Episode 181: The Pink Peony - Jennifer Musser's Journey from Veterinary Dreams to Start-up Consulting

your next stop Jan 02, 2023

Jennifer shares leadership lessons from big business. She founded JLM & Associates Consulting, LLC, to help small business owners, who love what they do, gain more control of their business with less stress. During her career at top consulting firms PwC, Kroll, and Marsh & McLennan, she transformed multiple companies, improving financial and operational results. Today, she applies her business know-how to help entrepreneurs solve financial and operational issues through her personalized small business solutions. Jennifer is community focused, participating in various nonprofit support activities. Currently, Jennifer is a member of NJ's Morris County Chamber of Commerce and the Morris County Economic Development Corporation Entrepreneur Roundtable. She also belongs to the Project Management Institute (PMI), including the national and New York City chapters. Jennifer served as an executive mentor for Seton Hall University's Stillman School of Business Leadership Program for five years. Jennifer graduated from Villanova University with honors, holding a BS in Business Administration (Finance). She earned certificates in Sustainable Business Strategy, Business Analytics, and Global Business from Harvard Business School Online. Jennifer is also Lean Six Sigma Green Belt Certified. Jennifer's philosophy is: Be kind. Be a giver. Be present. Her greatest achievement is seeing clients succeed.

Here's what I cover with Jennifer Musser in this episode:

  1. Discover how Jennifer Musser overcame the challenge of pivoting from a career in veterinary medicine to finance and business.
  2. Explore how Jennifer Musser turned her passion for business into a successful consulting business.
  3. Learn how Jennifer Musser found success in the start-up world and experienced different cultures through global travel.


You can find Jennifer on LinkedIn and Instagram.


Remarkable Quote:

“Be kind. Be a giver. Be present."



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Welcome back to your next stop. This is Juliet Hahn. In this episode I speak with Jennifer Musser of Jlma Consulting. You can find her on LinkedIn. Jennifer Musser.



And that's musser. You can also go to her website which is Jlma Consulting.com. Jennifer went to Villanova to be a vet. She thought that she was going to. Be a vet her whole life.



It was something that fascinated her. She loved that until she had to take chemistry. And it's a really touching story when she realized that that wasn't going to be her path until she walked into the business school and fell in love. Got a job before she even graduated in the finance world in New York City, spent many years there, then opened up her consulting company after kids. Really fun story, really cool story, really touching story.



There's a great story about pink peonies. That you guys do not want to. Miss this again, Jennifer Musser, Jlma Consulting. And you can also find her on LinkedIn where she spends most of her time. Jennifer Musser.



And that is Musser. We will see you guys for the next episode. And again, if you are not aware of this, I am a consultant where I help people with their stories. So I help people if they're a small business, entrepreneur, influencer, micro influencer. Even if you're in the corporate business world and you do not know how to tell your story, maybe you have a crazy story that you don't know how to put the pieces together to connect deeper with an audience.



Or maybe you think your story really isn't that a big deal. But what you don't realize, there's parts of your stories that are going to connect deeper with people. So if you're trying to get your story out, whether you're going on the podcast circuit, because that's a great way to grow your business, great way to get your story out there, or you're doing the media circuit, or you're just doing networking events and you need help taking those pieces of your story that are going to connect deeper with people. Because what do I say all the time? Stories connect us.



Reach out to me. I will help you. And I'm really excited about this. I love this part of my business. I love this part about my story.



And I will give you a free. 30 minutes consultation to see if we are a match. Again, if you do not know how to formulate your story or you don't. Know how to pick the pieces out. To connect deeper with people, I can help you do just that.



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Hello. Welcome back to your next stop. This is Juliet Hahn and I am here with my next guest. You know, I say it every single time, but I have to because I'm really excited for you guys to learn about another story of someone that followed a passion and turned it into a business. So welcome Jennifer Musser.



How are you? Good. Thanks for having me, Juliet. Yes, I'm excited. So I'm excited to dive into this, but I want everyone I know in the beginning of this episode when it goes out, I will share where they can follow you.



But it's also good as people are sitting and listening, sometimes they like to search around on the Internet and see what everything is about. So you can find Jennifer on LinkedIn. You can also find Jennifer at her website, which is Jlma Consulting. Is that correct? Yes.



