YNS Live with Tammy Pescatelli

May 19, 2022

Listen to a new episode of Your Next Stop recorded live on Fireside with host Juliet Hahn featuring comedian Tammy Pescatelli.


Arguably one of the hardest working women in comedy today, Tammy Pescatelli brings brassy sexiness with a bold voice of witty sarcasm to her audiences, holding her own on the topics of sports, television, dating, and family life using tongue-in-cheek humor. She is relatable to every audience member-male & female. After seeing Tammy perform, nearly everyone wishes she was their best friend or sister! 


Tammy Pescatelli’s “Way After School Special (2020), was a highly anticipated follow-up to Tammy’s award-winning one-hour Netflix special, “Finding the Funny.” 


Also in 2020, Tammy appeared on the highly acclaimed Showtime Comedy Special, “Women Of A Certain Age 2”.


A popular clip from Tammy’s appearance on the “Just For Laugh’s Gala with Sebastian Maniscalco”, continues to rack up views on the JFL Facebook and Youtube pages garnering close to 50 million views!


Signed to Git R’ Done Records, Larry the Cable Guy’s label, Tammy took funny back in time with her successful 2019 album release, “#TBT: THROWBACK TAMMY” which debuted at number 2 on iTunes and is in continuous play on SiriusXM and Pandora.


Tammy has recently appeared on The View, Guy’s Grocery Games: Comics Compete, and The Howard Stern Show.  She was chosen by Jenny McCarthy & Donnie Wahlberg to be a part of their Dirty, Sexy, Funny franchise that includes a hilarious all-female slate of standup comedians with a comedy special on EPIX/ Hulu, a touring show, and a pilot for A&E. 


With a slew of other accolades under her belt – including co-creating, executive producing, writing, and starring in her own reality show, A Stand-Up Mother, on the WeTV Network – Tammy has appeared on numerous television shows including The Tonight Show with Jay Leno (4x), A&E's Donnie Loves Jenny (2x), Bravo’s Rocco’s Dinner Party, CBS’s The Talk, NBC’s Last Comic Standing: The Best of the Best, her own Comedy Central Presents Special which won the Comedy Central Standup Showdown, and many, many more. 


Tammy’s career jumpstarted after appearing - and being one of the Final 5 - on NBC’s Last Comic Standing. Her season played out to more than 18 million viewers, garnering her a mass of loyal new fans that found themselves alongside the others she had created through years of touring the comedy clubs. It solidified her as one of the sharpest comics in the comedy world! 


Pescatelli also guested a number of times on the syndicated Comics Unleashed show and was chosen for their “Best of the Best” which was a worldwide top-selling DVD. Internationally she was also featured on the Best of the Just For Laughs, in Montreal, Quebec Canada and The World Stands Up & The Laugh Factory in Europe and Australia. 


Tammy’s material is a fixture on the comedy channels of Sirius XM Radio and she is a regular guest of The Howard Stern Wrap Up Show, Jenny McCarthy’s “Dirty, Sexy, Funny” (where she often co-hosts), TapOut and Bennington. She also makes frequent appearances on the syndicated The Bob & Tom Show.


Tammy recently starred as the flawed, yet lovable lead in “That’s Amore”- an independent “grown-up rom-com” that will be released Feb 14, 2020. Her film credits include: Made in Brooklyn, I Am Battle Comic, Single: A Documentary Film and Everybody Wants to Be Italian. She was recently chosen to be a host on Circle TV’s standup show called “Standup Nashville: Live From Zanies”.


Also a regular on USO Comedy tours, Tammy is honored and humbled to have been privileged to have entertained our troops all over the world. 


She currently continues to tour and sell out shows around the country. 


Follow Tammy on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and LinkedIn.

Remarkable Quote:


We take on the world collectively now [especially on social media] instead of one at a time.” ~ Tammy Pescatelli



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Episode Transcript


Juliet Hahn  00:01:11 

Hello, everyone. How are you? Jimmy, I'm so sorry that was

I was in the green room.

Sending you messages,

and you were, like, I'm in I, and I'm like, no. No. No. But I'm in Fireside. You're like, yeah. So am I


Tammy Pescatelli  00:01:24 

Yeah. I been I didn't know the I don't know to go in the green room. I haven't guessed it enough with people to know to go to the green room so that's my bad. I just wait and they start to show, and then I send like, hey, speaker request.


