn]: i mean you went to

 

1098

00:07:09,087 --> 00:07:09,187

[maggie]: and

 

1099

00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:09,561

[juliet_hahn]: university

 

1100

00:07:09,227 --> 00:07:09,788

[maggie]: then again

 

1101

00:07:09,581 --> 00:07:10,142

[juliet_hahn]: of pensylvania

 

1102

00:07:09,868 --> 00:07:10,129

[maggie]: i mean you

 

1103

00:07:10,182 --> 00:07:10,342

[juliet_hahn]: that's

 

1104

00:07:10,189 --> 00:07:10,369

[maggie]: went to

 

1105

00:07:10,382 --> 00:07:10,402

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

1106

00:07:10,449 --> 00:07:10,810

[maggie]: university

 

1107

00:07:10,462 --> 00:07:10,683

[juliet_hahn]: very

 

1108

00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:11,351

[maggie]: of pensylvania

 

1109

00:07:10,963 --> 00:07:11,584

[juliet_hahn]: un esteemed

 

1110

00:07:11,431 --> 00:07:11,651

[maggie]: that's a

 

1111

00:07:11,685 --> 00:07:11,985

[juliet_hahn]: school

 

1112

00:07:11,711 --> 00:07:11,932

[maggie]: very

 

1113

00:07:12,185 --> 00:07:12,286

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

1114

00:07:12,212 --> 00:07:12,813

[maggie]: un esteemed

 

1115

00:07:12,866 --> 00:07:12,987

[juliet_hahn]: it's

 

1116

00:07:12,913 --> 00:07:13,214

[maggie]: school

 

1117

00:07:13,387 --> 00:07:13,467

[juliet_hahn]: one

 

1118

00:07:13,414 --> 00:07:13,534

[maggie]: so

 

1119

00:07:13,508 --> 00:07:14,309

[juliet_hahn]: of those things that people

 

1120

00:07:14,095 --> 00:07:14,256

[maggie]: it's

 

1121

00:07:14,349 --> 00:07:14,589

[juliet_hahn]: need to

 

1122

00:07:14,616 --> 00:07:14,696

[maggie]: one

 

1123

00:07:14,690 --> 00:07:15,090

[juliet_hahn]: realize

 

1124

00:07:14,736 --> 00:07:15,538

[maggie]: of those things that people

 

1125

00:07:15,411 --> 00:07:15,511

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

1126

00:07:15,578 --> 00:07:15,718

[maggie]: need

 

1127

00:07:15,591 --> 00:07:15,992

[juliet_hahn]: just because

 

1128

00:07:15,778 --> 00:07:16,359

[maggie]: to elise

 

1129

00:07:16,012 --> 00:07:16,633

[juliet_hahn]: you learned different

 

1130

00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:16,760

[maggie]: that

 

1131

00:07:16,653 --> 00:07:17,033

[juliet_hahn]: just because

 

1132

00:07:16,820 --> 00:07:17,221

[maggie]: just because

 

1133

00:07:17,053 --> 00:07:17,514

[juliet_hahn]: you struggle

 

1134

00:07:17,261 --> 00:07:18,002

[maggie]: you learned frent just

 

1135

00:07:17,975 --> 00:07:18,015

[juliet_hahn]: it

 

1136

00:07:18,062 --> 00:07:18,262

[maggie]: because

 

1137

00:07:18,075 --> 00:07:18,255

[juliet_hahn]: needs

 

1138

00:07:18,302 --> 00:07:18,362

[maggie]: you

 

1139

00:07:18,316 --> 00:07:18,476

[juliet_hahn]: to be

 

1140

00:07:18,443 --> 00:07:18,783

[maggie]: struggle

 

1141

00:07:18,556 --> 00:07:19,297

[juliet_hahn]: switched like you said

 

1142

00:07:19,204 --> 00:07:19,484

[maggie]: it needs

 

1143

00:07:19,377 --> 00:07:19,698

[juliet_hahn]: phonic

 

1144

00:07:19,544 --> 00:07:20,085

[maggie]: to be switched

 

1145

00:07:19,858 --> 00:07:20,119

[juliet_hahn]: didn't

 

1146

00:07:20,125 --> 00:07:20,206

[maggie]: like

 

1147

00:07:20,179 --> 00:07:20,259

[juliet_hahn]: do

 

1148

00:07:20,246 --> 00:07:20,306

[maggie]: you

 

1149

00:07:20,339 --> 00:07:20,399

[juliet_hahn]: it

 

1150

00:07:20,386 --> 00:07:20,506

[maggie]: said

 

1151

00:07:20,459 --> 00:07:20,720

[juliet_hahn]: and my

 

1152

00:07:20,586 --> 00:07:21,327

[maggie]: phonic didn't

 

1153

00:07:21,260 --> 00:07:21,561

[juliet_hahn]: story

 

1154

00:07:21,388 --> 00:07:21,728

[maggie]: do it and

 

1155

00:07:21,681 --> 00:07:22,002

[juliet_hahn]: started

 

1156

00:07:21,788 --> 00:07:21,948

[maggie]: my

 

1157

00:07:22,062 --> 00:07:22,422

[juliet_hahn]: in third

 

1158

00:07:22,469 --> 00:07:22,770

[maggie]: story

 

1159

00:07:22,503 --> 00:07:23,124

[juliet_hahn]: and fourth grade

 

1160

00:07:22,910 --> 00:07:23,211

[maggie]: started

 

1161

00:07:23,164 --> 00:07:23,264

[juliet_hahn]: when

 

1162

00:07:23,271 --> 00:07:23,331

[maggie]: in

 

1163

00:07:23,344 --> 00:07:23,364

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

1164

00:07:23,411 --> 00:07:23,631

[maggie]: third

 

1165

00:07:23,464 --> 00:07:23,865

[juliet_hahn]: realized

 

1166

00:07:23,731 --> 00:07:24,052

[maggie]: and fourth

 

1167

00:07:23,885 --> 00:07:24,125

[juliet_hahn]: you know

 

1168

00:07:24,152 --> 00:07:24,352

[maggie]: rate

 

1169

00:07:24,265 --> 00:07:24,286

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

1170

00:07:24,393 --> 00:07:24,493

[maggie]: when

 

1171

00:07:24,406 --> 00:07:24,626

[juliet_hahn]: wasn't

 

1172

00:07:24,553 --> 00:07:24,573

[maggie]: i

 

1173

00:07:24,666 --> 00:07:24,826

[juliet_hahn]: going

 

1174

00:07:24,673 --> 00:07:25,074

[maggie]: realized

 

1175

00:07:24,887 --> 00:07:25,247

[juliet_hahn]: to gifted

 

1176

00:07:25,094 --> 00:07:25,334

[maggie]: you know

 

1177

00:07:25,287 --> 00:07:25,808

[juliet_hahn]: and challentoed

 

1178

00:07:25,474 --> 00:07:25,835

[maggie]: i wasn't

 

1179

00:07:25,868 --> 00:07:26,008

[juliet_hahn]: with

 

1180

00:07:25,875 --> 00:07:26,055

[maggie]: going

 

1181

00:07:26,048 --> 00:07:26,149

[juliet_hahn]: the

 

1182

00:07:26,095 --> 00:07:26,456

[maggie]: to gifted

 

1183

00:07:26,249 --> 00:07:26,649

[juliet_hahn]: entire

 

1184

00:07:26,496 --> 00:07:27,017

[maggie]: and challenged

 

1185

00:07:26,770 --> 00:07:27,050

[juliet_hahn]: class

 

1186

00:07:27,097 --> 00:07:27,217

[maggie]: with

 

1187

00:07:27,110 --> 00:07:27,291

[juliet_hahn]: it was

 

1188

00:07:27,257 --> 00:07:27,357

[maggie]: the

 

1189

00:07:27,331 --> 00:07:27,451

[juliet_hahn]: just

 

1190

00:07:27,438 --> 00:07:27,478

[maggie]: in

 

1191

00:07:27,531 --> 00:07:28,072

[juliet_hahn]: me and another

 

1192

00:07:28,099 --> 00:07:28,199

[maggie]: your

 

1193

00:07:28,112 --> 00:07:28,292

[juliet_hahn]: boy

 

1194

00:07:28,279 --> 00:07:28,559

[maggie]: class

 

1195

00:07:28,392 --> 00:07:28,653

[juliet_hahn]: that had

 

1196

00:07:28,619 --> 00:07:28,679

[maggie]: it

 

1197

00:07:28,693 --> 00:07:28,733

[juliet_hahn]: to

 

1198

00:07:28,699 --> 00:07:28,780

[maggie]: was

 

1199

00:07:28,773 --> 00:07:28,833

[juliet_hahn]: go

 

1200

00:07:28,820 --> 00:07:28,940

[maggie]: just

 

1201

00:07:28,873 --> 00:07:29,294

[juliet_hahn]: to special

 

1202

00:07:29,020 --> 00:07:29,100

[maggie]: me

 

1203

00:07:29,374 --> 00:07:29,695

[juliet_hahn]: reading

 

1204

00:07:29,460 --> 00:07:30,282

[maggie]: a boy that had to go to

 

1205

00:07:30,255 --> 00:07:30,396

[juliet_hahn]: um

 

1206

00:07:30,322 --> 00:07:30,642

[maggie]: special

 

1207

00:07:30,636 --> 00:07:30,756

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

1208

00:07:30,742 --> 00:07:31,043

[maggie]: reading

 

1209

00:07:30,917 --> 00:07:31,598

[juliet_hahn]: it's those things

 

1210

00:07:31,964 --> 00:07:32,044

[maggie]: and

 

1211

00:07:32,139 --> 00:07:32,219

[juliet_hahn]: my

 

1212

00:07:32,224 --> 00:07:32,384

[maggie]: it's

 

1213

00:07:32,339 --> 00:07:32,479

[juliet_hahn]: son

 

1214

00:07:32,444 --> 00:07:32,605

[maggie]: those

 

1215

00:07:32,539 --> 00:07:32,659

[juliet_hahn]: was

 

1216

00:07:32,665 --> 00:07:32,905

[maggie]: things

 

1217

00:07:32,700 --> 00:07:33,501

[juliet_hahn]: the same way but

 

1218

00:07:33,446 --> 00:07:34,287

[maggie]: my son was the same

 

1219

00:07:34,262 --> 00:07:34,823

[juliet_hahn]: nowadays

 

1220

00:07:34,347 --> 00:07:34,787

[maggie]: way but

 

1221

00:07:34,963 --> 00:07:35,504

[juliet_hahn]: it's you know they

 

1222

00:07:35,569 --> 00:07:36,110

[maggie]: nowadays

 

1223

00:07:35,584 --> 00:07:36,426

[juliet_hahn]: pick up on quicker

 

1224

00:07:36,270 --> 00:07:36,530

[maggie]: it's you

 

1225

00:07:36,486 --> 00:07:36,626

[juliet_hahn]: i mean

 

1226

00:07:36,570 --> 00:07:36,690

[maggie]: know

 

1227

00:07:36,726 --> 00:07:36,967

[juliet_hahn]: he was

 

1228

00:07:37,031 --> 00:07:37,131

[maggie]: they

 

1229

00:07:37,087 --> 00:07:37,788

[juliet_hahn]: memorizing

 

1230

00:07:37,211 --> 00:07:38,033

[maggie]: pick up on quicker

 

1231

00:07:37,848 --> 00:07:38,089

[juliet_hahn]: so they

 

1232

00:07:38,073 --> 00:07:38,253

[maggie]: i mean

 

1233

00:07:38,189 --> 00:07:38,489

[juliet_hahn]: actually

 

1234

00:07:38,313 --> 00:07:38,554

[maggie]: he was

 

1235

00:07:38,569 --> 00:07:38,670

[juliet_hahn]: did

 

1236

00:07:38,654 --> 00:07:39,295

[maggie]: memorizing

 

1237

00:07:38,850 --> 00:07:39,230

[juliet_hahn]: pick it up

 

1238

00:07:39,375 --> 00:07:40,076

[maggie]: so they actually

 

1239

00:07:39,730 --> 00:07:40,231

[juliet_hahn]: because he was

 

1240

00:07:40,156 --> 00:07:40,377

[maggie]: didn't

 

1241

00:07:40,291 --> 00:07:40,731

[juliet_hahn]: memorizing

 

1242

00:07:40,437 --> 00:07:40,797

[maggie]: pick it up

 

1243

00:07:40,751 --> 00:07:41,312

[juliet_hahn]: books he would come

 

1244

00:07:41,278 --> 00:07:41,498

[maggie]: because

 

1245

00:07:41,352 --> 00:07:41,512

[juliet_hahn]: home

 

1246

00:07:41,579 --> 00:07:41,619

[maggie]: he

 

1247

00:07:41,612 --> 00:07:41,692

[juliet_hahn]: to

 

1248

00:07:41,679 --> 00:07:41,779

[maggie]: was

 

1249

00:07:41,732 --> 00:07:41,912

[juliet_hahn]: me and

 

1250

00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:42,240

[maggie]: memorizing

 

1251

00:07:41,952 --> 00:07:42,053

[juliet_hahn]: say

 

1252

00:07:42,260 --> 00:07:42,440

[maggie]: becase

 

1253

00:07:42,373 --> 00:07:42,473

[juliet_hahn]: hey

 

1254

00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:42,660

[maggie]: he would

 

1255

00:07:42,553 --> 00:07:42,773

[juliet_hahn]: mom

 

1256

00:07:42,700 --> 00:07:43,121

[maggie]: come home to

 

1257

00:07:43,053 --> 00:07:43,154

[juliet_hahn]: can

 

1258

00:07:43,181 --> 00:07:43,221

[maggie]: me

 

1259

00:07:43,214 --> 00:07:43,314

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

1260

00:07:43,301 --> 00:07:43,362

[maggie]: and

 

1261

00:07:43,354 --> 00:07:43,514

[juliet_hahn]: read

 

1262

00:07:43,402 --> 00:07:43,502

[maggie]: say

 

1263

00:07:43,554 --> 00:07:43,814

[juliet_hahn]: this to

 

1264

00:07:43,822 --> 00:07:43,923

[maggie]: hey

 

1265

00:07:43,834 --> 00:07:44,094

[juliet_hahn]: me because

 

1266

00:07:43,983 --> 00:07:44,183

[maggie]: mom

 

1267

00:07:44,134 --> 00:07:44,455

[juliet_hahn]: he would ask

 

1268

00:07:44,483 --> 00:07:44,564

[maggie]: can

 

1269

00:07:44,535 --> 00:07:44,595

[juliet_hahn]: the

 

1270

00:07:44,624 --> 00:07:44,704

[maggie]: you

 

1271

00:07:44,655 --> 00:07:44,875

[juliet_hahn]: teacher

 

1272

00:07:44,764 --> 00:07:44,924

[maggie]: read

 

1273

00:07:44,935 --> 00:07:45,015

[juliet_hahn]: hey

 

1274

00:07:44,964 --> 00:07:45,084

[maggie]: this

 

1275

00:07:45,055 --> 00:07:45,175

[juliet_hahn]: what

 

1276

00:07:45,145 --> 00:07:45,225

[maggie]: to

 

1277

00:07:45,215 --> 00:07:45,376

[juliet_hahn]: book

 

1278

00:07:45,245 --> 00:07:45,505

[maggie]: me because

 

1279

00:07:45,416 --> 00:07:45,536

[juliet_hahn]: am i

 

1280

00:07:45,525 --> 00:07:45,565

[maggie]: he

 

1281

00:07:45,596 --> 00:07:46,136

[juliet_hahn]: goin to be reading

 

1282

00:07:45,986 --> 00:07:46,206

[maggie]: asked the

 

1283

00:07:46,216 --> 00:07:46,256

[juliet_hahn]: in

 

1284

00:07:46,246 --> 00:07:46,447

[maggie]: teacher

 

1285

00:07:46,296 --> 00:07:46,697

[juliet_hahn]: the circle

 

1286

00:07:46,687 --> 00:07:47,088

[maggie]: what book am

 

1287

00:07:47,057 --> 00:07:47,137

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

1288

00:07:47,148 --> 00:07:47,328

[maggie]: i going

 

1289

00:07:47,217 --> 00:07:47,417

[juliet_hahn]: he can

 

1290

00:07:47,348 --> 00:07:47,448

[maggie]: to be

 

1291

00:07:47,477 --> 00:07:47,858

[juliet_hahn]: memorize

 

1292

00:07:47,669 --> 00:07:47,969

[maggie]: ing in the

 

1293

00:07:47,938 --> 00:07:48,078

[juliet_hahn]: it the

 

1294

00:07:48,029 --> 00:07:48,290

[maggie]: circle

 

1295

00:07:48,118 --> 00:07:48,578

[juliet_hahn]: night before

 

1296

00:07:48,650 --> 00:07:49,452

[maggie]: so he could remember is

 

1297

00:07:50,121 --> 00:07:50,162

[juliet_hahn]: h

 

1298

00:07:50,554 --> 00:07:50,894

[maggie]: god how

 

1299

00:07:50,907 --> 00:07:51,028

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

1300

00:07:51,014 --> 00:07:51,315

[maggie]: smart

 

1301

00:07:51,190 --> 00:07:51,452

[juliet_hahn]: smart

 

1302

00:07:51,896 --> 00:07:52,377

[maggie]: how smart

 

1303

00:07:52,942 --> 00:07:52,962

[juliet_hahn]: m

 

1304

00:07:53,298 --> 00:07:58,487

[maggie]: it's funny my son had a similar

thing happened but he had an orton gillingham

 

1305

00:07:58,567 --> 00:07:59,168

[maggie]: intervention

 

1306

00:07:58,569 --> 00:07:59,044

[juliet_hahn]: m yes

 

1307

00:07:59,228 --> 00:08:05,814

[maggie]: ist and so it's a multicensory reading

program and um literally it

 

1308

00:08:05,820 --> 00:08:05,840

[juliet_hahn]: m

 

1309

00:08:05,874 --> 00:08:08,356

[maggie]: was like he was testing in the

bottom one person

 

1310

00:08:08,205 --> 00:08:08,226

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

1311

00:08:08,476 --> 00:08:09,898

[maggie]: for reading and then

 

1312

00:08:10,350 --> 00:08:11,460

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1313

00:08:10,949 --> 00:08:14,795

[maggie]: a little bit of intervention and he

was in the top ninety nine you know

 

1314

00:08:14,875 --> 00:08:14,975

[maggie]: the

 

1315

00:08:14,915 --> 00:08:15,055

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

1316

00:08:15,035 --> 00:08:16,878

[maggie]: top one per cent was like bottom

to

 

1317

00:08:16,843 --> 00:08:16,988

[abbe_greenberg]: yeah

 

1318

00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:18,060

[maggie]: top and

 

1319

00:08:18,009 --> 00:08:20,430

[juliet_hahn]: yeah yeah

 

1320

00:08:18,701 --> 00:08:19,443

[maggie]: you know so that

 

1321

00:08:19,804 --> 00:08:19,906

[abbe_greenberg]: at

 

1322

00:08:19,823 --> 00:08:21,987

[maggie]: the whole idea is that that those

 

1323

00:08:21,969 --> 00:08:21,990

[juliet_hahn]: m

 

1324

00:08:22,087 --> 00:08:25,571

[maggie]: kinds of interview and and then and

i always say it's similar from anxiety it's

 

1325

00:08:25,631 --> 00:08:32,117

[maggie]: like the more people pick something up

and realize okay their brain just works

 

1326

00:08:32,049 --> 00:08:32,070

[juliet_hahn]: m

 

1327

00:08:32,197 --> 00:08:32,857

[maggie]: in a different

 

1328

00:08:32,688 --> 00:08:33,300

[juliet_hahn]: hm

 

1329

00:08:33,018 --> 00:08:36,040

[maggie]: way m often we can

 

1330

00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,200

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1331

00:08:36,140 --> 00:08:39,966

[maggie]: do an intervention that can really change

the course of

 

1332

00:08:40,020 --> 00:08:40,361

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1333

00:08:40,948 --> 00:08:45,055

[maggie]: one's life but i do agree with

you that like dislexia and a d h

 

1334

00:08:45,175 --> 00:08:45,195

[maggie]: d

 

1335

00:08:45,420 --> 00:08:46,865

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

1336

00:08:45,576 --> 00:08:48,721

[maggie]: and executive functioning you know those of

us they

 

1337

00:08:48,780 --> 00:08:49,041

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1338

00:08:48,801 --> 00:08:52,808

[maggie]: do lead to anxiety that was my

other piece you know definitely

 

1339

00:08:52,751 --> 00:08:53,218

[juliet_hahn]: i never knew

 

1340

00:08:53,389 --> 00:08:55,072

[maggie]: i never knew what my home work

was

 

1341

00:08:55,091 --> 00:08:55,291

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

1342

00:08:55,693 --> 00:08:56,574

[maggie]: you know an elementary

 

1343

00:08:56,273 --> 00:08:56,593

[juliet_hahn]: right and

 

1344

00:08:56,634 --> 00:08:56,935

[maggie]: school

 

1345

00:08:56,854 --> 00:08:58,537

[juliet_hahn]: you know i remember and them we're

goin t you know abby i

 

1346

00:08:58,818 --> 00:08:59,078

[maggie]: remember

 

1347

00:08:58,917 --> 00:08:59,318

[juliet_hahn]: want to dive

 

1348

00:08:59,279 --> 00:08:59,399

[maggie]: we're

 

1349

00:08:59,358 --> 00:08:59,518

[juliet_hahn]: into

 

1350

00:08:59,419 --> 00:08:59,579

[maggie]: gonna

 

1351

00:08:59,578 --> 00:08:59,979

[juliet_hahn]: your little

 

1352

00:08:59,840 --> 00:08:59,940

[maggie]: have

 

1353

00:08:59,999 --> 00:09:00,600

[juliet_hahn]: bit of your story

 

1354

00:09:00,741 --> 00:09:00,881

[maggie]: dive

 

1355

00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:01,001

[juliet_hahn]: but

 

1356

00:09:00,941 --> 00:09:01,082

[maggie]: into

 

1357

00:09:01,081 --> 00:09:01,161

[juliet_hahn]: no

 

1358

00:09:01,142 --> 00:09:01,282

[maggie]: your

 

1359

00:09:01,301 --> 00:09:01,521

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

1360

00:09:01,362 --> 00:09:01,643

[maggie]: little bit

 

1361

00:09:01,602 --> 00:09:01,722

[juliet_hahn]: it's

 

1362

00:09:01,683 --> 00:09:01,883

[maggie]: of your

 

1363

00:09:01,802 --> 00:09:01,902

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

1364

00:09:01,943 --> 00:09:02,123

[maggie]: story

 

1365

00:09:02,042 --> 00:09:02,443

[juliet_hahn]: true i mean

 

1366

00:09:02,464 --> 00:09:02,544

[maggie]: but

 

1367

00:09:02,503 --> 00:09:02,944

[juliet_hahn]: i remember

 

1368

00:09:02,624 --> 00:09:03,045

[maggie]: no because

 

1369

00:09:03,004 --> 00:09:03,104

[juliet_hahn]: when

 

1370

00:09:03,125 --> 00:09:03,245

[maggie]: it's

 

1371

00:09:03,164 --> 00:09:03,465

[juliet_hahn]: my son

 

1372

00:09:03,325 --> 00:09:03,425

[maggie]: so

 

1373

00:09:03,525 --> 00:09:03,665

[juliet_hahn]: came

 

1374

00:09:03,566 --> 00:09:03,726

[maggie]: true

 

1375

00:09:03,705 --> 00:09:03,825

[juliet_hahn]: home

 

1376

00:09:03,786 --> 00:09:03,946

[maggie]: i mean

 

1377

00:09:03,905 --> 00:09:04,086

[juliet_hahn]: one day

 

1378

00:09:04,006 --> 00:09:04,447

[maggie]: i remember

 

1379

00:09:04,126 --> 00:09:04,627

[juliet_hahn]: and said mom

 

1380

00:09:04,507 --> 00:09:04,748

[maggie]: when my

 

1381

00:09:04,807 --> 00:09:04,847

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

1382

00:09:04,828 --> 00:09:04,948

[maggie]: son

 

1383

00:09:04,887 --> 00:09:05,027

[juliet_hahn]: don't

 

1384

00:09:05,028 --> 00:09:05,168

[maggie]: came

 

1385

00:09:05,087 --> 00:09:05,448

[juliet_hahn]: understand

 

1386

00:09:05,208 --> 00:09:05,569

[maggie]: home one day

 

1387

00:09:05,548 --> 00:09:05,829

[juliet_hahn]: anything

 

1388

00:09:05,609 --> 00:09:05,850

[maggie]: and said

 

1389

00:09:05,869 --> 00:09:06,049

[juliet_hahn]: that's

 

1390

00:09:05,910 --> 00:09:06,110

[maggie]: mom

 

1391

00:09:06,089 --> 00:09:06,289

[juliet_hahn]: going

 

1392

00:09:06,290 --> 00:09:06,491

[maggie]: i don't

 

1393

00:09:06,450 --> 00:09:06,530

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

1394

00:09:06,551 --> 00:09:06,911

[maggie]: understand

 

1395

00:09:06,590 --> 00:09:07,050

[juliet_hahn]: i said to him

 

1396

00:09:07,011 --> 00:09:08,013

[maggie]: anything that's going on and

 

1397

00:09:08,031 --> 00:09:08,191

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1398

00:09:08,073 --> 00:09:08,314

[maggie]: i said

 

1399

00:09:08,312 --> 00:09:09,693

[juliet_hahn]: i remember that and it sucks

 

1400

00:09:09,516 --> 00:09:09,836

[maggie]: yeah i

 

1401

00:09:09,873 --> 00:09:09,953

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

1402

00:09:09,936 --> 00:09:10,257

[maggie]: remember

 

1403

00:09:10,013 --> 00:09:10,274

[juliet_hahn]: i was like

 

1404

00:09:10,337 --> 00:09:10,457

[maggie]: that

 

1405

00:09:10,374 --> 00:09:10,634

[juliet_hahn]: you're gonna

 

1406

00:09:10,537 --> 00:09:10,597

[maggie]: and

 

1407

00:09:10,674 --> 00:09:10,774

[juliet_hahn]: have

 

1408

00:09:10,678 --> 00:09:10,738

[maggie]: it

 

1409

00:09:10,854 --> 00:09:11,054

[juliet_hahn]: many

 

1410

00:09:10,858 --> 00:09:11,178

[maggie]: sucks

 

1411

00:09:11,134 --> 00:09:11,455

[juliet_hahn]: of those

 

1412

00:09:11,339 --> 00:09:11,940

[maggie]: yes and you're

 

1413

00:09:11,835 --> 00:09:12,336

[juliet_hahn]: opportunities

 

1414

00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:12,521

[maggie]: gonna have many

 

1415

00:09:12,396 --> 00:09:12,496

[juliet_hahn]: like

 

1416

00:09:12,581 --> 00:09:12,641

[maggie]: of

 

1417

00:09:12,596 --> 00:09:12,716

[juliet_hahn]: you're

 

1418

00:09:12,701 --> 00:09:12,881

[maggie]: those

 

1419

00:09:12,736 --> 00:09:13,357

[juliet_hahn]: on hae many of those

 

1420

00:09:13,282 --> 00:09:13,783

[maggie]: opportunities

 

1421

00:09:13,397 --> 00:09:14,037

[juliet_hahn]: experiences where

 

1422

00:09:13,943 --> 00:09:14,203

[maggie]: and your on

 

1423

00:09:14,178 --> 00:09:14,358

[juliet_hahn]: you're

 

1424

00:09:14,263 --> 00:09:14,484

[maggie]: have many

 

1425

00:09:14,378 --> 00:09:14,558

[juliet_hahn]: going to

 

1426

00:09:14,544 --> 00:09:14,584

[maggie]: of

 

1427

00:09:14,578 --> 00:09:14,718

[juliet_hahn]: look

 

1428

00:09:14,624 --> 00:09:14,764

[maggie]: those

 

1429

00:09:14,778 --> 00:09:15,038

[juliet_hahn]: around

 

1430

00:09:14,804 --> 00:09:15,305

[maggie]: experiences

 

1431

00:09:15,079 --> 00:09:15,459

[juliet_hahn]: and be like

 

1432

00:09:15,345 --> 00:09:16,106

[maggie]: where you're going to look

 

1433

00:09:16,050 --> 00:09:16,150

[juliet_hahn]: how

 

1434

00:09:16,186 --> 00:09:16,427

[maggie]: around

 

1435

00:09:16,250 --> 00:09:16,671

[juliet_hahn]: is everyone

 

1436

00:09:16,487 --> 00:09:16,687

[maggie]: and be

 

1437

00:09:16,711 --> 00:09:17,011

[juliet_hahn]: writing

 

1438

00:09:16,747 --> 00:09:16,868

[maggie]: like

 

1439

00:09:17,071 --> 00:09:17,472

[juliet_hahn]: down what the

 

1440

00:09:17,479 --> 00:09:17,579

[maggie]: how

 

1441

00:09:17,512 --> 00:09:17,732

[juliet_hahn]: teacher

 

1442

00:09:17,659 --> 00:09:18,100

[maggie]: is everyone

 

1443

00:09:17,813 --> 00:09:18,133

[juliet_hahn]: just said

 

1444

00:09:18,140 --> 00:09:18,440

[maggie]: writing

 

1445

00:09:18,233 --> 00:09:18,534

[juliet_hahn]: what they

 

1446

00:09:18,500 --> 00:09:18,621

[maggie]: down

 

1447

00:09:18,634 --> 00:09:18,774

[juliet_hahn]: just

 

1448

00:09:18,661 --> 00:09:18,761

[maggie]: what

 

1449

00:09:18,814 --> 00:09:18,974

[juliet_hahn]: said

 

1450

00:09:18,821 --> 00:09:19,181

[maggie]: the teacher

 

1451

00:09:19,015 --> 00:09:19,215

[juliet_hahn]: to me

 

1452

00:09:19,242 --> 00:09:19,362

[maggie]: just

 

1453

00:09:19,335 --> 00:09:19,636

[juliet_hahn]: sounded

 

1454

00:09:19,422 --> 00:09:19,802

[maggie]: said what

 

1455

00:09:19,696 --> 00:09:19,816

[juliet_hahn]: like

 

1456

00:09:19,843 --> 00:09:19,983

[maggie]: they

 

1457

00:09:19,856 --> 00:09:20,597

[juliet_hahn]: a completely

 

1458

00:09:20,063 --> 00:09:20,644

[maggie]: just said to me

 

1459

00:09:20,657 --> 00:09:20,938

[juliet_hahn]: different

 

1460

00:09:20,764 --> 00:09:21,065

[maggie]: sounded

 

1461

00:09:20,978 --> 00:09:21,338

[juliet_hahn]: language

 

1462

00:09:21,125 --> 00:09:22,026

[maggie]: like a completely

 

1463

00:09:21,719 --> 00:09:22,360

[juliet_hahn]: and i remember

 

1464

00:09:22,066 --> 00:09:22,767

[maggie]: different language

 

1465

00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,161

[juliet_hahn]: that so much

 

1466

00:09:23,188 --> 00:09:23,268

[maggie]: and

 

1467

00:09:23,222 --> 00:09:23,302

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

1468

00:09:23,308 --> 00:09:23,348

[maggie]: i

 

1469

00:09:23,342 --> 00:09:23,502

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

1470

00:09:23,449 --> 00:09:23,829

[maggie]: remember

 

1471

00:09:23,562 --> 00:09:23,702

[juliet_hahn]: was

 

1472

00:09:23,889 --> 00:09:24,030

[maggie]: that

 

1473

00:09:24,083 --> 00:09:24,263

[juliet_hahn]: one of

 

1474

00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:24,350

[maggie]: so

 

1475

00:09:24,303 --> 00:09:24,564

[juliet_hahn]: the things

 

1476

00:09:24,450 --> 00:09:24,631

[maggie]: much

 

1477

00:09:24,584 --> 00:09:24,684

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

1478

00:09:24,691 --> 00:09:24,771

[maggie]: and

 

1479

00:09:24,724 --> 00:09:24,824

[juliet_hahn]: was

 

1480

00:09:24,811 --> 00:09:24,951

[maggie]: that

 

1481

00:09:24,924 --> 00:09:25,145

[juliet_hahn]: really

 

1482

00:09:25,031 --> 00:09:25,151

[maggie]: was

 

1483

00:09:25,205 --> 00:09:25,405

[juliet_hahn]: hard

 

1484

00:09:25,532 --> 00:09:25,612

[maggie]: one

 

1485

00:09:25,585 --> 00:09:25,686

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

1486

00:09:25,652 --> 00:09:25,993

[maggie]: of the things

 

1487

00:09:25,886 --> 00:09:26,106

[juliet_hahn]: really

 

1488

00:09:26,013 --> 00:09:26,233

[maggie]: that was

 

1489

00:09:26,227 --> 00:09:26,447

[juliet_hahn]: early

 

1490

00:09:26,333 --> 00:09:26,574

[maggie]: really

 

1491

00:09:26,607 --> 00:09:26,687

[juliet_hahn]: on

 

1492

00:09:26,634 --> 00:09:26,814

[maggie]: hard

 

1493

00:09:26,787 --> 00:09:27,388

[juliet_hahn]: i realized

 

1494

00:09:27,014 --> 00:09:28,838

[maggie]: and really early on i realized

 

1495

00:09:28,390 --> 00:09:30,353

[juliet_hahn]: i don't why don't i understand

 

1496

00:09:29,799 --> 00:09:30,100

[maggie]: i don't

 

1497

00:09:30,414 --> 00:09:30,534

[juliet_hahn]: when

 

1498

00:09:30,420 --> 00:09:30,560

[maggie]: why

 

1499

00:09:30,634 --> 00:09:30,894

[juliet_hahn]: everyone

 

1500

00:09:30,661 --> 00:09:30,821

[maggie]: don't

 

1501

00:09:30,934 --> 00:09:31,055

[juliet_hahn]: else

 

1502

00:09:30,981 --> 00:09:31,021

[maggie]: i

 

1503

00:09:31,095 --> 00:09:31,195

[juliet_hahn]: just

 

1504

00:09:31,161 --> 00:09:31,782

[maggie]: understand

 

1505

00:09:31,355 --> 00:09:31,876

[juliet_hahn]: like i would

 

1506

00:09:31,843 --> 00:09:31,943

[maggie]: when

 

1507

00:09:31,896 --> 00:09:32,016

[juliet_hahn]: look

 

1508

00:09:32,023 --> 00:09:32,283

[maggie]: every

 

1509

00:09:32,036 --> 00:09:32,497

[juliet_hahn]: at my friend and

 

1510

00:09:32,444 --> 00:09:32,644

[maggie]: s just

 

1511

00:09:32,537 --> 00:09:32,818

[juliet_hahn]: be like what

 

1512

00:09:32,764 --> 00:09:33,445

[maggie]: like i would look

 

1513

00:09:33,378 --> 00:09:33,479

[juliet_hahn]: what

 

1514

00:09:33,465 --> 00:09:33,505

[maggie]: at

 

1515

00:09:33,499 --> 00:09:33,579

[juliet_hahn]: are

 

1516

00:09:33,565 --> 00:09:33,626

[maggie]: my

 

1517

00:09:33,599 --> 00:09:33,659

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

1518

00:09:33,686 --> 00:09:33,826

[maggie]: friend

 

1519

00:09:33,719 --> 00:09:33,979

[juliet_hahn]: writing

 

1520

00:09:33,866 --> 00:09:34,667

[maggie]: and be like what

 

1521

00:09:34,781 --> 00:09:35,061

[juliet_hahn]: i'm doing

 

1522

00:09:34,928 --> 00:09:35,068

[maggie]: are you

 

1523

00:09:35,081 --> 00:09:35,181

[juliet_hahn]: the

 

1524

00:09:35,128 --> 00:09:35,368

[maggie]: writing

 

1525

00:09:35,222 --> 00:09:35,823

[juliet_hahn]: assignment i'm like

 

1526

00:09:36,130 --> 00:09:36,430

[maggie]: i'm doing

 

1527

00:09:36,404 --> 00:09:36,524

[juliet_hahn]: what

 

1528

00:09:36,450 --> 00:09:36,891

[maggie]: this sinon

 

1529

00:09:36,864 --> 00:09:37,085

[juliet_hahn]: i don't

 

1530

00:09:36,951 --> 00:09:37,151

[maggie]: i'm like

 

1531

00:09:37,125 --> 00:09:38,207

[juliet_hahn]: understand so

 

1532

00:09:38,213 --> 00:09:38,413

[maggie]: i don't

 

1533

00:09:38,367 --> 00:09:38,607

[juliet_hahn]: i think

 

1534

00:09:38,474 --> 00:09:38,854

[maggie]: understand

 

1535

00:09:38,747 --> 00:09:39,509

[juliet_hahn]: that again as you

 

1536

00:09:39,455 --> 00:09:39,575

[maggie]: so

 

1537

00:09:39,569 --> 00:09:39,709

[juliet_hahn]: said

 

1538

00:09:39,696 --> 00:09:39,956

[maggie]: i think

 

1539

00:09:40,010 --> 00:09:40,170

[juliet_hahn]: that's

 

1540

00:09:40,076 --> 00:09:40,216

[maggie]: that

 

1541

00:09:40,210 --> 00:09:40,330

[juliet_hahn]: going

 

1542

00:09:40,297 --> 00:09:40,517

[maggie]: again

 

1543

00:09:40,370 --> 00:09:40,570

[juliet_hahn]: to bring

 

1544

00:09:40,617 --> 00:09:40,677

[maggie]: as

 

1545

00:09:40,670 --> 00:09:40,830

[juliet_hahn]: some

 

1546

00:09:40,737 --> 00:09:40,838

[maggie]: you

 

1547

00:09:40,890 --> 00:09:41,091

[juliet_hahn]: level

 