Right. And then also on Instagram at Jlma consulting. And so you can kind of find out what Jennifer is doing. So let's get into this. I'm so excited.



I woke up excited to do this today with you. Oh, I'm so glad. Okay, so what I always do, I always start my episode is just give us a little background about who you are, where you grew up, if you went to university, and then we'll kind of get into the meat of the episode. So I grew up in a town called West Cobwell, New Jersey. Northern New Jersey.



If anybody's out there from the Montclair Roseland Livingston area, not far from New York City. I actually live in that town now. And I let's see. So I grew up with both my parents were in the public education system. They're retired now.



My dad retired as a principal of a high school in Mars County, New Jersey. My mom was an elementary school teacher, taught for second 3rd grade. Both had careers of 35 years, approximately. And because of that, I did value education. And I was a good student, which makes sense, having parents in the field, right.



So I went to Villanova University. I entered wanting to be a vet very much. Math, science, that was my thing. And I thought that's what I wanted to do from a very young age. Well, fast forward.



And I graduated as a business from the business school there as a finance major and went off to start my career in New York City. So what you go in as may not be what you come out as right now. What made you pivot? So you obviously loved animals, and I know that's when we connected, that's what you said, because I'm a huge animal lover. Everyone knows.



So you went in kind of thinking, since you were also strong in math and science, it made sense. You love animals. What made you pivot at Villanova to kind of go more into the business? Finance, chemistry, advanced chemistry. So put me in calculus, and I was fine, but put me in organic chemistry, not so much.



And I learned a lesson at a young age because I was so determined, and like many young people are who think they know what they want to do, I felt like I was failing by, well, why can't my mind bend this way? Why can't I do this? And so that was a huge lesson before the age of 20 for me. And then I thought about, well, what do I like and where do I go from here? And I have friends in the business school, so I talked to them about what they were up to, and I'm very much a people person.



And so I met with long story short, I met with an advisor in the business school, and I just felt it. It just felt right. And from the first time I walked into that building, it just had a totally different vibe, and it was very much who I thought I wanted to become. It just felt right. Right?



And, you know, it's so interesting because my story, my listeners know I went into school to be a corporate fitness major. And the second I had to take anatomy and physiology, I was not good in science. I'm dyslexic. And so my struggles were really in math and science, english and history. I was actually okay, funny enough, then that's what people always like, wait, dyslexia reading?



And I'm like, yeah, there is some of that, but it's a different way that you learn and process. And so science was torture for me, and I remember walking in and sitting down and them going through it and me being like, you know, there's no way this is so uncomfortable. And like you said, it was almost like, but wait, this is what I thought I always wanted to do and not always wanted to do, but this is what I'm supposed to be doing, right? This is what I'm good at. Why does anatomy and physiology have to be in here?



Of course, obviously, you have to know about the body and the way it moves when you want to be in fitness. I didn't think of it that way. And so it is one of those things that you pivot. I pivot into communications, which, again, I was like, oh, my gosh, this is what I'm supposed to be doing. But it is a little bit of a flailing thing.



And I do think it's really important, though, as young people, I always say it's really important to know what you don't want to do versus what you want to do. And I think so many people, you know, even right now, my son's a junior, and they're like, okay, well, what do you want to do when you grow up? I mean, who knows what they want to do at 17 1617? You want to have fun with your friends. You want to play your sport.



You don't want to think about what I'm doing as an adult. So I really do think that there's some disservice as we are raising our kids to be like, you need to know what you want to do. And that's why it's so important to get, like, the those summer jobs and do those internships and volunteer at different places, because you find out quickly what you really don't like. And then once you find out all of what you don't like, you kind of pivot into the, oh, wait, I really like this, because it feels different. So I love that you said that when you walked into the business school, it was a feeling.



You knew that's what you wanted to do. So you graduated with a business degree, and then you moved to New York City. Yeah. Tell us more. I started my career in New York City, and that was something that in business.



I mean, at the time, when I was in school, new York City, it still is. It's such a global hub. But that was who was going to Goldman and who would go in there, and if you landed a big job out of college, it was like, wow. And so I did an internship with Pricewaterhouse Coopers going into my senior year, and I loved it. Absolutely loved it.