Juliet Hahn  00:01:38 

Yeah. No. No worries. I'm so sorry because all of sudden I was like, well, maybe. I was, like, I know we didn't touch base because I figured you know, whatever. So Welcome to Hawaiian.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:01:45 

No. No. It was all good. All done. I'm here. You're here. Say. What well


Juliet Hahn  00:01:49 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:01:50 

what we got we have.


Juliet Hahn  00:01:51 

Perfect. Yes. Well, everyone welcome to why and s live. I am your host, Juliet Hon, and you guys all know Tammy, Oh, my god. I am so excited to dive into this. I think we met in a room,

and I'm trying to think of whose room it was, but it was really funny because we start... Yes.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:02:07 


Lost the moss, ross the bus.


Juliet Hahn  00:02:10 

Yes. And we started talking about



Tammy Pescatelli  00:02:15 



Juliet Hahn  00:02:15 

sports or something because I was sitting outside

with, like, you know, waiting for soccer, and then we really, like, started talking, and we both... I I do had me cracking up because it was just so freaking funny.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:02:25 

Yeah. Well, and I watched your Nfl thread because I'm the daughter of a former pro football player, and I used to have seminars years ago before it was popular


Juliet Hahn  00:02:26 

So anyway,


Tammy Pescatelli  00:02:37 

teaching. Like, I would take an hour and deep brief women on

the Nfl and the Nba so they could spend time it's archaic, I know, but with their husbands and their boyfriends and understand what was going on,


Juliet Hahn  00:02:50 

No. I love that. And I don't think I knew that about you. So I even love that even more. Oh my gosh. We gotta we get we gotta dive into that too. Well, so anyone that doesn't, can you just, like, you know,


Tammy Pescatelli  00:02:53 

Oh, okay.


Juliet Hahn  00:03:00 

introduce yourself? So people that don't know

can give a little sense of of you?


Tammy Pescatelli  00:03:04 

Well, I'm Kim, and I'm a comedian. I don't like I don't.

I don't like to go through all the... You know, I mean, that's that's

I'm a comedian. So if you don't know me, that's okay. But if you're in comedy, you know who I am. And that's.


Juliet Hahn  00:03:17 


And and funny. I mean, like, I absolutely love your stuff. I my face hurts just like watching

and and listening to you. And I think when we were talking about it was because you have how many kids you you have teens as well?


Tammy Pescatelli  00:03:31 

I just have one that I know about and, yeah. He's

fourteen now.


Juliet Hahn  00:03:36 

Right. And so and what sports was he play because I know that that's because I have a fourteen year old as well.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:03:37 


Who knows. Every I mean, everything from football to best

to wrestling to now I have to leave here because we have a track me, like, you know, there's just always something you but that again, I grew up with that. My father

was a cold chapter football all and my brothers were in all the sports, and, you know, they were wrestlers and Iowa, my brother was a stage champion and I was, like, sports has been

always on the tip. And I think that's why what made me such a good comic

I'm not saying this such a good comic That's sounds horrible, but so good at the business


Juliet Hahn  00:04:12 

No. Yes.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:04:13 



Juliet Hahn  00:04:14 

Oh my god. You are though?


Tammy Pescatelli  00:04:14 

Because I always wanted to win or at least have a plan if I lost how to come back and win again.


Juliet Hahn  00:04:20 

Right. So tell us a little bit about so your dad played


football what so for what team, and then much.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:04:26 

So what would he... Is... Again, all days,

he literally played for what they called the the minor leagues back then.


Juliet Hahn  00:04:34 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:04:34 

So and he played for...

He played for the Saint Louis cardinal.

And then their farm team, which was the defines generals,

and then went up and retired with just, like, one down with the Cleveland grounds. Because they were trying to do something nice for the home voice. So

that's okay. My dog my kid running in out.


Juliet Hahn  00:04:55 


carla Jane can be please? Yes.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:04:56 

And I have a home phone that I am, but who knows sometimes

if you know the people override it.


Juliet Hahn  00:05:03 

Yeah. No. Okay. I'm gonna... gonna I have you... Oh, she's gonna keep you out early Jane here. Yeah. This is actually the first time

the first time I've had the dogs


Tammy Pescatelli  00:05:10 

I'll you


Juliet Hahn  00:05:12 


on a show, and I do this with them sitting there every day, and so it's actually really funny. There must be something really good


Tammy Pescatelli  00:05:18 

It's my voice, Hello, Carly Jane. Hello, Carly, Jane.


