Episode 218: The Power of Saying Yes - How One Conversation Sparked a Game-Changing Partnership

your next stop Feb 20, 2024

With over 50 years combined experience, the DiStefano Group has a proven track record of excellence. Founder and CEO, Gina DiStefano, is an executive business consultant and coach, specializing in workplace revitalization through leader-led coaching and culture refinement. Previously, she worked as an HR professional for one of the largest hospitality brands in the world and CEO of a national non-profit, luxury retail company. In 2023, Gina partnered with Plymouth Rock TV, joining them as an executive producer and host. Together, PRTV and the DiStefano Group equip owners and leaders with coaching, culture and complete media coverage. In conjunction with her professional accolades, Gina takes her personal development very seriously. Her commitment to strengthening her mental acuity is evident in the passion and dedication she brings to life through her coaching. She has been featured in multiple media appearances, publications (THRIVE Global, Huffington Post, Entrepreneur Magazine) various podcasts, contributor to, "Breaking in the News: Build Buzz for your Brand", creator of SUE YOU™(developed to ensure the individual and collective growth of an organization), Revitalize System (developed to increase awareness of personal and professional opportunities), and is a Keynote Speaker.


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Welcome back to your next stop. This is Juliet Hahn. In this episode, we recheck in with Gina DiStefano. She has been on your next stop, and it's one of those evolving stories. I love this so much.

Gina is now the to Stefano group is back up. If you remember from COVID she had to kind of take a step back. Now it's back up. She's re kind of blown up her brand, you guys. This is really exciting.

Executive coaching, so many different things. But also, Gina has now partnered with Plymouth Rock TV, and so she has all of this very interesting things to offer businesses with streaming and this whole new wealth of knowledge. So you can go follow the deseffano group. And it's D-I-S-T-E-F-A-N-O. Desefano group on all of the socials.

Gina DiStefano on LinkedIn. But also follow Plymouth Rock Tv. You can download it on your smartphone. You can also download it on smart tvs. And they have tons of really fun content.

It is like the Netflix and the hulu as they're starting out. So definitely go follow them and enjoy this episode of your next stop.

Welcome back to your next stop. This is Juliette hahn. I am here with a really special guest. You guys might remember Gina DiStefano from a couple of episodes, but why I love doing these evolving episodes, which I've kind of been doing lately, is because I love for you guys to be like, oh, my God, I remember when she was doing this, and then to see where she's doing now because of all the work that she has done in her life and not being scared, not being scared of failure, not being scared of what's going to happen. She just keeps moving forward, doing that, daydreaming, doing the work that we talk about all the time on your next stop.

So welcome, founder and CEO of the Distefano group, Gina DiStefano. How are you? I'm good, Juliet. How are you? I'm so excited to be back.

And I love how you said evolution, because that's all I could think about all morning before we hopped on. I was like, it's been such an evolution. And I want to first congratulate you on all of your success, because we met about four years ago. Remember four years ago, I was in the closet, and I was like, what's happening? And I was b listed.

I wasn't even supposed to be your guest, and your guest wasn't there, so you ended up with me, and here we are four years later, and you have. Wow. Just congratulations on all your success, and I'm just so excited to be back. I appreciate it. Well, and the fun thing is that we connected, like, early on in what I was doing.

You already had an established business, but because of COVID you kind of had to put that on the back burner. You started doing some work for a nonprofit. That's how we kind of met. You got all these skills in the nonprofit. Realize that as you pivoted out of that, where you were meant to be.

But what we always talk about is on this, you and I talk about this all the time anyways, but you have to follow those signs. And when people are like, oh, was I on the wrong path? No, because you learned something from that path. So if you can take out what you learned from that path, even if it was not a great situation, whether it sucked, whether you were like, oh, my gosh, there's a lot of situations happening, trauma, whatever it is, if you can kind of go introspectively into yourself and then do the work to figure out, what message can I take out of that experience and then move it forward for the growth. And that's what we both have kind of done in our life, which is really cool to kind of feel and see that.

And so I would love, because what you're doing now is really exciting. With Plymouth Rock TV again, we come in and out of each other's lives. We're always connected. Like, hey, I see what you're doing. Awesome job.