Talk about feeling something. So by September, by mid September, I had agreed to come on board with them of my senior year, and some of my friends were like, you have a job. It's September. So that was an awesome feeling. And I stayed there for four years.



That was in their financial advisory services group, and I learned a ton, and it was just so fun. A bunch of us just kind of we grew up. You're just immersed into this new culture, and you come up together, and it was really fun time. It's a great feeling because I know I went into advertising sales, so I did, even though I majored communications, radio, television, and film. I then went into the advertising sales part because that really felt like my home.



I knew I wanted to move to New York like you. I got a job before I graduated, but it was May, so it was like, you know, the end of April, May, but I knew I wanted to be in the city. I grew up in New Jersey as well, but down in southern New Jersey, and I just loved the city. I loved the feeling of it. I loved the energy you got when you just, like, literally across the bridge, and you're like, it's just this feeling.



Of New York City. And I think it's so special. And then when you're first working, it's that group of young people that are all learning about the city. You all go out together, you go to the local bar, you have your cocktails out, if that's what you do. But that's what we did.



It was like, okay, where are you meeting? If we went to the gym, we went to the gym. But it was really such a special time in my life as well, because it was just I was growing up and just happy to wake up every day, literally, I would look out the window and it sounds so corny, but it was like, oh, my God, I'm here. I'm doing something that's really exciting, and it's all my hard work now. School was really hard for me because of my Dyslexia.



I did play two sports in college, and so it was almost like I made it. Right. I did something that my teacher said I wasn't going to do. I did something that my guidance counselor said I wasn't going to do. F all of them.



I am here, and I have made it. And it's a great feeling to be surrounded with that. So I love that you kind of had that same experience. Absolutely. And I lived in Jersey and did the commute thing, so I wasn't immersed in the day and night.



But you'd go out, it's amazing what you can do at such a young age, right. Because you're out having fun until whenever. And then for me, I had to go back home and then come back and do it all the next day. But I couldn't do that now, put it that way. Right.



Yeah. Neither can I. I've tried.



So you were with them for four years, and then where did your journey take you from there? So I stayed in the consulting world for several more years. So I left for a promotional opportunity, went to another company called Duff and Phelps. They've since been acquired by a company called Cruel that I also worked for. And that was a really exciting time, too, because we were building I was in valuation consulting at the time, so we would work on a lot of merger and acquisition stuff and value entities and intellectual property.



It was very cool. So I went there and we built a practice. And looking back, I was thinking about this, getting ready for your show. It kind of makes sense where my journey ends up, because there that was one of my favorite experiences. We were building something and really making a go of it.



And that was fantastic. Global travel, which I also did at PwC, but global, like, I went to Tokyo twice, and London, like, it was nothing. And Paris and being able to work and do that was awesome, right? Especially at a young age too. Oh, yeah, amazing.



I love that time and you just kind of do it and it's such an experience. So I encourage that kind of if you have the opportunity to go somewhere and see another culture in the way that one of my clients was in Paris and we did what we thought was a presentation to get ready to go there and deliver it. And he looked at it and basically said, this is garbage because it's just more formal at that time anyway. And what was normal for us he thought was garbage. So we were like up all night trying it.



We had two days before we had to get on a plane to do this and we turned it around. But you just see how things operate differently. It's a great experience. It is. Now, did you love that energy of being like the challenge of the start up more than the traditional?



Or did you think that you loved the not just the challenge, but like the culture and the atmosphere at the smaller kind of startup? I like the energy of when you're working with other people and you're building something that is what you're going to put your name on, your stamp on, you're going to be part of it. However that is that was exciting energy. And then also we were getting clients and then a client would end up being repeat business. So it just felt really good because we were accomplishing all that.



And there was a sense of camaraderie there that was a little bit different than say, at PwC where something was already established. Right. Which is cool because I do think that some people are more built for that kind of start up mentality, the entrepreneur mentality, and not everyone is. And there's nothing wrong with it. It really is just the way you're built and what you can do.



So from there, where did your journey take you? So from there I went to another consulting company called Crowle, who ended up being acquired by Marsha McLennan. So I worked at places that just got acquired. It's kind of funny looking back. And there I made a pivot from consulting into corporate finance.