Juliet Hahn  00:05:24 

I love it. So but so you have. I mean, a lot of about you said you have brothers. So were you the only girl? Or do you have...


Tammy Pescatelli  00:05:29 


Yes. Which also led to

my comedy. I mean, it's often been said that I was, you know, is strong and fast and still throw the best spiral in that in the family, but they they got stronger and faster just by pure genetics, so they could never outrun run my mouth in that's home did all started.


Juliet Hahn  00:05:40 

I love it.

Well, I love that. So I have two boys and then my daughter, and she it's it's really interesting to see I grew up with sisters and one one brother. And we were tough. I when we all played sports and we were not. My brother would always say, like, I learned nothing thing from you ladies, like, you did not give me what normal women are. You guys were not normal women. You weren't gossip to be. You took five minutes in the shower, Like, you threw makeup on you were all, like, like, seams put together. And and so we always last because when he was date, people would be like, wow, that person's a lot to them. And we were all big personalities, but just there wasn't a lot of drama behind us. And and really, every single one of us, there wasn't a lot of drama, which is kinda of funny. So


Tammy Pescatelli  00:06:02 



Juliet Hahn  00:06:30 

having two boys and then having a daughter and watching her kinda navigate, and she's...

She's balls the walls. I mean, when she would, you know, friends... She says and how it is. She is not, like, a sense of flower.

We... You know, we didn't razor her that way. Well, really important. Right? I mean, because you can have families that it's like, oh, you're the only girl. You're the princess.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:06:43 



Juliet Hahn  00:06:50 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:06:51 

Well, I was told i was a princess, but my father was clear. He was the king. So like you she know a dear the princess that makes me thinking. But I also think that


I have always been attracted

as French in friendships to alpha females.

Now I think there's definitely room for girly girls, and I respect that it's just... I'm almost like a guy when it comes to it. I don't under standard.


Juliet Hahn  00:07:08 




Tammy Pescatelli  00:07:18 

So I never knew that you could write a note and get out of Gym class and say you had cramps.

Like, what are you getting me? I had to learn all this dumb stuff i to do the parachute thing and the sit up challenge and try to climb a rope. I should had cramped I didn't know all that stuff. So I think there's always something to be said.


Juliet Hahn  00:07:24 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:07:40 

I love that. I found that out later in life. I mean, I moved to Los Angeles and moved into what

I loving with referred to as a stripper colony,

and I think those women

who I would have never hung out with had it not been La alai

as a comic, I had Monday and Tuesdays often that's what stripper out. Same time.

They taught me how to be girly. They taught me how to put my makeup on. Right. They taught me out and do, you know, I always loved fashion, but they they taught me how to flirt. I was... I you did a joke about it once i'm one of my tonight show says I don't remember which one, but you have to ask grass, but It was, like, I flirt from Joey from friends. How you doing? You know what? I mean? Like that? I was never good at that stuff.


Juliet Hahn  00:08:23 

No. It but it's is so funny because that's I... Even though I had sisters, I kind of grew up where it like, my Pop is like, literally can you guys look look at this? Ready. You wanna gonna see this?


Tammy Pescatelli  00:08:35 



Juliet Hahn  00:08:36 


That's perfect.

That is Her behind.

So they're, like, literally like, on top of me. This is, of course. And I'm so glad. It's with the comedian.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:08:44 

it's I like when dogs show up in in the thing because I wanna let people know, yes. I have a security system.

Yes, I have hidden in laughing. I also have an animal


Juliet Hahn  00:08:53 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:08:56 

that will get you. So let's also get that clear. You can walk to my door. You just have walk out of my door.


Juliet Hahn  00:08:57 


No. Totally. So I'm gonna actually get up and let them out because they're gonna go and be crazy. So I'm gonna have you

tell us your...

When you get prepared for, like, a comedy set. What what is when do you start doing?

Like, or it just come right now?


Tammy Pescatelli  00:09:18 

That's boring. I do nothing. But go ahead and get up in not down. Everyone


Juliet Hahn  00:09:22 

Okay just give me.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:09:24 

I don't go ahead my dog, by the way, just so everybody knows has been ringing the belly or a bell ringing, I taught my dog to ring a bell to go outside because I did do a deal with Caesar Milan, and that was I've done random shoes with with random people. She's Tell me how to teach my dog how to ring a bell.