1548

00:09:40,898 --> 00:09:41,038

[maggie]: said

 

1549

00:09:41,251 --> 00:09:41,291

[juliet_hahn]: of

 

1550

00:09:41,298 --> 00:09:41,419

[maggie]: that

 

1551

00:09:41,431 --> 00:09:41,851

[juliet_hahn]: anxiety

 

1552

00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:41,859

[maggie]: going to bring

 

1553

00:09:41,932 --> 00:09:42,172

[juliet_hahn]: whether

 

1554

00:09:41,959 --> 00:09:42,380

[maggie]: some level

 

1555

00:09:42,252 --> 00:09:42,592

[juliet_hahn]: you even

 

1556

00:09:42,540 --> 00:09:42,600

[maggie]: of

 

1557

00:09:42,692 --> 00:09:42,913

[juliet_hahn]: have

 

1558

00:09:42,721 --> 00:09:43,161

[maggie]: anxiety

 

1559

00:09:42,953 --> 00:09:43,493

[juliet_hahn]: an anxiety

 

1560

00:09:43,222 --> 00:09:43,622

[maggie]: whether you

 

1561

00:09:43,573 --> 00:09:43,954

[juliet_hahn]: disorder

 

1562

00:09:43,742 --> 00:09:44,203

[maggie]: even have

 

1563

00:09:44,074 --> 00:09:44,314

[juliet_hahn]: or your

 

1564

00:09:44,263 --> 00:09:44,784

[maggie]: an anxiety

 

1565

00:09:44,715 --> 00:09:45,355

[juliet_hahn]: predesitione

 

1566

00:09:44,864 --> 00:09:45,585

[maggie]: disorder or your

 

1567

00:09:45,616 --> 00:09:46,316

[juliet_hahn]: for anxiety

 

1568

00:09:45,986 --> 00:09:46,787

[maggie]: predeseset

 

1569

00:09:46,356 --> 00:09:47,037

[juliet_hahn]: you're going to have some

 

1570

00:09:47,008 --> 00:09:47,088

[maggie]: or

 

1571

00:09:47,117 --> 00:09:47,257

[juliet_hahn]: sort

 

1572

00:09:47,208 --> 00:09:47,589

[maggie]: anxiety

 

1573

00:09:47,297 --> 00:09:47,698

[juliet_hahn]: of level of

 

1574

00:09:47,649 --> 00:09:47,809

[maggie]: you're

 

1575

00:09:47,758 --> 00:09:48,178

[juliet_hahn]: anxiety

 

1576

00:09:47,829 --> 00:09:48,330

[maggie]: going to have some

 

1577

00:09:48,278 --> 00:09:48,378

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

1578

00:09:48,410 --> 00:09:51,275

[maggie]: sort of level yeah you don't work

the way the rest of the world does

 

1579

00:09:51,335 --> 00:09:53,419

[maggie]: and i'm still like that with computers

pretty much

 

1580

00:09:53,633 --> 00:09:53,875

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

1581

00:09:53,739 --> 00:09:59,148

[maggie]: so you know that is a thing

left over i don't i don't understand what

 

1582

00:09:59,188 --> 00:10:00,450

[maggie]: the rest of the world understands

 

1583

00:09:59,950 --> 00:10:02,034

[juliet_hahn]: right we just we just learned different

well thank

 

1584

00:10:02,013 --> 00:10:02,053

[maggie]: we

 

1585

00:10:02,074 --> 00:10:02,134

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

1586

00:10:02,133 --> 00:10:02,233

[maggie]: just

 

1587

00:10:02,194 --> 00:10:02,274

[juliet_hahn]: for

 

1588

00:10:02,293 --> 00:10:02,353

[maggie]: we

 

1589

00:10:02,334 --> 00:10:02,615

[juliet_hahn]: sharing

 

1590

00:10:02,434 --> 00:10:02,754

[maggie]: just learned

 

1591

00:10:02,655 --> 00:10:02,795

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

1592

00:10:02,794 --> 00:10:03,175

[maggie]: dfentwell

 

1593

00:10:02,895 --> 00:10:02,955

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

1594

00:10:03,215 --> 00:10:03,455

[maggie]: thank you

 

1595

00:10:03,476 --> 00:10:03,677

[juliet_hahn]: abby

 

1596

00:10:03,495 --> 00:10:03,916

[maggie]: for sharing

 

1597

00:10:03,797 --> 00:10:03,997

[juliet_hahn]: i would

 

1598

00:10:03,976 --> 00:10:04,116

[maggie]: that

 

1599

00:10:04,037 --> 00:10:04,298

[juliet_hahn]: love for

 

1600

00:10:04,237 --> 00:10:04,277

[maggie]: an

 

1601

00:10:04,358 --> 00:10:04,839

[juliet_hahn]: you to give us

 

1602

00:10:04,797 --> 00:10:04,978

[maggie]: abbey

 

1603

00:10:04,899 --> 00:10:05,159

[juliet_hahn]: a little

 

1604

00:10:05,118 --> 00:10:05,138

[maggie]: i

 

1605

00:10:05,179 --> 00:10:05,640

[juliet_hahn]: background

 

1606

00:10:05,198 --> 00:10:06,000

[maggie]: would love for you to give

 

1607

00:10:05,940 --> 00:10:06,041

[juliet_hahn]: of

 

1608

00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:06,201

[maggie]: us a

 

1609

00:10:06,201 --> 00:10:06,341

[juliet_hahn]: your

 

1610

00:10:06,241 --> 00:10:06,923

[maggie]: little background

 

1611

00:10:06,561 --> 00:10:07,223

[juliet_hahn]: upbringing and you

 

1612

00:10:07,223 --> 00:10:07,344

[maggie]: of

 

1613

00:10:07,363 --> 00:10:07,483

[juliet_hahn]: kind

 

1614

00:10:07,484 --> 00:10:07,625

[maggie]: your

 

1615

00:10:07,523 --> 00:10:07,784

[juliet_hahn]: of where

 

1616

00:10:07,825 --> 00:10:08,487

[maggie]: upbringing and you

 

1617

00:10:08,525 --> 00:10:08,765

[juliet_hahn]: your

 

1618

00:10:08,647 --> 00:10:09,109

[maggie]: kind of where

 

1619

00:10:08,925 --> 00:10:09,767

[juliet_hahn]: journey took you

 

1620

00:10:09,810 --> 00:10:10,031

[maggie]: your

 

1621

00:10:09,827 --> 00:10:10,328

[juliet_hahn]: to university

 

1622

00:10:10,192 --> 00:10:10,512

[maggie]: journey

 

1623

00:10:10,368 --> 00:10:10,909

[juliet_hahn]: of pennsylvania

 

1624

00:10:10,753 --> 00:10:12,217

[maggie]: took you to university of pennsylvania

 

1625

00:10:13,142 --> 00:10:13,983

[abbe_greenberg]: i grew up in south

 

1626

00:10:13,870 --> 00:10:14,131

[maggie]: i grew

 

1627

00:10:14,083 --> 00:10:14,464

[abbe_greenberg]: florida

 

1628

00:10:14,171 --> 00:10:15,176

[maggie]: up in south florida

 

1629

00:10:15,365 --> 00:10:16,547

[abbe_greenberg]: in town called hollywood

 

1630

00:10:16,070 --> 00:10:17,275

[maggie]: a town called hollywood

 

1631

00:10:17,449 --> 00:10:17,809

[abbe_greenberg]: and

 

1632

00:10:17,610 --> 00:10:18,720

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1633

00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:18,501

[maggie]: and

 

1634

00:10:19,652 --> 00:10:20,193

[abbe_greenberg]: my first

 

1635

00:10:20,619 --> 00:10:20,919

[maggie]: first

 

1636

00:10:20,694 --> 00:10:21,355

[abbe_greenberg]: recollection of

 

1637

00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:21,921

[maggie]: recollection

 

1638

00:10:21,415 --> 00:10:22,056

[abbe_greenberg]: anxiety

 

1639

00:10:21,420 --> 00:10:21,844

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

1640

00:10:22,021 --> 00:10:22,783

[maggie]: of anxiety

 

1641

00:10:22,517 --> 00:10:23,359

[abbe_greenberg]: would be when i was

 

1642

00:10:23,283 --> 00:10:23,404

[maggie]: would

 

1643

00:10:23,379 --> 00:10:23,780

[abbe_greenberg]: about five

 

1644

00:10:23,644 --> 00:10:23,724

[maggie]: be

 

1645

00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:24,000

[abbe_greenberg]: years

 

1646

00:10:23,824 --> 00:10:24,085

[maggie]: when i was

 

1647

00:10:24,060 --> 00:10:24,220

[abbe_greenberg]: old

 

1648

00:10:24,105 --> 00:10:24,906

[maggie]: about five years old

 

1649

00:10:25,230 --> 00:10:25,512

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1650

00:10:25,392 --> 00:10:26,273

[abbe_greenberg]: when ever

 

1651

00:10:26,148 --> 00:10:26,369

[maggie]: when

 

1652

00:10:26,593 --> 00:10:27,034

[abbe_greenberg]: my family

 

1653

00:10:26,829 --> 00:10:27,050

[maggie]: ever

 

1654

00:10:27,054 --> 00:10:27,514

[abbe_greenberg]: would be going

 

1655

00:10:27,350 --> 00:10:27,771

[maggie]: my family

 

1656

00:10:27,575 --> 00:10:27,835

[abbe_greenberg]: somewhere

 

1657

00:10:27,811 --> 00:10:27,931

[maggie]: would

 

1658

00:10:27,875 --> 00:10:28,035

[abbe_greenberg]: in the

 

1659

00:10:27,971 --> 00:10:28,252

[maggie]: be going

 

1660

00:10:28,095 --> 00:10:28,376

[abbe_greenberg]: car

 

1661

00:10:28,332 --> 00:10:29,113

[maggie]: somewhere in the car

 

1662

00:10:28,896 --> 00:10:29,637

[abbe_greenberg]: i would run out

 

1663

00:10:29,654 --> 00:10:29,674

[maggie]: i

 

1664

00:10:29,677 --> 00:10:29,737

[abbe_greenberg]: to

 

1665

00:10:29,754 --> 00:10:29,874

[maggie]: would

 

1666

00:10:29,777 --> 00:10:30,218

[abbe_greenberg]: the garage

 

1667

00:10:30,075 --> 00:10:30,375

[maggie]: run out

 

1668

00:10:30,298 --> 00:10:30,579

[abbe_greenberg]: before

 

1669

00:10:30,435 --> 00:10:30,996

[maggie]: to the garage

 

1670

00:10:30,639 --> 00:10:31,179

[abbe_greenberg]: anybody else

 

1671

00:10:31,056 --> 00:10:31,697

[maggie]: before anybody

 

1672

00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:31,900

[abbe_greenberg]: was even

 

1673

00:10:31,798 --> 00:10:31,958

[maggie]: else

 

1674

00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:32,301

[abbe_greenberg]: awake

 

1675

00:10:32,501 --> 00:10:32,664

[maggie]: even

 

1676

00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:33,690

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1677

00:10:32,765 --> 00:10:32,989

[maggie]: wait

 

1678

00:10:32,942 --> 00:10:33,585

[abbe_greenberg]: i would tack

 

1679

00:10:33,689 --> 00:10:33,891

[maggie]: i would

 

1680

00:10:33,805 --> 00:10:34,067

[abbe_greenberg]: all the

 

1681

00:10:34,052 --> 00:10:34,314

[maggie]: tack

 

1682

00:10:34,127 --> 00:10:34,609

[abbe_greenberg]: tires

 

1683

00:10:34,556 --> 00:10:35,363

[maggie]: all the tires

 

1684

00:10:36,390 --> 00:10:36,510

[juliet_hahn]: ye

 

1685

00:10:36,452 --> 00:10:37,192

[abbe_greenberg]: had like a ritual

 

1686

00:10:37,129 --> 00:10:37,309

[maggie]: i had

 

1687

00:10:37,252 --> 00:10:37,453

[abbe_greenberg]: going

 

1688

00:10:37,369 --> 00:10:37,469

[maggie]: like

 

1689

00:10:37,415 --> 00:10:37,636

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

1690

00:10:37,509 --> 00:10:37,530

[maggie]: a

 

1691

00:10:37,553 --> 00:10:37,653

[abbe_greenberg]: on

 

1692

00:10:37,610 --> 00:10:37,950

[maggie]: ritual

 

1693

00:10:37,833 --> 00:10:38,053

[abbe_greenberg]: where

 

1694

00:10:38,010 --> 00:10:38,411

[maggie]: going on

 

1695

00:10:38,434 --> 00:10:38,614

[abbe_greenberg]: half

 

1696

00:10:38,592 --> 00:10:38,752

[maggie]: where

 

1697

00:10:38,674 --> 00:10:39,274

[abbe_greenberg]: the tires

 

1698

00:10:39,313 --> 00:10:39,393

[maggie]: at

 

1699

00:10:39,394 --> 00:10:39,475

[abbe_greenberg]: one

 

1700

00:10:39,453 --> 00:10:39,533

[maggie]: the

 

1701

00:10:39,495 --> 00:10:39,555

[abbe_greenberg]: it

 

1702

00:10:39,573 --> 00:10:40,054

[maggie]: tires

 

1703

00:10:39,575 --> 00:10:39,775

[abbe_greenberg]: would be

 

1704

00:10:39,810 --> 00:10:40,032

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1705

00:10:39,835 --> 00:10:40,135

[abbe_greenberg]: a safe

 

1706

00:10:40,094 --> 00:10:40,195

[maggie]: then

 

1707

00:10:40,235 --> 00:10:40,375

[abbe_greenberg]: trip

 

1708

00:10:40,255 --> 00:10:40,455

[maggie]: it would

 

1709

00:10:40,456 --> 00:10:40,536

[abbe_greenberg]: for

 

1710

00:10:40,495 --> 00:10:40,555

[maggie]: be

 

1711

00:10:40,576 --> 00:10:40,656

[abbe_greenberg]: the

 

1712

00:10:40,595 --> 00:10:40,896

[maggie]: a safe

 

1713

00:10:40,716 --> 00:10:41,016

[abbe_greenberg]: family

 

1714

00:10:40,976 --> 00:10:41,758

[maggie]: trip for the family

 

1715

00:10:41,497 --> 00:10:42,277

[abbe_greenberg]: and it got to the point where

 

1716

00:10:42,369 --> 00:10:42,569

[maggie]: i got

 

1717

00:10:42,538 --> 00:10:42,558

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

1718

00:10:42,609 --> 00:10:42,730

[maggie]: to the

 

1719

00:10:42,758 --> 00:10:43,178

[abbe_greenberg]: literally

 

1720

00:10:42,890 --> 00:10:43,331

[maggie]: where i

 

1721

00:10:43,338 --> 00:10:43,679

[abbe_greenberg]: couldn't

 

1722

00:10:43,491 --> 00:10:43,932

[maggie]: literally

 

1723

00:10:43,859 --> 00:10:44,079

[abbe_greenberg]: get in

 

1724

00:10:44,112 --> 00:10:44,433

[maggie]: couldn't

 

1725

00:10:44,130 --> 00:10:44,495

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

1726

00:10:44,159 --> 00:10:44,480

[abbe_greenberg]: a car

 

1727

00:10:44,613 --> 00:10:44,713

[maggie]: get

 

1728

00:10:44,660 --> 00:10:44,780

[abbe_greenberg]: that

 

1729

00:10:44,794 --> 00:10:44,834

[maggie]: in

 

1730

00:10:44,820 --> 00:10:45,080

[abbe_greenberg]: i didn't

 

1731

00:10:44,894 --> 00:10:45,194

[maggie]: a car

 

1732

00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:45,420

[abbe_greenberg]: tap the

 

1733

00:10:45,415 --> 00:10:45,515

[maggie]: that

 

1734

00:10:45,460 --> 00:10:45,901

[abbe_greenberg]: tires

 

1735

00:10:45,555 --> 00:10:46,657

[maggie]: i didn't have tires

 

1736

00:10:46,952 --> 00:10:47,654

[abbe_greenberg]: so that was

 

1737

00:10:47,709 --> 00:10:47,809

[maggie]: so

 

1738

00:10:47,714 --> 00:10:48,216

[abbe_greenberg]: the beginning

 

1739

00:10:48,089 --> 00:10:48,249

[maggie]: that

 

1740

00:10:48,101 --> 00:10:48,202

[juliet_hahn]: ah

 

1741

00:10:48,256 --> 00:10:48,316

[abbe_greenberg]: of

 

1742

00:10:48,290 --> 00:10:48,430

[maggie]: was

 

1743

00:10:48,376 --> 00:10:48,457

[abbe_greenberg]: my

 

1744

00:10:48,470 --> 00:10:48,550

[maggie]: the

 

1745

00:10:48,517 --> 00:10:48,898

[abbe_greenberg]: obsessive

 

1746

00:10:48,630 --> 00:10:48,971

[maggie]: beginning

 

1747

00:10:48,938 --> 00:10:49,339

[abbe_greenberg]: compulsive

 

1748

00:10:49,011 --> 00:10:49,652

[maggie]: of my obsessive

 

1749

00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:49,721

[abbe_greenberg]: disorder

 

1750

00:10:49,692 --> 00:10:50,092

[maggie]: compulsive

 

1751

00:10:49,801 --> 00:10:50,122

[abbe_greenberg]: although i

 

1752

00:10:50,132 --> 00:10:50,473

[maggie]: disorder

 

1753

00:10:50,182 --> 00:10:50,463

[abbe_greenberg]: was not

 

1754

00:10:50,553 --> 00:10:50,774

[maggie]: although

 

1755

00:10:50,603 --> 00:10:51,045

[abbe_greenberg]: formally

 

1756

00:10:50,834 --> 00:10:51,214

[maggie]: i was not

 

1757

00:10:51,105 --> 00:10:51,607

[abbe_greenberg]: diagnosed

 

1758

00:10:51,354 --> 00:10:51,795

[maggie]: formally

 

1759

00:10:51,647 --> 00:10:51,847

[abbe_greenberg]: until

 

1760

00:10:51,855 --> 00:10:52,356

[maggie]: diagnosed

 

1761

00:10:51,888 --> 00:10:52,409

[abbe_greenberg]: i was forty

 

1762

00:10:52,396 --> 00:10:52,596

[maggie]: until

 

1763

00:10:52,449 --> 00:10:52,470

[juliet_hahn]: m

 

1764

00:10:52,490 --> 00:10:52,650

[abbe_greenberg]: six

 

1765

00:10:52,636 --> 00:10:53,137

[maggie]: i was forty

 

1766

00:10:52,951 --> 00:10:53,114

[juliet_hahn]: wow

 

1767

00:10:53,237 --> 00:10:53,398

[maggie]: six

 

1768

00:10:54,212 --> 00:10:54,272

[abbe_greenberg]: it

 

1769

00:10:54,249 --> 00:10:54,389

[maggie]: wow

 

1770

00:10:54,312 --> 00:10:54,833

[abbe_greenberg]: was a lot

 

1771

00:10:54,730 --> 00:10:54,810

[maggie]: so

 

1772

00:10:54,933 --> 00:10:55,013

[abbe_greenberg]: of

 

1773

00:10:54,970 --> 00:10:55,171

[maggie]: it was

 

1774

00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:55,346

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1775

00:10:55,231 --> 00:10:55,752

[maggie]: a lot of

 

1776

00:10:56,010 --> 00:10:56,192

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1777

00:10:56,616 --> 00:10:57,237

[abbe_greenberg]: suffering in

 

1778

00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:57,900

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1779

00:10:57,277 --> 00:10:57,658

[abbe_greenberg]: between

 

1780

00:10:57,375 --> 00:10:58,398

[maggie]: suffering between

 

1781

00:10:58,259 --> 00:10:59,060

[abbe_greenberg]: my first memories

 

1782

00:10:59,019 --> 00:10:59,319

[maggie]: my first

 

1783

00:10:59,160 --> 00:10:59,240

[abbe_greenberg]: of

 

1784

00:10:59,400 --> 00:10:59,841

[maggie]: memories

 

1785

00:10:59,421 --> 00:10:59,841

[abbe_greenberg]: obsessive

 

1786

00:10:59,921 --> 00:10:59,981

[maggie]: of

 

1787

00:10:59,961 --> 00:11:00,282

[abbe_greenberg]: obsessive

 

1788

00:11:00,241 --> 00:11:00,582

[maggie]: obsession

 

1789

00:11:00,322 --> 00:11:01,043

[abbe_greenberg]: compulsive behavior

 

1790

00:11:00,900 --> 00:11:01,162

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

1791

00:11:00,943 --> 00:11:01,524

[maggie]: essie compulsive

 

1792

00:11:01,264 --> 00:11:01,384

[abbe_greenberg]: and

 

1793

00:11:01,564 --> 00:11:01,865

[maggie]: behavior

 

1794

00:11:01,664 --> 00:11:01,845

[abbe_greenberg]: when

 

1795

00:11:02,125 --> 00:11:02,707

[maggie]: and when

 

1796

00:11:02,666 --> 00:11:04,068

[abbe_greenberg]: a very gifted psychiatrist finally

 

1797

00:11:03,829 --> 00:11:04,089

[maggie]: if it's

 

1798

00:11:04,088 --> 00:11:04,208

[abbe_greenberg]: said

 

1799

00:11:04,129 --> 00:11:04,230

[maggie]: like

 

1800

00:11:04,249 --> 00:11:04,309

[abbe_greenberg]: to

 

1801

00:11:04,290 --> 00:11:04,630

[maggie]: hydras

 

1802

00:11:04,329 --> 00:11:04,629

[abbe_greenberg]: me you know

 

1803

00:11:04,650 --> 00:11:05,031

[maggie]: finally said

 

1804

00:11:04,950 --> 00:11:05,250

[abbe_greenberg]: i don't

 

1805

00:11:05,071 --> 00:11:05,191

[maggie]: to me

 

1806

00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:06,060

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1807

00:11:05,310 --> 00:11:05,491

[abbe_greenberg]: think

 

1808

00:11:05,331 --> 00:11:05,452

[maggie]: now

 

1809

00:11:05,591 --> 00:11:06,352

[abbe_greenberg]: panic order

 

1810

00:11:06,213 --> 00:11:06,273

[maggie]: in

 

1811

00:11:06,413 --> 00:11:06,854

[abbe_greenberg]: is your main

 

1812

00:11:06,794 --> 00:11:07,174

[maggie]: disorder

 

1813

00:11:06,974 --> 00:11:07,355

[abbe_greenberg]: problem

 

1814

00:11:07,235 --> 00:11:07,295

[maggie]: is

 

1815

00:11:07,291 --> 00:11:07,411

[juliet_hahn]: it

 

1816

00:11:07,335 --> 00:11:07,695

[maggie]: your main

 

1817

00:11:08,112 --> 00:11:09,474

[juliet_hahn]: well and it's so interesting that you

said that

 

1818

00:11:09,458 --> 00:11:09,578

[maggie]: well

 

1819

00:11:09,494 --> 00:11:09,655

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

1820

00:11:09,639 --> 00:11:09,699

[maggie]: and

 

1821

00:11:09,675 --> 00:11:09,755

[juliet_hahn]: when

 

1822

00:11:09,759 --> 00:11:09,839

[maggie]: it's

 

1823

00:11:09,795 --> 00:11:09,855

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

1824

00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:09,939

[maggie]: so

 

1825

00:11:09,895 --> 00:11:10,015

[juliet_hahn]: said

 

1826

00:11:10,019 --> 00:11:10,340

[maggie]: interesting

 

1827

00:11:10,035 --> 00:11:10,396

[juliet_hahn]: that i was like

 

1828

00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:10,440

[maggie]: that

 

1829

00:11:10,436 --> 00:11:10,496

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

1830

00:11:10,460 --> 00:11:10,540

[maggie]: you

 

1831

00:11:10,536 --> 00:11:10,696

[juliet_hahn]: that's

 

1832

00:11:10,580 --> 00:11:10,961

[maggie]: said that because

 

1833

00:11:10,857 --> 00:11:11,197

[juliet_hahn]: sensitive

 

1834

00:11:10,981 --> 00:11:11,341

[maggie]: when you said

 

1835

00:11:11,257 --> 00:11:11,738

[juliet_hahn]: compulsive

 

1836

00:11:11,361 --> 00:11:12,023

[maggie]: that i was like oh that's

 

1837

00:11:12,119 --> 00:11:12,600

[juliet_hahn]: and i'm not a

 

1838

00:11:12,563 --> 00:11:13,024

[maggie]: compulsive

 

1839

00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:12,980

[juliet_hahn]: doctor

 

1840

00:11:12,662 --> 00:11:12,786

[abbe_greenberg]: yep

 

1841

00:11:13,060 --> 00:11:13,481

[juliet_hahn]: but it's just

 

1842

00:11:13,445 --> 00:11:13,545

[maggie]: and

 

1843

00:11:13,521 --> 00:11:13,601

[juliet_hahn]: one

 

1844

00:11:13,605 --> 00:11:13,685

[maggie]: i'm

 

1845

00:11:13,621 --> 00:11:13,842

[juliet_hahn]: of those

 

1846

00:11:13,745 --> 00:11:13,826

[maggie]: not

 

1847

00:11:13,862 --> 00:11:14,022

[juliet_hahn]: things

 

1848

00:11:13,886 --> 00:11:14,306

[maggie]: a doctor

 

1849

00:11:14,062 --> 00:11:14,302

[juliet_hahn]: that you

 

1850

00:11:14,386 --> 00:11:14,467

[maggie]: but

 

1851

00:11:14,423 --> 00:11:14,583

[juliet_hahn]: see

 

1852

00:11:14,527 --> 00:11:15,168

[maggie]: it's just one of those

 

1853

00:11:15,064 --> 00:11:15,284

[juliet_hahn]: you know

 

1854

00:11:15,188 --> 00:11:15,348

[maggie]: things

 

1855

00:11:15,384 --> 00:11:15,524

[juliet_hahn]: when

 

1856

00:11:15,388 --> 00:11:15,869

[maggie]: that you see

 

1857

00:11:16,306 --> 00:11:16,466

[juliet_hahn]: i've

 

1858

00:11:16,370 --> 00:11:16,590

[maggie]: you know

 

1859

00:11:16,586 --> 00:11:16,726

[juliet_hahn]: been

 

1860

00:11:16,690 --> 00:11:16,851

[maggie]: when

 

1861

00:11:16,766 --> 00:11:17,908

[juliet_hahn]: around children

 

1862

00:11:17,612 --> 00:11:18,433

[maggie]: i've been around

 

1863

00:11:18,129 --> 00:11:18,890

[juliet_hahn]: not my and but

 

1864

00:11:18,814 --> 00:11:19,235

[maggie]: children

 

1865

00:11:18,990 --> 00:11:19,571

[juliet_hahn]: other children

 

1866

00:11:19,435 --> 00:11:20,036

[maggie]: not my own

 

1867

00:11:19,932 --> 00:11:20,433

[juliet_hahn]: in family

 

1868

00:11:20,116 --> 00:11:20,477

[maggie]: but other

 

1869

00:11:20,473 --> 00:11:20,653

[juliet_hahn]: where

 

1870

00:11:20,557 --> 00:11:20,877

[maggie]: children

 

1871

00:11:20,873 --> 00:11:21,354

[juliet_hahn]: you know they would

 

1872

00:11:21,238 --> 00:11:21,298

[maggie]: and

 

1873

00:11:21,414 --> 00:11:21,514

[juliet_hahn]: have

 

1874

00:11:21,418 --> 00:11:21,759

[maggie]: family

 

1875

00:11:21,575 --> 00:11:21,915

[juliet_hahn]: to tap

 

1876

00:11:21,799 --> 00:11:21,959

[maggie]: where

 

1877

00:11:22,015 --> 00:11:22,216

[juliet_hahn]: things

 

1878

00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:22,280

[maggie]: you

 

1879

00:11:22,256 --> 00:11:22,316

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

1880

00:11:22,300 --> 00:11:22,400

[maggie]: know

 

1881

00:11:22,356 --> 00:11:22,436

[juliet_hahn]: i'd

 

1882

00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:22,520

[maggie]: they

 

1883

00:11:22,476 --> 00:11:22,656

[juliet_hahn]: be like

 

1884

00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:22,841

[maggie]: would have

 

1885

00:11:22,817 --> 00:11:22,917

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

1886

00:11:22,901 --> 00:11:22,961

[maggie]: to

 

1887

00:11:22,997 --> 00:11:23,057

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

1888

00:11:23,021 --> 00:11:23,241

[maggie]: tap

 

1889

00:11:23,097 --> 00:11:23,337

[juliet_hahn]: know i would

 

1890

00:11:23,341 --> 00:11:23,542

[maggie]: things

 

1891

00:11:23,357 --> 00:11:23,538

[juliet_hahn]: say the

 

1892

00:11:23,562 --> 00:11:23,622

[maggie]: and

 

1893

00:11:23,598 --> 00:11:23,738

[juliet_hahn]: parent

 

1894

00:11:23,662 --> 00:11:23,842

[maggie]: i'd be

 

1895

00:11:23,858 --> 00:11:23,898

[juliet_hahn]: at

 

1896

00:11:23,882 --> 00:11:23,982

[maggie]: like

 

1897

00:11:23,918 --> 00:11:24,159

[juliet_hahn]: an they're

 

1898

00:11:24,143 --> 00:11:24,243

[maggie]: oh

 

1899

00:11:24,179 --> 00:11:24,259

[juliet_hahn]: like

 

1900

00:11:24,323 --> 00:11:24,383

[maggie]: you

 

1901

00:11:24,339 --> 00:11:24,439

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

1902

00:11:24,423 --> 00:11:24,764

[maggie]: know i would say

 

1903

00:11:24,740 --> 00:11:24,840

[juliet_hahn]: it's

 

1904

00:11:24,784 --> 00:11:24,844

[maggie]: the

 

1905

00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:25,040

[juliet_hahn]: their

 

1906

00:11:24,924 --> 00:11:25,044

[maggie]: part

 

1907

00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:25,501

[juliet_hahn]: obsessive

 

1908

00:11:25,265 --> 00:11:25,585

[maggie]: an they're like

 

1909

00:11:25,541 --> 00:11:26,182

[juliet_hahn]: compulsion they have

 

1910

00:11:26,226 --> 00:11:26,407

[maggie]: they're

 

1911

00:11:26,242 --> 00:11:26,503

[juliet_hahn]: to touch

 

1912

00:11:26,447 --> 00:11:27,208

[maggie]: obsessive compulsion

 

1913

00:11:26,963 --> 00:11:27,224

[juliet_hahn]: five

 

1914

00:11:27,268 --> 00:11:27,368

[maggie]: they

 

1915

00:11:27,284 --> 00:11:27,524

[juliet_hahn]: things

 

1916

00:11:27,408 --> 00:11:27,568

[maggie]: have to

 

1917

00:11:27,625 --> 00:11:27,845

[juliet_hahn]: before

 

1918

00:11:27,649 --> 00:11:27,829

[maggie]: touch

 

1919

00:11:27,885 --> 00:11:28,306

[juliet_hahn]: they can do

 

1920

00:11:28,269 --> 00:11:28,530

[maggie]: five

 

1921

00:11:28,366 --> 00:11:28,586

[juliet_hahn]: things

 

1922

00:11:28,590 --> 00:11:28,850

[maggie]: things

 

1923

00:11:28,646 --> 00:11:28,706

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

1924

00:11:28,930 --> 00:11:29,151

[maggie]: before

 

1925

00:11:29,107 --> 00:11:29,147

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

1926

00:11:29,191 --> 00:11:29,311

[maggie]: they

 

1927

00:11:29,247 --> 00:11:29,468

[juliet_hahn]: always

 

1928

00:11:29,351 --> 00:11:29,591

[maggie]: can do

 

1929

00:11:29,528 --> 00:11:29,648

[juliet_hahn]: would

 

1930

00:11:29,671 --> 00:11:29,871

[maggie]: things

 

1931

00:11:29,708 --> 00:11:29,908

[juliet_hahn]: think

 

1932

00:11:29,952 --> 00:11:31,213

[maggie]: and i always would think

 

1933

00:11:31,051 --> 00:11:31,893

[juliet_hahn]: all right you know what

 

1934

00:11:31,834 --> 00:11:31,974

[maggie]: wow

 

1935

00:11:32,054 --> 00:11:32,254

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

1936

00:11:32,355 --> 00:11:32,475

[maggie]: all

 

1937

00:11:32,455 --> 00:11:32,555

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

1938

00:11:32,535 --> 00:11:32,715

[maggie]: right

 

1939

00:11:32,595 --> 00:11:32,716

[juliet_hahn]: has

 

1940

00:11:32,735 --> 00:11:32,815

[maggie]: you

 

1941

00:11:32,736 --> 00:11:32,876

[juliet_hahn]: to be

 

1942

00:11:32,855 --> 00:11:32,975

[maggie]: know

 

1943

00:11:32,916 --> 00:11:33,458

[juliet_hahn]: exhausting

 

1944

00:11:33,056 --> 00:11:34,778

[maggie]: what but that has to be exhausting

 

1945

00:11:35,602 --> 00:11:36,082

[abbe_greenberg]: it's currently

 

1946

00:11:36,150 --> 00:11:36,960

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1947

00:11:36,162 --> 00:11:36,223

[abbe_greenberg]: as

 

1948

00:11:36,239 --> 00:11:36,319

[maggie]: it

 

1949

00:11:36,283 --> 00:11:36,663

[abbe_greenberg]: an adult

 

1950

00:11:36,499 --> 00:11:36,840

[maggie]: certainly

 

1951

00:11:36,763 --> 00:11:36,803

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

1952

00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:36,980

[maggie]: as

 

1953

00:11:36,903 --> 00:11:37,164

[abbe_greenberg]: found

 

1954

00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:37,420

[maggie]: an adult

 

1955

00:11:37,384 --> 00:11:37,484

[abbe_greenberg]: my

 

1956

00:11:37,521 --> 00:11:37,561

[maggie]: i

 

1957

00:11:37,544 --> 00:11:37,925

[abbe_greenberg]: obsessions

 

1958

00:11:37,681 --> 00:11:37,901

[maggie]: found

 

1959

00:11:37,965 --> 00:11:38,586

[abbe_greenberg]: and compulsions

 

1960

00:11:38,181 --> 00:11:38,682

[maggie]: my obsessions

 

1961

00:11:38,580 --> 00:11:39,420

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

1962

00:11:38,646 --> 00:11:39,106

[abbe_greenberg]: exhausting

 

1963

00:11:38,722 --> 00:11:39,303

[maggie]: and convulsions

 

1964

00:11:39,146 --> 00:11:39,327

[abbe_greenberg]: i don't

 

1965

00:11:39,383 --> 00:11:39,844

[maggie]: exhausting

 

1966

00:11:39,407 --> 00:11:39,787

[abbe_greenberg]: remember

 

1967

00:11:39,884 --> 00:11:39,904

[maggie]: i

 

1968

00:11:39,887 --> 00:11:39,948

[abbe_greenberg]: as

 

1969

00:11:39,944 --> 00:11:40,064

[maggie]: don't

 

1970

00:11:40,008 --> 00:11:40,208

[abbe_greenberg]: a kid

 

1971

00:11:40,164 --> 00:11:40,525

[maggie]: remember

 

1972

00:11:40,268 --> 00:11:40,608

[abbe_greenberg]: if i did

 

1973

00:11:40,625 --> 00:11:40,705

[maggie]: as

 

1974

00:11:40,648 --> 00:11:40,749

[abbe_greenberg]: but

 

1975

00:11:40,745 --> 00:11:40,765

[maggie]: a

 

1976

00:11:40,789 --> 00:11:40,809

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

1977

00:11:40,805 --> 00:11:40,945

[maggie]: kid

 

1978

00:11:40,929 --> 00:11:41,009

[abbe_greenberg]: do

 

1979

00:11:41,025 --> 00:11:41,165

[maggie]: if i

 

1980

00:11:41,129 --> 00:11:41,389

[abbe_greenberg]: remember

 

1981

00:11:41,225 --> 00:11:41,486

[maggie]: did but

 

1982

00:11:41,430 --> 00:11:41,510

[abbe_greenberg]: that

 

1983

00:11:41,526 --> 00:11:41,546

[maggie]: i

 

1984

00:11:41,550 --> 00:11:41,590

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

1985

00:11:41,646 --> 00:11:41,826

[maggie]: don't

 

1986

00:11:41,650 --> 00:11:41,890

[abbe_greenberg]: kept it

 

1987

00:11:41,886 --> 00:11:42,127

[maggie]: remember

 

1988

00:11:41,930 --> 00:11:42,431

[abbe_greenberg]: to myself

 

1989

00:11:42,167 --> 00:11:43,148

[maggie]: that i kept to myself

 

1990

00:11:43,302 --> 00:11:44,143

[abbe_greenberg]: i was very quiet

 

1991

00:11:44,049 --> 00:11:44,189

[maggie]: i was

 

1992

00:11:44,183 --> 00:11:44,383

[abbe_greenberg]: about

 

1993

00:11:44,349 --> 00:11:44,549

[maggie]: very

 

1994

00:11:44,423 --> 00:11:44,483

[abbe_greenberg]: it

 

1995

00:11:44,630 --> 00:11:44,890

[maggie]: quiet

 

1996

00:11:44,884 --> 00:11:44,904

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

1997

00:11:44,930 --> 00:11:45,210

[maggie]: about it

 

1998

00:11:45,205 --> 00:11:45,665

[abbe_greenberg]: came from

 

1999

00:11:45,570 --> 00:11:45,939

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2000

00:11:45,706 --> 00:11:46,046

[abbe_greenberg]: a family

 

2001

00:11:45,972 --> 00:11:46,152

[maggie]: came

 