So I got to a point where I knew, like you said earlier, Juliet, not knowing what you didn't want to do. So I was at a point where either stay in the valuation consulting area doing that kind of work and make a go of it and work your way up to managing director partner type level or you get out. So I made that pivot. And really the driving factor there was because I had these experiences being immersed in a client setting. I thought to myself, well, I'm on this side of the table as a consultant, but it would be really cool to be trying the day to day at a company and seeing what that's like instead of jumping around, just having more stability, I guess, more just a different perspective.



And so I did that for a while and then I became a mom. And then I had to kind of reassess, what does Jennifer want to do? And I made a go of the corporate thing again. And then another Pivot came when I was working for a company who was owned by private equity investors, and they were going through a turnaround situation restructuring. And long story short, I fell in love and talk about like a light bulb going on and passion for something.



And again, Juliet, that goes back to the whole building something because you're in this situation where something's not working and you kind of have to take a step back and be like, what are we going to restructure? What are we going to redo? How's it all going to come together? It's kind of like taking a huge puzzle apart and then putting it back together again. Right.



Which is and some people's brains just love that, right? Yeah. So I loved it. Absolutely loved it. And I was on a turnaround path.



So the late why I chuckle is because the turnaround was so successful that I ended up leaving the company because it was bought by a company based still in the state, but in another state and they were closing the corporate office and all that stuff. So then I had this other time to figure out what Jennifer wanted to do. But the day I left, my last day there, I'll never forget. Like, I had certain songs I was listening to and the sun was shining and somebody who was on my team gave me these beautiful pink penis, which is a story, a separate story. So I didn't know where I was going, but I knew it was going to be really good and I was ready for it.



And some of your listeners, well, a lot of your listeners have that experience. From what I've heard on the show. Right now, how old was your child? And you just had one at the time? Yes.



So he was in this was 2017, so he was in fourth grade getting ready to start the middle school life. Right. So now you find yourself in between kind of situations. And I do want to know about the flower story, if you could share them.



So pink peonies are my thing. It's my favorite flower. But the reason why it's my favorite flower is because my mom's mom had pink peonies. And as a kid, I remember the way they smelled. I remember her cutting them and bringing them in the house.



And my mom always liked them. So when my grandma passed away, I was in college and my mom, thank God she was thinking clearly about it. So she transplanted them from my grandma's house to my parents house, so that my mom now she cuts the pink penis and whatever, so they just remind me of happiness and love and make me think of my grandma and my mom. My mom's still alive, but they're very special to me. So this woman on my team, she's so special, and I just loved her so much.



And we developed a bond, and she reported to me, but we just had a great relationship. We still keep in touch. So on my last day and she was going with the transition, she was moving to Florida. So on my last day, she brings in these beautiful pink peonies. So my last day there, I had these beautiful flowers on my desk, and it wasn't like one peony, it was several and an arrangement.



And so I left that building so happy to just embark on this new chapter, carrying my pink phoenix. And it just kind of strengthens my love of the flower because now I think of my family, but I also. Think of this special woman, too, right on your journey. I mean, that's so cool. And I think it's so important when people think back on their story, because I always say stories connects us, right?



You hear someone else's story, a little piece of it, and you can relate or it just intrigues you. And that's what kind of builds that deeper connection. So anyone that's listening to this is going to know, like, oh, wait. Especially if they're like, wait, I don't know what a pink penny is. Like, you just brought up something that people are going to be curious about, they're going to look into.



And the story that you connected with your mom and your grandmother is so special. And I love that your mom got them replanted at your house because that's just, you know, your grandmother's up there looking down, being, like, excited about it. My grandmother's favorite were lilacs. And so wherever we go, wherever we move, I always plant a lilac tree.



I think of my grandmother, I think of the smell. I think of why she loved them. And then we, growing up had and probably not on purpose, but like a huge lilac. It wasn't even like a tree. It was like a giant bush entangled, and it wasn't very pretty, but it it produced the most beautiful lilacs.



And so I always think of, like, my backyard. I can picture it exactly where it was, on the side yard. And so I think it's really special for us to think back on those things because it does. It brings joy. So I love that.



So when you left here, your son was in fourth grade, ready to go into the middle school, and you kind of were at a crossroads. Were you thinking, okay, I want to go back? Do I have to go back? What do I want to do? And so take us through that, please.