Juliet Hahn  00:09:29 

Oh, yeah.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:09:41 


told me how to use the the will boss the calendar correct.


Juliet Hahn  00:09:44 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:09:47 


Rock with spirit taught me how to put the silver wear out correctly because I didn't really know how to do all that. So


Juliet Hahn  00:09:54 

Okay. So I love that. I just got that.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:09:54 


I don't I don't do a prep for my show. Jill... I've been doing it for twenty six years,

and I... There may be a joke or two that I go through my head but

there's no real prep for me because it's what I've been doing for long. I put my ten thousand hours in that doesn't mean I don't work at my show. But my routine is to actually, there's no prep because I don't know how anybody's gonna respond. I have to do it.

And it's out there, and I know immediately whether the joke works or it doesn't. And maybe should I move it? Is it something they you need to get to know me? First, is it something that goes with something else? Like, I'm in a whole rebuild because in twenty twenty,

i come... I I have a couple specials, but my special the way after school special came out on prime,

and it came out literally March seventeenth. So, yes, it great numbers, go numbers, wonderful numbers. They want to another one. The only thing is though is I didn't have time to rebuild it because we are now just getting back to work, and I write with muse and I have to perform it. So


Juliet Hahn  00:10:46 

Right. Right.


No. I love that. And, you know what? Thank you for for talking. I was also like, oh my god thank god I have pants on.



Tammy Pescatelli  00:11:09 

Not happened


Juliet Hahn  00:11:10 

that well that... Yeah. Totally has happened before. And literally, I was, like, one am I wearing things because I

So that...


Tammy Pescatelli  00:11:17 

See, I admire that I never

like, everybody for years would say to me, you have to have a podcast or you have to have this. And I just... All my creativity

was focused on the stage and trying to make sure that I had a new hour and new jokes and and I did in a weird way, the shutdown allowed me to venture your into this because I kinda felt like, oh, I don't have of anything to say

outside of jokes. So this is a real interesting thing and new. I admire you and what you've done with it.


Juliet Hahn  00:11:46 

Oh don't know. Thank you. Well, you know, it's so funny when you said how you just kind of go and you just do your that And that's like, you know, we talk about this on the podcast all the time. Like,

when you are in your elm, like, when you are whether you believe in god or the universe, when you're in that space, And as you said, it doesn't come easy, but it just comes naturally. It's so...

I love that. You said that because I literally got through stump because that's when when I started this, you know,

two, three years ago, It was, like, leave a second. This is like, I know what I'm doing. Like, if anyone like, hey, can I give you a tip I'm like, you can give me a tip, but this just comes naturally to me. Like, I don't I don't wanna get myself all inter

intertwined and overthinking because that's not me anyways. But when you're in your out, like, when you are in what you were supposed to do. It kinda just floats. So I love that you... You said that.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:12:34 

Yeah. It was hard for me because


Juliet Hahn  00:12:34 

I think it's brilliant, and it just shows


Tammy Pescatelli  00:12:36 

well, thank you.

I I had a hard time pop with podcast

and things in general for me to for for me, not to join it not to listen to them. But for me, because

I simultaneously

did an open mic. It was sponsored by a radio station.

So as I became a comedian,

I was offered a job doing morning radio. And morning radio was so

succ. And so you had to say this at the right time within this many seconds and drop this and say that. So the podcast the free flow, I was a little lost. I was like, wait. Wait. We... What do you mean? You just... You can cough you can I gave like you out, like


Juliet Hahn  00:13:05 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:13:15 

you get up let you dogs out, Like, you know what I mean, like, all ahead and I love that

funny to think that I had the hardest time with was the thing

that I found the most attractive?

It was a real moment, like, you know what I mean, I'm in the middle of this with you. But if I were just watching, you getting up and letting your dogs out is a real moment to me that i the would be highly attracted to.


Juliet Hahn  00:13:27 

I love that.

Well, that's true because it's not scripted. And and there's not... You know, there are some people that are a little bit more, you know, where they have to be a little bit more organized because that's the way they're brain like, when not... When people ask me, like, okay, How did you start this? And what tips can you give? I always say you need to know how you work best. Right? So I know if I... I'm reflex. So I I had, like, a paper with all this stuff written on it, and I have to read it. Like, I have to practice is that stuff. But, like, I can talk for hours. I can talk to myself for hours. I can talk to the dogs for hours. I can tell a story


Tammy Pescatelli  00:13:52 



Juliet Hahn  00:14:06 

to anyone because that's

you know, that's when I'm... That's i'm natural at. And so

I would love for you just give me really quickly when you

figured it out that you wanted to be a a comedian, like, did that come, like, when you were younger, just can you give us a little bit of that background?