2002

00:11:46,086 --> 00:11:46,307

[abbe_greenberg]: of high

 

2003

00:11:46,292 --> 00:11:46,412

[maggie]: from

 

2004

00:11:46,347 --> 00:11:46,847

[abbe_greenberg]: achievers

 

2005

00:11:46,453 --> 00:11:46,873

[maggie]: a family of

 

2006

00:11:46,968 --> 00:11:47,689

[abbe_greenberg]: professionals

 

2007

00:11:47,174 --> 00:11:48,276

[maggie]: chiefs professional

 

2008

00:11:48,190 --> 00:11:49,191

[abbe_greenberg]: a lot of expectation

 

2009

00:11:49,017 --> 00:11:49,898

[maggie]: lo of expectation

 

2010

00:11:49,291 --> 00:11:49,953

[abbe_greenberg]: on us i mean

 

2011

00:11:50,018 --> 00:11:50,079

[maggie]: on

 

2012

00:11:50,033 --> 00:11:50,954

[abbe_greenberg]: my father was a military

 

2013

00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:51,100

[maggie]: my father

 

2014

00:11:51,014 --> 00:11:51,175

[abbe_greenberg]: guy

 

2015

00:11:51,140 --> 00:11:51,681

[maggie]: was a military

 

2016

00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:51,744

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

2017

00:11:51,395 --> 00:11:51,736

[abbe_greenberg]: and we had

 

2018

00:11:51,741 --> 00:11:51,902

[maggie]: guy

 

2019

00:11:51,756 --> 00:11:52,296

[abbe_greenberg]: a very close

 

2020

00:11:52,122 --> 00:11:52,362

[maggie]: and we

 

2021

00:11:52,337 --> 00:11:52,417

[abbe_greenberg]: and

 

2022

00:11:52,402 --> 00:11:52,483

[maggie]: had

 

2023

00:11:52,457 --> 00:11:52,677

[abbe_greenberg]: loving

 

2024

00:11:52,503 --> 00:11:52,683

[maggie]: a very

 

2025

00:11:52,757 --> 00:11:53,018

[abbe_greenberg]: family

 

2026

00:11:52,763 --> 00:11:53,003

[maggie]: close

 

2027

00:11:53,058 --> 00:11:53,278

[abbe_greenberg]: but there

 

2028

00:11:53,184 --> 00:11:53,424

[maggie]: loving

 

2029

00:11:53,298 --> 00:11:53,458

[abbe_greenberg]: was a

 

2030

00:11:53,484 --> 00:11:53,745

[maggie]: family

 

2031

00:11:53,539 --> 00:11:53,799

[abbe_greenberg]: lot of

 

2032

00:11:53,785 --> 00:11:53,865

[maggie]: but

 

2033

00:11:53,859 --> 00:11:54,460

[abbe_greenberg]: expectation

 

2034

00:11:53,905 --> 00:11:55,187

[maggie]: there was a lot of expectation

 

2035

00:11:55,081 --> 00:11:55,844

[abbe_greenberg]: so i

 

2036

00:11:55,828 --> 00:11:55,928

[maggie]: so

 

2037

00:11:56,125 --> 00:11:56,387

[abbe_greenberg]: didn't

 

2038

00:11:56,169 --> 00:11:56,190

[juliet_hahn]: m

 

2039

00:11:56,547 --> 00:11:56,708

[abbe_greenberg]: want

 

2040

00:11:56,551 --> 00:11:56,591

[maggie]: i

 

2041

00:11:56,788 --> 00:11:56,869

[abbe_greenberg]: to

 

2042

00:11:56,872 --> 00:11:57,616

[maggie]: didn't want to

 

2043

00:11:57,622 --> 00:11:58,267

[abbe_greenberg]: do anything

 

2044

00:11:58,379 --> 00:11:59,004

[maggie]: do anything

 

2045

00:11:59,342 --> 00:11:59,802

[abbe_greenberg]: that would

 

2046

00:12:00,099 --> 00:12:00,219

[maggie]: that

 

2047

00:12:00,143 --> 00:12:00,323

[abbe_greenberg]: either

 

2048

00:12:00,299 --> 00:12:00,539

[maggie]: would

 

2049

00:12:00,383 --> 00:12:00,744

[abbe_greenberg]: upset

 

2050

00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,060

[maggie]: either

 

2051

00:12:01,024 --> 00:12:01,465

[abbe_greenberg]: anybody

 

2052

00:12:01,321 --> 00:12:02,182

[maggie]: set anybody

 

2053

00:12:01,846 --> 00:12:02,567

[abbe_greenberg]: or would make them

 

2054

00:12:02,603 --> 00:12:02,703

[maggie]: or

 

2055

00:12:02,627 --> 00:12:03,008

[abbe_greenberg]: think that i

 

2056

00:12:03,023 --> 00:12:03,144

[maggie]: make

 

2057

00:12:03,068 --> 00:12:03,829

[abbe_greenberg]: wasn't performing

 

2058

00:12:03,384 --> 00:12:03,725

[maggie]: think that i

 

2059

00:12:03,804 --> 00:12:03,906

[juliet_hahn]: ah

 

2060

00:12:03,805 --> 00:12:03,925

[maggie]: was

 

2061

00:12:03,889 --> 00:12:05,572

[abbe_greenberg]: as well as i should so you

know

 

2062

00:12:05,528 --> 00:12:05,628

[maggie]: so

 

2063

00:12:05,652 --> 00:12:06,393

[abbe_greenberg]: i was destined

 

2064

00:12:06,129 --> 00:12:06,429

[maggie]: you know i

 

2065

00:12:06,433 --> 00:12:06,513

[abbe_greenberg]: to

 

2066

00:12:06,509 --> 00:12:06,609

[maggie]: was

 

2067

00:12:06,554 --> 00:12:06,754

[abbe_greenberg]: go to

 

2068

00:12:06,750 --> 00:12:07,130

[maggie]: destined

 

2069

00:12:06,994 --> 00:12:07,235

[abbe_greenberg]: a place

 

2070

00:12:07,190 --> 00:12:07,371

[maggie]: to go

 

2071

00:12:07,295 --> 00:12:07,415

[abbe_greenberg]: like

 

2072

00:12:07,431 --> 00:12:07,511

[maggie]: to

 

2073

00:12:07,515 --> 00:12:07,756

[abbe_greenberg]: pen

 

2074

00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:07,961

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2075

00:12:07,811 --> 00:12:07,972

[maggie]: place

 

2076

00:12:07,936 --> 00:12:08,897

[abbe_greenberg]: from the time that i was in

 

2077

00:12:08,873 --> 00:12:08,953

[maggie]: the

 

2078

00:12:08,938 --> 00:12:09,358

[abbe_greenberg]: kinder garden

 

2079

00:12:09,270 --> 00:12:09,512

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2080

00:12:09,418 --> 00:12:09,639

[abbe_greenberg]: because

 

2081

00:12:09,674 --> 00:12:10,115

[maggie]: kinergarden

 

2082

00:12:09,699 --> 00:12:10,140

[abbe_greenberg]: i was you know

 

2083

00:12:10,155 --> 00:12:10,616

[maggie]: because i was

 

2084

00:12:10,821 --> 00:12:11,602

[abbe_greenberg]: i had the opp at of

 

2085

00:12:11,578 --> 00:12:11,738

[maggie]: i had

 

2086

00:12:11,662 --> 00:12:12,023

[abbe_greenberg]: maggie

 

2087

00:12:11,778 --> 00:12:12,740

[maggie]: the offs maggie

 

2088

00:12:12,764 --> 00:12:13,445

[abbe_greenberg]: maggie's experience

 

2089

00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:13,220

[maggie]: you

 

2090

00:12:13,465 --> 00:12:13,866

[abbe_greenberg]: in terms of

 

2091

00:12:13,841 --> 00:12:14,262

[maggie]: xperiencein

 

2092

00:12:13,926 --> 00:12:14,286

[abbe_greenberg]: learning i

 

2093

00:12:14,302 --> 00:12:14,523

[maggie]: terms

 

2094

00:12:14,327 --> 00:12:14,467

[abbe_greenberg]: have

 

2095

00:12:14,490 --> 00:12:14,837

[juliet_hahn]: ye

 

2096

00:12:14,507 --> 00:12:14,527

[abbe_greenberg]: a

 

2097

00:12:14,563 --> 00:12:14,603

[maggie]: of

 

2098

00:12:14,587 --> 00:12:14,787

[abbe_greenberg]: very

 

2099

00:12:14,683 --> 00:12:14,943

[maggie]: learning

 

2100

00:12:14,887 --> 00:12:15,088

[abbe_greenberg]: neuro

 

2101

00:12:15,003 --> 00:12:15,204

[maggie]: i have

 

2102

00:12:15,188 --> 00:12:15,508

[abbe_greenberg]: typical

 

2103

00:12:15,244 --> 00:12:15,544

[maggie]: a very

 

2104

00:12:15,589 --> 00:12:15,789

[abbe_greenberg]: brain

 

2105

00:12:15,624 --> 00:12:15,825

[maggie]: nero

 

2106

00:12:15,869 --> 00:12:15,949

[abbe_greenberg]: for

 

2107

00:12:15,945 --> 00:12:16,245

[maggie]: typical

 

2108

00:12:16,049 --> 00:12:16,370

[abbe_greenberg]: learning

 

2109

00:12:16,326 --> 00:12:16,546

[maggie]: brain

 

2110

00:12:16,570 --> 00:12:16,731

[abbe_greenberg]: very

 

2111

00:12:16,606 --> 00:12:17,087

[maggie]: from learning

 

2112

00:12:16,811 --> 00:12:17,392

[abbe_greenberg]: fast brain

 

2113

00:12:17,307 --> 00:12:17,488

[maggie]: very

 

2114

00:12:17,472 --> 00:12:17,592

[abbe_greenberg]: for

 

2115

00:12:17,568 --> 00:12:17,788

[maggie]: fast

 

2116

00:12:17,632 --> 00:12:17,973

[abbe_greenberg]: learning

 

2117

00:12:17,948 --> 00:12:18,690

[maggie]: brain for learning

 

2118

00:12:18,554 --> 00:12:19,074

[abbe_greenberg]: and my

 

2119

00:12:19,331 --> 00:12:19,831

[maggie]: and my

 

2120

00:12:19,856 --> 00:12:20,697

[abbe_greenberg]: the intelligences that

 

2121

00:12:20,613 --> 00:12:20,693

[maggie]: the

 

2122

00:12:20,737 --> 00:12:20,817

[abbe_greenberg]: are

 

2123

00:12:20,753 --> 00:12:21,314

[maggie]: intelligences

 

2124

00:12:20,857 --> 00:12:21,358

[abbe_greenberg]: strong for me

 

2125

00:12:21,374 --> 00:12:21,474

[maggie]: that

 

2126

00:12:21,418 --> 00:12:21,458

[abbe_greenberg]: or

 

2127

00:12:21,514 --> 00:12:21,594

[maggie]: are

 

2128

00:12:21,539 --> 00:12:21,599

[abbe_greenberg]: the

 

2129

00:12:21,614 --> 00:12:21,855

[maggie]: strong

 

2130

00:12:21,739 --> 00:12:21,899

[abbe_greenberg]: ones

 

2131

00:12:21,935 --> 00:12:22,015

[maggie]: for

 

2132

00:12:21,999 --> 00:12:22,200

[abbe_greenberg]: that

 

2133

00:12:22,075 --> 00:12:22,376

[maggie]: me or the

 

2134

00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:22,460

[abbe_greenberg]: the

 

2135

00:12:22,496 --> 00:12:22,656

[maggie]: ones

 

2136

00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:22,680

[abbe_greenberg]: west

 

2137

00:12:22,689 --> 00:12:22,710

[juliet_hahn]: m

 

2138

00:12:22,776 --> 00:12:22,937

[maggie]: that

 

2139

00:12:22,781 --> 00:12:23,261

[abbe_greenberg]: celebrate

 

2140

00:12:23,117 --> 00:12:23,437

[maggie]: the west

 

2141

00:12:23,502 --> 00:12:23,642

[abbe_greenberg]: right

 

2142

00:12:23,558 --> 00:12:23,998

[maggie]: celebrate

 

2143

00:12:23,722 --> 00:12:24,184

[abbe_greenberg]: linguistic

 

2144

00:12:24,259 --> 00:12:24,419

[maggie]: right

 

2145

00:12:24,264 --> 00:12:24,985

[abbe_greenberg]: and mathematical

 

2146

00:12:24,479 --> 00:12:25,100

[maggie]: linguistic and

 

2147

00:12:25,086 --> 00:12:25,186

[abbe_greenberg]: so

 

2148

00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:25,721

[maggie]: mathematical

 

2149

00:12:25,467 --> 00:12:25,968

[abbe_greenberg]: i kind

 

2150

00:12:25,861 --> 00:12:25,942

[maggie]: so

 

2151

00:12:26,028 --> 00:12:26,329

[abbe_greenberg]: of was

 

2152

00:12:26,222 --> 00:12:26,262

[maggie]: i

 

2153

00:12:26,369 --> 00:12:26,449

[abbe_greenberg]: the

 

2154

00:12:26,523 --> 00:12:26,723

[maggie]: kind

 

2155

00:12:26,569 --> 00:12:26,810

[abbe_greenberg]: s a t

 

2156

00:12:26,803 --> 00:12:27,104

[maggie]: of was

 

2157

00:12:26,990 --> 00:12:27,151

[abbe_greenberg]: girl

 

2158

00:12:27,164 --> 00:12:27,264

[maggie]: the

 

2159

00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:27,481

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2160

00:12:27,384 --> 00:12:27,624

[maggie]: s a t

 

2161

00:12:28,754 --> 00:12:29,857

[abbe_greenberg]: it's a very different experience

 

2162

00:12:29,548 --> 00:12:29,688

[maggie]: it's

 

2163

00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:29,980

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

2164

00:12:29,748 --> 00:12:29,988

[maggie]: a very

 

2165

00:12:29,897 --> 00:12:29,997

[abbe_greenberg]: from

 

2166

00:12:30,028 --> 00:12:30,249

[maggie]: different

 

2167

00:12:30,138 --> 00:12:30,158

[abbe_greenberg]: a

 

2168

00:12:30,269 --> 00:12:30,970

[maggie]: experience from a

 

2169

00:12:32,409 --> 00:12:32,429

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

2170

00:12:32,503 --> 00:12:33,585

[abbe_greenberg]: but had plenty

 

2171

00:12:33,374 --> 00:12:33,594

[maggie]: but

 

2172

00:12:33,685 --> 00:12:33,745

[abbe_greenberg]: of

 

2173

00:12:33,693 --> 00:12:33,755

[juliet_hahn]: ah

 

2174

00:12:33,805 --> 00:12:33,885

[abbe_greenberg]: my

 

2175

00:12:33,835 --> 00:12:34,055

[maggie]: had

 

2176

00:12:34,025 --> 00:12:34,206

[abbe_greenberg]: own

 

2177

00:12:34,155 --> 00:12:34,436

[maggie]: plenty

 

2178

00:12:34,346 --> 00:12:34,787

[abbe_greenberg]: issues

 

2179

00:12:34,496 --> 00:12:35,598

[maggie]: of my own issues

 

2180

00:12:35,247 --> 00:12:35,788

[abbe_greenberg]: to deal with

 

2181

00:12:35,758 --> 00:12:35,838

[maggie]: to

 

2182

00:12:36,089 --> 00:12:36,189

[abbe_greenberg]: with

 

2183

00:12:36,179 --> 00:12:36,319

[maggie]: deal

 

2184

00:12:36,249 --> 00:12:36,710

[abbe_greenberg]: anxiety

 

2185

00:12:36,419 --> 00:12:37,521

[maggie]: with anxiety

 

2186

00:12:38,092 --> 00:12:38,313

[abbe_greenberg]: and

 

2187

00:12:38,883 --> 00:12:39,104

[maggie]: and

 

2188

00:12:39,034 --> 00:12:39,775

[abbe_greenberg]: so yeah i

 

2189

00:12:39,825 --> 00:12:39,925

[maggie]: so

 

2190

00:12:39,875 --> 00:12:40,376

[abbe_greenberg]: did i ended

 

2191

00:12:40,205 --> 00:12:40,346

[maggie]: yeah

 

2192

00:12:40,416 --> 00:12:40,556

[abbe_greenberg]: up at

 

2193

00:12:40,546 --> 00:12:40,566

[maggie]: i

 

2194

00:12:40,576 --> 00:12:40,636

[abbe_greenberg]: the

 

2195

00:12:40,666 --> 00:12:40,806

[maggie]: did

 

2196

00:12:40,677 --> 00:12:40,997

[abbe_greenberg]: university

 

2197

00:12:40,846 --> 00:12:41,127

[maggie]: i ended

 

2198

00:12:41,037 --> 00:12:41,718

[abbe_greenberg]: of pensylvania

 

2199

00:12:41,207 --> 00:12:42,469

[maggie]: up the university of pensylvania

 

2200

00:12:42,359 --> 00:12:43,261

[abbe_greenberg]: where mag

 

2201

00:12:43,130 --> 00:12:43,451

[maggie]: where

 

2202

00:12:43,381 --> 00:12:43,581

[abbe_greenberg]: and i

 

2203

00:12:43,851 --> 00:12:44,212

[maggie]: max and

 

2204

00:12:44,323 --> 00:12:44,463

[abbe_greenberg]: were

 

2205

00:12:44,352 --> 00:12:44,412

[maggie]: i

 

2206

00:12:44,523 --> 00:12:45,385

[abbe_greenberg]: our world's collided

 

2207

00:12:45,134 --> 00:12:45,715

[maggie]: were our world's

 

2208

00:12:45,465 --> 00:12:45,987

[abbe_greenberg]: thank goodness

 

2209

00:12:45,755 --> 00:12:46,155

[maggie]: collided

 

2210

00:12:46,468 --> 00:12:47,730

[abbe_greenberg]: as she saved my life

 

2211

00:12:47,658 --> 00:12:48,439

[maggie]: she's safe like

 

2212

00:12:48,372 --> 00:12:49,185

[abbe_greenberg]: i think i saved turks

 

2213

00:12:49,100 --> 00:12:49,381

[maggie]: i think i

 

2214

00:12:49,370 --> 00:12:49,551

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2215

00:12:49,461 --> 00:12:49,581

[maggie]: said

 

2216

00:12:49,631 --> 00:12:49,711

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

2217

00:12:49,661 --> 00:12:49,922

[maggie]: there's

 

2218

00:12:49,993 --> 00:12:50,095

[abbe_greenberg]: up

 

2219

00:12:50,031 --> 00:12:50,652

[juliet_hahn]: yeah i know i

 

2220

00:12:50,643 --> 00:12:50,803

[maggie]: right

 

2221

00:12:50,692 --> 00:12:50,993

[juliet_hahn]: can't wait

 

2222

00:12:50,903 --> 00:12:50,983

[maggie]: and

 

2223

00:12:51,013 --> 00:12:51,313

[juliet_hahn]: to dive

 

2224

00:12:51,304 --> 00:12:51,444

[maggie]: yeah

 

2225

00:12:51,354 --> 00:12:51,694

[juliet_hahn]: into that

 

2226

00:12:51,564 --> 00:12:51,725

[maggie]: i know

 

2227

00:12:51,754 --> 00:12:52,115

[juliet_hahn]: story

 

2228

00:12:51,885 --> 00:12:52,786

[maggie]: i can't wait to dive into

 

2229

00:12:52,636 --> 00:12:52,816

[juliet_hahn]: more

 

2230

00:12:52,826 --> 00:12:52,947

[maggie]: that

 

2231

00:12:52,856 --> 00:12:53,036

[juliet_hahn]: but i

 

2232

00:12:53,027 --> 00:12:53,387

[maggie]: story

 

2233

00:12:53,116 --> 00:12:53,998

[juliet_hahn]: do have two questions

 

2234

00:12:53,908 --> 00:12:54,068

[maggie]: more

 

2235

00:12:54,078 --> 00:12:54,158

[juliet_hahn]: for

 

2236

00:12:54,129 --> 00:12:54,649

[maggie]: but i do have

 

2237

00:12:54,699 --> 00:12:54,779

[juliet_hahn]: one

 

2238

00:12:54,770 --> 00:12:54,890

[maggie]: two

 

2239

00:12:54,819 --> 00:12:55,080

[juliet_hahn]: question

 

2240

00:12:54,930 --> 00:12:55,270

[maggie]: questions

 

2241

00:12:55,140 --> 00:12:55,360

[juliet_hahn]: for each

 

2242

00:12:55,351 --> 00:12:55,431

[maggie]: for

 

2243

00:12:55,380 --> 00:12:56,081

[juliet_hahn]: of you so that that's

 

2244

00:12:55,972 --> 00:12:56,392

[maggie]: one question

 

2245

00:12:56,121 --> 00:12:56,582

[juliet_hahn]: two questions

 

2246

00:12:56,472 --> 00:12:57,935

[maggie]: for each of you so that that's

two questions

 

2247

00:12:57,844 --> 00:12:59,307

[juliet_hahn]: so i'm going to go with maggie

first

 

2248

00:12:59,177 --> 00:12:59,638

[maggie]: so i'm going to

 

2249

00:12:59,647 --> 00:12:59,727

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

2250

00:12:59,678 --> 00:13:00,058

[maggie]: go with me

 

2251

00:13:00,328 --> 00:13:00,449

[juliet_hahn]: who

 

2252

00:13:00,379 --> 00:13:00,599

[maggie]: first

 

2253

00:13:00,649 --> 00:13:00,849

[juliet_hahn]: in your

 

2254

00:13:00,940 --> 00:13:01,020

[maggie]: so

 

2255

00:13:01,010 --> 00:13:01,512

[juliet_hahn]: amily or

 

2256

00:13:01,621 --> 00:13:01,761

[maggie]: who

 

2257

00:13:01,713 --> 00:13:02,095

[juliet_hahn]: do you know

 

2258

00:13:01,982 --> 00:13:02,202

[maggie]: in your

 

2259

00:13:02,216 --> 00:13:02,276

[juliet_hahn]: of

 

2260

00:13:02,262 --> 00:13:02,583

[maggie]: family

 

2261

00:13:02,376 --> 00:13:02,778

[juliet_hahn]: any other

 

2262

00:13:02,803 --> 00:13:03,444

[maggie]: or do you know

 

2263

00:13:03,361 --> 00:13:03,763

[juliet_hahn]: individual

 

2264

00:13:03,705 --> 00:13:03,845

[maggie]: any

 

2265

00:13:03,803 --> 00:13:03,924

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

2266

00:13:03,925 --> 00:13:04,105

[maggie]: other

 

2267

00:13:04,004 --> 00:13:04,667

[juliet_hahn]: is dislexsic

 

2268

00:13:04,686 --> 00:13:07,651

[maggie]: individual that is dislexicodislex sic

 

2269

00:13:07,630 --> 00:13:08,854

[juliet_hahn]: and has anxiety you know

 

2270

00:13:08,953 --> 00:13:14,489

[maggie]: and has anxiety well my son finitely

has both my sons definitely have a degree

 

2271

00:13:14,529 --> 00:13:18,942

[maggie]: of dislexia one of them probably more

than the other but both of them have

 

2272

00:13:19,003 --> 00:13:24,512

[maggie]: dislexia but but anxiety was it was

in the air in my house

 

2273

00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,470

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2274

00:13:25,093 --> 00:13:27,397

[maggie]: you know like that's what i'd like

to say it's like you breathed

 

2275

00:13:27,411 --> 00:13:27,631

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2276

00:13:27,477 --> 00:13:28,258

[maggie]: in anxiety

 

2277

00:13:28,112 --> 00:13:30,296

[juliet_hahn]: so so did either of your parents

have dislexi

 

2278

00:13:30,061 --> 00:13:30,402

[maggie]: did either

 

2279

00:13:30,396 --> 00:13:30,456

[juliet_hahn]: or

 

2280

00:13:30,462 --> 00:13:30,502

[maggie]: of

 

2281

00:13:30,536 --> 00:13:30,556

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

2282

00:13:30,542 --> 00:13:30,642

[maggie]: your

 

2283

00:13:30,616 --> 00:13:31,237

[juliet_hahn]: grandparent

 

2284

00:13:30,702 --> 00:13:31,443

[maggie]: parents have to sex

 

2285

00:13:31,358 --> 00:13:31,698

[juliet_hahn]: or like an

 

2286

00:13:32,064 --> 00:13:36,812

[maggie]: they d or like well i don't

know like the grandparents were so much older

 

2287

00:13:37,113 --> 00:13:40,579

[maggie]: and they didn't all go to i

don't think they all went to school probably

 

2288

00:13:40,939 --> 00:13:41,260

[maggie]: for too

 

2289

00:13:41,303 --> 00:13:41,544

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2290

00:13:41,340 --> 00:13:47,049

[maggie]: long you know especially on my mom's

side my dad's side definitely not definitely we're

 

2291

00:13:47,129 --> 00:13:50,836

[maggie]: very academic so i don't i don't

really know if my parents

 

2292

00:13:50,700 --> 00:13:51,960

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2293

00:13:50,876 --> 00:13:54,502

[maggie]: are both only children they both lost

a parent at a very young

 

2294

00:13:54,513 --> 00:13:54,675

[abbe_greenberg]: yes

 

2295

00:13:54,622 --> 00:13:57,146

[maggie]: age so it's like the whole family

that

 

2296

00:13:57,090 --> 00:13:57,291

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

2297

00:13:57,206 --> 00:14:00,251

[maggie]: kind of stuff in the family it's

really hard to figure a lot of it

 

2298

00:14:00,370 --> 00:14:00,571

[juliet_hahn]: which

 

2299

00:14:00,371 --> 00:14:00,512

[maggie]: out

 

2300

00:14:01,092 --> 00:14:01,312

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2301

00:14:01,133 --> 00:14:01,834

[maggie]: in terms of those

 

2302

00:14:01,693 --> 00:14:01,973

[juliet_hahn]: which is

 

2303

00:14:01,914 --> 00:14:02,174

[maggie]: things

 

2304

00:14:02,033 --> 00:14:02,534

[juliet_hahn]: interesting because

 

2305

00:14:02,996 --> 00:14:03,136

[maggie]: which

 

2306

00:14:03,155 --> 00:14:03,215

[juliet_hahn]: now

 

2307

00:14:03,196 --> 00:14:03,276

[maggie]: is

 

2308

00:14:03,295 --> 00:14:03,335

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

2309

00:14:03,316 --> 00:14:03,657

[maggie]: interesting

 

2310

00:14:03,456 --> 00:14:03,636

[juliet_hahn]: have

 

2311

00:14:03,677 --> 00:14:04,378

[maggie]: bayou

 

2312

00:14:03,716 --> 00:14:04,517

[juliet_hahn]: talked to other people

 

2313

00:14:04,418 --> 00:14:04,538

[maggie]: know

 

2314

00:14:04,698 --> 00:14:04,798

[juliet_hahn]: on

 

2315

00:14:04,719 --> 00:14:05,200

[maggie]: have talked

 

2316

00:14:05,158 --> 00:14:05,259

[juliet_hahn]: the

 

2317

00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:05,300

[maggie]: to

 

2318

00:14:05,319 --> 00:14:05,499

[juliet_hahn]: show

 

2319

00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:05,801

[maggie]: other people

 

2320

00:14:05,599 --> 00:14:05,960

[juliet_hahn]: that they're

 

2321

00:14:05,981 --> 00:14:06,081

[maggie]: on

 

2322

00:14:06,020 --> 00:14:06,461

[juliet_hahn]: like no i

 

2323

00:14:06,442 --> 00:14:06,542

[maggie]: the

 

2324

00:14:06,541 --> 00:14:06,741

[juliet_hahn]: didn't

 

2325

00:14:06,602 --> 00:14:06,782

[maggie]: show

 

2326

00:14:06,781 --> 00:14:06,921

[juliet_hahn]: know

 

2327

00:14:06,902 --> 00:14:07,023

[maggie]: that

 

2328

00:14:07,001 --> 00:14:07,262

[juliet_hahn]: anyone

 

2329

00:14:07,063 --> 00:14:07,403

[maggie]: they're like

 

2330

00:14:07,342 --> 00:14:07,482

[juliet_hahn]: else

 

2331

00:14:07,483 --> 00:14:07,563

[maggie]: no

 

2332

00:14:07,622 --> 00:14:07,663

[juliet_hahn]: in

 

2333

00:14:07,724 --> 00:14:07,744

[maggie]: i

 

2334

00:14:07,743 --> 00:14:07,803

[juliet_hahn]: my

 

2335

00:14:07,844 --> 00:14:08,064

[maggie]: didn't

 

2336

00:14:07,883 --> 00:14:08,143

[juliet_hahn]: family

 

2337

00:14:08,104 --> 00:14:08,225

[maggie]: know

 

2338

00:14:08,163 --> 00:14:08,364

[juliet_hahn]: that was

 

2339

00:14:08,325 --> 00:14:08,585

[maggie]: anyone

 

2340

00:14:08,444 --> 00:14:08,784

[juliet_hahn]: dislike

 

2341

00:14:08,665 --> 00:14:08,786

[maggie]: else

 

2342

00:14:08,865 --> 00:14:08,965

[juliet_hahn]: like

 

2343

00:14:08,946 --> 00:14:09,126

[maggie]: in my

 

2344

00:14:09,145 --> 00:14:09,225

[juliet_hahn]: one

 

2345

00:14:09,206 --> 00:14:09,467

[maggie]: family

 

2346

00:14:09,245 --> 00:14:09,546

[juliet_hahn]: thing that

 

2347

00:14:09,507 --> 00:14:09,587

[maggie]: that

 

2348

00:14:09,586 --> 00:14:09,626

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

2349

00:14:09,627 --> 00:14:10,148

[maggie]: was just like

 

2350

00:14:10,127 --> 00:14:10,267

[juliet_hahn]: think

 

2351

00:14:10,208 --> 00:14:10,308

[maggie]: like

 

2352

00:14:10,367 --> 00:14:10,487

[juliet_hahn]: for

 

2353

00:14:10,488 --> 00:14:10,709

[maggie]: one thing

 

2354

00:14:10,627 --> 00:14:10,808

[juliet_hahn]: my

 

2355

00:14:10,749 --> 00:14:10,949

[maggie]: that i

 

2356

00:14:10,948 --> 00:14:11,208

[juliet_hahn]: son

 

2357

00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:12,512

[maggie]: think for my son

 

2358

00:14:12,350 --> 00:14:13,192

[juliet_hahn]: it's helpful that

 

2359

00:14:13,333 --> 00:14:13,533

[maggie]: is

 

2360

00:14:13,452 --> 00:14:13,492

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

2361

00:14:13,654 --> 00:14:13,774

[maggie]: it's

 

2362

00:14:13,673 --> 00:14:14,153

[juliet_hahn]: understand

 

2363

00:14:13,834 --> 00:14:14,195

[maggie]: helpful

 

2364

00:14:14,193 --> 00:14:14,374

[juliet_hahn]: the way

 

2365

00:14:14,335 --> 00:14:14,495

[maggie]: that

 

2366

00:14:14,454 --> 00:14:14,834

[juliet_hahn]: he learns

 

2367

00:14:14,775 --> 00:14:14,816

[maggie]: i

 

2368

00:14:14,955 --> 00:14:15,055

[juliet_hahn]: my

 

2369

00:14:14,976 --> 00:14:15,457

[maggie]: understand

 

2370

00:14:15,155 --> 00:14:15,536

[juliet_hahn]: dad was

 

2371

00:14:15,497 --> 00:14:15,577

[maggie]: the

 

2372

00:14:15,596 --> 00:14:15,716

[juliet_hahn]: just

 

2373

00:14:15,617 --> 00:14:15,697

[maggie]: way

 

2374

00:14:15,756 --> 00:14:15,896

[juliet_hahn]: like

 

2375

00:14:15,757 --> 00:14:16,158

[maggie]: he learns

 

2376

00:14:15,936 --> 00:14:16,597

[juliet_hahn]: like my sister's

 

2377

00:14:16,258 --> 00:14:16,558

[maggie]: my dad

 

2378

00:14:16,637 --> 00:14:16,978

[juliet_hahn]: dislike

 

2379

00:14:16,719 --> 00:14:17,180

[maggie]: just just looks

 

2380

00:14:17,098 --> 00:14:17,178

[juliet_hahn]: ice

 

2381

00:14:17,220 --> 00:14:17,440

[maggie]: like my

 

2382

00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:17,619

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

2383

00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,882

[maggie]: sisters disliingso

 

2384

00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:19,522

[juliet_hahn]: we have a lot and i'm sure

there's

 

2385

00:14:19,363 --> 00:14:19,624

[maggie]: we have

 

2386

00:14:19,642 --> 00:14:19,923

[juliet_hahn]: a lot of

 

2387

00:14:19,884 --> 00:14:19,904

[maggie]: a

 

2388

00:14:19,963 --> 00:14:20,504

[juliet_hahn]: grandparents

 

2389

00:14:19,984 --> 00:14:20,585

[maggie]: lot and i'm sure

 

2390

00:14:20,524 --> 00:14:20,604

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

2391

00:14:20,625 --> 00:14:20,846

[maggie]: there's

 

2392

00:14:20,664 --> 00:14:20,925

[juliet_hahn]: now i

 

2393

00:14:20,946 --> 00:14:20,966

[maggie]: a

 

2394

00:14:20,965 --> 00:14:21,185

[juliet_hahn]: shouldn't

 

2395

00:14:21,026 --> 00:14:21,226

[maggie]: lot of

 

2396

00:14:21,225 --> 00:14:21,285

[juliet_hahn]: say

 

2397

00:14:21,266 --> 00:14:21,767

[maggie]: grandparents

 

2398

00:14:21,305 --> 00:14:21,746

[juliet_hahn]: a lot there's

 

2399

00:14:21,807 --> 00:14:21,867

[maggie]: you

 

2400

00:14:21,866 --> 00:14:22,167

[juliet_hahn]: definitely

 

2401

00:14:21,907 --> 00:14:22,749

[maggie]: know i should say a lot

 

2402

00:14:22,748 --> 00:14:22,828

[juliet_hahn]: know

 

2403

00:14:22,829 --> 00:14:23,029

[maggie]: there's

 

2404

00:14:22,988 --> 00:14:23,168

[juliet_hahn]: i think

 

2405

00:14:23,129 --> 00:14:23,470

[maggie]: definitely

 

2406

00:14:23,208 --> 00:14:24,330

[juliet_hahn]: it was my grandma my dad

 

2407

00:14:24,271 --> 00:14:24,452

[maggie]: i think

 

2408

00:14:24,430 --> 00:14:24,611

[juliet_hahn]: side

 

2409

00:14:24,472 --> 00:14:24,652

[maggie]: there's

 

2410

00:14:24,651 --> 00:14:24,771

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

2411

00:14:24,692 --> 00:14:24,772

[maggie]: my

 

2412

00:14:24,811 --> 00:14:24,931

[juliet_hahn]: there

 

2413

00:14:24,832 --> 00:14:25,233

[maggie]: grandmother

 

2414

00:14:24,951 --> 00:14:25,272

[juliet_hahn]: was no

 

2415

00:14:25,273 --> 00:14:25,433

[maggie]: on my

 

2416

00:14:25,392 --> 00:14:25,693

[juliet_hahn]: thoughts

 

2417

00:14:25,493 --> 00:14:25,934

[maggie]: dad side

 

2418

00:14:25,753 --> 00:14:26,093

[juliet_hahn]: that maybe

 

2419

00:14:25,974 --> 00:14:26,074

[maggie]: that

 

2420

00:14:26,133 --> 00:14:26,233

[juliet_hahn]: she

 

2421

00:14:26,134 --> 00:14:26,355

[maggie]: there's

 

2422

00:14:26,274 --> 00:14:26,374

[juliet_hahn]: was

 

2423

00:14:26,415 --> 00:14:26,475

[maggie]: you

 

2424

00:14:26,434 --> 00:14:26,554

[juliet_hahn]: just

 

2425

00:14:26,515 --> 00:14:26,615

[maggie]: know

 

2426

00:14:26,594 --> 00:14:26,714

[juliet_hahn]: like

 

2427

00:14:26,715 --> 00:14:26,976

[maggie]: thought

 

2428

00:14:26,794 --> 00:14:26,895

[juliet_hahn]: like

 

2429

00:14:27,056 --> 00:14:27,677

[maggie]: that maybe she was

 

2430

00:14:27,676 --> 00:14:27,796

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

2431

00:14:27,737 --> 00:14:28,178

[maggie]: dislexic

 

2432

00:14:28,798 --> 00:14:28,998

[juliet_hahn]: there's

 

2433

00:14:28,964 --> 00:14:29,086

[maggie]: so

 

2434

00:14:29,038 --> 00:14:30,160

[juliet_hahn]: an understanding level

 

2435

00:14:30,109 --> 00:14:30,309

[maggie]: there's

 

2436

00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:30,340

[juliet_hahn]: and i

 

2437

00:14:30,349 --> 00:14:30,409

[maggie]: an

 

2438

00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:30,541

[juliet_hahn]: think

 

2439

00:14:30,469 --> 00:14:31,191

[maggie]: understanding

 

2440

00:14:30,581 --> 00:14:31,242

[juliet_hahn]: that's a lot of times

 

2441

00:14:31,251 --> 00:14:31,451

[maggie]: level

 

2442

00:14:31,282 --> 00:14:31,522

[juliet_hahn]: when you

 

2443

00:14:31,511 --> 00:14:31,591

[maggie]: and

 

2444

00:14:31,562 --> 00:14:31,743

[juliet_hahn]: learn

 

2445

00:14:31,631 --> 00:14:31,852

[maggie]: i think

 

2446

00:14:31,823 --> 00:14:32,083

[juliet_hahn]: different

 