So it was like many moms feel a conflict because on one hand, your career is so important to you, and then on the other family is another aspect of who you are and then there's the third of just who you are, like who Juliet is, who Jennifer is. And so I intended to take a break and gather my thoughts, spend time with the family because I had been working like crazy on this turnaround thing and like anything in life, when you're paying more attention to one thing, you have less time for the other. So I started volunteering and I was more active with things he was involved with. And knowing that 6th grade was coming, I wanted to be there for that whole middle school thing because my friends tell me, buckle your seatbelt for the Tween years. And so I took a much needed break, really for myself, for my family, even spending more time with my parents.



My dog was old at that time, she was like 16. So I took the break and then COVID hit and well, I should back up. So looking at I was, to answer your question, I was thinking, well, what do I want to do? And I knew I wanted to go back into consulting. When I told some people that in my corporate circles they were kind of like really?



Because they just were like, why do you want to do that? But I knew I wanted to do it. It was just a matter of how does Jennifer get on that path and what does that path look like, what kind of consulting it is? COVID so I was interviewing and stuff but I was very selective at that point because I wanted to wake up happy to do whatever it was that I was doing. And so then COVID hit and I just went into this.



After a few months of COVID when it was dragging on, I kind of went into this self reflection journey. So many of your listeners have probably embarked on that themselves. What's working, what's not working, where do I want to go and what do I want to do? And there's a story behind the story there. But I basically said I'm done with what ifs I'm done with the risk aversion, which I was a very risk averse person.



And I don't mean I didn't jump out, I didn't Skydive and stuff like that. There were certain and I think that goes back to my very stable, steady upbringing and that definitely relates to that. And then the career that I did at that point, I was helping clients mitigate risk and so it was just so ingrained in me. So one day, I'll never forget, I was sitting at my kitchen table and I was like, I'm doing this, I'm going to go out on my own and make a go of it. And it was a really good feeling.



But again, it's like when I left the building with my pink Pines and got in my car, I didn't know where it was going, but I knew it was going to be really good, and that was the end of 2020. Okay, wow. So tell us what your company does and then I want to get into some more questions of that, but share with the listeners what your company does. So I help small business owners develop tools for their financial and operational areas. So I help alleviate stress that comes with growing a company.



And by financial and operational tools, I mean things like simple decision making. That may not be so simple when you're in it, you need help. It could be budgets and forecasting and projects. Strategy. I offer strategy sessions, and my vision was to offer customized solutions because when you're working with small businesses, your business may have similarities to mine, but we're different.



And we may be on different maybe on the same path, but different steps along the way. And so I really get to know my clients and talk to them about where they are, what their biggest challenges are, where they want to go, what their priorities are, what they're procrastinating. And so it's a very customized thing. And also my vision was when you're dealing with small businesses coming from the big business world, small businesses don't have that kind of budget. And so the projects need to be a little more streamlined, a little less fancy at times.



And so that's one of the things I offer. So it could be an hour strategy session or it could be a longer term project or all the steps in between. So I'm really using my big business experience to help small business owners. Right now, when you were sitting at that kitchen table and you're like, okay, I'm going to go on my own, was this the vision that you had right away, or did it kind of develop into that? That's a great question.



So when I started, I had a broader picture in mind of helping. Having the small business I call a small business Progression program is the kind of agency offering that I do for small businesses. So I had that in mind, but I also had other services in mind too, that weren't necessarily for small businesses. So like, when you start out any business, it kind of transitions over time a little bit or you need to refocus or find your sweet spot. And the small businesses ended up being something that I wake up every day excited to do what I do right.



Which is so important. And I love how I think it's really important for the listeners to hear. You had a lot of consulting business background and doing it in a corporate setting, and then as you pivoted through life, you had kids. A lot of my listeners that are moms can relate to that. I know when I stopped working, I chose to stop working.



I was like, I want to be there. I was able to. That was what I always wanted. To do. But then as my kids got older it was very apparent, okay, I'm not going to go out and play tennis and have lunch every day.