Tammy Pescatelli  00:14:22 

Yeah... No. You know, here's the thing. I love stand up. I love to laugh. I didn't grow up in a family that

had a ton laughter. It's not that we could... We laughed, but it wasn't a... We didn't sit down and watch comedy together. Things like that last a lot it you know, if you fill off your body, if you weren't hurt, we were lost up. You know what? I mean? That Kind of stuff slip on the eye my favorite time in the year isolate season.


Juliet Hahn  00:14:36 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:14:46 


like, I look, you know... I mean, I was a good kid. I was afraid to disappoint my parents, but I loved Sand.

Loved it. Loved it. Loved it consumed it and always

even had an eddie murphy tape at age fourteen that I wasn't supposed to have like, this contra

I'll never forget

after a church, we stopped it. What was the equivalent of the Walmart back then Kmart?


I I told my mom, oh, I have to use a restroom as she had checked out and I ran got the eddie Murphy tape and bought

from one of my friends pulled their sister who was a cashier here because they wouldn't sell you something when you're were working. Right? Like...


Juliet Hahn  00:15:23 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:15:24 

And I hit


Juliet Hahn  00:15:25 

Oh, I'm not


Tammy Pescatelli  00:15:26 

This is the sneaky I got. I hit in any murphy tape. I went into my closet

with a sleeping bag in the old press down key. So I can hear it, like, at nighttime, I was supposed vampire, but they never occurred to me be a comic because

from whatever reason it was because it... You know, I know why. It's a tough business. The women that I saw during that time I couldn't relate to they were talking about their husbands or they were talking about their kids or their sequence or their face slips exactly where I am right now in my life. Okay. But


Juliet Hahn  00:15:58 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:16:00 

I just... And then I'll never forget.

My parents moved while I was in college, I was fashion design major.

Gonna go away for the summer or for after summer, I was hanging out with them in that summer I didn't know anybody. There was a comedy club.

I said, I got a fake Id idea. I can work over there and serve beer, watch comedy, make some friends, make a little money, and then I'll go to New York and a fall, and a woman came through. And she was young, and they have a comedy three three part

outside of like, New York, La of San Francisco. It's a Mc feature in a headline, and she was an Mc, and I was talking to her and

in my opinion, at the time, I did not think she was very funny, but she was telling me how she was going all, traveling all around the country and going all these voices. I was like, I could do that. And with my big mouth, I went home, and so I'm as funny as this girl and in a fifty dollar bet with my brothers, my entire career started.



Juliet Hahn  00:16:58 

Oh my god. I love that.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:17:00 



Juliet Hahn  00:17:00 

And this so how how many brothers


Tammy Pescatelli  00:17:02 

I have two, but I have eleven first cousins and at the time two of my cousins were living with us.

They're... They're all points to eleven first cousins at world boy.


Juliet Hahn  00:17:08 

Oh my god.

Right. And I...

Freaking... So I... Now I need to know more about that story. So how fifty... Like, what what did you say to them? What did they counted it?


Tammy Pescatelli  00:17:17 

Go fifty buck two. I went to the the

the manager

And I was like, I think I wanna try open mic, night. I think i might be a good comedian and she was like, good because you're a crappy waitress.

And I...


You have to give me...

I need to see your first three minutes. You'll have five minutes, and I was like, I got hours,

but you don't realize how important it is. Sure. You can entertain five million of your friends,

but to have people who pay money to see you, three minutes is extravagant.


Juliet Hahn  00:17:44 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:17:49 


I it submitted my material, and my first joke I have a wrote was something I used to say at the night gloves back then because I've large grass i've large features. Big guys big nose big miles, the big big breasts, and guys would say, for those real because it was in time when, you know,


Juliet Hahn  00:18:06 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:18:06 

people that know there weren't a lot of breast implants. And I would say if you thought if you they would say, are you... Well can't even remember the stupid joke? But gonna go real. And I'd say,

don't you think if I had that kind of money I'd had my nose fixed first?

So that was my first joke that I unknowingly wrote and then I kinda went from there.