And then we kind of come together because one of the things that's fun and we can talk about, because nothing really ever came about it, but we were working on getting, actually doing a workshop for hiring managers with stories, because we both so believe in that story, that personal story, and how you express it and how you talk about it. And both of our paths kind of like, were like, you know what? That's not the time for us to do this, but we did a lot of collaboration and had a lot of brainstorming, which then just leads us to where you are today. So if you can kind of take us through a little bit, know where you are with Plymouth Rock TV, where the DiStefano group has again blossomed and turned into what it is again because of all those steps and all the. Work you have done, and that was amazing.

You could not have teed that up better because, wow. And I think when people, for me, when I started a business, and it's true, I think if people knew what they would getting into, they most likely wouldn't have done it. But once you're in it and you're in it to win it, it just becomes this insane, exciting journey of personal evolution as you're growing your career. And so everything that has happened in my life since day one when I started my company almost 15 years ago, I have just become so much more confident in the fact that failure is amazing. And while you're failing, just look around, because there's always a blessing in there and a lesson that's going on, so nothing is truly ever bad.

And that's just the mindset I have now that's been strengthened over the years. And so when we met about four years ago, yeah, I had stepped out of my company due to Covid, and I stepped into an interim CEO position for a nonprofit. And it was at that time where I was shooting a commercial, and this guy came in to shoot the commercial, and he's yapping about, how much are you paying for cable, and are you streaming? And I'm like, let's shoot the commercial and move on here. And little did I know that.

And we'll get there. Four years later, here he comes back. So prior to that, I took this position. Then I stepped back into my company around January of 2022. And so much had happened during COVID and I was still kind of just, where am I landing right now?

Where am I best used? And what do I actually want to do? So was doing a lot of work in the culture aspect and the coaching and falling back into love with executive level coaching and people development and all the nuances of what had changed during COVID And then about seven or eight months ago, the crazy man who wouldn't stop talking to me about my cable bill came back into my life, and we went out to lunch, and now I'm very well versed in streaming. I no longer have cable. I've cut the cord.

I'm saving hundreds of dollars. Like, streaming is the way of the future. So I'm well aware of what's going on now. And he says he had asked me to do a tv show for him. And at first, my first response was, no, just not something I would be interested.

And I said, I have my thoughts about the media. I have everything that's out there. I don't think the media is something I'd really want to jump into right now. And he said, well, that's exactly the reason I wanted you. He said, I know your morals, values, and beliefs, and I think you could do amazing things with the network and bringing on great content and helping us create something that is unlike anything that's ever been done before and pioneer it out to the world.

And then I was like, well, now you have my attention. Like anything we do, right? So now it's just yes. And that's another funny thing, too, because as I've evolved in my career in the beginning, yeah, you're supposed to say yes to everything at a certain point in your career. I don't think you're supposed to say yes to everything.

I think you're supposed to utilize your discernment and experience over the years and be particular. But when you say yes, you still say it as excitedly as ever. But I'm not saying yes to everything anymore but this one. Because actually it was no. My first response was no, and then it turned into a yes because I saw the opportunity and amazing things that could be done.

So over the last eight months, what I have done is I have partnered with Plymouth Rock TV, which is a global content network, streaming network. We are partnered with other streaming networks and we stream globally. And the exciting part about where we are now is there's kind of this opportunity for us to bring on great content, great people, great storylines, all of that stuff that I have been working on, essentially from the business aspect, now I'm saying, how can I make this work in business for business owners and leaders, and how can we also catapult on that and just get some really great new content out there to blast across the world? So Destey Group and Plymouth Rock TV essentially works as such. So I have been consulting for 15 years now and I specialize in executive level coaching.

I believe it's leader led, top down. So I can walk into a company and assess soup to nuts, what needs to be done from the people piece, operational hiring and retention, all of that stuff, right? Plays in culture is a huge piece of that. See, that was pretty much where I was working. And now when we in house this, now I can take on the branding aspect, marketing, imaging, everything you need for media and to market you.

And now we can take it a step further. Now we can in house and produce you. We can produce content, commercials, and then we can take it an even step further there. Whereas we own a network, we are a streaming network. We can get you out nationally, globally, wherever you want to go.

So there's so many birds now that can get killed with the one DiStefano group, Stone. And I hope that made sense because there's a lot that plays into it, but it's essentially we can walk into a company and no matter what the issue is going on. We can fix it. And then you want to market it, great. We can mark you.