2447

00:14:31,872 --> 00:14:32,092

[maggie]: that's a

 

2448

00:14:32,123 --> 00:14:32,163

[juliet_hahn]: or

 

2449

00:14:32,132 --> 00:14:32,232

[maggie]: lot

 

2450

00:14:32,223 --> 00:14:32,324

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

2451

00:14:32,272 --> 00:14:32,513

[maggie]: of times

 

2452

00:14:32,364 --> 00:14:33,045

[juliet_hahn]: have anxiety

 

2453

00:14:32,553 --> 00:14:33,354

[maggie]: when you learn different

 

2454

00:14:33,165 --> 00:14:33,345

[juliet_hahn]: or you

 

2455

00:14:33,394 --> 00:14:33,454

[maggie]: or

 

2456

00:14:33,445 --> 00:14:33,666

[juliet_hahn]: have

 

2457

00:14:33,494 --> 00:14:33,735

[maggie]: you have

 

2458

00:14:33,766 --> 00:14:34,187

[juliet_hahn]: something

 

2459

00:14:33,815 --> 00:14:34,496

[maggie]: anxiety or

 

2460

00:14:34,527 --> 00:14:34,708

[juliet_hahn]: that's

 

2461

00:14:34,556 --> 00:14:34,957

[maggie]: you have

 

2462

00:14:34,828 --> 00:14:35,148

[juliet_hahn]: different

 

2463

00:14:35,057 --> 00:14:35,458

[maggie]: something

 

2464

00:14:35,208 --> 00:14:35,369

[juliet_hahn]: than

 

2465

00:14:35,798 --> 00:14:35,999

[maggie]: that's

 

2466

00:14:35,910 --> 00:14:36,290

[juliet_hahn]: city

 

2467

00:14:36,099 --> 00:14:36,660

[maggie]: different than

 

2468

00:14:36,691 --> 00:14:37,031

[juliet_hahn]: if there's

 

2469

00:14:37,060 --> 00:14:37,601

[maggie]: society

 

2470

00:14:37,072 --> 00:14:38,354

[juliet_hahn]: someone that understands

 

2471

00:14:37,982 --> 00:14:38,643

[maggie]: if there's someone

 

2472

00:14:38,414 --> 00:14:38,774

[juliet_hahn]: you and they

 

2473

00:14:38,683 --> 00:14:38,803

[maggie]: that

 

2474

00:14:38,814 --> 00:14:38,915

[juliet_hahn]: could

 

2475

00:14:38,923 --> 00:14:39,645

[maggie]: understands

 

2476

00:14:38,975 --> 00:14:39,736

[juliet_hahn]: say hey dude

 

2477

00:14:39,725 --> 00:14:39,845

[maggie]: you

 

2478

00:14:39,836 --> 00:14:39,876

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

2479

00:14:39,905 --> 00:14:39,965

[maggie]: and

 

2480

00:14:39,976 --> 00:14:40,137

[juliet_hahn]: know

 

2481

00:14:40,045 --> 00:14:40,726

[maggie]: i could say hey

 

2482

00:14:40,838 --> 00:14:40,998

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

2483

00:14:40,847 --> 00:14:41,067

[maggie]: dude

 

2484

00:14:41,118 --> 00:14:41,319

[juliet_hahn]: school

 

2485

00:14:41,147 --> 00:14:41,448

[maggie]: i know

 

2486

00:14:41,359 --> 00:14:41,980

[juliet_hahn]: is really hard

 

2487

00:14:42,129 --> 00:14:42,590

[maggie]: that school

 

2488

00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:42,761

[juliet_hahn]: i'm really

 

2489

00:14:42,630 --> 00:14:42,930

[maggie]: is really

 

2490

00:14:42,821 --> 00:14:43,102

[juliet_hahn]: sorry

 

2491

00:14:42,990 --> 00:14:43,251

[maggie]: hard

 

2492

00:14:43,322 --> 00:14:44,103

[juliet_hahn]: it was hard for me

 

2493

00:14:44,092 --> 00:14:44,172

[maggie]: so

 

2494

00:14:44,264 --> 00:14:44,624

[juliet_hahn]: and this is

 

2495

00:14:44,593 --> 00:14:44,653

[maggie]: it

 

2496

00:14:44,684 --> 00:14:44,764

[juliet_hahn]: how

 

2497

00:14:44,693 --> 00:14:45,034

[maggie]: was hard

 

2498

00:14:44,925 --> 00:14:45,185

[juliet_hahn]: i got

 

2499

00:14:45,114 --> 00:14:45,234

[maggie]: for

 

2500

00:14:45,245 --> 00:14:45,445

[juliet_hahn]: through

 

2501

00:14:45,274 --> 00:14:45,374

[maggie]: me

 

2502

00:14:45,486 --> 00:14:45,526

[juliet_hahn]: it

 

2503

00:14:45,554 --> 00:14:45,635

[maggie]: and

 

2504

00:14:45,566 --> 00:14:45,806

[juliet_hahn]: and these

 

2505

00:14:45,675 --> 00:14:45,915

[maggie]: this is

 

2506

00:14:45,866 --> 00:14:45,926

[juliet_hahn]: are

 

2507

00:14:45,955 --> 00:14:46,055

[maggie]: how

 

2508

00:14:46,127 --> 00:14:46,247

[juliet_hahn]: some

 

2509

00:14:46,216 --> 00:14:46,236

[maggie]: i

 

2510

00:14:46,287 --> 00:14:46,327

[juliet_hahn]: of

 

2511

00:14:46,336 --> 00:14:46,456

[maggie]: got

 

2512

00:14:46,367 --> 00:14:46,627

[juliet_hahn]: the things

 

2513

00:14:46,516 --> 00:14:46,716

[maggie]: through

 

2514

00:14:46,668 --> 00:14:46,768

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

2515

00:14:46,756 --> 00:14:46,917

[maggie]: it and

 

2516

00:14:46,868 --> 00:14:46,908

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

2517

00:14:46,937 --> 00:14:47,097

[maggie]: these

 

2518

00:14:47,028 --> 00:14:47,228

[juliet_hahn]: did

 

2519

00:14:47,137 --> 00:14:47,718

[maggie]: are some of the

 

2520

00:14:47,649 --> 00:14:47,729

[juliet_hahn]: or

 

2521

00:14:47,758 --> 00:14:48,499

[maggie]: things that i did

 

2522

00:14:48,451 --> 00:14:49,031

[juliet_hahn]: yeah i know

 

2523

00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:49,301

[maggie]: were just

 

2524

00:14:49,172 --> 00:14:49,833

[juliet_hahn]: that it really

 

2525

00:14:49,761 --> 00:14:49,902

[maggie]: yeah

 

2526

00:14:49,893 --> 00:14:50,133

[juliet_hahn]: sucks

 

2527

00:14:50,082 --> 00:14:50,342

[maggie]: i know

 

2528

00:14:50,213 --> 00:14:50,554

[juliet_hahn]: when you have

 

2529

00:14:50,503 --> 00:14:50,643

[maggie]: that

 

2530

00:14:50,574 --> 00:14:50,754

[juliet_hahn]: to take

 

2531

00:14:50,763 --> 00:14:50,823

[maggie]: it

 

2532

00:14:50,794 --> 00:14:51,135

[juliet_hahn]: that math

 

2533

00:14:50,943 --> 00:14:51,124

[maggie]: really

 

2534

00:14:51,195 --> 00:14:51,415

[juliet_hahn]: test

 

2535

00:14:51,204 --> 00:14:51,705

[maggie]: sucks when you

 

2536

00:14:51,676 --> 00:14:51,696

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

2537

00:14:51,765 --> 00:14:51,925

[maggie]: have to

 

2538

00:14:51,876 --> 00:14:52,217

[juliet_hahn]: remember

 

2539

00:14:51,945 --> 00:14:52,406

[maggie]: take that math

 

2540

00:14:52,297 --> 00:14:52,477

[juliet_hahn]: it and

 

2541

00:14:52,486 --> 00:14:52,706

[maggie]: test

 

2542

00:14:52,537 --> 00:14:53,058

[juliet_hahn]: i'm sweating

 

2543

00:14:52,967 --> 00:14:52,987

[maggie]: i

 

2544

00:14:53,158 --> 00:14:53,299

[juliet_hahn]: for

 

2545

00:14:53,167 --> 00:14:53,528

[maggie]: remember

 

2546

00:14:53,399 --> 00:14:53,499

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

2547

00:14:53,568 --> 00:14:53,628

[maggie]: it

 

2548

00:14:53,639 --> 00:14:54,020

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

2549

00:14:53,688 --> 00:14:54,569

[maggie]: and i'm wedding for

 

2550

00:14:54,641 --> 00:14:54,681

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

2551

00:14:54,670 --> 00:14:54,790

[maggie]: you

 

2552

00:14:54,761 --> 00:14:55,041

[juliet_hahn]: hated

 

2553

00:14:54,910 --> 00:14:55,271

[maggie]: because

 

2554

00:14:55,122 --> 00:14:56,003

[juliet_hahn]: it you know what i mean so

 

2555

00:14:55,932 --> 00:14:56,312

[maggie]: i hated

 

2556

00:14:56,083 --> 00:14:56,444

[juliet_hahn]: i feel like

 

2557

00:14:56,393 --> 00:14:56,453

[maggie]: it

 

2558

00:14:56,464 --> 00:14:56,844

[juliet_hahn]: that that's

 

2559

00:14:56,613 --> 00:14:57,394

[maggie]: you know what i mean so i

 

2560

00:14:57,425 --> 00:14:57,706

[juliet_hahn]: something

 

2561

00:14:57,434 --> 00:14:57,835

[maggie]: feel like that

 

2562

00:14:57,746 --> 00:14:57,886

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

2563

00:14:57,895 --> 00:14:58,115

[maggie]: that's

 

2564

00:14:58,006 --> 00:14:59,148

[juliet_hahn]: works well in a family

 

2565

00:14:59,598 --> 00:15:01,681

[maggie]: my mom yes my mom who

 

2566

00:15:01,620 --> 00:15:02,370

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2567

00:15:01,761 --> 00:15:05,968

[maggie]: was a terrific social worker because i'd

hear her on the phone and she worked

 

2568

00:15:06,109 --> 00:15:06,610

[maggie]: a school in

 

2569

00:15:06,581 --> 00:15:06,622

[juliet_hahn]: m

 

2570

00:15:06,710 --> 00:15:10,055

[maggie]: it hear her with all these other

people my brother and my brothers and i

 

2571

00:15:10,095 --> 00:15:12,159

[maggie]: would hear her and we'd be like

who is

 

2572

00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,130

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2573

00:15:12,279 --> 00:15:16,286

[maggie]: that person because when she turned around

to us and she she was loving

 

2574

00:15:16,350 --> 00:15:16,711

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

2575

00:15:16,706 --> 00:15:20,813

[maggie]: but she pushed us really hard and

so it was until many many years later

 

2576

00:15:20,933 --> 00:15:21,114

[maggie]: i was

 

2577

00:15:21,030 --> 00:15:21,810

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2578

00:15:21,254 --> 00:15:25,040

[maggie]: in my thirties sitting at dinner with

my mother and my husband and my mother

 

2579

00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:25,066

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2580

00:15:25,441 --> 00:15:27,965

[maggie]: said i used to feel so sorry

for you when you had to take those

 

2581

00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:28,122

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2582

00:15:28,045 --> 00:15:30,790

[maggie]: math tasks because you would just not

be able to

 

2583

00:15:30,758 --> 00:15:30,900

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2584

00:15:30,850 --> 00:15:35,478

[maggie]: do it and cry and cry and

cry and um and i was like but

 

2585

00:15:35,538 --> 00:15:38,202

[maggie]: mom you never let me go down

to a lower math

 

2586

00:15:38,070 --> 00:15:38,271

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2587

00:15:38,322 --> 00:15:42,289

[maggie]: level like you never said anything and

she's like well i figured it want to

 

2588

00:15:42,549 --> 00:15:43,211

[maggie]: discourage

 

2589

00:15:42,859 --> 00:15:43,062

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2590

00:15:43,311 --> 00:15:47,377

[maggie]: you more i didn't want to and

i was like yeah no it was discouraging

 

2591

00:15:47,478 --> 00:15:49,080

[maggie]: thinking why can't i do

 

2592

00:15:49,061 --> 00:15:49,242

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2593

00:15:49,261 --> 00:15:49,501

[maggie]: this

 

2594

00:15:49,302 --> 00:15:50,603

[juliet_hahn]: which is understandable

 

2595

00:15:50,302 --> 00:15:51,024

[maggie]: right which isn't

 

2596

00:15:50,924 --> 00:15:51,445

[juliet_hahn]: now do either

 

2597

00:15:51,284 --> 00:15:51,725

[maggie]: understand

 

2598

00:15:51,505 --> 00:15:52,606

[juliet_hahn]: of your brothers or either

 

2599

00:15:52,546 --> 00:15:52,786

[maggie]: either

 

2600

00:15:52,666 --> 00:15:52,847

[juliet_hahn]: of your

 

2601

00:15:52,827 --> 00:15:52,867

[maggie]: of

 

2602

00:15:52,867 --> 00:15:53,127

[juliet_hahn]: brothers

 

2603

00:15:52,927 --> 00:15:53,387

[maggie]: your brothers

 

2604

00:15:53,187 --> 00:15:53,788

[juliet_hahn]: dislike sir it

 

2605

00:15:53,748 --> 00:15:53,948

[maggie]: either

 

2606

00:15:53,828 --> 00:15:54,229

[juliet_hahn]: was just you

 

2607

00:15:54,149 --> 00:15:55,513

[maggie]: brothers dislecrt was just you

 

2608

00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,220

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2609

00:15:56,175 --> 00:15:56,716

[maggie]: it was just

 

2610

00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:56,900

[juliet_hahn]: okay

 

2611

00:15:56,776 --> 00:15:56,877

[maggie]: me

 

2612

00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,282

[juliet_hahn]: yeah and that's how my my son

is

 

2613

00:15:59,250 --> 00:15:59,510

[maggie]: and that's

 

2614

00:15:59,482 --> 00:15:59,582

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

2615

00:15:59,530 --> 00:15:59,630

[maggie]: how

 

2616

00:15:59,622 --> 00:15:59,702

[juliet_hahn]: my

 

2617

00:15:59,690 --> 00:15:59,790

[maggie]: my

 

2618

00:15:59,762 --> 00:16:00,082

[juliet_hahn]: other two

 

2619

00:16:00,050 --> 00:16:00,150

[maggie]: my

 

2620

00:16:00,162 --> 00:16:00,243

[juliet_hahn]: are

 

2621

00:16:00,250 --> 00:16:00,411

[maggie]: son

 

2622

00:16:00,323 --> 00:16:00,463

[juliet_hahn]: not

 

2623

00:16:00,491 --> 00:16:00,971

[maggie]: is my

 

2624

00:16:00,943 --> 00:16:01,003

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

2625

00:16:01,051 --> 00:16:01,211

[maggie]: other

 

2626

00:16:01,083 --> 00:16:01,283

[juliet_hahn]: now i'm

 

2627

00:16:01,251 --> 00:16:01,371

[maggie]: two

 

2628

00:16:01,303 --> 00:16:01,484

[juliet_hahn]: going to

 

2629

00:16:01,451 --> 00:16:01,532

[maggie]: are

 

2630

00:16:01,524 --> 00:16:01,624

[juliet_hahn]: take

 

2631

00:16:01,592 --> 00:16:01,772

[maggie]: not

 

2632

00:16:01,664 --> 00:16:02,124

[juliet_hahn]: it to abby

 

2633

00:16:02,292 --> 00:16:02,512

[maggie]: so now

 

2634

00:16:02,504 --> 00:16:02,645

[juliet_hahn]: did

 

2635

00:16:02,572 --> 00:16:02,793

[maggie]: i'm going

 

2636

00:16:02,745 --> 00:16:03,145

[juliet_hahn]: anyone

 

2637

00:16:02,833 --> 00:16:03,373

[maggie]: to take it to add

 

2638

00:16:03,325 --> 00:16:04,306

[juliet_hahn]: in your family

 

2639

00:16:04,094 --> 00:16:04,814

[maggie]: did anyone in

 

2640

00:16:04,786 --> 00:16:04,907

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

2641

00:16:04,914 --> 00:16:05,135

[maggie]: your

 

2642

00:16:04,987 --> 00:16:05,367

[juliet_hahn]: you know

 

2643

00:16:05,255 --> 00:16:05,695

[maggie]: family

 

2644

00:16:05,547 --> 00:16:06,108

[juliet_hahn]: of have

 

2645

00:16:06,155 --> 00:16:06,296

[maggie]: that

 

2646

00:16:06,348 --> 00:16:06,368

[juliet_hahn]: o

 

2647

00:16:06,356 --> 00:16:06,456

[maggie]: you

 

2648

00:16:06,508 --> 00:16:06,528

[juliet_hahn]: c

 

2649

00:16:06,556 --> 00:16:06,716

[maggie]: know

 

2650

00:16:06,708 --> 00:16:06,728

[juliet_hahn]: d

 

2651

00:16:06,936 --> 00:16:07,477

[maggie]: of have

 

2652

00:16:07,168 --> 00:16:07,749

[juliet_hahn]: anxiety

 

2653

00:16:07,717 --> 00:16:09,098

[maggie]: o c d anxiety

 

2654

00:16:09,792 --> 00:16:10,433

[abbe_greenberg]: anxiety

 

2655

00:16:10,649 --> 00:16:11,310

[maggie]: anxiety

 

2656

00:16:10,875 --> 00:16:11,416

[abbe_greenberg]: definitely

 

2657

00:16:11,710 --> 00:16:12,251

[maggie]: definitely

 

2658

00:16:12,319 --> 00:16:13,362

[abbe_greenberg]: you know we were jewish

 

2659

00:16:13,173 --> 00:16:13,413

[maggie]: you know

 

2660

00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:13,640

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2661

00:16:13,562 --> 00:16:13,642

[abbe_greenberg]: so

 

2662

00:16:13,774 --> 00:16:14,475

[maggie]: were jewish so

 

2663

00:16:15,508 --> 00:16:16,009

[abbe_greenberg]: anxiety

 

2664

00:16:15,863 --> 00:16:17,044

[juliet_hahn]: you are jewish you should say

 

2665

00:16:17,059 --> 00:16:17,300

[maggie]: are you

 

2666

00:16:17,322 --> 00:16:17,342

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

2667

00:16:17,420 --> 00:16:17,500

[maggie]: are

 

2668

00:16:17,482 --> 00:16:17,562

[abbe_greenberg]: am

 

2669

00:16:17,620 --> 00:16:17,881

[maggie]: jewish

 

2670

00:16:17,642 --> 00:16:20,909

[abbe_greenberg]: just except we say about my dad

 

2671

00:16:20,906 --> 00:16:20,966

[maggie]: as

 

2672

00:16:20,949 --> 00:16:21,269

[abbe_greenberg]: that he's a

 

2673

00:16:21,286 --> 00:16:21,367

[maggie]: my

 

2674

00:16:21,330 --> 00:16:21,730

[abbe_greenberg]: carrier

 

2675

00:16:21,447 --> 00:16:22,528

[maggie]: dad that he's a carrier

 

2676

00:16:22,612 --> 00:16:23,876

[abbe_greenberg]: he doesn't have anxiety just gives

 

2677

00:16:23,769 --> 00:16:23,929

[maggie]: have

 

2678

00:16:23,917 --> 00:16:24,198

[abbe_greenberg]: everyone

 

2679

00:16:23,989 --> 00:16:24,290

[maggie]: anxiety

 

2680

00:16:24,238 --> 00:16:24,458

[abbe_greenberg]: around

 

2681

00:16:24,410 --> 00:16:24,510

[maggie]: just

 

2682

00:16:24,499 --> 00:16:24,579

[abbe_greenberg]: him

 

2683

00:16:24,550 --> 00:16:24,691

[maggie]: gives

 

2684

00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:25,000

[abbe_greenberg]: anxiety

 

2685

00:16:24,711 --> 00:16:24,991

[maggie]: everyone

 

2686

00:16:24,913 --> 00:16:25,154

[juliet_hahn]: okay

 

2687

00:16:25,031 --> 00:16:25,211

[maggie]: around

 

2688

00:16:25,838 --> 00:16:26,862

[juliet_hahn]: we all know someone like that

 

2689

00:16:27,595 --> 00:16:27,996

[maggie]: something like

 

2690

00:16:27,912 --> 00:16:28,534

[abbe_greenberg]: she's type

 

2691

00:16:28,777 --> 00:16:29,198

[maggie]: his type

 

2692

00:16:29,730 --> 00:16:30,111

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2693

00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,605

[maggie]: type to the to the hundredth degree

you

 

2694

00:16:33,585 --> 00:16:33,786

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2695

00:16:33,625 --> 00:16:34,707

[maggie]: know if we can say him

 

2696

00:16:35,152 --> 00:16:35,312

[abbe_greenberg]: he's

 

2697

00:16:35,589 --> 00:16:36,592

[maggie]: has some traces

 

2698

00:16:36,696 --> 00:16:37,639

[abbe_greenberg]: he's a perfectionist

 

2699

00:16:37,454 --> 00:16:37,694

[maggie]: he's a

 

2700

00:16:37,699 --> 00:16:37,779

[abbe_greenberg]: and

 

2701

00:16:37,755 --> 00:16:38,376

[maggie]: perfectionist

 

2702

00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:38,401

[abbe_greenberg]: that's where i got

 

2703

00:16:38,456 --> 00:16:38,517

[maggie]: and

 

2704

00:16:38,461 --> 00:16:38,581

[abbe_greenberg]: that

 

2705

00:16:38,717 --> 00:16:38,938

[maggie]: yeah i

 

2706

00:16:38,942 --> 00:16:39,604

[abbe_greenberg]: for sure but no

 

2707

00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:40,001

[maggie]: for sure

 

2708

00:16:39,985 --> 00:16:40,086

[abbe_greenberg]: no

 

2709

00:16:40,081 --> 00:16:40,161

[maggie]: but

 

2710

00:16:40,206 --> 00:16:40,968

[abbe_greenberg]: one in my family

 

2711

00:16:40,742 --> 00:16:41,023

[maggie]: no one

 

2712

00:16:41,028 --> 00:16:41,148

[abbe_greenberg]: has

 

2713

00:16:41,103 --> 00:16:41,284

[maggie]: in my

 

2714

00:16:41,329 --> 00:16:41,449

[abbe_greenberg]: os

 

2715

00:16:41,384 --> 00:16:41,685

[maggie]: family

 

2716

00:16:41,610 --> 00:16:41,810

[abbe_greenberg]: date

 

2717

00:16:41,785 --> 00:16:42,287

[maggie]: has those

 

2718

00:16:42,170 --> 00:16:42,593

[juliet_hahn]: interesting

 

2719

00:16:42,427 --> 00:16:42,507

[maggie]: at

 

2720

00:16:42,794 --> 00:16:43,016

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2721

00:16:42,933 --> 00:16:43,602

[abbe_greenberg]: the only lucky

 

2722

00:16:43,499 --> 00:16:44,060

[maggie]: interestingly

 

2723

00:16:43,764 --> 00:16:43,905

[abbe_greenberg]: one

 

2724

00:16:44,140 --> 00:16:44,341

[maggie]: right

 

2725

00:16:44,190 --> 00:16:45,512

[juliet_hahn]: and yeah so i that

 

2726

00:16:45,503 --> 00:16:45,623

[maggie]: and

 

2727

00:16:45,613 --> 00:16:45,793

[juliet_hahn]: always

 

2728

00:16:45,723 --> 00:16:45,863

[maggie]: yeah

 

2729

00:16:45,833 --> 00:16:46,314

[juliet_hahn]: fascinates

 

2730

00:16:46,023 --> 00:16:46,344

[maggie]: so i went

 

2731

00:16:46,414 --> 00:16:46,754

[juliet_hahn]: me is like

 

2732

00:16:46,725 --> 00:16:46,825

[maggie]: that

 

2733

00:16:46,835 --> 00:16:47,015

[juliet_hahn]: okay

 

2734

00:16:46,965 --> 00:16:47,125

[maggie]: always

 

2735

00:16:47,155 --> 00:16:47,476

[juliet_hahn]: where

 

2736

00:16:47,185 --> 00:16:48,748

[maggie]: fascinates me as like okay where

 

2737

00:16:48,497 --> 00:16:50,020

[juliet_hahn]: was it something that was learned

 

2738

00:16:49,830 --> 00:16:50,431

[maggie]: was it something

 

2739

00:16:50,220 --> 00:16:50,461

[juliet_hahn]: you know

 

2740

00:16:50,471 --> 00:16:50,591

[maggie]: that

 

2741

00:16:50,621 --> 00:16:50,701

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

2742

00:16:50,671 --> 00:16:50,771

[maggie]: was

 

2743

00:16:50,741 --> 00:16:50,861

[juliet_hahn]: then

 

2744

00:16:50,871 --> 00:16:51,332

[maggie]: learned

 

2745

00:16:50,921 --> 00:16:51,903

[juliet_hahn]: it just manifested

 

2746

00:16:51,553 --> 00:16:52,214

[maggie]: you know and then

 

2747

00:16:52,184 --> 00:16:52,244

[juliet_hahn]: to

 

2748

00:16:52,274 --> 00:16:52,314

[maggie]: it

 

2749

00:16:52,324 --> 00:16:52,624

[juliet_hahn]: more

 

2750

00:16:52,374 --> 00:16:53,235

[maggie]: just manifested

 

2751

00:16:52,805 --> 00:16:53,626

[juliet_hahn]: you know because obviously

 

2752

00:16:53,516 --> 00:16:53,957

[maggie]: to more

 

2753

00:16:53,966 --> 00:16:54,247

[juliet_hahn]: you have

 

2754

00:16:54,137 --> 00:16:54,337

[maggie]: you know

 

2755

00:16:54,287 --> 00:16:54,367

[juliet_hahn]: the

 

2756

00:16:54,377 --> 00:16:54,558

[maggie]: because

 

2757

00:16:54,447 --> 00:16:54,848

[juliet_hahn]: anxiety

 

2758

00:16:54,618 --> 00:16:54,958

[maggie]: obviously

 

2759

00:16:54,908 --> 00:16:55,289

[juliet_hahn]: component

 

2760

00:16:55,259 --> 00:16:55,539

[maggie]: you have

 

2761

00:16:55,549 --> 00:16:55,629

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

2762

00:16:55,579 --> 00:16:56,641

[maggie]: the anxiety component

 

2763

00:16:56,350 --> 00:16:56,811

[juliet_hahn]: those kind of

 

2764

00:16:56,841 --> 00:16:56,922

[maggie]: and

 

2765

00:16:56,851 --> 00:16:57,071

[juliet_hahn]: things

 

2766

00:16:57,002 --> 00:16:57,162

[maggie]: how

 

2767

00:16:57,171 --> 00:16:58,032

[juliet_hahn]: but i'm not a doctor

 

2768

00:16:57,763 --> 00:16:58,144

[maggie]: those kind

 

2769

00:16:58,052 --> 00:16:58,152

[juliet_hahn]: but

 

2770

00:16:58,184 --> 00:16:58,224

[maggie]: of

 

2771

00:16:58,192 --> 00:16:58,352

[juliet_hahn]: those

 

2772

00:16:58,264 --> 00:16:58,464

[maggie]: things

 

2773

00:16:58,392 --> 00:16:58,572

[juliet_hahn]: kind of

 

2774

00:16:58,564 --> 00:16:58,664

[maggie]: but

 

2775

00:16:58,592 --> 00:16:58,753

[juliet_hahn]: things

 

2776

00:16:58,745 --> 00:16:58,825

[maggie]: i'm

 

2777

00:16:58,833 --> 00:16:59,293

[juliet_hahn]: fascinate

 

2778

00:16:58,885 --> 00:16:59,386

[maggie]: not a doctor

 

2779

00:16:59,353 --> 00:16:59,433

[juliet_hahn]: me

 

2780

00:16:59,426 --> 00:16:59,927

[maggie]: but those kind of

 

2781

00:16:59,934 --> 00:17:00,114

[juliet_hahn]: um

 

2782

00:16:59,947 --> 00:17:00,628

[maggie]: things fascinate

 

2783

00:17:00,454 --> 00:17:00,674

[juliet_hahn]: you know

 

2784

00:17:00,688 --> 00:17:00,748

[maggie]: me

 

2785

00:17:00,815 --> 00:17:01,295

[juliet_hahn]: just to think

 

2786

00:17:01,269 --> 00:17:01,469

[maggie]: um

 

2787

00:17:01,375 --> 00:17:01,595

[juliet_hahn]: about

 

2788

00:17:01,810 --> 00:17:02,050

[maggie]: you know

 

2789

00:17:01,936 --> 00:17:02,116

[juliet_hahn]: where

 

2790

00:17:02,170 --> 00:17:02,290

[maggie]: just

 

2791

00:17:02,176 --> 00:17:02,516

[juliet_hahn]: did that

 

2792

00:17:02,351 --> 00:17:02,932

[maggie]: to think about

 

2793

00:17:03,037 --> 00:17:03,377

[juliet_hahn]: start

 

2794

00:17:03,272 --> 00:17:03,432

[maggie]: where

 

2795

00:17:03,497 --> 00:17:03,798

[juliet_hahn]: and where

 

2796

00:17:03,693 --> 00:17:03,873

[maggie]: that

 

2797

00:17:03,858 --> 00:17:04,338

[juliet_hahn]: you know how did

 

2798

00:17:04,374 --> 00:17:04,735

[maggie]: start

 

2799

00:17:04,378 --> 00:17:05,099

[juliet_hahn]: that come about

 

2800

00:17:04,855 --> 00:17:06,437

[maggie]: and where you know how did that

come about

 

2801

00:17:06,272 --> 00:17:06,416

[abbe_greenberg]: yeah

 

2802

00:17:06,902 --> 00:17:07,025

[juliet_hahn]: now

 

2803

00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:08,120

[maggie]: but

 

2804

00:17:07,984 --> 00:17:08,727

[abbe_greenberg]: i think that

 

2805

00:17:08,801 --> 00:17:09,122

[maggie]: i think

 

2806

00:17:09,048 --> 00:17:09,289

[abbe_greenberg]: in my

 

2807

00:17:09,302 --> 00:17:09,522

[maggie]: that

 

2808

00:17:09,409 --> 00:17:09,751

[abbe_greenberg]: case

 

2809

00:17:09,883 --> 00:17:10,544

[maggie]: in my case

 

2810

00:17:10,493 --> 00:17:11,336

[abbe_greenberg]: my my

 

2811

00:17:11,345 --> 00:17:11,505

[maggie]: my

 

2812

00:17:11,497 --> 00:17:12,019

[abbe_greenberg]: brain

 

2813

00:17:12,026 --> 00:17:12,867

[maggie]: my brain

 

2814

00:17:13,062 --> 00:17:13,622

[abbe_greenberg]: chose

 

2815

00:17:13,919 --> 00:17:14,460

[maggie]: chose

 

2816

00:17:13,943 --> 00:17:14,904

[abbe_greenberg]: a way of coping

 

2817

00:17:14,801 --> 00:17:15,122

[maggie]: a way

 

2818

00:17:14,964 --> 00:17:15,765

[abbe_greenberg]: with anxiety

 

2819

00:17:15,242 --> 00:17:15,964

[maggie]: of coping with

 

2820

00:17:15,825 --> 00:17:16,026

[abbe_greenberg]: i had

 

2821

00:17:16,064 --> 00:17:16,626

[maggie]: anxiety

 

2822

00:17:16,086 --> 00:17:16,867

[abbe_greenberg]: severe anxiety

 

2823

00:17:16,686 --> 00:17:17,228

[maggie]: i had severe

 

2824

00:17:17,267 --> 00:17:17,347

[abbe_greenberg]: and

 

2825

00:17:17,328 --> 00:17:17,749

[maggie]: anxiety

 

2826

00:17:17,340 --> 00:17:18,450

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2827

00:17:17,388 --> 00:17:18,169

[abbe_greenberg]: i couldn't talk about

 

2828

00:17:18,110 --> 00:17:18,190

[maggie]: and

 

2829

00:17:18,209 --> 00:17:18,269

[abbe_greenberg]: it

 

2830

00:17:18,250 --> 00:17:18,271

[maggie]: i

 

2831

00:17:18,329 --> 00:17:18,409

[abbe_greenberg]: so

 

2832

00:17:18,331 --> 00:17:18,551

[maggie]: couldn't

 

2833

00:17:18,509 --> 00:17:18,589

[abbe_greenberg]: my

 

2834

00:17:18,611 --> 00:17:18,752

[maggie]: talk

 

2835

00:17:18,709 --> 00:17:18,850

[abbe_greenberg]: way

 

2836

00:17:18,832 --> 00:17:19,033

[maggie]: about

 

2837

00:17:18,950 --> 00:17:19,010

[abbe_greenberg]: of

 

2838

00:17:19,073 --> 00:17:19,133

[maggie]: it

 

2839

00:17:19,090 --> 00:17:19,430

[abbe_greenberg]: coping

 

2840

00:17:19,193 --> 00:17:19,474

[maggie]: to my

 

2841

00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:19,651

[abbe_greenberg]: with

 

2842

00:17:19,594 --> 00:17:19,735

[maggie]: way

 

2843

00:17:19,711 --> 00:17:19,771

[abbe_greenberg]: it

 

2844

00:17:19,815 --> 00:17:20,637

[maggie]: of coping with it

 

2845

00:17:20,622 --> 00:17:21,203

[abbe_greenberg]: to create these

 

2846

00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:21,870

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2847

00:17:21,283 --> 00:17:21,563

[abbe_greenberg]: soothing

 

2848

00:17:21,479 --> 00:17:21,899

[maggie]: to create

 

2849

00:17:21,603 --> 00:17:22,084

[abbe_greenberg]: compulsions

 

2850

00:17:21,940 --> 00:17:22,420

[maggie]: these throwing

 

2851

00:17:22,124 --> 00:17:22,365

[abbe_greenberg]: because i

 

2852

00:17:22,460 --> 00:17:22,901

[maggie]: compulsion

 

2853

00:17:22,465 --> 00:17:22,845

[abbe_greenberg]: totally

 

2854

00:17:22,722 --> 00:17:22,945

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2855

00:17:22,941 --> 00:17:23,142

[maggie]: because

 

2856

00:17:22,986 --> 00:17:23,126

[abbe_greenberg]: was

 

2857

00:17:23,202 --> 00:17:23,222

[maggie]: i

 

2858

00:17:23,226 --> 00:17:23,547

[abbe_greenberg]: fine

 

2859

00:17:23,342 --> 00:17:24,384

[maggie]: totally was raving

 

2860

00:17:24,148 --> 00:17:24,608

[abbe_greenberg]: once i did

 

2861

00:17:24,660 --> 00:17:25,500

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2862

00:17:24,669 --> 00:17:25,270

[abbe_greenberg]: my compulsion

 

2863

00:17:25,005 --> 00:17:25,445

[maggie]: once i did

 

2864

00:17:25,330 --> 00:17:25,630

[abbe_greenberg]: i felt

 

2865

00:17:25,505 --> 00:17:25,586

[maggie]: my

 

2866

00:17:25,730 --> 00:17:25,911

[abbe_greenberg]: fine

 

2867

00:17:25,906 --> 00:17:26,086

[maggie]: lion

 

2868

00:17:25,951 --> 00:17:26,512

[abbe_greenberg]: and i functioned

 

2869

00:17:26,327 --> 00:17:26,728

[maggie]: felt fine

 

2870

00:17:26,572 --> 00:17:26,792

[abbe_greenberg]: really

 

2871

00:17:26,768 --> 00:17:26,848

[maggie]: and

 

2872

00:17:26,852 --> 00:17:27,073

[abbe_greenberg]: well

 

2873

00:17:26,988 --> 00:17:27,609

[maggie]: functioned really

 

2874

00:17:27,633 --> 00:17:27,653

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

2875

00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:27,869

[maggie]: well

 

2876

00:17:27,754 --> 00:17:28,375

[abbe_greenberg]: excelled at

 

2877

00:17:28,450 --> 00:17:28,470

[maggie]: i

 

2878

00:17:28,475 --> 00:17:28,916

[abbe_greenberg]: sports

 

2879

00:17:28,571 --> 00:17:29,051

[maggie]: excelled

 

2880

00:17:29,036 --> 00:17:29,056

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

2881

00:17:29,132 --> 00:17:29,192

[maggie]: in

 

2882

00:17:29,136 --> 00:17:29,436

[abbe_greenberg]: excelled

 

2883

00:17:29,312 --> 00:17:29,733

[maggie]: sports

 

2884

00:17:29,497 --> 00:17:29,977

[abbe_greenberg]: at music

 

2885

00:17:30,053 --> 00:17:30,233

[maggie]: celled

 

2886

00:17:30,078 --> 00:17:30,518

[abbe_greenberg]: i was a good

 

2887

00:17:30,434 --> 00:17:30,794

[maggie]: music

 

2888

00:17:30,618 --> 00:17:30,959

[abbe_greenberg]: student

 

2889

00:17:30,894 --> 00:17:31,055

[maggie]: i was

 

2890

00:17:30,999 --> 00:17:31,199

[abbe_greenberg]: in other

 

2891

00:17:31,115 --> 00:17:31,135

[maggie]: a

 

2892

00:17:31,219 --> 00:17:31,360

[abbe_greenberg]: words

 

2893

00:17:31,415 --> 00:17:31,756

[maggie]: student

 

2894

00:17:31,420 --> 00:17:32,241

[abbe_greenberg]: i really experienced

 

2895

00:17:31,876 --> 00:17:32,237

[maggie]: otherwise i

 

2896

00:17:32,301 --> 00:17:32,421

[abbe_greenberg]: a lot

 