That's just not me because I will only focus on that and then I'll need to be like a tennis star and I will be like live, eat and do that. So I was like, okay, my athletic competitive stuff back then when I was in college, I was like, I can do it lightly, but I am an all or nothing person. So I knew I needed to kind of ease into whatever I was doing. And the reason why I asked you that question is because I know for myself, when I started my podcast, it just developed into something and then my consulting side of my business just developed into something very naturally. It was like a need that when I have guests on or I talk to people that are small businesses that need help sharing their stories and they don't know how to get into the podcast circus or they don't really know how to articulate their story, depending on you have a 30 minutes podcast versus an hour.



And I help my consultant, I help my clients do just that. And that really kind of just came about because I had people approaching me and I wasn't even in the beginning charging for it because I was like, oh, this is what I do, I love doing this. And it was like, okay, can you help me do this, can you help me do that? And then I realized, wait, I'm doing this all the time, but I don't have the time to do it for everyone and I would love to put more time into it. This is what I should be doing.



This is what my consulting side of my business is doing. Where before I was consulting and kind of helping people follow that passion and find that passion and I still do that, but this is really what I was meant to do. I was really meant to work with small businesses, influencers podcasts, people being able to share their story, being able to articulate it, because there's points just like the Pink Peony story, people got to know you a little bit more because of that little thing. And I know that I'm good at asking those questions, but it's because I've been doing this for as long as I've been doing, you know, I've been talking to people and interviewing people through the podcast. But really when I was born because of my Dyslexia, and this is part of my story, I realized that when I spoke and talked to people, I connected at a deeper level.



I connected in a different way than when I was sitting and doing work. And so I always used my communication skills to kind of connect and have people see me in a different light than just what I was doing in school. And so as you get out of school, people don't realize, oh wait, she really struggled in school because why would they know that unless I tell them? But then it just was one of those things that I honed in on and really not on purposely got good at, but it just did. And then it kind of brought me to where I am now and it's really cool.



So I love that you were sitting at the table being like, this is what I wanted to do. And then it really developed into something bigger and you really niche down to figure out, okay, this is where I am needed. And that's where sometimes, like small businesses and the people that are entrepreneurs that start, we have an idea, we have a vision, we have a goal, and sometimes the goal goes left, it goes right, it goes up, it goes down, but then it continues. If it's what you're meant to be doing and it's really your passion, it kind of continues up that ladder, okay, here, let's connect the dots. Let's connect to the dots.



Let's connect to the dots. So again, tell people where they can find you. I know we did it and then we're going to do it in the beginning again, but where you hang out the most would be great. Okay, so the website is Dalemaconsulting.com on there. I have an enlightened leadership blog where I write and post and not everything I write, but the stuff that I think would be useful there so you could all check that out.



Instagram is Dalema Consulting and LinkedIn is Jennifer l Muster. So I hang out on it's a mix of LinkedIn and Instagram. Now I find that I kind of have two different audiences and there definitely is some overlap, but some small business owners aren't on LinkedIn and they're on Instagram. So I try to hang out on both areas. That's great.



So give my listeners before we end. Just really.



What kind of is that as you talked about, there's been a couple of times where you've talked about feelings. Like you had that feeling. You walked into the business school, you did that feeling when you worked at that one company where you were really growing things. What is the feeling that you wake up every day and you know that you're going to be tackling working with people if you can just give us a little bit of that and the difference between when you were working at corporate versus working for yourself. So in corporate there's big ideas and you have scale and there's so many good sides of that.



And I would sit at times and think to myself, I have so much to offer if I move on from here. But how does that all fit? And finding Jlma Consulting, I figured out that I can take the talent and the skills I've learned and the experiences and share that on a different platform. And I say that the Founder chooses what they find. And talking to you here, that is part of your story, too, Juliet.



We just figure it out and we find what lights us up. And so I feel like when I wake up now, I kind of tell myself, wherever you are, wherever I am, it's where you're meant to be, right here, right now. And it all unfolds as it's meant to. So I've learned to try to be more patient and just let things unfold. I love that.



And it's so true. It's so true. And I'm going to leave it at that because that was golden. I love that. So thank you so much, Jennifer, for joining your next stop.



You guys, you know what to do. Like share rate review. But the other thing is, go follow Jennifer and you might listen to this episode and be like, oh, that's so cool. You might not be a small business. You might be in corporate.



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