And then you want to get it out into the media. We can get you out into the media, like one stop shop. No, I love it. And I'm going to go back to something that you said that I want the listeners to think about again. You said, there's a time and place to say yes, and then there's a time and place to say no.

And I talk about this all the time, right? Because especially when you're in business, when you're in business for yourself, when you're doing what we're doing, we get hit up all the time. I mean, my LinkedIn messages, my emails, I constantly am getting cold calls, which is fine. And a lot of times, I don't have time to read them or do them or respond. I try to respond because I know I've been on that other side.

So I want, respectfully be like, you know, if I'm not interested in this time, just so they know they got it. Because sometimes you send an email and you're like, did it go in their junk? Do you really think they got it? Should I follow back up? So this is for all those people that are kind of cold calling.

And you said, this time, you said no, but then you said yes. And I think what's really important is a lot of times people do that. And I'm going to take you to my latest podcast, word blindness, that I do with Brent Sopel. It's called word blindness, and it's for dyslexia. And I said to him, after I filmed a television show and got an interview with him, I want to help more in this dyslexic world.

Obviously, I'm dyslexic. My son, my dad, my sister. There's so much that we to. I think we should start a podcast. I think I can really help get your message out there.

And he said, no. And I was like, okay, well, think about it. He said no. I was like. And he actually said, fuck no.

That's a solid no. Yeah, it was a solid no. And I was like, okay, well, think about it. And then he kind of was like, okay. And what he said, and this is what I think you did, too.

You thought about it, and maybe you prayed on it. Maybe you put it out in the universe, whatever you do. But sometimes the no is from fear and not because it doesn't fit into our lives. And that is very different. There's times where I'll say no.

To things, because I know it's just not something that I believe in or it doesn't line up with my values. It doesn't line up with what I'm doing. So it's a very easy no. There's times where something might come to me and I'm like, okay, my plate is full. I need to think about where this would be on the totem pole with my plate full.

So there's that also, right? Yeah. Good. No go. I just think as you evolve in your career, you become much more strategic, because in the beginning, right, we don't really know much.

And then you get out there and you start to build and create something, and you can see what worked, what didn't work, like, what needs to be improved on. So you're much more intentional with who you work with and how you work. And so at this point of my career, I was like, is this going to fit in? That's why I learned now also the importance of focusing. And when you are involved in something, your time and your energy is so vital.

So I was like, can I take this on? And what would that mean for group and this company that I'm building and building? Is it going to sidetrack it? Because, again, you live and you learn. I had taken some really big risks over the course of my career, and I had lost really big.

So I was at a point where I wasn't going to do that again. So I was very selective in what I was starting to say yes to. And then it becomes, you start to get more into an alignment with it, and it gets easier and easier to do, because if something's just not sitting right, feeling right, and I can't fit it in right now, it's a hard no. And it's so true. And there's also, like, this is also in the networking world, right?

Again, we have people cake. Do you have 15 minutes on LinkedIn? And a lot of times it's like, no. And I had a situation where I said yes. It was random.

It was the pick cherries with the podcast, which is like the little snippet, and his name is Stuart Goffman. And it's really interesting because I said yes to him. I don't even know why. And we laugh about it now because he's like, what made? And I was like, I don't know.

I think maybe it said you were from Jersey. Something connected me, and I was like, I'll listen to this guy. And then what? Their app is for podcasters. It's like a little snippet that you can take and send it out like an IG or.

I love that. Yes, I've seen pictures. It's the so and. But I said yes to him. He's the one that introduced me to Brent Sopel, and then he also introduced me to another gentleman that we just had on word blindness.

And so it's one of those things. It took me ten minutes in the beginning. I helped them with promotions, and they're like, oh, is that okay? And I'm like, yeah, I have makeup on. I'll just do it really quickly because I understand what your product is.

And it wasn't that I was looking for anything in the back end. It was just a connection. And I was like, I like what this guy's doing. I like that I can help. It took you to a certain point in your career and a certain amount of experiences where you can look at something because, I mean, we get solicited all day, every day.

I mean, I get bombarded. But I have to have the wherewithal to look at that and be like, that actually could be of substance. That's worth my time. And so back in the day, I was saying yes to everyone. I mean, everyone got a yes, and you're running around.