2897

00:17:32,377 --> 00:17:32,557

[maggie]: really

 

2898

00:17:32,542 --> 00:17:32,582

[abbe_greenberg]: of

 

2899

00:17:32,597 --> 00:17:33,018

[maggie]: experienced

 

2900

00:17:32,662 --> 00:17:33,185

[abbe_greenberg]: success

 

2901

00:17:33,098 --> 00:17:34,000

[maggie]: a lot success

 

2902

00:17:33,928 --> 00:17:34,651

[abbe_greenberg]: so i think that

 

2903

00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:34,801

[maggie]: so

 

2904

00:17:34,892 --> 00:17:35,053

[abbe_greenberg]: that

 

2905

00:17:34,901 --> 00:17:35,182

[maggie]: i think

 

2906

00:17:35,174 --> 00:17:35,636

[abbe_greenberg]: reenforced

 

2907

00:17:35,282 --> 00:17:35,823

[maggie]: that that

 

2908

00:17:35,676 --> 00:17:35,977

[abbe_greenberg]: the neural

 

2909

00:17:35,943 --> 00:17:36,424

[maggie]: reinforced

 

2910

00:17:36,017 --> 00:17:36,520

[abbe_greenberg]: pathways

 

2911

00:17:36,464 --> 00:17:37,245

[maggie]: the normal pathways

 

2912

00:17:36,813 --> 00:17:37,095

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2913

00:17:37,882 --> 00:17:38,383

[abbe_greenberg]: and it really

 

2914

00:17:38,147 --> 00:17:38,868

[maggie]: right and it

 

2915

00:17:38,844 --> 00:17:39,125

[abbe_greenberg]: became

 

2916

00:17:38,948 --> 00:17:39,188

[maggie]: really

 

2917

00:17:39,165 --> 00:17:39,505

[abbe_greenberg]: a built

 

2918

00:17:39,540 --> 00:17:40,290

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2919

00:17:39,605 --> 00:17:39,665

[abbe_greenberg]: in

 

2920

00:17:39,629 --> 00:17:39,909

[maggie]: became

 

2921

00:17:39,766 --> 00:17:40,046

[abbe_greenberg]: thing

 

2922

00:17:39,970 --> 00:17:40,290

[maggie]: a built

 

2923

00:17:40,226 --> 00:17:40,347

[abbe_greenberg]: for

 

2924

00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:40,430

[maggie]: in

 

2925

00:17:40,407 --> 00:17:40,467

[abbe_greenberg]: me

 

2926

00:17:40,571 --> 00:17:40,811

[maggie]: thing

 

2927

00:17:40,627 --> 00:17:41,008

[abbe_greenberg]: that oh

 

2928

00:17:41,011 --> 00:17:41,252

[maggie]: for me

 

2929

00:17:41,268 --> 00:17:41,488

[abbe_greenberg]: okay

 

2930

00:17:41,412 --> 00:17:41,552

[maggie]: that

 

2931

00:17:41,649 --> 00:17:41,949

[abbe_greenberg]: when i'm

 

2932

00:17:42,053 --> 00:17:42,293

[maggie]: okay

 

2933

00:17:42,130 --> 00:17:42,550

[abbe_greenberg]: anxious about

 

2934

00:17:42,434 --> 00:17:42,574

[maggie]: when

 

2935

00:17:42,590 --> 00:17:42,891

[abbe_greenberg]: something

 

2936

00:17:42,654 --> 00:17:43,135

[maggie]: i'm anxious

 

2937

00:17:43,051 --> 00:17:43,071

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

2938

00:17:43,175 --> 00:17:43,335

[maggie]: about

 

2939

00:17:43,211 --> 00:17:43,392

[abbe_greenberg]: have

 

2940

00:17:43,375 --> 00:17:43,696

[maggie]: something

 

2941

00:17:43,432 --> 00:17:44,113

[abbe_greenberg]: a nice ritual

 

2942

00:17:43,836 --> 00:17:44,437

[maggie]: i have a nice

 

2943

00:17:44,333 --> 00:17:44,473

[abbe_greenberg]: and i

 

2944

00:17:44,517 --> 00:17:44,898

[maggie]: ritual

 

2945

00:17:44,554 --> 00:17:45,475

[abbe_greenberg]: still do to this day

 

2946

00:17:45,479 --> 00:17:45,559

[maggie]: ll

 

2947

00:17:45,515 --> 00:17:45,555

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

2948

00:17:45,579 --> 00:17:45,680

[maggie]: do

 

2949

00:17:45,595 --> 00:17:45,736

[abbe_greenberg]: mean

 

2950

00:17:45,820 --> 00:17:45,900

[maggie]: to

 

2951

00:17:45,856 --> 00:17:45,876

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

2952

00:17:45,940 --> 00:17:46,482

[maggie]: this day i mean

 

2953

00:17:46,517 --> 00:17:46,617

[abbe_greenberg]: am

 

2954

00:17:46,622 --> 00:17:46,663

[maggie]: i

 

2955

00:17:46,918 --> 00:17:47,338

[abbe_greenberg]: you know my

 

2956

00:17:47,304 --> 00:17:47,365

[maggie]: am

 

2957

00:17:47,340 --> 00:17:48,060

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

2958

00:17:47,726 --> 00:17:47,926

[maggie]: you know

 

2959

00:17:47,899 --> 00:17:47,919

[abbe_greenberg]: o

 

2960

00:17:48,007 --> 00:17:48,127

[maggie]: my

 

2961

00:17:48,019 --> 00:17:48,801

[abbe_greenberg]: c d is completely

 

2962

00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:48,829

[maggie]: c

 

2963

00:17:48,881 --> 00:17:49,281

[abbe_greenberg]: managed

 

2964

00:17:48,929 --> 00:17:49,571

[maggie]: v is completely

 

2965

00:17:49,403 --> 00:17:49,766

[abbe_greenberg]: and i take

 

2966

00:17:49,672 --> 00:17:50,053

[maggie]: managed

 

2967

00:17:49,827 --> 00:17:50,272

[abbe_greenberg]: medication

 

2968

00:17:50,213 --> 00:17:50,354

[maggie]: and i

 

2969

00:17:50,373 --> 00:17:50,494

[abbe_greenberg]: for

 

2970

00:17:50,434 --> 00:17:50,554

[maggie]: take

 

2971

00:17:50,575 --> 00:17:50,636

[abbe_greenberg]: it

 

2972

00:17:50,614 --> 00:17:51,296

[maggie]: medication for

 

2973

00:17:51,272 --> 00:17:51,473

[abbe_greenberg]: but

 

2974

00:17:51,357 --> 00:17:52,280

[maggie]: it but

 

2975

00:17:52,438 --> 00:17:53,443

[abbe_greenberg]: i still have some compulsions

 

2976

00:17:53,225 --> 00:17:53,466

[maggie]: i still

 

2977

00:17:53,463 --> 00:17:53,564

[abbe_greenberg]: that

 

2978

00:17:53,506 --> 00:17:53,607

[maggie]: have

 

2979

00:17:53,624 --> 00:17:53,644

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

2980

00:17:53,627 --> 00:17:53,748

[maggie]: some

 

2981

00:17:53,704 --> 00:17:54,006

[abbe_greenberg]: allow

 

2982

00:17:53,808 --> 00:17:54,210

[maggie]: compulsions

 

2983

00:17:54,126 --> 00:17:54,529

[abbe_greenberg]: myself

 

2984

00:17:54,250 --> 00:17:55,296

[maggie]: that i allow myself

 

2985

00:17:55,542 --> 00:17:56,325

[abbe_greenberg]: dude because i know they're

 

2986

00:17:56,339 --> 00:17:56,419

[maggie]: do

 

2987

00:17:56,385 --> 00:17:56,626

[abbe_greenberg]: soothing

 

2988

00:17:56,519 --> 00:17:56,699

[maggie]: because

 

2989

00:17:56,646 --> 00:17:56,847

[abbe_greenberg]: an they're

 

2990

00:17:56,719 --> 00:17:56,900

[maggie]: i know

 

2991

00:17:56,867 --> 00:17:56,927

[abbe_greenberg]: not

 

2992

00:17:56,940 --> 00:17:57,060

[maggie]: there

 

2993

00:17:56,947 --> 00:17:57,108

[abbe_greenberg]: gonna

 

2994

00:17:57,140 --> 00:17:57,401

[maggie]: soothing

 

2995

00:17:57,148 --> 00:17:57,630

[abbe_greenberg]: hurt anybody

 

2996

00:17:57,421 --> 00:17:57,561

[maggie]: and her

 

2997

00:17:57,550 --> 00:17:57,711

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

2998

00:17:57,621 --> 00:17:58,002

[maggie]: not going to hurt

 

2999

00:17:58,071 --> 00:17:58,131

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

3000

00:17:58,082 --> 00:17:58,402

[maggie]: anybody

 

3001

00:17:58,251 --> 00:17:58,913

[juliet_hahn]: you know that's the

 

3002

00:17:58,883 --> 00:17:59,023

[maggie]: right

 

3003

00:17:58,993 --> 00:17:59,433

[juliet_hahn]: interesting

 

3004

00:17:59,103 --> 00:17:59,464

[maggie]: and so

 

3005

00:17:59,514 --> 00:17:59,754

[juliet_hahn]: thing

 

3006

00:17:59,584 --> 00:18:00,065

[maggie]: you know that's

 

3007

00:17:59,914 --> 00:18:00,235

[juliet_hahn]: and that's

 

3008

00:18:00,145 --> 00:18:00,225

[maggie]: the

 

3009

00:18:00,295 --> 00:18:00,475

[juliet_hahn]: where

 

3010

00:18:00,325 --> 00:18:00,746

[maggie]: interesting

 

3011

00:18:00,615 --> 00:18:00,956

[juliet_hahn]: again we're

 

3012

00:18:00,846 --> 00:18:01,087

[maggie]: thing

 

3013

00:18:00,976 --> 00:18:01,256

[juliet_hahn]: not going to

 

3014

00:18:01,247 --> 00:18:01,327

[maggie]: and

 

3015

00:18:01,276 --> 00:18:01,377

[juliet_hahn]: get

 

3016

00:18:01,367 --> 00:18:01,547

[maggie]: that's

 

3017

00:18:01,437 --> 00:18:01,617

[juliet_hahn]: into

 

3018

00:18:01,608 --> 00:18:01,828

[maggie]: where

 

3019

00:18:01,857 --> 00:18:02,038

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

3020

00:18:01,968 --> 00:18:02,148

[maggie]: again

 

3021

00:18:02,138 --> 00:18:02,338

[juliet_hahn]: part

 

3022

00:18:02,189 --> 00:18:02,409

[maggie]: we're not

 

3023

00:18:02,418 --> 00:18:02,458

[juliet_hahn]: of

 

3024

00:18:02,429 --> 00:18:02,549

[maggie]: going

 

3025

00:18:02,499 --> 00:18:02,679

[juliet_hahn]: things

 

3026

00:18:02,569 --> 00:18:02,729

[maggie]: to get

 

3027

00:18:02,739 --> 00:18:02,819

[juliet_hahn]: but

 

3028

00:18:02,790 --> 00:18:02,990

[maggie]: into

 

3029

00:18:02,899 --> 00:18:03,240

[juliet_hahn]: it always

 

3030

00:18:03,210 --> 00:18:03,370

[maggie]: that

 

3031

00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:03,801

[juliet_hahn]: fascinates

 

3032

00:18:03,491 --> 00:18:04,032

[maggie]: part of things

 

3033

00:18:03,861 --> 00:18:04,181

[juliet_hahn]: me because

 

3034

00:18:04,092 --> 00:18:04,192

[maggie]: but

 

3035

00:18:04,221 --> 00:18:04,302

[juliet_hahn]: as

 

3036

00:18:04,252 --> 00:18:04,312

[maggie]: it

 

3037

00:18:04,322 --> 00:18:04,422

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

3038

00:18:04,372 --> 00:18:04,593

[maggie]: always

 

3039

00:18:04,502 --> 00:18:04,662

[juliet_hahn]: said

 

3040

00:18:04,653 --> 00:18:05,153

[maggie]: fascinates

 

3041

00:18:05,103 --> 00:18:05,183

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

3042

00:18:05,214 --> 00:18:05,274

[maggie]: me

 

3043

00:18:05,303 --> 00:18:05,463

[juliet_hahn]: did

 

3044

00:18:05,334 --> 00:18:05,514

[maggie]: because

 

3045

00:18:05,504 --> 00:18:05,624

[juliet_hahn]: them

 

3046

00:18:05,594 --> 00:18:05,774

[maggie]: as you

 

3047

00:18:05,704 --> 00:18:05,884

[juliet_hahn]: and then

 

3048

00:18:05,855 --> 00:18:06,015

[maggie]: said

 

3049

00:18:05,924 --> 00:18:06,505

[juliet_hahn]: it was like okay that

 

3050

00:18:06,456 --> 00:18:06,556

[maggie]: you

 

3051

00:18:06,565 --> 00:18:06,746

[juliet_hahn]: felt

 

3052

00:18:06,656 --> 00:18:07,117

[maggie]: did them and

 

3053

00:18:07,106 --> 00:18:07,226

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

3054

00:18:07,137 --> 00:18:07,317

[maggie]: then it

 

3055

00:18:07,307 --> 00:18:07,467

[juliet_hahn]: felt

 

3056

00:18:07,337 --> 00:18:07,517

[maggie]: was like

 

3057

00:18:07,547 --> 00:18:07,807

[juliet_hahn]: better

 

3058

00:18:07,557 --> 00:18:08,098

[maggie]: okay that felt

 

3059

00:18:07,968 --> 00:18:08,669

[juliet_hahn]: my anxiety

 

3060

00:18:08,419 --> 00:18:08,780

[maggie]: that felt

 

3061

00:18:08,749 --> 00:18:09,029

[juliet_hahn]: s gone

 

3062

00:18:08,860 --> 00:18:09,100

[maggie]: better

 

3063

00:18:09,170 --> 00:18:09,250

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

3064

00:18:09,300 --> 00:18:09,982

[maggie]: my anxiety

 

3065

00:18:09,630 --> 00:18:09,731

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

3066

00:18:10,022 --> 00:18:10,302

[maggie]: is gone

 

3067

00:18:10,251 --> 00:18:10,432

[juliet_hahn]: self

 

3068

00:18:10,362 --> 00:18:10,442

[maggie]: so

 

3069

00:18:10,572 --> 00:18:11,113

[juliet_hahn]: suite yourself

 

3070

00:18:10,943 --> 00:18:11,043

[maggie]: you

 

3071

00:18:11,193 --> 00:18:11,614

[juliet_hahn]: just like my

 

3072

00:18:11,584 --> 00:18:11,785

[maggie]: self

 

3073

00:18:11,714 --> 00:18:12,054

[juliet_hahn]: son would

 

3074

00:18:12,005 --> 00:18:12,145

[maggie]: use

 

3075

00:18:12,115 --> 00:18:12,355

[juliet_hahn]: bring

 

3076

00:18:12,165 --> 00:18:12,446

[maggie]: yourself

 

3077

00:18:12,495 --> 00:18:12,515

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

3078

00:18:12,546 --> 00:18:12,666

[maggie]: just

 

3079

00:18:12,595 --> 00:18:12,736

[juliet_hahn]: book

 

3080

00:18:12,706 --> 00:18:12,826

[maggie]: like

 

3081

00:18:12,816 --> 00:18:12,976

[juliet_hahn]: home

 

3082

00:18:12,866 --> 00:18:12,946

[maggie]: my

 

3083

00:18:12,996 --> 00:18:13,076

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

3084

00:18:13,047 --> 00:18:13,187

[maggie]: son

 

3085

00:18:13,116 --> 00:18:13,196

[juliet_hahn]: say

 

3086

00:18:13,247 --> 00:18:13,387

[maggie]: would

 

3087

00:18:13,256 --> 00:18:13,437

[juliet_hahn]: mom

 

3088

00:18:13,447 --> 00:18:13,688

[maggie]: bring

 

3089

00:18:13,517 --> 00:18:13,938

[juliet_hahn]: can you read

 

3090

00:18:13,828 --> 00:18:14,068

[maggie]: a book

 

3091

00:18:13,978 --> 00:18:14,098

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

3092

00:18:14,128 --> 00:18:14,309

[maggie]: home

 

3093

00:18:14,138 --> 00:18:14,318

[juliet_hahn]: to me

 

3094

00:18:14,329 --> 00:18:14,409

[maggie]: and

 

3095

00:18:14,398 --> 00:18:14,458

[juliet_hahn]: he

 

3096

00:18:14,449 --> 00:18:14,549

[maggie]: say

 

3097

00:18:14,519 --> 00:18:14,659

[juliet_hahn]: would

 

3098

00:18:14,589 --> 00:18:14,930

[maggie]: mom can

 

3099

00:18:14,919 --> 00:18:14,999

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

3100

00:18:14,970 --> 00:18:15,070

[maggie]: you

 

3101

00:18:15,059 --> 00:18:15,160

[juliet_hahn]: know

 

3102

00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:15,531

[maggie]: read that to

 

3103

00:18:15,540 --> 00:18:15,781

[juliet_hahn]: figure

 

3104

00:18:15,571 --> 00:18:15,971

[maggie]: me he would

 

3105

00:18:16,021 --> 00:18:16,121

[juliet_hahn]: out

 

3106

00:18:16,232 --> 00:18:16,312

[maggie]: you

 

3107

00:18:16,302 --> 00:18:17,203

[juliet_hahn]: how to manage

 

3108

00:18:16,853 --> 00:18:17,133

[maggie]: figure

 

3109

00:18:17,283 --> 00:18:17,343

[juliet_hahn]: in

 

3110

00:18:17,354 --> 00:18:17,454

[maggie]: out

 

3111

00:18:17,443 --> 00:18:17,704

[juliet_hahn]: life

 

3112

00:18:17,634 --> 00:18:18,055

[maggie]: how to

 

3113

00:18:18,044 --> 00:18:18,425

[juliet_hahn]: without

 

3114

00:18:18,155 --> 00:18:18,496

[maggie]: manage

 

3115

00:18:18,525 --> 00:18:18,706

[juliet_hahn]: kind

 

3116

00:18:18,596 --> 00:18:18,997

[maggie]: in life

 

3117

00:18:18,786 --> 00:18:19,407

[juliet_hahn]: of you

 

3118

00:18:19,337 --> 00:18:19,477

[maggie]: with

 

3119

00:18:19,487 --> 00:18:19,547

[juliet_hahn]: now

 

3120

00:18:19,577 --> 00:18:19,778

[maggie]: adult

 

3121

00:18:19,627 --> 00:18:20,148

[juliet_hahn]: not knowing

 

3122

00:18:19,838 --> 00:18:20,118

[maggie]: kind of

 

3123

00:18:20,208 --> 00:18:20,869

[juliet_hahn]: that everyone

 

3124

00:18:20,619 --> 00:18:20,860

[maggie]: you know

 

3125

00:18:20,909 --> 00:18:21,009

[juliet_hahn]: else

 

3126

00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:21,421

[maggie]: not knowing

 

3127

00:18:21,230 --> 00:18:21,510

[juliet_hahn]: actually

 

3128

00:18:21,501 --> 00:18:21,621

[maggie]: that

 

3129

00:18:21,570 --> 00:18:21,911

[juliet_hahn]: reading

 

3130

00:18:21,881 --> 00:18:22,162

[maggie]: everyone

 

3131

00:18:22,091 --> 00:18:22,211

[juliet_hahn]: your

 

3132

00:18:22,202 --> 00:18:22,322

[maggie]: else

 

3133

00:18:22,292 --> 00:18:22,913

[juliet_hahn]: memorizing

 

3134

00:18:22,382 --> 00:18:23,244

[maggie]: is actually reading

 

3135

00:18:23,053 --> 00:18:23,213

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

3136

00:18:23,404 --> 00:18:23,524

[maggie]: your

 

3137

00:18:23,433 --> 00:18:23,674

[juliet_hahn]: he didn't

 

3138

00:18:23,604 --> 00:18:24,225

[maggie]: memorizing

 

3139

00:18:23,714 --> 00:18:24,415

[juliet_hahn]: obviously know that

 

3140

00:18:24,386 --> 00:18:24,526

[maggie]: right

 

3141

00:18:24,455 --> 00:18:24,736

[juliet_hahn]: he was just

 

3142

00:18:24,726 --> 00:18:24,786

[maggie]: he

 

3143

00:18:24,756 --> 00:18:24,856

[juliet_hahn]: like

 

3144

00:18:24,846 --> 00:18:24,987

[maggie]: didn't

 

3145

00:18:24,876 --> 00:18:25,136

[juliet_hahn]: oh i don't

 

3146

00:18:25,027 --> 00:18:25,347

[maggie]: obviously

 

3147

00:18:25,176 --> 00:18:25,357

[juliet_hahn]: know how

 

3148

00:18:25,387 --> 00:18:25,507

[maggie]: know

 

3149

00:18:25,397 --> 00:18:25,557

[juliet_hahn]: to say

 

3150

00:18:25,608 --> 00:18:25,728

[maggie]: that

 

3151

00:18:25,617 --> 00:18:25,757

[juliet_hahn]: those

 

3152

00:18:25,768 --> 00:18:25,828

[maggie]: he

 

3153

00:18:25,797 --> 00:18:26,018

[juliet_hahn]: words

 

3154

00:18:25,848 --> 00:18:26,048

[maggie]: was just

 

3155

00:18:26,058 --> 00:18:26,138

[juliet_hahn]: but

 

3156

00:18:26,068 --> 00:18:26,168

[maggie]: like

 

3157

00:18:26,178 --> 00:18:26,278

[juliet_hahn]: why

 

3158

00:18:26,209 --> 00:18:26,309

[maggie]: oh i

 

3159

00:18:26,318 --> 00:18:26,398

[juliet_hahn]: my

 

3160

00:18:26,329 --> 00:18:26,449

[maggie]: don't

 

3161

00:18:26,458 --> 00:18:26,619

[juliet_hahn]: mom

 

3162

00:18:26,469 --> 00:18:26,669

[maggie]: know how

 

3163

00:18:26,659 --> 00:18:26,839

[juliet_hahn]: reads

 

3164

00:18:26,709 --> 00:18:26,870

[maggie]: to say

 

3165

00:18:26,899 --> 00:18:26,939

[juliet_hahn]: it

 

3166

00:18:26,930 --> 00:18:27,070

[maggie]: those

 

3167

00:18:27,019 --> 00:18:27,039

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

3168

00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:27,330

[maggie]: words

 

3169

00:18:27,140 --> 00:18:27,480

[juliet_hahn]: memorized

 

3170

00:18:27,370 --> 00:18:27,591

[maggie]: but when

 

3171

00:18:27,580 --> 00:18:27,620

[juliet_hahn]: it

 

3172

00:18:27,631 --> 00:18:27,711

[maggie]: my

 

3173

00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:27,761

[juliet_hahn]: then

 

3174

00:18:27,771 --> 00:18:27,931

[maggie]: mom

 

3175

00:18:27,801 --> 00:18:27,961

[juliet_hahn]: i put

 

3176

00:18:27,971 --> 00:18:28,152

[maggie]: reads

 

3177

00:18:28,001 --> 00:18:28,241

[juliet_hahn]: it down

 

3178

00:18:28,212 --> 00:18:28,753

[maggie]: it i memorize

 

3179

00:18:28,622 --> 00:18:28,802

[juliet_hahn]: i can

 

3180

00:18:28,893 --> 00:18:28,933

[maggie]: it

 

3181

00:18:29,003 --> 00:18:29,243

[juliet_hahn]: read it

 

3182

00:18:29,194 --> 00:18:29,294

[maggie]: put

 

3183

00:18:29,263 --> 00:18:29,403

[juliet_hahn]: back

 

3184

00:18:29,334 --> 00:18:29,534

[maggie]: it down

 

3185

00:18:29,443 --> 00:18:29,924

[juliet_hahn]: to the teacher

 

3186

00:18:29,955 --> 00:18:30,556

[maggie]: i can read it

 

3187

00:18:30,565 --> 00:18:30,625

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

3188

00:18:30,576 --> 00:18:30,716

[maggie]: back

 

3189

00:18:30,726 --> 00:18:30,826

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

3190

00:18:30,776 --> 00:18:30,836

[maggie]: to

 

3191

00:18:30,866 --> 00:18:30,986

[juliet_hahn]: were

 

3192

00:18:30,876 --> 00:18:31,257

[maggie]: the teacher

 

3193

00:18:31,026 --> 00:18:31,847

[juliet_hahn]: doing the same sort of

 

3194

00:18:31,898 --> 00:18:31,978

[maggie]: so

 

3195

00:18:31,928 --> 00:18:32,128

[juliet_hahn]: thing

 

3196

00:18:32,058 --> 00:18:32,138

[maggie]: you

 

3197

00:18:32,168 --> 00:18:32,308

[juliet_hahn]: which

 

3198

00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:32,519

[maggie]: doing

 

3199

00:18:32,368 --> 00:18:32,448

[juliet_hahn]: is

 

3200

00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:32,840

[maggie]: the same

 

3201

00:18:32,889 --> 00:18:33,090

[juliet_hahn]: real

 

3202

00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:33,160

[maggie]: sort of

 

3203

00:18:33,230 --> 00:18:33,991

[juliet_hahn]: fascinating

 

3204

00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:33,721

[maggie]: thing which is

 

3205

00:18:34,111 --> 00:18:34,251

[juliet_hahn]: when

 

3206

00:18:34,182 --> 00:18:34,442

[maggie]: really

 

3207

00:18:34,292 --> 00:18:34,712

[juliet_hahn]: we think

 

3208

00:18:34,542 --> 00:18:35,284

[maggie]: fascinating

 

3209

00:18:34,973 --> 00:18:35,333

[juliet_hahn]: about

 

3210

00:18:35,404 --> 00:18:36,005

[maggie]: when we think

 

3211

00:18:35,854 --> 00:18:36,936

[juliet_hahn]: the complexity

 

3212

00:18:36,285 --> 00:18:36,626

[maggie]: about

 

3213

00:18:37,116 --> 00:18:37,176

[juliet_hahn]: of

 

3214

00:18:37,187 --> 00:18:37,307

[maggie]: the

 

3215

00:18:37,256 --> 00:18:37,657

[juliet_hahn]: the human

 

3216

00:18:37,588 --> 00:18:38,249

[maggie]: complexity

 

3217

00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:37,978

[juliet_hahn]: brain

 

3218

00:18:38,429 --> 00:18:38,509

[maggie]: of

 

3219

00:18:38,438 --> 00:18:38,619

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

3220

00:18:38,549 --> 00:18:38,950

[maggie]: the human

 

3221

00:18:38,939 --> 00:18:39,019

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

3222

00:18:39,010 --> 00:18:39,250

[maggie]: brain

 

3223

00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:39,781

[juliet_hahn]: what it does

 

3224

00:18:39,811 --> 00:18:39,931

[maggie]: it

 

3225

00:18:39,901 --> 00:18:40,802

[juliet_hahn]: and what is learned

 

3226

00:18:40,512 --> 00:18:41,274

[maggie]: what it does and

 

3227

00:18:41,303 --> 00:18:41,624

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

3228

00:18:41,354 --> 00:18:42,135

[maggie]: what is learned

 

3229

00:18:41,844 --> 00:18:42,605

[juliet_hahn]: it helps and

 

3230

00:18:42,616 --> 00:18:42,936

[maggie]: because

 

3231

00:18:42,786 --> 00:18:43,186

[juliet_hahn]: how you

 

3232

00:18:43,177 --> 00:18:43,237

[maggie]: it

 

3233

00:18:43,226 --> 00:18:43,427

[juliet_hahn]: know if

 

3234

00:18:43,417 --> 00:18:43,758

[maggie]: helps

 

3235

00:18:43,487 --> 00:18:43,928

[juliet_hahn]: a child

 

3236

00:18:43,858 --> 00:18:43,918

[maggie]: and

 

3237

00:18:44,048 --> 00:18:45,009

[juliet_hahn]: is in a situation

 

3238

00:18:44,399 --> 00:18:45,220

[maggie]: you know if a child

 

3239

00:18:45,250 --> 00:18:45,270

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

3240

00:18:45,340 --> 00:18:45,401

[maggie]: is

 

3241

00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:45,530

[juliet_hahn]: young

 

3242

00:18:45,481 --> 00:18:45,641

[maggie]: in the

 

3243

00:18:45,650 --> 00:18:45,810

[juliet_hahn]: age

 

3244

00:18:45,681 --> 00:18:46,282

[maggie]: situation

 

3245

00:18:46,151 --> 00:18:46,371

[juliet_hahn]: whether

 

3246

00:18:46,402 --> 00:18:46,522

[maggie]: from

 

3247

00:18:46,411 --> 00:18:46,531

[juliet_hahn]: it's

 

3248

00:18:46,583 --> 00:18:46,603

[maggie]: a

 

3249

00:18:46,591 --> 00:18:46,751

[juliet_hahn]: good

 

3250

00:18:46,663 --> 00:18:46,843

[maggie]: young

 

3251

00:18:46,891 --> 00:18:46,951

[juliet_hahn]: or

 

3252

00:18:46,943 --> 00:18:47,123

[maggie]: age

 

3253

00:18:47,051 --> 00:18:47,392

[juliet_hahn]: bad

 

3254

00:18:47,464 --> 00:18:47,845

[maggie]: whether it's

 

3255

00:18:47,852 --> 00:18:47,992

[juliet_hahn]: how

 

3256

00:18:47,905 --> 00:18:48,065

[maggie]: good

 

3257

00:18:48,072 --> 00:18:48,233

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

3258

00:18:48,205 --> 00:18:48,265

[maggie]: or

 

3259

00:18:48,313 --> 00:18:48,733

[juliet_hahn]: developed

 

3260

00:18:48,365 --> 00:18:48,706

[maggie]: bad

 

3261

00:18:49,013 --> 00:18:49,514

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

3262

00:18:49,187 --> 00:18:49,527

[maggie]: how that

 

3263

00:18:49,574 --> 00:18:49,914

[juliet_hahn]: child's

 

3264

00:18:49,628 --> 00:18:50,028

[maggie]: developed

 

3265

00:18:49,974 --> 00:18:50,315

[juliet_hahn]: brain

 

3266

00:18:50,729 --> 00:18:50,830

[maggie]: that

 

3267

00:18:50,735 --> 00:18:50,815

[juliet_hahn]: to

 

3268

00:18:50,890 --> 00:18:51,210

[maggie]: child's

 

3269

00:18:50,895 --> 00:18:51,095

[juliet_hahn]: then

 

3270

00:18:51,290 --> 00:18:51,631

[maggie]: brain

 

3271

00:18:51,296 --> 00:18:52,156

[juliet_hahn]: you take on these

 

3272

00:18:52,052 --> 00:18:52,112

[maggie]: to

 

3273

00:18:52,196 --> 00:18:52,497

[juliet_hahn]: paths

 

3274

00:18:52,212 --> 00:18:52,693

[maggie]: then you

 

3275

00:18:52,677 --> 00:18:52,897

[juliet_hahn]: as you

 

3276

00:18:52,953 --> 00:18:53,133

[maggie]: take

 

3277

00:18:52,997 --> 00:18:53,177

[juliet_hahn]: said

 

3278

00:18:53,214 --> 00:18:53,815

[maggie]: on these paths

 

3279

00:18:53,618 --> 00:18:53,738

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

3280

00:18:53,995 --> 00:18:54,215

[maggie]: as you

 

3281

00:18:54,178 --> 00:18:54,399

[juliet_hahn]: you know

 

3282

00:18:54,315 --> 00:18:54,496

[maggie]: said

 

3283

00:18:54,539 --> 00:18:54,779

[juliet_hahn]: go ahead

 

3284

00:18:54,936 --> 00:18:55,898

[maggie]: so you know go

 

3285

00:18:55,892 --> 00:18:55,912

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

3286

00:18:55,938 --> 00:18:56,078

[maggie]: ahead

 

3287

00:18:55,952 --> 00:18:56,993

[abbe_greenberg]: was going to say the more

 

3288

00:18:56,769 --> 00:18:57,351

[maggie]: was going to say the

 

3289

00:18:57,314 --> 00:18:57,514

[abbe_greenberg]: that

 

3290

00:18:57,451 --> 00:18:57,812

[maggie]: more

 

3291

00:18:57,755 --> 00:18:58,235

[abbe_greenberg]: the more time

 

3292

00:18:58,133 --> 00:18:58,354

[maggie]: that

 

3293

00:18:58,260 --> 00:18:58,486

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

3294

00:18:58,295 --> 00:18:58,576

[abbe_greenberg]: i spend

 

3295

00:18:58,555 --> 00:18:58,635

[maggie]: the

 

3296

00:18:58,616 --> 00:18:58,776

[abbe_greenberg]: doing

 

3297

00:18:58,695 --> 00:18:58,796

[maggie]: more

 

3298

00:18:58,836 --> 00:18:59,277

[abbe_greenberg]: research

 

3299

00:18:58,876 --> 00:18:59,578

[maggie]: time i spend in

 

3300

00:18:59,658 --> 00:19:00,018

[abbe_greenberg]: into

 

3301

00:18:59,658 --> 00:19:00,100

[maggie]: research

 

3302

00:19:00,179 --> 00:19:00,519

[abbe_greenberg]: brain

 

3303

00:19:00,501 --> 00:19:00,842

[maggie]: into

 

3304

00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:00,940

[abbe_greenberg]: nero

 

3305

00:19:00,983 --> 00:19:01,324

[maggie]: brain

 

3306

00:19:01,060 --> 00:19:01,521

[abbe_greenberg]: science

 

3307

00:19:01,444 --> 00:19:02,327

[maggie]: and nero science

 

3308

00:19:02,302 --> 00:19:03,065

[abbe_greenberg]: more i've come

 

3309

00:19:03,109 --> 00:19:03,270

[maggie]: more

 

3310

00:19:03,146 --> 00:19:03,768

[abbe_greenberg]: to understand

 

3311

00:19:03,451 --> 00:19:03,872

[maggie]: i've come

 

3312

00:19:03,829 --> 00:19:03,929

[abbe_greenberg]: that

 

3313

00:19:03,953 --> 00:19:04,013

[maggie]: to

 

3314

00:19:03,969 --> 00:19:04,110

[abbe_greenberg]: there

 

3315

00:19:04,073 --> 00:19:04,576

[maggie]: understand

 

3316

00:19:04,190 --> 00:19:04,572

[abbe_greenberg]: isn't any

 

3317

00:19:04,636 --> 00:19:04,736

[maggie]: that

 

3318

00:19:04,652 --> 00:19:04,813

[abbe_greenberg]: such

 

3319

00:19:04,777 --> 00:19:04,937

[maggie]: there

 

3320

00:19:04,853 --> 00:19:04,994

[abbe_greenberg]: thing

 

3321

00:19:04,998 --> 00:19:05,198

[maggie]: isn't

 

3322

00:19:05,034 --> 00:19:05,255

[abbe_greenberg]: as the

 

3323

00:19:05,279 --> 00:19:05,399

[maggie]: any

 

3324

00:19:05,295 --> 00:19:05,456

[abbe_greenberg]: neuro

 

3325

00:19:05,460 --> 00:19:05,600

[maggie]: such

 

3326

00:19:05,536 --> 00:19:05,858

[abbe_greenberg]: typical

 

3327

00:19:05,661 --> 00:19:05,922

[maggie]: thing as

 

3328

00:19:05,918 --> 00:19:06,139

[abbe_greenberg]: brain

 

3329

00:19:05,962 --> 00:19:06,665

[maggie]: the neuro typical

 

3330

00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:06,581

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

3331

00:19:06,725 --> 00:19:06,926

[maggie]: brain

 

3332

00:19:07,472 --> 00:19:07,833

[abbe_greenberg]: really

 

3333

00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:08,302

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3334

00:19:08,274 --> 00:19:09,136

[abbe_greenberg]: really have come to

 

3335

00:19:09,092 --> 00:19:09,413

[maggie]: really

 

3336

00:19:09,176 --> 00:19:09,718

[abbe_greenberg]: believe that

 

3337

00:19:09,633 --> 00:19:09,793

[maggie]: come

 

3338

00:19:09,778 --> 00:19:09,858

[abbe_greenberg]: we

 

3339

00:19:09,854 --> 00:19:10,295

[maggie]: to believe

 

3340

00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:10,460

[abbe_greenberg]: all

 

3341

00:19:10,375 --> 00:19:11,197

[maggie]: that we all

 

3342

00:19:11,121 --> 00:19:12,023

[abbe_greenberg]: our brains are so

 

3343

00:19:12,079 --> 00:19:12,360

[maggie]: brains

 

3344

00:19:12,144 --> 00:19:12,445

[abbe_greenberg]: highly

 

3345

00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:12,500

[maggie]: are

 

3346

00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:12,886

[abbe_greenberg]: adaptive

 

3347

00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,222

[maggie]: so highly

 

3348

00:19:12,946 --> 00:19:13,186

[abbe_greenberg]: and so

 

3349

00:19:13,282 --> 00:19:13,703

[maggie]: adapted

 

3350

00:19:13,347 --> 00:19:13,848

[abbe_greenberg]: plastic

 

3351

00:19:13,743 --> 00:19:13,984

[maggie]: and so

 

3352

00:19:14,008 --> 00:19:14,470

[abbe_greenberg]: quotumquote

 

3353

00:19:14,184 --> 00:19:14,665

[maggie]: plastic

 

3354

00:19:14,510 --> 00:19:14,670

[abbe_greenberg]: right

 

3355

00:19:15,307 --> 00:19:15,487

[maggie]: right

 

3356

00:19:15,552 --> 00:19:16,333

[abbe_greenberg]: they've learned in the last

 

3357

00:19:16,349 --> 00:19:16,529

[maggie]: they've

 