Juliet Hahn  00:18:27 


I love that. So you know what, this is actually funny because I have... I have strong features too. My ears in my nose, and I always say,

you know, they they grow forever. So I I have... As I said see in the beginning, I have sisters and a brother.

And so I always tell them I'm the hottest right now. I was not the hottest when I first was born, but I'm the hottest now. And I was, like, give it like, ten years and wanna of you out take me because my nose and my ears will now be out of abortions in my face, but and they're, like, you're such an asshole, and I... Because that they are, like, we're a track moment with you are, but I'm so much hotter right now. Like, I my everything fits.

And then night...


Tammy Pescatelli  00:19:03 

That's funny. I have the opposite. I just went to... Like, I joke about it in my act now, but it like, I gained a lot of weight during quarantine.

I also turned fifty two during quarantine


Juliet Hahn  00:19:14 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:19:14 

I'm full blown menopause.

I have liver disease and a lot of thyroid issues. So I gained a lot of weight. I gained a lot. And


Juliet Hahn  00:19:17 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:19:24 

my brother said to me, the other day, looked at me goes what. You don't work out no more.

Like, oh. I'm like kill with you.

No. I don't. Because once I found out that someone could eat a bat and kill us all, I'm over it.

I'm like

why am I at a gym?


Juliet Hahn  00:19:42 

Right. Now where where did you grow up?


Tammy Pescatelli  00:19:45 

Cleveland my little

suburb of cleveland little town called Perry Isle. Where I film my last specially I went back to my old high school because my guidance counselor and Tenth grade, when I said, I wanted to be an actress.


Juliet Hahn  00:19:49 

Oh my god.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:19:57 

I know I wanted to perform. I just had no idea that comedy was it.


Juliet Hahn  00:20:01 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:20:02 

And comedy became natural because if you forgot, I was always in all the plays. And so if you forgot your lines, I would add you


back to book. So I knew that I could do stand up because that's just evan living for yourself. Right?


Juliet Hahn  00:20:17 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:20:17 


I went to my guidance counselor said I wanna be an actress and she busted out laughing right in my face and said, you're from here. No from here has ever been on Tv. If you're gonna be on T have to rob a bank, and she just laughed me right out of our office.

So I was gonna... Not only went back.

Idea was that I put entire town on Tv.

I had

the kids work with professionals

in the entertainment industry. We set up a a scholarship,

and I was gonna make her introduce me, and she died two weeks before. So


imagine just not by serve goals. You gotta get right back in there. But,

yeah, that was it was all about.


Juliet Hahn  00:20:59 


You know what? It's so funny that you said nuts... I guess it's not funny, but guidance counselors, I played sports. And so I dislikes the as I said, And so school came really hard for me, but I was really, really good at Athletics, and I wanted to go to college, and she would tell me you're not gonna go to college.

And and I... The town I grew up in, everyone was good at everything. Like, my friends were really good in sports. They were, like, all, you know, getting recruited by Harvard Jail. And south, but I was just as good as them as in sports, maybe even better. And I remember being like, what you don't tell someone that. Like, you know tell them when they're not gonna go to college. So when I did go to college, and I got on the honor roll, my mom sent the letter because my mom is an education and, like, very big and, like, you know, with a sticky. Don't tell people what they're gonna do and what they're not gonna do. Like, what an asshole?


Tammy Pescatelli  00:21:17 



Yeah. Guidance counselors. Right?

Now let me ask you something as someone for me who was in really truly a male dominated field

until probably the last ten years. I've seen the explosion and somewhere in my in my brain, whether it's true or not, I like to feel like I had something to do with that with female


Juliet Hahn  00:22:06 

A hundred percent you did. Yes. Yes. You did.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:22:10 

And as someone who participated in sports and and I quite honestly thought for

women's sports, a lot of us of our generation because the first thing when a school closed the budget they would do is get rid of the girls sports. Get rid of Volleyball, Get rid of cheer and get rid of



Juliet Hahn  00:22:28 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:22:29 

the girls stuff. Girls stuff went first people don't understand that nowadays

that we literally, in the past thirty years or so that they're available because a lot of times, like, when I started school, there wasn't a girl's basketball team. It it develops. So


Juliet Hahn  00:22:45 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:22:47 

how do you feel about because I have a friend who had a daughter who was literally...

Like a hurdles specialist, like, training

at at age fourteen for the Olympicics, and it becomes her senior year.