And now I realize the importance of not being busy, of the importance of being very mindful and strategic and slower, because in the beginning, when you're building a business, for me anyway, it was just, go, go. Yes. And that gets you to a certain level of success, but not the type of success I wanted, not the type of success that was scalable or sustainable. And I learned a lot of hard lessons. So now I can say yes quickly to a conversation or an idea.

And it's funny you say that, because I still act that way. If I hear something or see something that catches my eye, I impulsively reach out. If I'm watching someone's podcast or I see something, and I'm like, oh, that person. We have a lot in common. I'll immediately pick up the phone and reach out or send a message and say, hey, want to hop on a call that looked interesting or blah, blah, blah.

And people do it to me all the time. And again, I take a look at who they are, and I'm like, this could be in my time, and it leads to incredible, incredible opportunities. But you lead with a very authentic way, and that is what's really important, because there's people out there that are not authentic. That's one of the reasons why I think with Stuart, I said, yes. Because I was like, this guy's totally authentic.

There's people that hit you up, and they don't come from an authentic place. So if anyone can take anything out of this, if you are doing the cold calling, doing that, go with an authentic. Don't have the I'm selling you. Right? Because you just go with, like, I'm curious.

And that's what people don't allow themselves because they're too busy to stop and be like, let me just connect with this person. And then that brings in the whole story. Right? I mean, that really ties in. Authenticity is confidence.

So there's not a lot of people that are confident enough out there and to just do that. And I understand it's taken me a lot of years, but I remember. I remember it felt like 20 years ago to be scared to pick up the phone. Oh, my God. Juliet Hahn.

I can't call her. Juliet would love for somebody to just say, hey, your podcast on blah blah blah was amazing. Would you like to have a conversation? They're going to say it, but it takes a lot of confidence to, first of all, have the courage, the balls to reach out and then be your authentic self. So not everyone can do that.

Again, I coach a lot of people on how to do that because you're absolutely right. That is the key to success, is just going directly to the source with a kind, open, authentic heart and seeing what the side effect is. And people crave those kind of interactions in life. That's what the world needs more of, just more authentic people saying, hey, I have an idea. This looked great, blah, blah, blah.

But we don't talk like that anymore. We don't do that. No. Yeah. So take us down a little bit more about what you guys are doing there with Plymouth rock tv.

Take us through what a day looks like some of the fun stuff that's coming out just really give us so people can say, oh, yeah, I understand this. I understand now, wait, my company kind of needs this, or, I know someone that needs this, or I just want to tune in because this sounds really cool. Okay, so, essentially, we call ourselves the Netflix of New England, because everybody knows what Netflix is. And we are Plymouth Rock TV. We're based in Plymouth, Mass.

But we are global national everywhere. And it's just like a Netflix or a hulu. So you have all your different channels, you have all different types of entertainment that you can watch from home shows, travel, food. We have great celebrities, artists that are all involved with us. And so a big part of my job now that I've joined is to seek out and be very selective with the types of individuals that we're working with.

And Juliet, I mean, I know you're a busy lady, but you're going to be getting a phone call, because a lot of the work that I'm doing with business owners. Right. Business owners and leaders are fascinating. They're some of the most fascinating people that I've ever met. Entrepreneurial minds just, oh, I love talking to an entrepreneur.

And unfortunately, with entrepreneurs, people just go after them for their success. How did you do this and this and this? Not truly the whole story. The ins and outs, which you specialize in, in getting that. So when we work with people, it's about getting their stories out and creating content around that and then highlighting their product.

So that's something that we're really doing. And then for our viewers, right. We want to watch real people with local content because that's another huge area of opportunity that we have with the network now is local content. Once cable goes away, people are going to want to be able to turn on something like a hulu, which will be Plymouth Rock tv, and watch stuff locally going on. And wouldn't you want to be a part of that?

Wouldn't you want your business forefronting that? So this is what I spend my days doing. I spend my days talking to the most amazing owners and leaders and entrepreneurs across the country, across the world. I mean, had a call with Sweden yesterday. Like, Sweden's getting involved.

It's just the most amazing, interesting people and coming together to say, what are we going to do to change how media is viewed and how are we going to be the ones to pioneer and start putting some really good stuff out there? So my days are spent shooting. My days are spent having conversations, interviews, creating outlines and storylines and content. It's amazing. I could have never dreamed that my career could have gotten to this level where I get to literally do everything I love to do all in.