3358

00:19:16,393 --> 00:19:16,593

[abbe_greenberg]: twenty

 

3359

00:19:16,589 --> 00:19:16,809

[maggie]: learned

 

3360

00:19:16,634 --> 00:19:16,894

[abbe_greenberg]: years is

 

3361

00:19:16,850 --> 00:19:16,970

[maggie]: in the

 

3362

00:19:16,934 --> 00:19:17,034

[abbe_greenberg]: that

 

3363

00:19:17,010 --> 00:19:17,130

[maggie]: last

 

3364

00:19:17,114 --> 00:19:17,194

[abbe_greenberg]: our

 

3365

00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:17,390

[maggie]: twenty

 

3366

00:19:17,275 --> 00:19:17,695

[abbe_greenberg]: brains

 

3367

00:19:17,430 --> 00:19:17,831

[maggie]: years is that

 

3368

00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:18,122

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

3369

00:19:17,896 --> 00:19:18,396

[abbe_greenberg]: change

 

3370

00:19:17,911 --> 00:19:19,173

[maggie]: our brains change

 

3371

00:19:18,777 --> 00:19:19,859

[abbe_greenberg]: in structure and function

 

3372

00:19:19,574 --> 00:19:20,095

[maggie]: in structure

 

3373

00:19:20,059 --> 00:19:20,179

[abbe_greenberg]: all

 

3374

00:19:20,175 --> 00:19:20,235

[maggie]: and

 

3375

00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:20,300

[abbe_greenberg]: the

 

3376

00:19:20,315 --> 00:19:20,616

[maggie]: function

 

3377

00:19:20,340 --> 00:19:20,961

[abbe_greenberg]: way through our course

 

3378

00:19:20,856 --> 00:19:21,077

[maggie]: all the

 

3379

00:19:21,021 --> 00:19:21,061

[abbe_greenberg]: of

 

3380

00:19:21,117 --> 00:19:21,197

[maggie]: way

 

3381

00:19:21,121 --> 00:19:21,201

[abbe_greenberg]: our

 

3382

00:19:21,217 --> 00:19:21,397

[maggie]: through

 

3383

00:19:21,241 --> 00:19:21,401

[abbe_greenberg]: life

 

3384

00:19:21,452 --> 00:19:21,613

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

3385

00:19:21,502 --> 00:19:21,642

[abbe_greenberg]: even

 

3386

00:19:21,557 --> 00:19:21,738

[maggie]: course

 

3387

00:19:21,702 --> 00:19:21,842

[abbe_greenberg]: into

 

3388

00:19:21,798 --> 00:19:21,958

[maggie]: of our

 

3389

00:19:21,902 --> 00:19:21,962

[abbe_greenberg]: our

 

3390

00:19:22,018 --> 00:19:22,178

[maggie]: life

 

3391

00:19:22,022 --> 00:19:22,423

[abbe_greenberg]: nineties

 

3392

00:19:22,279 --> 00:19:22,860

[maggie]: even in were

 

3393

00:19:23,204 --> 00:19:24,106

[abbe_greenberg]: so knowing

 

3394

00:19:23,981 --> 00:19:24,102

[maggie]: so

 

3395

00:19:24,266 --> 00:19:24,627

[abbe_greenberg]: that

 

3396

00:19:24,562 --> 00:19:24,903

[maggie]: knowing

 

3397

00:19:25,027 --> 00:19:25,048

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

3398

00:19:25,063 --> 00:19:25,404

[maggie]: that

 

3399

00:19:25,088 --> 00:19:25,649

[abbe_greenberg]: don't think there's

 

3400

00:19:25,804 --> 00:19:25,844

[maggie]: i

 

3401

00:19:25,809 --> 00:19:25,989

[abbe_greenberg]: any

 

3402

00:19:25,885 --> 00:19:26,445

[maggie]: don't think there's

 

3403

00:19:26,530 --> 00:19:26,670

[abbe_greenberg]: two

 

3404

00:19:26,606 --> 00:19:26,766

[maggie]: any

 

3405

00:19:26,770 --> 00:19:27,331

[abbe_greenberg]: brains that

 

3406

00:19:27,347 --> 00:19:27,968

[maggie]: two brains

 

3407

00:19:27,632 --> 00:19:28,153

[abbe_greenberg]: the same way

 

3408

00:19:28,048 --> 00:19:28,509

[maggie]: that we the

 

3409

00:19:28,554 --> 00:19:28,634

[abbe_greenberg]: and

 

3410

00:19:28,589 --> 00:19:28,870

[maggie]: same

 

3411

00:19:28,694 --> 00:19:29,495

[abbe_greenberg]: i think that our brains

 

3412

00:19:29,290 --> 00:19:29,390

[maggie]: way

 

3413

00:19:29,535 --> 00:19:30,257

[abbe_greenberg]: are miraculous

 

3414

00:19:29,771 --> 00:19:30,432

[maggie]: and i think that our

 

3415

00:19:30,337 --> 00:19:30,457

[abbe_greenberg]: they

 

3416

00:19:30,452 --> 00:19:30,693

[maggie]: brains

 

3417

00:19:30,537 --> 00:19:30,637

[abbe_greenberg]: do

 

3418

00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:31,470

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3419

00:19:30,753 --> 00:19:30,813

[maggie]: are

 

3420

00:19:30,818 --> 00:19:31,519

[abbe_greenberg]: incredible

 

3421

00:19:30,873 --> 00:19:31,414

[maggie]: miraculous

 

3422

00:19:31,639 --> 00:19:32,000

[abbe_greenberg]: things

 

3423

00:19:32,155 --> 00:19:32,576

[maggie]: credible

 

3424

00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:32,481

[abbe_greenberg]: and so

 

3425

00:19:32,656 --> 00:19:32,976

[maggie]: things

 

3426

00:19:32,882 --> 00:19:33,322

[abbe_greenberg]: there's nothing

 

3427

00:19:33,137 --> 00:19:33,437

[maggie]: and so

 

3428

00:19:33,623 --> 00:19:33,943

[abbe_greenberg]: typical

 

3429

00:19:33,818 --> 00:19:34,238

[maggie]: there's nothing

 

3430

00:19:34,124 --> 00:19:34,585

[abbe_greenberg]: about any

 

3431

00:19:34,539 --> 00:19:34,880

[maggie]: typical

 

3432

00:19:34,645 --> 00:19:35,246

[abbe_greenberg]: of our brains

 

3433

00:19:35,020 --> 00:19:35,220

[maggie]: about

 

3434

00:19:35,042 --> 00:19:35,266

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

3435

00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:35,581

[maggie]: any of

 

3436

00:19:35,566 --> 00:19:35,647

[abbe_greenberg]: or

 

3437

00:19:35,661 --> 00:19:36,122

[maggie]: our brains

 

3438

00:19:36,368 --> 00:19:37,730

[abbe_greenberg]: you know any of the things our

brains can do

 

3439

00:19:37,664 --> 00:19:37,885

[maggie]: the things

 

3440

00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:37,980

[juliet_hahn]: which

 

3441

00:19:37,945 --> 00:19:38,245

[maggie]: our brains

 

3442

00:19:38,041 --> 00:19:38,281

[juliet_hahn]: is just

 

3443

00:19:38,285 --> 00:19:38,365

[maggie]: can

 

3444

00:19:38,341 --> 00:19:38,923

[juliet_hahn]: fascinating

 

3445

00:19:38,445 --> 00:19:39,427

[maggie]: do which is

 

3446

00:19:39,484 --> 00:19:39,604

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

3447

00:19:39,587 --> 00:19:40,249

[maggie]: just fascinatin

 

3448

00:19:39,945 --> 00:19:40,847

[juliet_hahn]: now i want to go

 

3449

00:19:40,889 --> 00:19:41,010

[maggie]: so

 

3450

00:19:40,988 --> 00:19:41,309

[juliet_hahn]: to you

 

3451

00:19:41,330 --> 00:19:41,430

[maggie]: now

 

3452

00:19:41,369 --> 00:19:41,790

[juliet_hahn]: guys met

 

3453

00:19:41,851 --> 00:19:42,231

[maggie]: i want to go

 

3454

00:19:42,271 --> 00:19:42,612

[juliet_hahn]: university

 

3455

00:19:42,331 --> 00:19:42,672

[maggie]: to you

 

3456

00:19:42,672 --> 00:19:43,193

[juliet_hahn]: pennsylvania

 

3457

00:19:42,732 --> 00:19:43,914

[maggie]: guys met university

 

3458

00:19:43,654 --> 00:19:44,256

[juliet_hahn]: in the eighties

 

3459

00:19:43,934 --> 00:19:44,495

[maggie]: of pennsylvania

 

3460

00:19:44,396 --> 00:19:45,078

[juliet_hahn]: am i correct there

 

3461

00:19:44,995 --> 00:19:46,157

[maggie]: in the eighties and might correct

 

3462

00:19:46,624 --> 00:19:46,705

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

3463

00:19:47,449 --> 00:19:48,050

[maggie]: late eighties

 

3464

00:19:47,891 --> 00:19:48,313

[juliet_hahn]: late it is

 

3465

00:19:48,410 --> 00:19:49,652

[maggie]: late eighties can they just say

 

3466

00:19:49,702 --> 00:19:50,043

[abbe_greenberg]: almost

 

3467

00:19:49,753 --> 00:19:52,577

[maggie]: latitiswell

 

3468

00:19:50,123 --> 00:19:51,247

[abbe_greenberg]: nineties really was so

 

3469

00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,891

[juliet_hahn]: yes

 

3470

00:19:51,849 --> 00:19:52,210

[abbe_greenberg]: nineties

 

3471

00:19:54,991 --> 00:19:56,376

[juliet_hahn]: because when did you graduate university

 

3472

00:19:56,323 --> 00:19:56,504

[maggie]: because

 

3473

00:19:56,396 --> 00:19:56,858

[juliet_hahn]: of pensylvania

 

3474

00:19:56,724 --> 00:20:01,395

[maggie]: did you graduate university of penslvania i

abby graduated eighty eight i graduated

 

3475

00:20:01,462 --> 00:20:01,623

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3476

00:20:01,475 --> 00:20:01,996

[maggie]: eighty nine

 

3477

00:20:02,184 --> 00:20:03,566

[juliet_hahn]: that's very late it's late

 

3478

00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:03,700

[maggie]: that's

 

3479

00:20:03,626 --> 00:20:03,866

[juliet_hahn]: eighties

 

3480

00:20:03,740 --> 00:20:03,920

[maggie]: very

 

3481

00:20:03,926 --> 00:20:04,087

[juliet_hahn]: let's

 

3482

00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:04,141

[maggie]: late

 

3483

00:20:04,147 --> 00:20:04,207

[juliet_hahn]: say

 

3484

00:20:04,301 --> 00:20:05,122

[maggie]: is lady

 

3485

00:20:05,569 --> 00:20:05,770

[juliet_hahn]: late

 

3486

00:20:05,703 --> 00:20:07,667

[maggie]: ltadieslaadies

 

3487

00:20:05,850 --> 00:20:08,053

[juliet_hahn]: eighties so take us through that a

little bit

 

3488

00:20:08,067 --> 00:20:08,167

[maggie]: so

 

3489

00:20:08,133 --> 00:20:08,474

[juliet_hahn]: how you

 

3490

00:20:08,468 --> 00:20:08,648

[maggie]: take

 

3491

00:20:08,514 --> 00:20:08,915

[juliet_hahn]: connected

 

3492

00:20:08,688 --> 00:20:09,189

[maggie]: us through that

 

3493

00:20:09,095 --> 00:20:09,335

[juliet_hahn]: do you

 

3494

00:20:09,269 --> 00:20:09,530

[maggie]: a little

 

3495

00:20:09,396 --> 00:20:09,536

[juliet_hahn]: guys

 

3496

00:20:09,570 --> 00:20:09,630

[maggie]: bit

 

3497

00:20:09,616 --> 00:20:09,936

[juliet_hahn]: remember

 

3498

00:20:09,690 --> 00:20:10,051

[maggie]: how you

 

3499

00:20:09,997 --> 00:20:10,097

[juliet_hahn]: the

 

3500

00:20:10,091 --> 00:20:10,471

[maggie]: connected

 

3501

00:20:10,137 --> 00:20:10,698

[juliet_hahn]: first time that

 

3502

00:20:10,652 --> 00:20:10,732

[maggie]: do

 

3503

00:20:10,758 --> 00:20:10,898

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

3504

00:20:10,772 --> 00:20:11,453

[maggie]: you guys remember

 

3505

00:20:11,219 --> 00:20:11,419

[juliet_hahn]: you know

 

3506

00:20:11,533 --> 00:20:11,613

[maggie]: the

 

3507

00:20:11,539 --> 00:20:11,659

[juliet_hahn]: saw

 

3508

00:20:11,673 --> 00:20:11,833

[maggie]: first

 

3509

00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:11,880

[juliet_hahn]: ach

 

3510

00:20:11,894 --> 00:20:12,054

[maggie]: time

 

3511

00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:12,121

[juliet_hahn]: other

 

3512

00:20:12,094 --> 00:20:12,194

[maggie]: that

 

3513

00:20:12,222 --> 00:20:12,282

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

3514

00:20:12,274 --> 00:20:12,414

[maggie]: you

 

3515

00:20:12,322 --> 00:20:13,166

[juliet_hahn]: we're like wait

 

3516

00:20:12,995 --> 00:20:13,356

[maggie]: saw each

 

3517

00:20:13,327 --> 00:20:13,447

[juliet_hahn]: this

 

3518

00:20:13,416 --> 00:20:13,596

[maggie]: other

 

3519

00:20:13,508 --> 00:20:13,668

[juliet_hahn]: is a

 

3520

00:20:13,677 --> 00:20:13,757

[maggie]: and

 

3521

00:20:13,749 --> 00:20:13,889

[juliet_hahn]: good

 

3522

00:20:13,777 --> 00:20:13,957

[maggie]: we're

 

3523

00:20:13,950 --> 00:20:14,251

[juliet_hahn]: friend

 

3524

00:20:13,997 --> 00:20:14,197

[maggie]: like

 

3525

00:20:14,432 --> 00:20:14,532

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

3526

00:20:14,438 --> 00:20:14,638

[maggie]: wait

 

3527

00:20:14,572 --> 00:20:15,135

[juliet_hahn]: then kind of

 

3528

00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,005

[maggie]: friend i do i remember the first

time i met you do you remember that

 

3529

00:20:19,086 --> 00:20:24,535

[maggie]: in your dorm room abby was was

was in her do you know we were

 

3530

00:20:25,056 --> 00:20:26,758

[maggie]: i think i was talking to to

your

 

3531

00:20:27,090 --> 00:20:28,770

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3532

00:20:27,259 --> 00:20:27,800

[maggie]: sweet mate

 

3533

00:20:27,955 --> 00:20:28,542

[abbe_greenberg]: hm

 

3534

00:20:28,662 --> 00:20:29,243

[maggie]: and miriam

 

3535

00:20:29,060 --> 00:20:29,080

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

3536

00:20:29,503 --> 00:20:33,189

[maggie]: and then i met abby through that

but we lived in a very very close

 

3537

00:20:33,269 --> 00:20:37,236

[maggie]: storm where people really tended to know

each other

 

3538

00:20:37,050 --> 00:20:38,130

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3539

00:20:37,476 --> 00:20:40,854

[maggie]: and got to know each other we

ate dinner in a separate kind of

 

3540

00:20:41,192 --> 00:20:41,918

[abbe_greenberg]: we were a college

 

3541

00:20:41,759 --> 00:20:42,119

[maggie]: a separate

 

3542

00:20:41,958 --> 00:20:42,220

[abbe_greenberg]: house

 

3543

00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:42,580

[maggie]: dining hall

 

3544

00:20:42,603 --> 00:20:42,663

[abbe_greenberg]: we

 

3545

00:20:42,610 --> 00:20:42,670

[juliet_hahn]: ye

 

3546

00:20:42,744 --> 00:20:42,845

[abbe_greenberg]: had

 

3547

00:20:43,201 --> 00:20:46,567

[maggie]: you we were in a college living

learning community kind of so we all got

 

3548

00:20:46,667 --> 00:20:48,971

[maggie]: to a lot of people got to

know each other really well

 

3549

00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:48,992

[juliet_hahn]: ye

 

3550

00:20:49,532 --> 00:20:52,517

[maggie]: and so i knew abby sweet mate

but

 

3551

00:20:52,980 --> 00:20:53,936

[juliet_hahn]: ye

 

3552

00:20:53,138 --> 00:20:56,445

[maggie]: that's sort of how we first connected

and you know we

 

3553

00:20:57,382 --> 00:20:58,447

[abbe_greenberg]: you were and you were dating my

 

3554

00:20:58,479 --> 00:20:58,539

[maggie]: and

 

3555

00:20:58,527 --> 00:20:58,668

[abbe_greenberg]: good

 

3556

00:20:58,559 --> 00:20:58,780

[maggie]: you were

 

3557

00:20:58,728 --> 00:20:58,989

[abbe_greenberg]: friend

 

3558

00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,542

[maggie]: in my yeah while

 

3559

00:21:00,540 --> 00:21:00,861

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

3560

00:21:00,582 --> 00:21:01,243

[maggie]: i's trying to

 

3561

00:21:01,585 --> 00:21:01,968

[abbe_greenberg]: on the date

 

3562

00:21:02,185 --> 00:21:03,066

[maggie]: you sort of set it up

 

3563

00:21:02,977 --> 00:21:03,118

[abbe_greenberg]: yeh

 

3564

00:21:03,247 --> 00:21:03,427

[maggie]: yeah

 

3565

00:21:03,552 --> 00:21:03,853

[abbe_greenberg]: oh

 

3566

00:21:04,429 --> 00:21:04,729

[maggie]: yeah

 

3567

00:21:05,210 --> 00:21:06,813

[juliet_hahn]: i love that i love that it's

 

3568

00:21:06,833 --> 00:21:06,853

[maggie]: i

 

3569

00:21:06,853 --> 00:21:07,033

[juliet_hahn]: always

 

3570

00:21:06,953 --> 00:21:07,093

[maggie]: love

 

3571

00:21:07,053 --> 00:21:07,173

[juliet_hahn]: fun

 

3572

00:21:07,153 --> 00:21:07,313

[maggie]: that

 

3573

00:21:07,253 --> 00:21:07,434

[juliet_hahn]: to go

 

3574

00:21:07,454 --> 00:21:07,474

[maggie]: i

 

3575

00:21:07,534 --> 00:21:07,754

[juliet_hahn]: back

 

3576

00:21:07,554 --> 00:21:07,914

[maggie]: love that and

 

3577

00:21:07,834 --> 00:21:08,275

[juliet_hahn]: i think to

 

3578

00:21:08,235 --> 00:21:08,355

[maggie]: it's

 

3579

00:21:08,315 --> 00:21:08,375

[juliet_hahn]: go

 

3580

00:21:08,395 --> 00:21:08,555

[maggie]: always

 

3581

00:21:08,455 --> 00:21:08,616

[juliet_hahn]: back

 

3582

00:21:08,595 --> 00:21:08,696

[maggie]: fun

 

3583

00:21:08,696 --> 00:21:08,776

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

3584

00:21:08,776 --> 00:21:08,816

[maggie]: to

 

3585

00:21:08,856 --> 00:21:09,237

[juliet_hahn]: remember

 

3586

00:21:08,876 --> 00:21:09,357

[maggie]: go back i

 

3587

00:21:09,337 --> 00:21:09,517

[juliet_hahn]: these

 

3588

00:21:09,437 --> 00:21:10,058

[maggie]: think to go back

 

3589

00:21:09,958 --> 00:21:10,198

[juliet_hahn]: fun

 

3590

00:21:10,138 --> 00:21:10,659

[maggie]: and remember

 

3591

00:21:10,379 --> 00:21:11,100

[juliet_hahn]: and good times

 

3592

00:21:10,779 --> 00:21:11,620

[maggie]: these fun

 

3593

00:21:11,621 --> 00:21:11,741

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

3594

00:21:11,801 --> 00:21:12,502

[maggie]: and good times

 

3595

00:21:13,023 --> 00:21:13,103

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

3596

00:21:13,043 --> 00:21:13,163

[maggie]: so

 

3597

00:21:13,304 --> 00:21:14,425

[juliet_hahn]: abbie we didn't say what

 

3598

00:21:14,445 --> 00:21:14,525

[maggie]: and

 

3599

00:21:14,526 --> 00:21:14,686

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

3600

00:21:14,726 --> 00:21:15,407

[maggie]: abbie we didn't say

 

3601

00:21:15,407 --> 00:21:15,667

[juliet_hahn]: because i

 

3602

00:21:15,707 --> 00:21:15,827

[maggie]: what

 

3603

00:21:15,708 --> 00:21:15,848

[juliet_hahn]: know

 

3604

00:21:15,948 --> 00:21:16,088

[maggie]: you

 

3605

00:21:16,088 --> 00:21:16,409

[juliet_hahn]: maggie

 

3606

00:21:16,792 --> 00:21:17,236

[maggie]: because i know

 

3607

00:21:17,460 --> 00:21:17,621

[juliet_hahn]: your

 

3608

00:21:17,478 --> 00:21:17,781

[maggie]: maggie

 

3609

00:21:17,942 --> 00:21:18,964

[juliet_hahn]: major was philosophy

 

3610

00:21:18,929 --> 00:21:19,050

[maggie]: our

 

3611

00:21:19,165 --> 00:21:19,325

[juliet_hahn]: abby

 

3612

00:21:19,352 --> 00:21:19,633

[maggie]: major

 

3613

00:21:19,365 --> 00:21:19,786

[juliet_hahn]: what was your

 

3614

00:21:19,694 --> 00:21:20,378

[maggie]: was philosophy

 

3615

00:21:19,866 --> 00:21:20,167

[juliet_hahn]: major

 

3616

00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:21,565

[maggie]: abby what was your major

 

3617

00:21:21,482 --> 00:21:22,144

[abbe_greenberg]: communication

 

3618

00:21:22,299 --> 00:21:22,964

[maggie]: communication

 

3619

00:21:22,365 --> 00:21:23,510

[abbe_greenberg]: with a minor and psychology

 

3620

00:21:23,186 --> 00:21:23,649

[maggie]: with a minor

 

3621

00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:23,650

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

3622

00:21:23,710 --> 00:21:24,335

[maggie]: and psychology

 

3623

00:21:24,171 --> 00:21:24,972

[juliet_hahn]: i read that but then i

 

3624

00:21:24,969 --> 00:21:25,029

[maggie]: so

 

3625

00:21:25,012 --> 00:21:25,593

[juliet_hahn]: was like wait who

 

3626

00:21:25,550 --> 00:21:26,030

[maggie]: i read that

 

3627

00:21:25,934 --> 00:21:26,274

[juliet_hahn]: who

 

3628

00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:26,611

[maggie]: but then i was like

 

3629

00:21:26,515 --> 00:21:26,615

[juliet_hahn]: who

 

3630

00:21:26,631 --> 00:21:26,772

[maggie]: wait

 

3631

00:21:26,815 --> 00:21:26,975

[juliet_hahn]: was

 

3632

00:21:26,872 --> 00:21:27,072

[maggie]: who's

 

3633

00:21:27,035 --> 00:21:30,922

[juliet_hahn]: it now that yeah right which is

again that's

 

3634

00:21:30,979 --> 00:21:31,299

[maggie]: right which

 

3635

00:21:31,282 --> 00:21:31,343

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

3636

00:21:31,339 --> 00:21:31,399

[maggie]: is

 

3637

00:21:31,383 --> 00:21:32,164

[juliet_hahn]: know fascinating

 

3638

00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,301

[maggie]: again that's

 

3639

00:21:32,204 --> 00:21:32,905

[juliet_hahn]: to communications

 

3640

00:21:32,641 --> 00:21:33,523

[maggie]: you know fascinating

 

3641

00:21:32,985 --> 00:21:33,686

[juliet_hahn]: and psychology

 

3642

00:21:33,563 --> 00:21:34,204

[maggie]: the communication

 

3643

00:21:33,787 --> 00:21:34,388

[juliet_hahn]: you kind of were

 

3644

00:21:34,364 --> 00:21:34,424

[maggie]: and

 

3645

00:21:34,428 --> 00:21:34,548

[juliet_hahn]: like

 

3646

00:21:34,484 --> 00:21:35,065

[maggie]: psychology

 

3647

00:21:34,608 --> 00:21:35,129

[juliet_hahn]: i want to learn

 

3648

00:21:35,146 --> 00:21:35,246

[maggie]: you

 

3649

00:21:35,209 --> 00:21:35,349

[juliet_hahn]: more

 

3650

00:21:35,306 --> 00:21:35,727

[maggie]: kind of were

 

3651

00:21:35,690 --> 00:21:35,890

[juliet_hahn]: this

 

3652

00:21:35,787 --> 00:21:36,488

[maggie]: like i want to learn

 

3653

00:21:36,551 --> 00:21:36,671

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

3654

00:21:36,568 --> 00:21:37,229

[maggie]: more this

 

3655

00:21:37,152 --> 00:21:37,993

[juliet_hahn]: where did that take

 

3656

00:21:37,910 --> 00:21:38,030

[maggie]: and

 

3657

00:21:38,053 --> 00:21:38,474

[juliet_hahn]: you both

 

3658

00:21:38,531 --> 00:21:38,711

[maggie]: where

 

3659

00:21:38,694 --> 00:21:38,875

[juliet_hahn]: after

 

3660

00:21:38,771 --> 00:21:39,052

[maggie]: did that

 

3661

00:21:38,915 --> 00:21:39,616

[juliet_hahn]: you graduated

 

3662

00:21:39,132 --> 00:21:40,234

[maggie]: take you both after

 

3663

00:21:40,097 --> 00:21:40,357

[juliet_hahn]: where

 

3664

00:21:40,274 --> 00:21:40,975

[maggie]: you graduated

 

3665

00:21:40,597 --> 00:21:41,138

[juliet_hahn]: you know what

 

3666

00:21:41,456 --> 00:21:42,477

[maggie]: where you know what

 

3667

00:21:43,060 --> 00:21:44,211

[juliet_hahn]: field did you go into

 

3668

00:21:44,409 --> 00:21:45,538

[maggie]: field did you go into

 

3669

00:21:45,690 --> 00:21:46,873

[juliet_hahn]: if you can share that a little

bit

 

3670

00:21:47,019 --> 00:21:56,895

[maggie]: if you can share that i had

always gravitated toward working with people working enough

 

3671

00:21:56,712 --> 00:21:56,793

[juliet_hahn]: ah

 

3672

00:21:56,975 --> 00:21:57,716

[maggie]: for profits

 

3673

00:21:57,462 --> 00:21:57,668

[abbe_greenberg]: oh

 

3674

00:21:58,478 --> 00:22:01,964

[maggie]: you know was sort of like i

want to change the world you know type

 

3675

00:22:02,064 --> 00:22:04,608

[maggie]: of idealist but i also was

 

3676

00:22:04,590 --> 00:22:04,878

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3677

00:22:04,908 --> 00:22:09,837

[maggie]: was so interested in mental health because

um i think it was a big in

 

3678

00:22:09,997 --> 00:22:13,643

[maggie]: certain ways for the it was a

big conversation in my family

 

3679

00:22:14,550 --> 00:22:15,570

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3680

00:22:14,645 --> 00:22:17,730

[maggie]: in other ways it wasn't it was

kind of strange but because my mom was

 

3681

00:22:17,770 --> 00:22:18,151

[maggie]: a social

 

3682

00:22:18,150 --> 00:22:19,200

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3683

00:22:18,171 --> 00:22:21,376

[maggie]: worker being in therapy wasn't foreign to

me in any way

 

3684

00:22:22,705 --> 00:22:22,725

[abbe_greenberg]: a

 

3685

00:22:22,718 --> 00:22:23,079

[maggie]: and so

 

3686

00:22:24,603 --> 00:22:24,624

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

3687

00:22:24,762 --> 00:22:31,733

[maggie]: i worked in a number of different

not for profits sometimes during research and sometimes

 

3688

00:22:31,230 --> 00:22:32,370

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

3689

00:22:31,853 --> 00:22:37,142

[maggie]: working directly with with different people often

kids or teas

 

3690

00:22:37,650 --> 00:22:37,871

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

3691

00:22:37,683 --> 00:22:42,391

[maggie]: or sometimes elderly so i worked with

a lot of different different types of people

 

3692

00:22:42,471 --> 00:22:42,752

[maggie]: but then

 

3693

00:22:42,660 --> 00:22:43,860

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3694

00:22:43,052 --> 00:22:47,480

[maggie]: i went to social work school um

and that it's just

 

3695

00:22:47,469 --> 00:22:47,490

[juliet_hahn]: m

 

3696

00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,722

[maggie]: that sort of fit in all

 

3697

00:22:48,722 --> 00:22:48,864

[juliet_hahn]: yes

 

3698

00:22:48,802 --> 00:22:51,708

[maggie]: my interests together and i ended up

being

 

3699

00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:51,930

[juliet_hahn]: m

 

3700

00:22:52,309 --> 00:22:54,614

[maggie]: a high school counsellor in a new

york city high school

 

3701

00:22:54,690 --> 00:22:55,098

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3702

00:22:54,895 --> 00:22:55,756

[maggie]: for a lot of years

 

3703

00:22:55,910 --> 00:22:57,232

[juliet_hahn]: interesting yeah i love i

 

3704

00:22:57,269 --> 00:22:57,711

[maggie]: interesting

 

3705

00:22:57,292 --> 00:22:58,134

[juliet_hahn]: love where things

 

3706

00:22:58,193 --> 00:22:58,213

[maggie]: i

 

3707

00:22:58,214 --> 00:22:58,354

[juliet_hahn]: take

 

3708

00:22:58,293 --> 00:22:58,413

[maggie]: love

 

3709

00:22:58,394 --> 00:22:58,575

[juliet_hahn]: you and

 

3710

00:22:58,534 --> 00:22:58,554

[maggie]: i

 

3711

00:22:58,595 --> 00:22:58,715

[juliet_hahn]: then

 

3712

00:22:58,634 --> 00:22:59,217

[maggie]: love where

 

3713

00:22:58,815 --> 00:22:59,376

[juliet_hahn]: abby where did

 

3714

00:22:59,277 --> 00:22:59,478

[maggie]: things

 

3715

00:22:59,456 --> 00:22:59,556

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

3716

00:22:59,538 --> 00:22:59,799

[maggie]: take you

 

3717

00:22:59,757 --> 00:22:59,877

[juliet_hahn]: end

 

3718

00:22:59,839 --> 00:23:00,020

[maggie]: and then

 

3719

00:23:00,037 --> 00:23:00,117

[juliet_hahn]: up

 

3720

00:23:00,140 --> 00:23:01,445

[maggie]: abby where did you end up

 

3721

00:23:02,222 --> 00:23:03,384

[abbe_greenberg]: i've always been fascinated

 

3722

00:23:02,929 --> 00:23:03,450

[maggie]: i've always

 

3723

00:23:03,424 --> 00:23:03,524

[abbe_greenberg]: with

 

3724

00:23:03,470 --> 00:23:03,610

[maggie]: been

 

3725

00:23:03,564 --> 00:23:03,645

[abbe_greenberg]: how

 

3726

00:23:03,650 --> 00:23:04,111

[maggie]: fascinated

 

3727

00:23:03,745 --> 00:23:04,246

[abbe_greenberg]: talk works

 

3728

00:23:04,151 --> 00:23:04,933

[maggie]: with how talk works

 

3729

00:23:05,107 --> 00:23:05,448

[abbe_greenberg]: i find

 

3730

00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:05,683

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3731

00:23:05,568 --> 00:23:06,029

[abbe_greenberg]: language

 

3732

00:23:05,834 --> 00:23:06,155

[maggie]: i find

 

3733

00:23:06,089 --> 00:23:06,810

[abbe_greenberg]: and communication

 

3734

00:23:06,295 --> 00:23:07,517

[maggie]: language and communication

 

3735

00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:07,651

[abbe_greenberg]: fascinating

 

3736

00:23:07,837 --> 00:23:08,358

[maggie]: fascinating

 

3737

00:23:08,493 --> 00:23:09,354

[abbe_greenberg]: law in my family

 

3738

00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:09,400

[maggie]: law

 

3739

00:23:09,394 --> 00:23:09,474

[abbe_greenberg]: is

 

3740

00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:09,560

[maggie]: in

 

3741

00:23:09,534 --> 00:23:09,715

[abbe_greenberg]: that

 

3742

00:23:09,620 --> 00:23:10,081

[maggie]: my family

 

3743

00:23:09,975 --> 00:23:10,416

[abbe_greenberg]: i started

 

3744

00:23:10,261 --> 00:23:10,442

[maggie]: that

 

3745

00:23:10,496 --> 00:23:10,817

[abbe_greenberg]: talking

 

3746

00:23:10,637 --> 00:23:10,657

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

3747

00:23:10,702 --> 00:23:11,143

[maggie]: i started

 

3748

00:23:10,857 --> 00:23:11,518

[abbe_greenberg]: in full sentences

 

3749

00:23:11,223 --> 00:23:11,624

[maggie]: talking in

 

3750

00:23:11,598 --> 00:23:11,658

[abbe_greenberg]: at

 

3751

00:23:11,684 --> 00:23:11,844

[maggie]: full

 

3752

00:23:11,702 --> 00:23:11,944

[juliet_hahn]: months

 

3753

00:23:11,718 --> 00:23:11,918

[abbe_greenberg]: nine

 

3754

00:23:11,884 --> 00:23:12,245

[maggie]: sentences

 

3755

00:23:11,958 --> 00:23:12,319

[abbe_greenberg]: months old

 

3756

00:23:12,325 --> 00:23:12,365

[maggie]: at

 

3757

00:23:12,379 --> 00:23:12,439

[abbe_greenberg]: and

 

3758

00:23:12,445 --> 00:23:12,625

[maggie]: nine

 

3759

00:23:12,499 --> 00:23:12,980

[abbe_greenberg]: i haven't

 

3760

00:23:12,685 --> 00:23:12,866

[maggie]: months

 

3761

00:23:13,020 --> 00:23:13,301

[abbe_greenberg]: stopped

 

3762

00:23:13,046 --> 00:23:13,547

[maggie]: when i had

 

3763

00:23:13,401 --> 00:23:13,721

[abbe_greenberg]: since

 

3764

00:23:13,787 --> 00:23:13,887

[maggie]: to

 

3765

00:23:14,543 --> 00:23:14,623

[abbe_greenberg]: and

 

3766

00:23:14,610 --> 00:23:15,113

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3767

00:23:14,643 --> 00:23:15,284

[abbe_greenberg]: there is some truth

 

3768

00:23:15,250 --> 00:23:15,330

[maggie]: and

 

3769

00:23:15,344 --> 00:23:15,404

[abbe_greenberg]: to

 

3770

00:23:15,370 --> 00:23:15,510

[maggie]: there

 

3771

00:23:15,444 --> 00:23:15,544

[abbe_greenberg]: that

 

3772

00:23:15,550 --> 00:23:15,610

[maggie]: is

 

3773

00:23:15,605 --> 00:23:15,625

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

3774

00:23:15,670 --> 00:23:15,791

[maggie]: some

 

3775

00:23:15,685 --> 00:23:15,865

[abbe_greenberg]: think

 

3776

00:23:15,831 --> 00:23:16,011

[maggie]: truth

 

3777

00:23:16,045 --> 00:23:16,266

[abbe_greenberg]: although

 

3778

00:23:16,051 --> 00:23:16,271

[maggie]: to that

 

3779

00:23:16,286 --> 00:23:16,446

[abbe_greenberg]: maybe

 

3780

00:23:16,312 --> 00:23:16,552

[maggie]: i think

 

3781

00:23:16,506 --> 00:23:17,047

[abbe_greenberg]: not the nine month

 

3782

00:23:17,013 --> 00:23:17,153

[maggie]: maybe

 

3783

00:23:17,107 --> 00:23:17,207

[abbe_greenberg]: old

 

3784

00:23:17,233 --> 00:23:17,313

[maggie]: not

 

3785

00:23:17,247 --> 00:23:17,428

[abbe_greenberg]: part

 

3786

00:23:17,353 --> 00:23:17,714

[maggie]: the nine

 

3787

00:23:17,989 --> 00:23:19,611

[abbe_greenberg]: um i've always

 

3788

00:23:19,717 --> 00:23:19,737

[maggie]: i

 

3789

00:23:19,731 --> 00:23:19,972

[abbe_greenberg]: i mean i

 

3790

00:23:20,018 --> 00:23:20,298

[maggie]: always

 

3791

00:23:20,032 --> 00:23:20,272

[abbe_greenberg]: majored

 

3792

00:23:20,304 --> 00:23:20,325

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

3793

00:23:20,312 --> 00:23:20,953

[abbe_greenberg]: in communication

 

3794

00:23:20,519 --> 00:23:21,059

[maggie]: mean a major in

 

3795

00:23:21,054 --> 00:23:21,094

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

3796

00:23:21,099 --> 00:23:21,620

[maggie]: communication

 

3797

00:23:21,254 --> 00:23:21,895

[abbe_greenberg]: threw myself into

 

3798

00:23:21,781 --> 00:23:21,801

[maggie]: i

 

3799

00:23:21,935 --> 00:23:22,416

[abbe_greenberg]: communication

 

3800

00:23:21,981 --> 00:23:22,422

[maggie]: threw myself

 

3801

00:23:22,496 --> 00:23:22,837

[abbe_greenberg]: research

 

3802

00:23:22,542 --> 00:23:23,123

[maggie]: to communication

 

3803

00:23:22,897 --> 00:23:23,237

[abbe_greenberg]: i became

 

3804

00:23:23,203 --> 00:23:23,564

[maggie]: research

 

3805

00:23:23,277 --> 00:23:23,698

[abbe_greenberg]: a professor

 

3806

00:23:23,624 --> 00:23:23,944

[maggie]: and became

 

3807

00:23:23,738 --> 00:23:24,439

[abbe_greenberg]: of communication

 

3808

00:23:24,004 --> 00:23:24,405

[maggie]: a professor

 

3809

00:23:24,270 --> 00:23:25,320

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3810

00:23:24,445 --> 00:23:25,166

[maggie]: of communication

 

3811

00:23:24,740 --> 00:23:25,481

[abbe_greenberg]: but i was

 

3812

00:23:25,447 --> 00:23:25,547

[maggie]: but

 

3813

00:23:25,561 --> 00:23:25,741

[abbe_greenberg]: not

 

3814

00:23:25,647 --> 00:23:25,667

[maggie]: i

 

3815

00:23:25,882 --> 00:23:26,223

[abbe_greenberg]: interested

 

3816

00:23:26,088 --> 00:23:26,448

[maggie]: was not

 

3817

00:23:26,283 --> 00:23:26,905

[abbe_greenberg]: in the media

 

3818

00:23:26,589 --> 00:23:27,050

[maggie]: interested in

 

3819

00:23:27,066 --> 00:23:27,166

[abbe_greenberg]: end

 

3820

00:23:27,090 --> 00:23:27,171

[maggie]: the

 

3821

00:23:27,226 --> 00:23:27,287

[abbe_greenberg]: of

 

3822

00:23:27,251 --> 00:23:27,612

[maggie]: media

 

3823

00:23:27,387 --> 00:23:28,250

[abbe_greenberg]: it and the journalism

 

3824

00:23:27,953 --> 00:23:28,014

[maggie]: of

 

3825

00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:29,010

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

3826

00:23:28,114 --> 00:23:28,375

[maggie]: it and

 

3827

00:23:28,330 --> 00:23:28,390

[abbe_greenberg]: end

 

3828

00:23:28,395 --> 00:23:28,475

[maggie]: the

 

3829

00:23:28,430 --> 00:23:28,571

[abbe_greenberg]: of it

 

3830

00:23:28,535 --> 00:23:28,957

[maggie]: journalism

 

3831

00:23:28,671 --> 00:23:29,213

[abbe_greenberg]: i really was

 

3832

00:23:29,218 --> 00:23:29,298

[maggie]: that

 

3833

00:23:29,273 --> 00:23:29,574

[abbe_greenberg]: focused

 

3834

00:23:29,378 --> 00:23:29,800

[maggie]: i really

 

3835

00:23:29,635 --> 00:23:29,996

[abbe_greenberg]: on inter

 

3836

00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:30,301

[maggie]: was focused

 

3837

00:23:30,036 --> 00:23:30,397

[abbe_greenberg]: personal

 

3838

00:23:30,362 --> 00:23:30,402

[maggie]: on

 

3839

00:23:30,437 --> 00:23:31,039

[abbe_greenberg]: communication

 

3840

00:23:30,502 --> 00:23:31,767

[maggie]: in personal communication

 

3841

00:23:31,530 --> 00:23:31,813

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

3842

00:23:31,862 --> 00:23:32,843

[abbe_greenberg]: conflict management

 

3843

00:23:32,579 --> 00:23:33,019

[maggie]: conflict

 

3844

00:23:32,984 --> 00:23:33,144

[abbe_greenberg]: how

 

3845

00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:33,580

[maggie]: management

 

3846

00:23:33,224 --> 00:23:33,765

[abbe_greenberg]: we use our

 

3847

00:23:33,721 --> 00:23:33,841

[maggie]: how

 

3848

00:23:33,845 --> 00:23:34,486

[abbe_greenberg]: language

 

3849

00:23:33,961 --> 00:23:35,163

[maggie]: we use our language

 

3850

00:23:35,428 --> 00:23:36,049

[abbe_greenberg]: to manage

 

3851

00:23:36,069 --> 00:23:36,090

[juliet_hahn]: m

 

3852

00:23:36,145 --> 00:23:36,766

[maggie]: to manage

 

3853

00:23:36,389 --> 00:23:37,451

[abbe_greenberg]: difficult situations

 

3854

00:23:37,106 --> 00:23:38,168

[maggie]: difficult situations

 

3855

00:23:37,611 --> 00:23:38,152

[abbe_greenberg]: and so

 

3856

00:23:38,328 --> 00:23:38,869

[maggie]: and so

 

3857

00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:38,900

[juliet_hahn]: m

 

3858

00:23:38,913 --> 00:23:39,454

[abbe_greenberg]: it was really

 

3859

00:23:39,630 --> 00:23:40,171

[maggie]: it was really

 

3860

00:23:39,995 --> 00:23:40,776

[abbe_greenberg]: a personal thing for

 

3861

00:23:40,712 --> 00:23:41,173

[maggie]: a personal

 

3862

00:23:40,817 --> 00:23:41,217

[abbe_greenberg]: me because

 

3863

00:23:41,213 --> 00:23:41,473

[maggie]: thing for

 

3864

00:23:41,398 --> 00:23:41,438

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

3865

00:23:41,514 --> 00:23:41,594

[maggie]: me

 

3866

00:23:41,518 --> 00:23:41,638

[abbe_greenberg]: was

 

3867

00:23:41,674 --> 00:23:41,934

[maggie]: because

 

3868

00:23:41,718 --> 00:23:42,299

[abbe_greenberg]: trying to figure

 

3869

00:23:42,115 --> 00:23:42,355

[maggie]: i was

 

3870

00:23:42,330 --> 00:23:42,531

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

3871

00:23:42,419 --> 00:23:42,559

[abbe_greenberg]: out

 

3872

00:23:42,435 --> 00:23:43,016

[maggie]: trying to figure

 

3873

00:23:42,980 --> 00:23:43,160

[abbe_greenberg]: in my

 

3874

00:23:43,136 --> 00:23:43,256

[maggie]: out

 

3875

00:23:43,261 --> 00:23:43,741

[abbe_greenberg]: own way how

 

3876

00:23:43,697 --> 00:23:43,877

[maggie]: in my

 

3877

00:23:43,842 --> 00:23:44,085

[abbe_greenberg]: i could

 

3878

00:23:43,978 --> 00:23:44,258

[maggie]: own way

 

3879

00:23:44,166 --> 00:23:44,914

[abbe_greenberg]: navigate

 

3880

00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:45,580

[maggie]: i could navigate

 

3881

00:23:45,652 --> 00:23:46,313

[abbe_greenberg]: my anxiety

 

3882

00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:46,620

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3883

00:23:46,362 --> 00:23:47,023

[maggie]: my anxiety

 

3884

00:23:46,673 --> 00:23:47,715

[abbe_greenberg]: my mental health issues

 

3885

00:23:47,423 --> 00:23:47,984

[maggie]: my mental health

 

3886

00:23:47,915 --> 00:23:48,136

[abbe_greenberg]: using

 

3887

00:23:48,044 --> 00:23:48,445

[maggie]: issues

 

3888

00:23:48,196 --> 00:23:48,596

[abbe_greenberg]: language

 

3889

00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,140

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3890

00:23:48,645 --> 00:23:48,866

[maggie]: using

 

3891

00:23:48,657 --> 00:23:48,977

[abbe_greenberg]: because that

 

3892

00:23:48,926 --> 00:23:49,287

[maggie]: language

 

3893

00:23:49,017 --> 00:23:49,458

[abbe_greenberg]: was what came

 

3894

00:23:49,367 --> 00:23:49,567

[maggie]: because

 

3895

00:23:49,538 --> 00:23:49,919

[abbe_greenberg]: easiest

 

3896

00:23:49,587 --> 00:23:49,948

[maggie]: that was what

 

3897

00:23:49,999 --> 00:23:50,079

[abbe_greenberg]: to

 

3898

00:23:50,028 --> 00:23:50,188

[maggie]: came

 

3899

00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:50,219

[abbe_greenberg]: me

 

3900

00:23:50,268 --> 00:23:50,629

[maggie]: easiest

 

3901

00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:50,780

[abbe_greenberg]: and that was what

 

3902

00:23:50,709 --> 00:23:50,789

[maggie]: to

 

3903

00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:50,860

[abbe_greenberg]: i

 

3904

00:23:50,849 --> 00:23:50,929

[maggie]: me

 

3905

00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:51,301

[abbe_greenberg]: enjoyed

 

3906

00:23:51,009 --> 00:23:51,350

[maggie]: and that was

 

3907

00:23:51,341 --> 00:23:51,421

[abbe_greenberg]: the

 

3908

00:23:51,390 --> 00:23:51,510

[maggie]: what

 

3909

00:23:51,461 --> 00:23:51,662

[abbe_greenberg]: most

 

3910

00:23:51,550 --> 00:23:52,011

[maggie]: i enjoyed

 

3911

00:23:51,742 --> 00:23:52,403

[abbe_greenberg]: so i

 

3912

00:23:52,472 --> 00:23:52,572

[maggie]: so

 

3913

00:23:52,483 --> 00:23:53,224

[abbe_greenberg]: really threw myself

 

3914

00:23:53,113 --> 00:23:53,413

[maggie]: i really

 

3915

00:23:53,304 --> 00:23:53,505

[abbe_greenberg]: into

 

3916

00:23:53,453 --> 00:23:53,594

[maggie]: threw

 

3917

00:23:53,565 --> 00:23:53,665

[abbe_greenberg]: the

 

3918

00:23:53,654 --> 00:23:53,954

[maggie]: myself

 

3919

00:23:53,745 --> 00:23:54,226

[abbe_greenberg]: inter personal

 

3920

00:23:54,034 --> 00:23:54,195

[maggie]: into

 

3921

00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:54,807

[abbe_greenberg]: communication

 

3922

00:23:54,275 --> 00:23:54,936

[maggie]: the personal

 

3923

00:23:54,813 --> 00:23:54,974

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

3924

00:23:54,887 --> 00:23:55,127

[abbe_greenberg]: world

 

3925

00:23:54,996 --> 00:23:55,517

[maggie]: communication

 

3926

00:23:55,488 --> 00:23:55,568

[abbe_greenberg]: and

 

3927

00:23:55,597 --> 00:23:55,817

[maggie]: world

 

3928

00:23:55,648 --> 00:23:56,590

[abbe_greenberg]: ended up being a professor

 

3929

00:23:56,238 --> 00:23:56,839

[maggie]: and being

 

3930

00:23:56,670 --> 00:23:57,051

[abbe_greenberg]: for twenty

 

3931

00:23:56,859 --> 00:23:57,300

[maggie]: a professor

 

3932

00:23:57,111 --> 00:23:57,351

[abbe_greenberg]: something

 

3933

00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:57,440

[maggie]: for

 

3934

00:23:57,391 --> 00:23:57,531

[abbe_greenberg]: years

 

3935

00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:57,741

[maggie]: twenty

 

3936

00:23:57,692 --> 00:23:57,753

[abbe_greenberg]: we

 

3937

00:23:57,801 --> 00:23:58,041

[maggie]: something

 

3938

00:23:57,834 --> 00:23:58,076

[abbe_greenberg]: loved

 

3939

00:23:58,081 --> 00:23:58,261

[maggie]: years

 

3940

00:23:58,136 --> 00:23:58,197

[abbe_greenberg]: it

 

3941

00:23:58,300 --> 00:23:58,881

[juliet_hahn]: right and

 

3942

00:23:58,834 --> 00:23:59,040

[abbe_greenberg]: great

 

3943

00:23:59,041 --> 00:23:59,602

[juliet_hahn]: you know what

 

3944

00:23:59,604 --> 00:23:59,804

[maggie]: right

 

3945

00:23:59,642 --> 00:24:00,183

[juliet_hahn]: i love so much

 

3946

00:24:00,205 --> 00:24:00,285

[maggie]: and

 

3947

00:24:00,243 --> 00:24:00,263

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

3948

00:24:00,465 --> 00:24:00,645

[maggie]: you know

 

3949

00:24:00,584 --> 00:24:00,984

[juliet_hahn]: actually was

 

3950

00:24:00,886 --> 00:24:01,006

[maggie]: what

 

3951

00:24:01,024 --> 00:24:01,145

[juliet_hahn]: just

 

3952

00:24:01,046 --> 00:24:01,266

[maggie]: i love

 

3953

00:24:01,225 --> 00:24:01,265

[juliet_hahn]: at

 

3954

00:24:01,327 --> 00:24:01,407

[maggie]: so

 

3955

00:24:01,345 --> 00:24:01,385

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

3956

00:24:01,447 --> 00:24:01,567

[maggie]: much

 

3957

00:24:01,605 --> 00:24:03,488

[juliet_hahn]: podmpodcast

 

3958

00:24:01,627 --> 00:24:04,852

[maggie]: i actually wish was at a podpodcast

 

3959

00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:04,630

[juliet_hahn]: convention and my

 

3960

00:24:05,013 --> 00:24:05,494

[maggie]: convention

 

3961

00:24:05,372 --> 00:24:05,712

[juliet_hahn]: topic

 

3962

00:24:05,654 --> 00:24:05,974

[maggie]: and my

 

3963

00:24:05,832 --> 00:24:06,754

[juliet_hahn]: was the

 

3964

00:24:06,716 --> 00:24:07,036

[maggie]: topic

 

3965

00:24:06,914 --> 00:24:07,134

[juliet_hahn]: you know

 

3966

00:24:07,176 --> 00:24:07,437

[maggie]: was

 

3967

00:24:07,235 --> 00:24:07,335

[juliet_hahn]: the

 

3968

00:24:07,958 --> 00:24:08,058

[maggie]: the

 

3969

00:24:08,116 --> 00:24:08,296

[juliet_hahn]: about

 

3970

00:24:08,218 --> 00:24:08,438

[maggie]: you know

 

3971

00:24:08,377 --> 00:24:08,637

[juliet_hahn]: story

 

3972

00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:08,699

[maggie]: that

 

3973

00:24:08,697 --> 00:24:09,959

[juliet_hahn]: telling and podcastingan

 

3974

00:24:09,420 --> 00:24:10,382

[maggie]: about storytelling and

 

3975

00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:10,520

[juliet_hahn]: when

 

3976

00:24:10,442 --> 00:24:11,083

[maggie]: podcasting

 

3977

00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,502

[juliet_hahn]: when i started

 

3978

00:24:11,203 --> 00:24:11,804

[maggie]: and when

 

3979

00:24:12,003 --> 00:24:12,103

[juliet_hahn]: the

 

3980

00:24:12,044 --> 00:24:12,145

[maggie]: when

 

3981

00:24:12,203 --> 00:24:12,564

[juliet_hahn]: speech

 

3982

00:24:12,265 --> 00:24:12,806

[maggie]: i started

 

3983

00:24:12,724 --> 00:24:13,084

[juliet_hahn]: the talk

 

3984

00:24:13,086 --> 00:24:13,908

[maggie]: at the page

 

3985

00:24:13,665 --> 00:24:13,705

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

3986

00:24:14,028 --> 00:24:14,408

[maggie]: the talk

 

3987

00:24:14,447 --> 00:24:14,927

[juliet_hahn]: opened up with

 

3988

00:24:14,989 --> 00:24:15,009

[maggie]: i

 

3989

00:24:15,008 --> 00:24:16,150

[juliet_hahn]: a story and it was a story

 

3990

00:24:15,851 --> 00:24:16,312

[maggie]: opened up with

 

3991

00:24:16,290 --> 00:24:16,490

[juliet_hahn]: about

 

3992

00:24:16,372 --> 00:24:16,692

[maggie]: a story

 

3993

00:24:16,590 --> 00:24:16,791

[juliet_hahn]: third

 

3994

00:24:16,792 --> 00:24:16,872

[maggie]: and

 

3995

00:24:16,891 --> 00:24:17,211

[juliet_hahn]: grade

 

3996

00:24:16,913 --> 00:24:17,494

[maggie]: it was a story

 

3997

00:24:17,512 --> 00:24:17,632

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

3998

00:24:17,634 --> 00:24:17,854

[maggie]: about

 

3999

00:24:17,892 --> 00:24:17,953

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

4000

00:24:17,934 --> 00:24:18,155

[maggie]: third

 

4001

00:24:18,013 --> 00:24:18,153

[juliet_hahn]: know

 

4002

00:24:18,235 --> 00:24:18,535

[maggie]: grade

 

4003

00:24:18,433 --> 00:24:18,794

[juliet_hahn]: how i was

 

4004

00:24:18,836 --> 00:24:19,437

[maggie]: and you know

 

4005

00:24:19,375 --> 00:24:19,916

[juliet_hahn]: went to special

 

4006

00:24:19,757 --> 00:24:19,978

[maggie]: how i

 

4007

00:24:19,976 --> 00:24:20,236

[juliet_hahn]: reading

 

4008

00:24:20,038 --> 00:24:20,118

[maggie]: was

 

4009

00:24:20,677 --> 00:24:20,797

[juliet_hahn]: but

 

4010

00:24:20,739 --> 00:24:20,939

[maggie]: went to

 

4011

00:24:20,917 --> 00:24:21,058

[juliet_hahn]: from

 

4012

00:24:20,979 --> 00:24:21,259

[maggie]: special

 

4013

00:24:21,138 --> 00:24:21,338

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

4014

00:24:21,299 --> 00:24:21,580

[maggie]: reading

 

4015

00:24:21,438 --> 00:24:21,939

[juliet_hahn]: day on

 

4016

00:24:22,001 --> 00:24:22,121

[maggie]: but

 

4017

00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:22,781

[juliet_hahn]: remember

 

4018

00:24:22,241 --> 00:24:23,263

[maggie]: from that day on

 

4019

00:24:23,402 --> 00:24:23,502

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

4020

00:24:23,403 --> 00:24:23,423

[maggie]: i

 

4021

00:24:23,522 --> 00:24:23,622

[juliet_hahn]: when

 

4022

00:24:23,543 --> 00:24:24,104

[maggie]: remember

 

4023

00:24:23,682 --> 00:24:24,804

[juliet_hahn]: i spoke to my teachers

 

4024

00:24:24,725 --> 00:24:24,986

[maggie]: that when

 

4025

00:24:25,024 --> 00:24:25,165

[juliet_hahn]: when

 

4026

00:24:25,026 --> 00:24:25,366

[maggie]: i spoke

 

4027

00:24:25,205 --> 00:24:25,525

[juliet_hahn]: i spoke

 

4028

00:24:25,446 --> 00:24:25,627

[maggie]: to my

 

4029

00:24:25,605 --> 00:24:26,086

[juliet_hahn]: to adults

 

4030

00:24:25,747 --> 00:24:26,548

[maggie]: teachers when i

 

4031

00:24:26,547 --> 00:24:26,667

[juliet_hahn]: they

 

4032

00:24:26,648 --> 00:24:26,869

[maggie]: spoke

 

4033

00:24:26,727 --> 00:24:27,068

[juliet_hahn]: listened

 

4034

00:24:26,929 --> 00:24:27,410

[maggie]: to adults

 

4035

00:24:27,308 --> 00:24:27,909

[juliet_hahn]: to me and

 

4036

00:24:27,870 --> 00:24:27,991

[maggie]: they

 

4037

00:24:27,929 --> 00:24:28,049

[juliet_hahn]: they

 

4038

00:24:28,051 --> 00:24:28,391

[maggie]: listened

 

4039

00:24:28,089 --> 00:24:28,550

[juliet_hahn]: would stop

 

4040

00:24:28,632 --> 00:24:28,712

[maggie]: to

 

4041

00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:28,791

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

4042

00:24:28,772 --> 00:24:28,852

[maggie]: me

 

4043

00:24:28,811 --> 00:24:29,191

[juliet_hahn]: they would ask

 

4044

00:24:29,133 --> 00:24:29,353

[maggie]: and they

 

4045

00:24:29,271 --> 00:24:29,792

[juliet_hahn]: me questions

 

4046

00:24:29,413 --> 00:24:29,874

[maggie]: would stop

 

4047

00:24:29,872 --> 00:24:30,073

[juliet_hahn]: but then

 

4048

00:24:30,034 --> 00:24:30,114

[maggie]: and

 

4049

00:24:30,113 --> 00:24:30,213

[juliet_hahn]: when

 

4050

00:24:30,134 --> 00:24:30,355

[maggie]: they would

 

4051

00:24:30,253 --> 00:24:30,413

[juliet_hahn]: i had

 

4052

00:24:30,415 --> 00:24:30,495

[maggie]: ask

 

4053

00:24:30,453 --> 00:24:30,654

[juliet_hahn]: to do

 

4054

00:24:30,595 --> 00:24:31,136

[maggie]: me questions

 

4055

00:24:30,774 --> 00:24:31,235

[juliet_hahn]: work when

 

4056

00:24:31,196 --> 00:24:31,276

[maggie]: but

 

4057

00:24:31,295 --> 00:24:31,335

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

4058

00:24:31,316 --> 00:24:31,416

[maggie]: then

 

4059

00:24:31,375 --> 00:24:31,475

[juliet_hahn]: had

 

4060

00:24:31,456 --> 00:24:31,537

[maggie]: when

 

4061

00:24:31,515 --> 00:24:31,575

[juliet_hahn]: to

 

4062

00:24:31,577 --> 00:24:31,597

[maggie]: i

 

4063

00:24:31,635 --> 00:24:31,856

[juliet_hahn]: write

 

4064

00:24:31,657 --> 00:24:32,338

[maggie]: had to do work

 

4065

00:24:32,316 --> 00:24:32,477

[juliet_hahn]: to do

 

4066

00:24:32,458 --> 00:24:32,558

[maggie]: when

 

4067

00:24:32,537 --> 00:24:32,577

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

4068

00:24:32,618 --> 00:24:32,638

[maggie]: i

 

4069

00:24:32,637 --> 00:24:32,897

[juliet_hahn]: test

 

4070

00:24:32,959 --> 00:24:33,139

[maggie]: right

 

4071

00:24:32,998 --> 00:24:33,699

[juliet_hahn]: i was told i wasn't

 

4072

00:24:33,620 --> 00:24:33,780

[maggie]: to do

 

4073

00:24:33,739 --> 00:24:34,019

[juliet_hahn]: trying

 

4074

00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,221

[maggie]: a test

 

4075

00:24:34,260 --> 00:24:34,500

[juliet_hahn]: enough

 

4076

00:24:34,301 --> 00:24:34,982

[maggie]: i was told i wasn't

 

4077

00:24:34,901 --> 00:24:35,221

[juliet_hahn]: and that

 

4078

00:24:35,123 --> 00:24:35,403

[maggie]: trying

 

4079

00:24:35,342 --> 00:24:35,382

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

4080

00:24:35,463 --> 00:24:35,623

[maggie]: hard

 

4081

00:24:35,482 --> 00:24:35,802

[juliet_hahn]: wasn't

 

4082

00:24:35,683 --> 00:24:35,904

[maggie]: enough

 

4083

00:24:35,902 --> 00:24:36,363

[juliet_hahn]: focused

 

4084

00:24:36,284 --> 00:24:36,585

[maggie]: and that

 

4085

00:24:36,443 --> 00:24:36,924

[juliet_hahn]: and i needed

 

4086

00:24:36,705 --> 00:24:37,146

[maggie]: i wasn't

 

4087

00:24:36,984 --> 00:24:37,265

[juliet_hahn]: to work

 

4088

00:24:37,266 --> 00:24:37,707

[maggie]: focused

 

4089

00:24:37,325 --> 00:24:37,746

[juliet_hahn]: harder and

 

4090

00:24:37,787 --> 00:24:37,867

[maggie]: and

 

4091

00:24:37,906 --> 00:24:37,966

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

4092

00:24:37,927 --> 00:24:37,947

[maggie]: i

 

4093

00:24:38,006 --> 00:24:38,146

[juliet_hahn]: know

 

4094

00:24:38,027 --> 00:24:38,608

[maggie]: needed to work

 

4095

00:24:38,487 --> 00:24:38,727

[juliet_hahn]: i didn't

 

4096

00:24:38,668 --> 00:24:38,969

[maggie]: harder

 

4097

00:24:38,787 --> 00:24:38,948

[juliet_hahn]: give

 

4098

00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:39,309

[maggie]: and you

 

4099

00:24:39,348 --> 00:24:39,428

[juliet_hahn]: the

 

4100

00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:39,470

[maggie]: know

 

4101

00:24:39,468 --> 00:24:39,929

[juliet_hahn]: assignment

 

4102

00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:40,071

[maggie]: i didn't

 

4103

00:24:39,989 --> 00:24:40,109

[juliet_hahn]: what

 

4104

00:24:40,131 --> 00:24:40,291

[maggie]: give

 

4105

00:24:40,210 --> 00:24:40,710

[juliet_hahn]: i do when

 

4106

00:24:40,712 --> 00:24:40,792

[maggie]: the

 

4107

00:24:40,751 --> 00:24:40,851

[juliet_hahn]: i'm

 

4108

00:24:40,832 --> 00:24:41,293

[maggie]: assignment

 

4109

00:24:40,911 --> 00:24:41,352

[juliet_hahn]: in class

 

4110

00:24:41,353 --> 00:24:41,573

[maggie]: what i

 

4111

00:24:41,712 --> 00:24:41,832

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

4112

00:24:41,713 --> 00:24:42,314

[maggie]: do when i'm in

 

4113

00:24:42,293 --> 00:24:42,473

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

4114

00:24:42,375 --> 00:24:42,695

[maggie]: class

 

4115

00:24:42,554 --> 00:24:42,974

[juliet_hahn]: was where

 

4116

00:24:43,056 --> 00:24:43,196

[maggie]: and

 

4117

00:24:43,435 --> 00:24:43,575

[juliet_hahn]: my

 

4118

00:24:43,637 --> 00:24:43,817

[maggie]: that

 

4119

00:24:43,695 --> 00:24:43,976

[juliet_hahn]: story

 

4120

00:24:43,877 --> 00:24:43,997

[maggie]: was

 

4121

00:24:44,036 --> 00:24:44,296

[juliet_hahn]: telling

 

4122

00:24:44,097 --> 00:24:44,318

[maggie]: where

 

4123

00:24:44,397 --> 00:24:45,458

[juliet_hahn]: my communications

 

4124

00:24:44,779 --> 00:24:45,720

[maggie]: my story telling

 

4125

00:24:45,579 --> 00:24:45,959

[juliet_hahn]: became

 

4126

00:24:45,820 --> 00:24:46,842

[maggie]: my communications

 

4127

00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:46,861

[juliet_hahn]: apparent

 

4128

00:24:46,942 --> 00:24:47,303

[maggie]: became

 

4129

00:24:47,201 --> 00:24:47,422

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

4130

00:24:47,443 --> 00:24:47,563

[maggie]: so

 

4131

00:24:47,462 --> 00:24:47,902

[juliet_hahn]: people didn't

 

4132

00:24:47,784 --> 00:24:48,224

[maggie]: apparent

 

4133

00:24:47,943 --> 00:24:48,884

[juliet_hahn]: realize i struggled

 

4134

00:24:48,545 --> 00:24:49,006

[maggie]: because people

 

4135

00:24:48,964 --> 00:24:49,044

[juliet_hahn]: as

 

4136

00:24:49,046 --> 00:24:49,226

[maggie]: didn't

 

4137

00:24:49,104 --> 00:24:49,245

[juliet_hahn]: much

 

4138

00:24:49,286 --> 00:24:49,627

[maggie]: realize

 

4139

00:24:49,325 --> 00:24:49,886

[juliet_hahn]: as i did

 

4140

00:24:49,747 --> 00:24:50,388

[maggie]: i struggled as

 

4141

00:24:50,347 --> 00:24:50,467

[juliet_hahn]: when

 

4142

00:24:50,468 --> 00:24:50,608

[maggie]: much

 

4143

00:24:50,527 --> 00:24:50,887

[juliet_hahn]: i spoke

 

4144

00:24:50,668 --> 00:24:50,829

[maggie]: as i

 

4145

00:24:50,948 --> 00:24:51,028

[juliet_hahn]: to

 

4146

00:24:50,969 --> 00:24:51,209

[maggie]: did

 

4147

00:24:51,048 --> 00:24:51,769

[juliet_hahn]: them and

 

4148

00:24:51,690 --> 00:24:51,810

[maggie]: when

 

4149

00:24:51,829 --> 00:24:51,889

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

4150

00:24:51,870 --> 00:24:51,890

[maggie]: i

 

4151

00:24:51,969 --> 00:24:52,150

[juliet_hahn]: that's

 

4152

00:24:51,991 --> 00:24:52,211

[maggie]: spoke

 

4153

00:24:52,190 --> 00:24:52,330

[juliet_hahn]: where

 

4154

00:24:52,291 --> 00:24:52,371

[maggie]: to

 

4155

00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:52,430

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

4156

00:24:52,411 --> 00:24:52,552

[maggie]: them

 

4157

00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:53,211

[juliet_hahn]: kind of really homed

 

4158

00:24:53,012 --> 00:24:53,493

[maggie]: and so that's

 

4159

00:24:53,412 --> 00:24:53,492

[juliet_hahn]: in

 

4160

00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:53,653

[maggie]: where

 

4161

00:24:53,692 --> 00:24:53,772

[juliet_hahn]: on

 

4162

00:24:53,734 --> 00:24:53,974

[maggie]: i kind

 

4163

00:24:53,892 --> 00:24:54,113

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

4164

00:24:53,994 --> 00:24:54,254

[maggie]: of really

 

4165

00:24:54,213 --> 00:24:54,393

[juliet_hahn]: part

 

4166

00:24:54,355 --> 00:24:54,535

[maggie]: owned

 

4167

00:24:54,453 --> 00:24:54,914

[juliet_hahn]: so i love

 

4168

00:24:54,755 --> 00:24:54,835

[maggie]: in

 

4169

00:24:54,974 --> 00:24:55,094

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

4170

00:24:55,036 --> 00:24:55,116

[maggie]: on

 

4171

00:24:55,155 --> 00:24:55,275

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

4172

00:24:55,236 --> 00:24:55,436

[maggie]: that

 

4173

00:24:55,355 --> 00:24:55,876

[juliet_hahn]: fascinated

 

4174

00:24:55,557 --> 00:24:55,857

[maggie]: part so

 

4175

00:24:55,936 --> 00:24:56,036

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

4176

00:24:55,937 --> 00:24:56,278

[maggie]: i love

 

4177

00:24:56,136 --> 00:24:56,316

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

4178

00:24:56,318 --> 00:24:56,458

[maggie]: that

 

4179

00:24:56,336 --> 00:24:56,437

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

4180

00:24:56,498 --> 00:24:56,618

[maggie]: that

 

4181

00:24:56,737 --> 00:24:56,978

[juliet_hahn]: is why

 

4182

00:24:56,859 --> 00:24:57,200

[maggie]: so needed

 

4183

00:24:57,078 --> 00:24:57,318

[juliet_hahn]: i went

 

4184

00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:57,280

[maggie]: to

 

4185

00:24:57,358 --> 00:24:57,518

[juliet_hahn]: into

 

4186

00:24:57,460 --> 00:24:57,641

[maggie]: because

 

4187

00:24:57,559 --> 00:24:58,099

[juliet_hahn]: communication

 

4188

00:24:57,661 --> 00:24:58,643

[maggie]: that is why i went

 

4189

00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:58,681

[juliet_hahn]: not

 

4190

00:24:58,683 --> 00:24:58,844

[maggie]: into

 

4191

00:24:58,781 --> 00:24:59,282

[juliet_hahn]: realizing

 

4192

00:24:58,884 --> 00:24:59,485

[maggie]: communications

 

4193

00:24:59,362 --> 00:24:59,883

[juliet_hahn]: until later

 

4194

00:24:59,906 --> 00:25:00,027

[maggie]: not

 

4195

00:24:59,943 --> 00:25:00,123

[juliet_hahn]: in my

 

4196

00:25:00,127 --> 00:25:00,608

[maggie]: realizing

 

4197

00:25:00,243 --> 00:25:00,504

[juliet_hahn]: life

 

4198

00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:00,909

[maggie]: until

 

4199

00:25:00,925 --> 00:25:01,045

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

4200

00:25:00,989 --> 00:25:01,230

[maggie]: later

 

4201

00:25:01,105 --> 00:25:01,366

[juliet_hahn]: i went

 

4202

00:25:01,290 --> 00:25:01,470

[maggie]: in my

 

4203

00:25:01,426 --> 00:25:01,586

[juliet_hahn]: into

 

4204

00:25:01,591 --> 00:25:01,851

[maggie]: life

 

4205

00:25:01,626 --> 00:25:02,247

[juliet_hahn]: communications

 

4206

00:25:02,272 --> 00:25:02,453

[maggie]: that i

 

4207

00:25:02,528 --> 00:25:02,888

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

4208

00:25:02,533 --> 00:25:03,576

[maggie]: went into communications

 

4209

00:25:03,620 --> 00:25:03,800

[juliet_hahn]: when i

 

4210

00:25:03,856 --> 00:25:04,177

[maggie]: because

 

4211

00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:05,142

[juliet_hahn]: spoke people stopped

 

4212

00:25:05,129 --> 00:25:05,149

[maggie]: i

 

4213

00:25:05,242 --> 00:25:05,362

[juliet_hahn]: they

 

4214

00:25:05,249 --> 00:25:05,570

[maggie]: spoke

 

4215

00:25:05,423 --> 00:25:05,763

[juliet_hahn]: listened

 

4216

00:25:05,870 --> 00:25:06,090

[maggie]: people

 

4217

00:25:06,044 --> 00:25:06,264

[juliet_hahn]: you know

 

4218

00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:06,471

[maggie]: stopped

 

4219

00:25:06,544 --> 00:25:06,645

[juliet_hahn]: they

 

4220

00:25:06,611 --> 00:25:06,711

[maggie]: they

 

4221

00:25:06,725 --> 00:25:07,005

[juliet_hahn]: treated

 

4222

00:25:06,772 --> 00:25:07,092

[maggie]: listened

 

4223

00:25:07,065 --> 00:25:07,646

[juliet_hahn]: me the same

 

4224

00:25:07,393 --> 00:25:07,613

[maggie]: you know

 

4225

00:25:07,827 --> 00:25:07,927

[juliet_hahn]: they

 

4226

00:25:07,893 --> 00:25:07,994

[maggie]: they

 

4227

00:25:07,987 --> 00:25:08,127

[juliet_hahn]: gave

 

4228

00:25:08,074 --> 00:25:08,354

[maggie]: treated

 

4229

00:25:08,187 --> 00:25:08,848

[juliet_hahn]: me positive

 

4230

00:25:08,394 --> 00:25:08,975

[maggie]: me the same

 

4231

00:25:09,169 --> 00:25:09,750

[juliet_hahn]: affirmations

 

4232

00:25:09,176 --> 00:25:10,177

[maggie]: they gave me positive

 

4233

00:25:09,870 --> 00:25:10,932

[juliet_hahn]: positive reinforcement

 

4234

00:25:10,498 --> 00:25:11,640

[maggie]: affirmations positive

 

4235

00:25:11,312 --> 00:25:11,733

[juliet_hahn]: but when i was

 

4236

00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,261

[maggie]: reinforcement

 

4237

00:25:11,793 --> 00:25:12,454

[juliet_hahn]: in the class room

 

4238

00:25:12,641 --> 00:25:12,862

[maggie]: but when

 

4239

00:25:12,835 --> 00:25:12,915

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

4240

00:25:12,902 --> 00:25:12,942

[maggie]: i

 

4241

00:25:12,975 --> 00:25:13,015

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

4242

00:25:12,982 --> 00:25:13,062

[maggie]: was

 

4243

00:25:13,055 --> 00:25:13,155

[juliet_hahn]: had

 

4244

00:25:13,102 --> 00:25:13,162

[maggie]: in

 

4245

00:25:13,195 --> 00:25:13,256

[juliet_hahn]: to

 

4246

00:25:13,202 --> 00:25:13,783

[maggie]: the classroom

 

4247

00:25:13,316 --> 00:25:14,097

[juliet_hahn]: write is when i

 

4248

00:25:14,164 --> 00:25:14,244

[maggie]: and

 

4249

00:25:14,177 --> 00:25:14,277

[juliet_hahn]: got

 

4250

00:25:14,304 --> 00:25:14,344

[maggie]: i

 

4251

00:25:14,317 --> 00:25:14,397

[juliet_hahn]: the

 

4252

00:25:14,384 --> 00:25:14,484

[maggie]: had

 

4253

00:25:14,458 --> 00:25:14,818

[juliet_hahn]: negative

 

4254

00:25:14,524 --> 00:25:14,905

[maggie]: to write

 

4255

00:25:14,898 --> 00:25:15,059

[juliet_hahn]: stuff

 

4256

00:25:15,105 --> 00:25:15,165

[maggie]: is

 

4257

00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,179

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

4258

00:25:15,226 --> 00:25:15,366

[maggie]: when

 

4259

00:25:15,259 --> 00:25:15,459

[juliet_hahn]: i think

 

4260

00:25:15,406 --> 00:25:15,726

[maggie]: i got the

 

4261

00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:15,840

[juliet_hahn]: it's

 

4262

00:25:15,807 --> 00:25:16,147

[maggie]: negative

 

4263

00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:16,181

[juliet_hahn]: really

 

4264

00:25:16,227 --> 00:25:16,388

[maggie]: stuff

 

4265

00:25:16,261 --> 00:25:16,923

[juliet_hahn]: fascinating

 

4266

00:25:16,448 --> 00:25:17,511

[maggie]: so i think it it's really

 

4267

00:25:17,364 --> 00:25:17,524

[juliet_hahn]: and i

 

4268

00:25:17,592 --> 00:25:18,235

[maggie]: fascinating

 

4269

00:25:17,624 --> 00:25:18,667

[juliet_hahn]: love that you went into

 