One of the things I love that this came from an opportunity that you did with a nonprofit. And so there was, like, whether that was a hard time in your life, wherever it was, there was this really beautiful thing that came out of it. And that's what, again, sometimes people need to kind of just sit and think about times of their life where things have come out and then really introspectively, like, okay, let me go through that. Because that's where you get the growth, right? It's the hard times where you get the growth.

It's not in the easy times. We don't get the growth. No. And I remember you doing, before you joined them, didn't you do a couple of segments? Like, wouldn't you do something once a year for them?

Was it the same I did. I was hosting. They host the annual Thanksgiving parade. Hosting. But it's so interesting that you say that about the growth comes in the times of pain and, you know, bits and pieces of my story that are out there, but I have had lots of trauma throughout my life, and you're absolutely right.

And it was in those times of just complete and utter darkness and loss and fear and pain that the most beautiful ideas and thoughts and experiences. I know it sounds like an oxymoron, but when you look back, I wouldn't trade anything. I am in utmost gratitude for all the horrific things that happened to me, for all the people who either intentionally or unintentionally hurt me. I am grateful for all of it. It's because I can look back now with a certain level of self awareness and a raised level of consciousness to say this really was all for me.

This was really all happening for me, even though it doesn't, doesn't when it's happening, but on the other side of it, when you can look back, that will not only give you more hope and excitement for the future, but it just continues to strengthen my faith in God and this higher power and this magical universe that we're existing in now for only a short time. There's a lot of growth and pain, so don't be afraid of pain. It's not something we want. It's not something, oh, I can't wait to have more pain for more growth. But it's part of life.

I mean, life is not easy. It is not easy. It was never supposed to be easy. They never said it was going to be easy. You don't get better at life.

Oh, no, I'm sorry, you do. I was going to say life doesn't get easier, you get better. Those are some things that I just cling to. And I'm like, there's a lot of substance to with statements because it's true. Life's never going to get easier.

You get better. Right. And every time you look back on those horrible moments of pain and trauma, on the other side with so much awareness and growth and beauty, but that's. Because you've done the work. And so people that have gone through it or are in it right now, they have to do the work.

And it's coming to the terms of, okay, this happened to me, and then healing in that, right? Healing in it and then not moving on. Because I don't want to sound, like, crass about it, but it is being in those times of darkness. And then when you're out of that darkness, to go back to the darkness to heal from that darkness, because if you don't ever heal from it, if you're just like, okay, now I'm in the light. But I didn't do any of that work before, so I didn't get the confidence, I didn't get the healing.

And you just kind of keep moving, you're going to keep having that darkness. And sometimes it repeats itself, because in my belief, and we've talked about this, whether you believe in the God or universe, sometimes God puts things in your path because he wants you to learn. And if you're not learning, it's going to keep happening and it's going to funny. It's once again how God is so amazing. I mean, God has been the one, the only, the everything in my life to get here, and he has shown me, again, all of those areas to make me better, to make me better.

And as a coach, I do so much of that work right there because you say you have to heal, you have to do the work. People don't even know what that means. Right? They don't know what that means. And if you don't even know what that means, how can you start to do it?

And then therefore, you're going to repeat the pattern. So a lot of work I do now as a coach in that area of my business is getting people to be aware of the patterns, to look around at who is in their circle, who's contributing, to learn how to speak differently. There's so many stages, and I've literally trademarked systems that I implement with my clients to get them out of that cycle. And to your point, start doing the actual work because people don't even know what that means. Oh, I went to therapy.

Oh, I did this. Oh, I did that. That's not the work, kid. That's not the work. No.

And one of the things, because if anyone's listening, they're like, well, I don't really believe in God, so I'm not going to work with Gina. You bring it to nothing to do with God. This work is solely about the person. It's my personal beliefs. I believe in God, and I've worked through God.

But when you work with me, oh, no. It is you figuring out who you are and who you're associated with and how you want your life to go all about you. Yes. And one of the things that you touched on that I think is so important and is something that we talk about in word blindness, Brent and I, all the time. If you haven't gone through the traumas.