4270

00:25:18,677 --> 00:25:18,757

[maggie]: and

 

4271

00:25:18,727 --> 00:25:18,928

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

4272

00:25:18,818 --> 00:25:19,662

[maggie]: i love that you went

 

4273

00:25:19,690 --> 00:25:19,890

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

4274

00:25:19,782 --> 00:25:20,004

[maggie]: into

 

4275

00:25:19,910 --> 00:25:20,130

[juliet_hahn]: you were

 

4276

00:25:20,064 --> 00:25:20,285

[maggie]: that

 

4277

00:25:20,190 --> 00:25:20,991

[juliet_hahn]: also kind of working

 

4278

00:25:21,009 --> 00:25:21,209

[maggie]: because

 

4279

00:25:21,031 --> 00:25:21,472

[juliet_hahn]: on yourself

 

4280

00:25:21,229 --> 00:25:21,710

[maggie]: you were also

 

4281

00:25:21,532 --> 00:25:21,812

[juliet_hahn]: like how

 

4282

00:25:21,790 --> 00:25:21,930

[maggie]: kind

 

4283

00:25:21,892 --> 00:25:22,012

[juliet_hahn]: can

 

4284

00:25:21,970 --> 00:25:22,311

[maggie]: of working

 

4285

00:25:22,153 --> 00:25:22,193

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

4286

00:25:22,351 --> 00:25:22,411

[maggie]: on

 

4287

00:25:22,353 --> 00:25:22,433

[juliet_hahn]: do

 

4288

00:25:22,451 --> 00:25:22,792

[maggie]: yourself

 

4289

00:25:22,533 --> 00:25:22,954

[juliet_hahn]: this and

 

4290

00:25:22,872 --> 00:25:23,332

[maggie]: like how can

 

4291

00:25:23,314 --> 00:25:23,534

[juliet_hahn]: you know

 

4292

00:25:23,473 --> 00:25:23,513

[maggie]: i

 

4293

00:25:23,594 --> 00:25:23,654

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

4294

00:25:23,673 --> 00:25:23,753

[maggie]: do

 

4295

00:25:23,694 --> 00:25:23,815

[juliet_hahn]: then

 

4296

00:25:23,833 --> 00:25:24,034

[maggie]: this

 

4297

00:25:23,875 --> 00:25:24,255

[juliet_hahn]: maggie

 

4298

00:25:24,002 --> 00:25:24,167

[abbe_greenberg]: yeah

 

4299

00:25:24,274 --> 00:25:24,955

[maggie]: and you know

 

4300

00:25:24,856 --> 00:25:24,956

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

4301

00:25:25,015 --> 00:25:25,216

[maggie]: and then

 

4302

00:25:25,176 --> 00:25:25,437

[juliet_hahn]: wanting

 

4303

00:25:25,276 --> 00:25:25,636

[maggie]: maggie

 

4304

00:25:25,517 --> 00:25:26,418

[juliet_hahn]: to help you know

 

4305

00:25:26,337 --> 00:25:29,583

[maggie]: who wanted to help you know i

also everyone who goes

 

4306

00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,330

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4307

00:25:29,663 --> 00:25:32,428

[maggie]: into social work or psychology or psychiatry

 

4308

00:25:32,130 --> 00:25:33,270

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

4309

00:25:32,588 --> 00:25:32,989

[maggie]: we all

 

4310

00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:34,223

[juliet_hahn]: ye

 

4311

00:25:34,030 --> 00:25:39,740

[maggie]: pretty much all of us are doing

it to because we've we've experienced like

 

4312

00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:40,152

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

4313

00:25:40,180 --> 00:25:44,648

[maggie]: these kind of challenges and so you

know we know what it feels like and

 

4314

00:25:44,708 --> 00:25:49,497

[maggie]: we have some interest in in this

field and and into learning more about

 

4315

00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:49,660

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4316

00:25:49,597 --> 00:25:49,657

[maggie]: it

 

4317

00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:50,460

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

4318

00:25:51,099 --> 00:25:52,000

[maggie]: you know for ourselves

 

4319

00:25:51,862 --> 00:25:53,163

[juliet_hahn]: no totally which is now which

 

4320

00:25:53,221 --> 00:25:53,341

[maggie]: no

 

4321

00:25:53,223 --> 00:25:53,683

[juliet_hahn]: is awesome

 

4322

00:25:53,561 --> 00:25:53,861

[maggie]: totally

 

4323

00:25:53,723 --> 00:25:53,903

[juliet_hahn]: though

 

4324

00:25:53,901 --> 00:25:54,001

[maggie]: which

 

4325

00:25:53,963 --> 00:25:54,144

[juliet_hahn]: i mean

 

4326

00:25:54,061 --> 00:25:54,141

[maggie]: is

 

4327

00:25:54,184 --> 00:25:54,464

[juliet_hahn]: it really

 

4328

00:25:54,322 --> 00:25:55,282

[maggie]: now which is awesome though

 

4329

00:25:55,104 --> 00:25:55,405

[juliet_hahn]: especially

 

4330

00:25:55,342 --> 00:25:55,503

[maggie]: i mean

 

4331

00:25:55,445 --> 00:25:55,645

[juliet_hahn]: when you

 

4332

00:25:55,643 --> 00:25:55,863

[maggie]: really

 

4333

00:25:55,665 --> 00:25:56,365

[juliet_hahn]: can do something with

 

4334

00:25:56,463 --> 00:25:56,784

[maggie]: especially

 

4335

00:25:56,466 --> 00:25:56,506

[juliet_hahn]: it

 

4336

00:25:56,804 --> 00:25:56,904

[maggie]: when

 

4337

00:25:56,906 --> 00:25:57,006

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

4338

00:25:56,944 --> 00:25:57,564

[maggie]: you could do something

 

4339

00:25:57,446 --> 00:25:57,647

[juliet_hahn]: when

 

4340

00:25:57,604 --> 00:25:57,724

[maggie]: with

 

4341

00:25:57,787 --> 00:25:57,947

[juliet_hahn]: did

 

4342

00:25:57,805 --> 00:25:57,865

[maggie]: it

 

4343

00:25:58,027 --> 00:25:58,607

[juliet_hahn]: you guys

 

4344

00:25:58,265 --> 00:25:59,306

[maggie]: so when did

 

4345

00:25:59,268 --> 00:25:59,708

[juliet_hahn]: realize

 

4346

00:25:59,366 --> 00:25:59,926

[maggie]: you guys

 

4347

00:25:59,909 --> 00:26:00,189

[juliet_hahn]: okay

 

4348

00:26:00,627 --> 00:26:01,528

[maggie]: realize okay

 

4349

00:26:01,310 --> 00:26:02,411

[juliet_hahn]: our anxiety has really

 

4350

00:26:02,649 --> 00:26:03,250

[maggie]: our anxiety

 

4351

00:26:03,093 --> 00:26:03,393

[juliet_hahn]: gotten

 

4352

00:26:03,330 --> 00:26:03,530

[maggie]: has

 

4353

00:26:03,453 --> 00:26:03,774

[juliet_hahn]: the best

 

4354

00:26:03,630 --> 00:26:03,851

[maggie]: really

 

4355

00:26:03,934 --> 00:26:04,535

[juliet_hahn]: of us separately

 

4356

00:26:04,572 --> 00:26:04,852

[maggie]: gotten

 

4357

00:26:04,595 --> 00:26:05,276

[juliet_hahn]: and then together

 

4358

00:26:04,932 --> 00:26:05,213

[maggie]: the best

 

4359

00:26:05,376 --> 00:26:05,457

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

4360

00:26:05,413 --> 00:26:05,453

[maggie]: of

 

4361

00:26:05,497 --> 00:26:05,617

[juliet_hahn]: then

 

4362

00:26:05,513 --> 00:26:06,014

[maggie]: us separately

 

4363

00:26:05,717 --> 00:26:06,058

[juliet_hahn]: when did

 

4364

00:26:06,074 --> 00:26:06,154

[maggie]: and

 

4365

00:26:06,078 --> 00:26:06,178

[juliet_hahn]: the

 

4366

00:26:06,175 --> 00:26:06,295

[maggie]: then

 

4367

00:26:06,258 --> 00:26:06,719

[juliet_hahn]: anxiety

 

4368

00:26:06,355 --> 00:26:06,776

[maggie]: together

 

4369

00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:07,139

[juliet_hahn]: sisters

 

4370

00:26:06,836 --> 00:26:07,316

[maggie]: and then when

 

4371

00:26:07,219 --> 00:26:07,440

[juliet_hahn]: really

 

4372

00:26:07,397 --> 00:26:07,617

[maggie]: did the

 

4373

00:26:07,540 --> 00:26:07,961

[juliet_hahn]: form

 

4374

00:26:07,697 --> 00:26:08,138

[maggie]: anxiety

 

4375

00:26:08,181 --> 00:26:08,301

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

4376

00:26:08,218 --> 00:26:08,558

[maggie]: sisters

 

4377

00:26:08,602 --> 00:26:08,662

[juliet_hahn]: and

 

4378

00:26:08,659 --> 00:26:08,859

[maggie]: really

 

4379

00:26:08,702 --> 00:26:09,022

[juliet_hahn]: then take

 

4380

00:26:08,959 --> 00:26:09,360

[maggie]: form

 

4381

00:26:09,063 --> 00:26:09,543

[juliet_hahn]: us what you guys

 

4382

00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:09,740

[maggie]: and

 

4383

00:26:09,603 --> 00:26:10,004

[juliet_hahn]: are you know

 

4384

00:26:10,021 --> 00:26:10,101

[maggie]: and

 

4385

00:26:10,064 --> 00:26:10,144

[juliet_hahn]: what

 

4386

00:26:10,121 --> 00:26:10,221

[maggie]: then

 

4387

00:26:10,164 --> 00:26:10,305

[juliet_hahn]: you're

 

4388

00:26:10,301 --> 00:26:10,442

[maggie]: take

 

4389

00:26:10,345 --> 00:26:10,505

[juliet_hahn]: doing

 

4390

00:26:10,482 --> 00:26:10,522

[maggie]: us

 

4391

00:26:10,545 --> 00:26:10,665

[juliet_hahn]: now

 

4392

00:26:10,602 --> 00:26:10,702

[maggie]: what

 

4393

00:26:10,705 --> 00:26:10,866

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

4394

00:26:10,722 --> 00:26:10,983

[maggie]: you guys

 

4395

00:26:10,906 --> 00:26:11,066

[juliet_hahn]: i know

 

4396

00:26:11,023 --> 00:26:11,083

[maggie]: are

 

4397

00:26:11,086 --> 00:26:11,246

[juliet_hahn]: you're

 

4398

00:26:11,223 --> 00:26:11,303

[maggie]: you

 

4399

00:26:11,266 --> 00:26:11,306

[juliet_hahn]: on

 

4400

00:26:11,343 --> 00:26:11,443

[maggie]: know

 

4401

00:26:11,346 --> 00:26:11,627

[juliet_hahn]: the road

 

4402

00:26:11,483 --> 00:26:11,744

[maggie]: what you're

 

4403

00:26:11,667 --> 00:26:11,727

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

4404

00:26:11,764 --> 00:26:11,924

[maggie]: doing

 

4405

00:26:11,767 --> 00:26:12,348

[juliet_hahn]: have podcast

 

4406

00:26:11,964 --> 00:26:12,485

[maggie]: now because i know

 

4407

00:26:12,388 --> 00:26:12,588

[juliet_hahn]: you have

 

4408

00:26:12,505 --> 00:26:12,645

[maggie]: you're

 

4409

00:26:12,628 --> 00:26:12,889

[juliet_hahn]: books

 

4410

00:26:12,685 --> 00:26:13,046

[maggie]: on the road

 

4411

00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:13,049

[juliet_hahn]: i

 

4412

00:26:13,066 --> 00:26:13,126

[maggie]: you

 

4413

00:26:13,109 --> 00:26:13,209

[juliet_hahn]: mean

 

4414

00:26:13,186 --> 00:26:13,767

[maggie]: have podcasts

 

4415

00:26:13,310 --> 00:26:13,770

[juliet_hahn]: blogs

 

4416

00:26:13,807 --> 00:26:14,288

[maggie]: you have books

 

4417

00:26:14,211 --> 00:26:14,471

[juliet_hahn]: you guys

 

4418

00:26:14,428 --> 00:26:14,569

[maggie]: i mean

 

4419

00:26:14,511 --> 00:26:14,871

[juliet_hahn]: are really

 

4420

00:26:14,709 --> 00:26:15,190

[maggie]: blocks

 

4421

00:26:15,232 --> 00:26:15,612

[juliet_hahn]: doing it and

 

4422

00:26:15,630 --> 00:26:15,710

[maggie]: you

 

4423

00:26:15,652 --> 00:26:15,832

[juliet_hahn]: i think

 

4424

00:26:15,771 --> 00:26:15,891

[maggie]: guys

 

4425

00:26:15,872 --> 00:26:15,973

[juliet_hahn]: it's

 

4426

00:26:15,931 --> 00:26:16,011

[maggie]: are

 

4427

00:26:16,033 --> 00:26:16,153

[juliet_hahn]: so

 

4428

00:26:16,051 --> 00:26:16,271

[maggie]: really

 

4429

00:26:16,333 --> 00:26:16,753

[juliet_hahn]: important

 

4430

00:26:16,632 --> 00:26:16,812

[maggie]: doing

 

4431

00:26:16,814 --> 00:26:17,014

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

4432

00:26:16,872 --> 00:26:17,233

[maggie]: it and i think

 

4433

00:26:17,174 --> 00:26:17,234

[juliet_hahn]: it

 

4434

00:26:17,273 --> 00:26:17,373

[maggie]: it's

 

4435

00:26:17,334 --> 00:26:17,474

[juliet_hahn]: is

 

4436

00:26:17,453 --> 00:26:18,154

[maggie]: so important

 

4437

00:26:17,955 --> 00:26:18,395

[juliet_hahn]: nowadays

 

4438

00:26:18,215 --> 00:26:18,435

[maggie]: because

 

4439

00:26:18,455 --> 00:26:18,515

[juliet_hahn]: it

 

4440

00:26:18,575 --> 00:26:18,635

[maggie]: it

 

4441

00:26:18,576 --> 00:26:18,656

[juliet_hahn]: is

 

4442

00:26:18,735 --> 00:26:18,876

[maggie]: is

 

4443

00:26:18,736 --> 00:26:19,196

[juliet_hahn]: talked about

 

4444

00:26:19,377 --> 00:26:19,797

[maggie]: nowadays

 

4445

00:26:19,777 --> 00:26:20,017

[juliet_hahn]: more

 

4446

00:26:19,877 --> 00:26:20,058

[maggie]: it is

 

4447

00:26:20,077 --> 00:26:20,177

[juliet_hahn]: but

 

4448

00:26:20,138 --> 00:26:20,358

[maggie]: talked

 

4449

00:26:20,217 --> 00:26:20,538

[juliet_hahn]: you guys

 

4450

00:26:20,398 --> 00:26:20,599

[maggie]: about

 

4451

00:26:20,578 --> 00:26:21,319

[juliet_hahn]: have been doing this

 

4452

00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:22,261

[maggie]: more but you guys have been

 

4453

00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:22,380

[juliet_hahn]: now

 

4454

00:26:22,301 --> 00:26:22,522

[maggie]: doing

 

4455

00:26:22,460 --> 00:26:22,600

[juliet_hahn]: for

 

4456

00:26:22,562 --> 00:26:22,722

[maggie]: this

 

4457

00:26:22,820 --> 00:26:23,662

[juliet_hahn]: a long time

 

4458

00:26:23,523 --> 00:26:23,784

[maggie]: you know

 

4459

00:26:23,722 --> 00:26:24,082

[juliet_hahn]: to really

 

4460

00:26:23,864 --> 00:26:23,984

[maggie]: for

 

4461

00:26:24,222 --> 00:26:24,302

[juliet_hahn]: be

 

4462

00:26:24,225 --> 00:26:24,245

[maggie]: a

 

4463

00:26:24,383 --> 00:26:24,443

[juliet_hahn]: at

 

4464

00:26:24,385 --> 00:26:24,665

[maggie]: long

 

4465

00:26:24,483 --> 00:26:25,104

[juliet_hahn]: the forefront

 

4466

00:26:24,786 --> 00:26:25,487

[maggie]: time to really

 

4467

00:26:25,304 --> 00:26:25,845

[juliet_hahn]: of helping

 

4468

00:26:25,627 --> 00:26:25,967

[maggie]: be at the

 

4469

00:26:26,025 --> 00:26:26,185

[juliet_hahn]: this

 

4470

00:26:26,028 --> 00:26:26,488

[maggie]: forefront

 

4471

00:26:26,485 --> 00:26:26,906

[juliet_hahn]: movement

 

4472

00:26:26,849 --> 00:26:27,250

[maggie]: helping

 

4473

00:26:27,086 --> 00:26:27,387

[juliet_hahn]: of like

 

4474

00:26:27,410 --> 00:26:27,570

[maggie]: this

 

4475

00:26:27,587 --> 00:26:27,907

[juliet_hahn]: we need to

 

4476

00:26:27,871 --> 00:26:28,291

[maggie]: movement

 

4477

00:26:27,947 --> 00:26:28,568

[juliet_hahn]: talk about this

 

4478

00:26:28,472 --> 00:26:34,201

[maggie]: of like we need to talk about

this yeah well we

 

4479

00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:35,484

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4480

00:26:35,824 --> 00:26:37,407

[maggie]: so when we graduated

 

4481

00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,460

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4482

00:26:37,507 --> 00:26:39,570

[maggie]: from college i would say both of

us you know

 

4483

00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:39,943

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

4484

00:26:39,650 --> 00:26:41,113

[maggie]: and started our adult lives

 

4485

00:26:41,790 --> 00:26:42,690

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4486

00:26:42,235 --> 00:26:44,138

[maggie]: i think me first and then a

little bit

 

4487

00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:44,534

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

4488

00:26:44,198 --> 00:26:45,941

[maggie]: later abby we started to

 

4489

00:26:45,930 --> 00:26:46,171

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4490

00:26:46,201 --> 00:26:50,548

[maggie]: both realize that our anxiety was starting

to really rule the world

 

4491

00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:50,941

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

4492

00:26:51,089 --> 00:26:56,338

[maggie]: like that we were making our decisions

based on what our anxiety was telling us

 

4493

00:26:56,438 --> 00:27:00,044

[maggie]: was okay to do or who it

was okay to see or you know there

 

4494

00:27:00,064 --> 00:27:00,966

[maggie]: were opportunities

 

4495

00:27:00,902 --> 00:27:00,983

[juliet_hahn]: ah

 

4496

00:27:01,046 --> 00:27:02,428

[maggie]: we wouldn't take because of

 

4497

00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:02,782

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

4498

00:27:02,709 --> 00:27:08,238

[maggie]: anxiety there was just end um each

in our different ways it started to become

 

4499

00:27:08,338 --> 00:27:12,124

[maggie]: more and more intrusive in our lives

and i and abby and i always like

 

4500

00:27:12,185 --> 00:27:14,528

[maggie]: to call our twenties i would say

 

4501

00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,810

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4502

00:27:15,109 --> 00:27:16,051

[maggie]: the decade of the

 

4503

00:27:16,051 --> 00:27:16,172

[juliet_hahn]: ah

 

4504

00:27:16,231 --> 00:27:18,896

[maggie]: is where you know we knew something

 

4505

00:27:18,810 --> 00:27:19,374

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4506

00:27:18,956 --> 00:27:23,203

[maggie]: was wrong we would go to try

to find out what it was

 

4507

00:27:23,220 --> 00:27:23,464

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

4508

00:27:23,283 --> 00:27:25,387

[maggie]: so we go to the nutrition is

the

 

4509

00:27:25,860 --> 00:27:26,161

[juliet_hahn]: oh

 

4510

00:27:25,967 --> 00:27:28,952

[maggie]: cardinal just the acipuncturist

 

4511

00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:29,113

[abbe_greenberg]: yeah

 

4512

00:27:29,053 --> 00:27:30,535

[maggie]: the past life rogressionists

 

4513

00:27:30,493 --> 00:27:31,258

[abbe_greenberg]: the hypnotist

 

4514

00:27:30,639 --> 00:27:30,720

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4515

00:27:32,038 --> 00:27:35,183

[maggie]: hypnotist you know gastroentorologist whoever

 

4516

00:27:34,830 --> 00:27:35,940

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4517

00:27:35,323 --> 00:27:37,767

[maggie]: was an ist who would take some

money from us

 

4518

00:27:37,751 --> 00:27:38,013

[juliet_hahn]: we're the

 

4519

00:27:38,428 --> 00:27:42,335

[maggie]: we there and many of those people

had very good things to say and were

 

4520

00:27:42,375 --> 00:27:46,240

[maggie]: very helpful so i don't want to

put it all down but

 

4521

00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:46,391

[juliet_hahn]: ye

 

4522

00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,844

[maggie]: we really did spend a lot of

time and money sort of running around trying

 

4523

00:27:50,924 --> 00:27:54,707

[maggie]: to find an answer because we still

didn't really have that vocabulary

 

4524

00:27:54,690 --> 00:27:55,440

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4525

00:27:55,027 --> 00:28:02,268

[maggie]: for anxiety and so um you know

it was a trial in era but what

 

4526

00:28:02,308 --> 00:28:03,510

[maggie]: we kept finding

 

4527

00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:03,202

[juliet_hahn]: ye

 

4528

00:28:04,011 --> 00:28:09,080

[maggie]: and what i think we responded to

in college to was that the more we

 

4529

00:28:09,260 --> 00:28:09,640

[maggie]: talked to

 

4530

00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:09,862

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4531

00:28:09,701 --> 00:28:15,029

[maggie]: each other and shared our stories with

each other we could be each other's touchstone

 

4532

00:28:15,711 --> 00:28:17,213

[maggie]: um and that that was really

 

4533

00:28:17,310 --> 00:28:18,330

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4534

00:28:17,373 --> 00:28:21,164

[maggie]: some of the most helpful and healing

things to know i'm not lone in this

 

4535

00:28:21,070 --> 00:28:21,090

[juliet_hahn]: a

 

4536

00:28:21,687 --> 00:28:22,453

[maggie]: someone else gets

 

4537

00:28:22,452 --> 00:28:22,672

[juliet_hahn]: right

 

4538

00:28:22,594 --> 00:28:22,634

[maggie]: it

 

4539

00:28:23,113 --> 00:28:24,636

[juliet_hahn]: i love that and i do want

to pause

 

4540

00:28:24,490 --> 00:28:24,730

[maggie]: i love

 

4541

00:28:24,696 --> 00:28:24,776

[juliet_hahn]: for

 

4542

00:28:24,770 --> 00:28:24,890

[maggie]: that

 

4543

00:28:24,796 --> 00:28:25,036

[juliet_hahn]: a second

 

4544

00:28:24,930 --> 00:28:24,990

[maggie]: and

 

4545

00:28:25,056 --> 00:28:25,197

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

4546

00:28:25,111 --> 00:28:25,131

[maggie]: i

 

4547

00:28:25,237 --> 00:28:25,437

[juliet_hahn]: i would

 

4548

00:28:25,331 --> 00:28:25,391

[maggie]: do

 

4549

00:28:25,457 --> 00:28:25,597

[juliet_hahn]: love

 

4550

00:28:25,471 --> 00:28:25,672

[maggie]: want to

 

4551

00:28:25,637 --> 00:28:25,718

[juliet_hahn]: for

 

4552

00:28:25,712 --> 00:28:25,972

[maggie]: pause

 

4553

00:28:25,758 --> 00:28:26,178

[juliet_hahn]: you guys because

 

4554

00:28:26,052 --> 00:28:26,393

[maggie]: for a second

 

4555

00:28:26,218 --> 00:28:26,399

[juliet_hahn]: i know

 

4556

00:28:26,413 --> 00:28:26,573

[maggie]: because

 

4557

00:28:26,439 --> 00:28:26,619

[juliet_hahn]: there's

 

4558

00:28:26,593 --> 00:28:26,793

[maggie]: i would

 

4559

00:28:26,679 --> 00:28:26,940

[juliet_hahn]: so many

 

4560

00:28:26,834 --> 00:28:26,954

[maggie]: love

 

4561

00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,280

[juliet_hahn]: people

 

4562

00:28:27,014 --> 00:28:27,775

[maggie]: for you guys because i know

 

4563

00:28:27,781 --> 00:28:27,981

[juliet_hahn]: that

 

4564

00:28:27,795 --> 00:28:28,637

[maggie]: there's so many people

 

4565

00:28:28,362 --> 00:28:29,123

[juliet_hahn]: are like okay wait do

 

4566

00:28:29,137 --> 00:28:29,338

[maggie]: that

 

4567

00:28:29,263 --> 00:28:29,884

[juliet_hahn]: i have anxiety

 

4568

00:28:29,698 --> 00:28:29,959

[maggie]: are like

 

4569

00:28:29,945 --> 00:28:30,125

[juliet_hahn]: i know

 

4570

00:28:30,019 --> 00:28:30,179

[maggie]: okay

 

4571

00:28:30,245 --> 00:28:30,385

[juliet_hahn]: even

 

4572

00:28:30,299 --> 00:28:30,339

[maggie]: i

 

4573

00:28:30,445 --> 00:28:30,706

[juliet_hahn]: talking

 

4574

00:28:30,460 --> 00:28:30,680

[maggie]: do i

 

4575

00:28:30,766 --> 00:28:30,806

[juliet_hahn]: to

 

4576

00:28:30,780 --> 00:28:30,900

[maggie]: have

 

4577

00:28:30,866 --> 00:28:30,986

[juliet_hahn]: like

 

4578

00:28:30,980 --> 00:28:31,301

[maggie]: anxiety

 

4579

00:28:31,026 --> 00:28:31,507

[juliet_hahn]: my kids

 

4580

00:28:31,361 --> 00:28:31,762

[maggie]: i know even

 

4581

00:28:31,828 --> 00:28:31,988

[juliet_hahn]: i'll

 

4582

00:28:31,842 --> 00:28:32,102

[maggie]: talking

 

4583

00:28:32,028 --> 00:28:32,128

[juliet_hahn]: say

 

4584

00:28:32,142 --> 00:28:32,223

[maggie]: to

 

4585

00:28:32,168 --> 00:28:32,529

[juliet_hahn]: to my son

 

4586

00:28:32,423 --> 00:28:32,503

[maggie]: my

 

4587

00:28:32,589 --> 00:28:32,749

[juliet_hahn]: that's

 

4588

00:28:32,603 --> 00:28:32,904

[maggie]: kids

 

4589

00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:33,470

[juliet_hahn]: anxiety

 

4590

00:28:33,224 --> 00:28:33,505

[maggie]: i'll say

 

4591

00:28:33,511 --> 00:28:33,611

[juliet_hahn]: he's

 

4592

00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:33,625

[maggie]: to

 

4593

00:28:33,651 --> 00:28:33,751

[juliet_hahn]: like

 

4594

00:28:33,665 --> 00:28:33,725

[maggie]: my

 

4595

00:28:33,771 --> 00:28:33,931

[juliet_hahn]: that's

 

4596

00:28:33,785 --> 00:28:34,146

[maggie]: son that's

 

4597

00:28:33,971 --> 00:28:34,272

[juliet_hahn]: no test

 

4598

00:28:34,206 --> 00:28:34,426

[maggie]: test

 

4599

00:28:34,352 --> 00:28:34,692

[juliet_hahn]: anxiety

 

4600

00:28:34,526 --> 00:28:34,987

[maggie]: anxieties

 

4601

00:28:34,733 --> 00:28:35,173

[juliet_hahn]: mom i'm just

 

4602

00:28:35,047 --> 00:28:35,809

[maggie]: like this a testing

 

4603

00:28:35,574 --> 00:28:36,395

[juliet_hahn]: i'm anxious

 

4604

00:28:36,289 --> 00:28:36,530

[maggie]: i'm just

 

4605

00:28:36,455 --> 00:28:36,836

[juliet_hahn]: and i'm like

 

4606

00:28:36,930 --> 00:28:37,752

[maggie]: i'm anxious

 

4607

00:28:37,758 --> 00:28:37,918

[juliet_hahn]: that's

 

4608

00:28:37,812 --> 00:28:37,992

[maggie]: and i'm

 

4609

00:28:37,958 --> 00:28:38,359

[juliet_hahn]: anxiety

 

4610

00:28:38,032 --> 00:28:38,172

[maggie]: like

 

4611

00:28:38,499 --> 00:28:39,280

[juliet_hahn]: like you might not

 

4612

00:28:39,194 --> 00:28:39,735

[maggie]: t's anxiety

 

4613

00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,021

[juliet_hahn]: have a big level

 

4614

00:28:39,855 --> 00:28:39,975

[maggie]: like

 

4615

00:28:40,081 --> 00:28:40,222

[juliet_hahn]: of it

 

4616

00:28:40,256 --> 00:28:40,336

[maggie]: you

 

4617

00:28:40,262 --> 00:28:40,422

[juliet_hahn]: because

 

4618

00:28:40,376 --> 00:28:40,516

[maggie]: might

 

4619

00:28:40,462 --> 00:28:40,562

[juliet_hahn]: it's

 

4620

00:28:40,536 --> 00:28:40,637

[maggie]: not

 

4621

00:28:40,602 --> 00:28:40,723

[juliet_hahn]: not

 

4622

00:28:40,677 --> 00:28:40,797

[maggie]: have

 

4623

00:28:40,763 --> 00:28:41,063

[juliet_hahn]: stopping

 

4624

00:28:40,817 --> 00:28:41,378

[maggie]: a big level

 

4625

00:28:41,183 --> 00:28:41,384

[juliet_hahn]: but you

 

4626

00:28:41,438 --> 00:28:41,798

[maggie]: of it because

 

4627

00:28:41,704 --> 00:28:41,864

[juliet_hahn]: you're

 

4628

00:28:41,819 --> 00:28:41,939

[maggie]: it's

 

4629

00:28:41,904 --> 00:28:42,005

[juliet_hahn]: like

 

4630

00:28:41,979 --> 00:28:42,079

[maggie]: not

 

4631

00:28:42,065 --> 00:28:42,345

[juliet_hahn]: worried

 

4632

00:28:42,139 --> 00:28:42,440

[maggie]: stopping

 

4633

00:28:42,365 --> 00:28:42,566

[juliet_hahn]: you have

 

4634

00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:42,620

[maggie]: but

 

4635

00:28:42,586 --> 00:28:42,946

[juliet_hahn]: butterflies

 

4636

00:28:42,660 --> 00:28:42,720

[maggie]: you

 

4637

00:28:42,986 --> 00:28:43,106

[juliet_hahn]: you're

 

4638

00:28:43,081 --> 00:28:43,241

[maggie]: you're

 

4639

00:28:43,127 --> 00:28:43,367

[juliet_hahn]: a little

 

4640

00:28:43,261 --> 00:28:43,361

[maggie]: like

 

4641

00:28:43,407 --> 00:28:43,707

[juliet_hahn]: nervous

 

4642

00:28:43,421 --> 00:28:45,044

[maggie]: worried you have butterflies you're a little

nervous

 

4643

00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:46,232

[juliet_hahn]: there's levels of it

 

4644

00:28:46,286 --> 00:28:46,627

[maggie]: but there's

 

4645

00:28:46,412 --> 00:28:46,652

[juliet_hahn]: and so

 

4646

00:28:46,747 --> 00:28:47,147

[maggie]: levels

 

4647

00:28:46,933 --> 00:28:47,574

[juliet_hahn]: and there's different

 

4648

00:28:47,388 --> 00:28:47,648

[maggie]: of it

 

4649

00:28:47,614 --> 00:28:48,235

[juliet_hahn]: definitions

 

4650

00:28:47,969 --> 00:28:48,049

[maggie]: so

 

4651

00:28:48,315 --> 00:28:48,375

[juliet_hahn]: of

 

4652

00:28:48,329 --> 00:28:48,610

[maggie]: and there's

 

4653

00:28:48,455 --> 00:28:48,495

[juliet_hahn]: it

 

4654

00:28:48,670 --> 00:28:48,951

[maggie]: different

 

4655

00:28:48,796 --> 00:28:49,016

[juliet_hahn]: can you

 

4656

00:28:48,991 --> 00:28:49,612

[maggie]: definitions

 

4657

00:28:49,076 --> 00:28:49,958

[juliet_hahn]: guys both share

 

4658

00:28:49,692 --> 00:28:50,614

[maggie]: of it can you guys

 

4659

00:28:50,479 --> 00:28:50,599

[juliet_hahn]: what

 

4660

00:28:50,754 --> 00:28:50,954

[maggie]: both

 

4661

00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,140

[juliet_hahn]: your

 

4662

00:28:51,054 --> 00:28:51,335

[maggie]: share

 

4663

00:28:51,260 --> 00:28:51,821

[juliet_hahn]: definition

 

4664

00:28:51,836 --> 00:28:51,996

[maggie]: what

 

4665

00:28:52,021 --> 00:28:52,803

[juliet_hahn]: of anxiety

 

4666

00:28:52,337 --> 00:28:53,198

[maggie]: your definition

 

4667

00:28:52,903 --> 00:28:53,384

[juliet_hahn]: is and then

 

4668

00:28:53,399 --> 00:28:53,459

[maggie]: of

 

4669

00:28:53,544 --> 00:28:53,624

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

4670

00:28:53,659 --> 00:28:54,180

[maggie]: anxiety

 

4671

00:28:53,664 --> 00:28:54,345

[juliet_hahn]: know abbie i would love

 

4672

00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:54,421

[maggie]: is

 

4673

00:28:54,385 --> 00:28:54,465

[juliet_hahn]: for

 

4674

00:28:54,501 --> 00:28:54,581

[maggie]: and

 

4675

00:28:54,505 --> 00:28:54,586

[juliet_hahn]: you

 

4676

00:28:54,641 --> 00:28:54,761

[maggie]: then

 

4677

00:28:54,646 --> 00:28:55,207

[juliet_hahn]: to continue

 

4678

00:28:54,922 --> 00:28:55,402

[maggie]: you know abbie

 

4679

00:28:55,287 --> 00:28:55,467

[juliet_hahn]: where

 

4680

00:28:55,463 --> 00:28:55,723

[maggie]: would love

 

4681

00:28:55,627 --> 00:28:55,868

[juliet_hahn]: maggie

 

4682

00:28:55,763 --> 00:28:55,963

[maggie]: for you

 

4683

00:28:55,928 --> 00:28:56,088

[juliet_hahn]: left

 

4684

00:28:56,024 --> 00:28:56,585

[maggie]: to continue

 

4685

00:28:56,208 --> 00:28:56,349

[juliet_hahn]: off

 

4686

00:28:56,665 --> 00:28:57,707

[maggie]: where maggie left off

 

4687

00:28:59,042 --> 00:28:59,983

[abbe_greenberg]: well okay so

 

4688

00:29:00,229 --> 00:29:00,410

[maggie]: okay

 

4689

00:29:00,364 --> 00:29:00,845

[abbe_greenberg]: anxiety

 

4690

00:29:00,590 --> 00:29:00,710

[maggie]: so

 

4691

00:29:00,985 --> 00:29:01,045

[abbe_greenberg]: is

 

4692

00:29:01,091 --> 00:29:01,592

[maggie]: anxiety

 

4693

00:29:01,105 --> 00:29:01,746

[abbe_greenberg]: a human emotion

 

4694

00:29:01,712 --> 00:29:02,092

[maggie]: is a human

 

4695

00:29:02,107 --> 00:29:02,267

[abbe_greenberg]: right

 

4696

00:29:02,153 --> 00:29:02,974

[maggie]: emotion right

 

4697

00:29:02,988 --> 00:29:03,529

[abbe_greenberg]: and so if you're

 

4698

00:29:03,420 --> 00:29:04,230

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4699

00:29:03,549 --> 00:29:03,809

[abbe_greenberg]: a human

 

4700

00:29:03,695 --> 00:29:03,775

[maggie]: and

 

4701

00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:04,010

[abbe_greenberg]: being

 

4702

00:29:03,855 --> 00:29:04,076

[maggie]: so if

 

4703

00:29:04,050 --> 00:29:04,210

[abbe_greenberg]: you've

 

4704

00:29:04,096 --> 00:29:04,236

[maggie]: you're

 

4705

00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:04,711

[abbe_greenberg]: experienced

 

4706

00:29:04,256 --> 00:29:04,897

[maggie]: a human being you've

 

4707

00:29:04,771 --> 00:29:05,192

[abbe_greenberg]: anxiety

 

4708

00:29:04,937 --> 00:29:05,418

[maggie]: experienced

 

4709

00:29:05,392 --> 00:29:05,893

[abbe_greenberg]: everybody

 

4710

00:29:05,478 --> 00:29:06,600

[maggie]: anxiety everybody

 

4711

00:29:06,454 --> 00:29:06,674

[abbe_greenberg]: knows

 

4712

00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,067

[juliet_hahn]: yeah

 

4713

00:29:06,734 --> 00:29:07,255

[abbe_greenberg]: what anxiety

 

4714

00:29:07,181 --> 00:29:07,381

[maggie]: knows

 

4715

00:29:07,335 --> 00:29:07,436

[abbe_greenberg]: is

 

4716

00:29:07,441 --> 00:29:07,541

[maggie]: what

 

4717

00:29:07,516 --> 00:29:07,576

[abbe_greenberg]: on

 

4718

00:29:07,622 --> 00:29:07,962

[maggie]: anxiety

 

4719

00:29:07,676 --> 00:29:08,117

[abbe_greenberg]: some level

 

4720

00:29:08,062 --> 00:29:08,142

[maggie]: is

 

4721

00:29:08,157 --> 00:29:08,277

[abbe_greenberg]: like

 

4722

00:29:08,243 --> 00:29:08,283

[maggie]: on

 

4723