So, like, someone goes to a therapist because they have drug and alcohol addiction or they've tried to commit suicide, and the therapist on the other side has never experienced any of those things. Sometimes there's a disconnect, but when you have gone through it and you've done the work yourself, you're able to help people in a different light. Not saying that a therapist is not because some people find that very soothing and it works for them, but going to someone that has had sort of the same kind of traumas or has gone through. And you've gone through a lot. So it's like you're like, no, no.

It's just right here. I'm an expert. Like, you have had a lot of. That's what I'm saying. And I love how you said that, too, because that's been my belief forever.

And I speak about this openly. If you are ever going to hire a therapist or a coach, the first thing you want to do is interview them. You want to hear their story and that story better. Your jaw better be dropped. I need to work with this person.

They get it. Just because you have a fancy piece of paper from an I school, I don't give a shit. I want to help people. But you aren't going to help me because there's nothing you can do. You want to be helped by someone who has been through it and has a higher level of understanding than anyone else ever will.

And I say that to people. Listen to my story, and you're going to want to work with me because not only have I overcome horrific traumas in my life, but I learned the proper behaviors, and now I can teach on them. And so when I work with people, it's the same thing. I work with coaches, but I make sure that I am blown away by their abilities, what they've overcome, and I'm going to know confidently that they can help me. I know this is like a morbid example, but if you have an illness or if you have cancer or if you lost a child, right.

You want to sit next to someone who has gone through the experience of losing a child or having cancer or bad. I don't want to talk to someone who has theorized about it or who's read some books on it. Huge difference. Huge difference. Someone who has lived through it, lived to tell exactly and can help have real impact.

So where can people find you and where can they tune in and how can they plymouth I'm everywhere now this. Is the exciting piece, first and foremost, on any of your smart devices, your phone. Download the Plymouth Rock TV app. What did I say? Roku Apple.

All smart tvs have it. So you can find us there. I can't name them all, but we have streaming partners. So you're going to see our content there, along with local now distro tv and several others. You can go to my [email protected], where you can get information on the company, how to contact us, and information on consultants that work within my group and the media coaching we offer.

And you're also on LinkedIn. I'm on LinkedIn. I'm on Facebook. I'm on Instagram. And they can find that all under the group deste group.

That's awesome. And then they can find also with Plymouth Rock TV. Plymouth Rock TV is everywhere. So follow us on all social channels, all social media. Most importantly, download that app on your phone and on your smart devices.

There's really awesome content out there. And again, for people that are interested in taking their business to the next level with that, with that level of production content and streaming, it's a no brainer. And I've been doing so much work around going in and analyzing companies and getting them up, soup to nuts up and running, and then being able to produce content. And some companies just need the content produced. So it's just like, no, we're good.

Let's just do some really cool shit. I mean, the talent we have, the years of experience in the media industry, and again, people like yourself might not yet help me because it's the storylining. It's teaching people how to tell a story and getting it out there. And it's real people doing real things. And it's not this crap that's been out there, right?

I've really taken reality tv and shit it all up.

But it is so true. And it goes back to the story. I mean, you have to know how to tell your story because it's the connection especially, and I hate saying now more than ever, because I feel like all throughout life, people say that, right? It's now more than ever. But it's not even just a now more than ever.

It's just that human connection and humanizing thing. It is now more than ever because anyone who was alive in this time knows this is not good. We've come really hard for how many years? And not just now. I remember even as a kid, people think, oh, you only hear awful stuff on the news.

Why is there only awful stuff on the news? Because they want to bombard you with fear. Because when you're in fear, they can control you. And that is why I said no to the media. And now I say yes because now I have a network that I have complete control over where I can put only good stuff out.

And that's what's going to help the world, and that's what's going to change humanity. So that's what we're doing. I love it. I'm going to end there. That was like a mic drop.

Well, but this is, again, what I love about what I do. Because listeners can hear where your passion is, right? They can hear when you get excited. So you guys, don't forget rate, review and share. But share this, because again, you don't know who I say this all the time and it's like a broken record.

But you don't know who needs to hear this. You don't know who needs Gina's services. Plymouth Rock TV. You also don't know who needs to kind of have a little inspiration. Like maybe they're going through a dark time and they're like, okay, you know what?

These girls have gone through some stuff and that they touched on. Not deep, but they touched on it. Let me reach out because maybe I need what they are doing. I need to listen. So rate, review, share.

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