And she's now very nervous because the lead in the her league now is a transgender


How do you how do you stand on all that right now?


Juliet Hahn  00:23:12 

That's we're getting controversial here. Okay. So


Tammy Pescatelli  00:23:14 

Well, you and I don't wanna make it controversial


Juliet Hahn  00:23:17 

No. Yeah.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:23:17 


I wanted to be listen. I I I love inclusion.

I love let me be clear so no one thinks that it's controversial.


Juliet Hahn  00:23:21 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:23:25 

I love inclusion. I I also started the people like parents and friends of lesbians and gays in college. I mean, in school. So I'm totally dumb for all inclusion. I'm just wondering if we're doing a disservice


Juliet Hahn  00:23:32 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:23:38 



Juliet Hahn  00:23:39 

Yes. We are.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:23:39 

to all of our children,

whether they're transgender children or biologically

starting as as a military.


Juliet Hahn  00:23:48 

So as so here's my... Here's my thing. So where I grew up, we were actually very fortunate the women

were stronger sports than the men. And so this is what we always left. It was like a wealthy town in New Jersey right out outside of Philadelphia. And so my mom would always say it was all, like, the very athletic very pretty women that married dorothy men from other places So the men weren't athletic, but the women were athletic. Right? So but they're


Tammy Pescatelli  00:24:09 


Yeah That's.


Juliet Hahn  00:24:11 

but they were, like, well, and they were super successful.


I never had that. But I would say now, I mean, like, with the swimming thing,

I that angered me because I was like, well, up. We're, like, putting women back down, Like, you're... And Again, I have two boys. You have a... You you grew up in the man's world and, you know, with with your family and you have a son,

If men are,

most for the most part built stronger. Right? But I have a daughter that I've always told her. You can do anything and my daughter is super strong. She was a gym

super athletic. You can do anything, but there's a certain point

right? That a male is going to

run the majority, be stronger. So for


Tammy Pescatelli  00:24:50 

There it's... I don't...

Because I would have loved to been aligned them.


Juliet Hahn  00:24:54 

Totally. Right.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:24:54 

I like

that's why someone wants to get on my stage. You should try because I've been dying to hit someone since the ninety.


Juliet Hahn  00:24:56 


I love that. I love that. So I I have a problem with with...

And I... And, again, I don't say in the wrong, but with a male that has changed into a female, but later in life, so they've developed

or... Like, they have gone through everything. They've gone through puberty. They are a man, and then they decide to be a transgender that. I'm fine. I'm mean, my sister's gay. I'm... You know, I'm I have my nephew. I am all about

be who you want and and and yell it out from the roof rooftop. I don't care about any of that, but I feel


Tammy Pescatelli  00:25:31 

Yeah. Was specifically...

Talking about competition

right now.


Juliet Hahn  00:25:35 

Yeah. I don't think it's wrong. I think it's wrong. I think it's wrong because it is again,

putting the woman... Like, the women we have worked so hard and certain things and all of sudden, it's like, oh,


Tammy Pescatelli  00:25:43 

Yeah. I was mounted Caitlin for taking woman of the year. Like, you barely been a woman. I'm happy are you available? But listen, I think I get wanna put you on the I didn't mean to put you on the spot. It's that really big question and I feel like we're we're really not serving. There's something new now. There's this the we have to


Juliet Hahn  00:25:52 


No. It's really fine.



Tammy Pescatelli  00:26:04 


but perhaps

we need to

have deli delineate lines. You know what I mean?


Juliet Hahn  00:26:10 

No. And, you know... And it's if someone in a year or two years is gonna come back and be like, who made that decision that was so dumb. It's because no one wants to say no. Because they don't wanna get canceled. They don't wanna get in trouble. So people are not really thinking fully. That the the girl that one, that, you know,



Tammy Pescatelli  00:26:28 



Juliet Hahn  00:26:29 

she I don't know when she transitions. But if I was the other... You know, the one that came in second, I would be pissed


Tammy Pescatelli  00:26:36 

Well, and I Yeah. I feel like they all... Listen. It is so hard to compete. When I said that I wanted to continue my comedy career when I was... Pregnant.


Juliet Hahn  00:26:36 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:26:47 

I I never even thought about it, but it was literally... I'm telling you my agent sent to me. I sat down in his office ugly, I was so, Hollywood

that I hit it till I was five months pregnant.

And I said,

you know, I'm pregnant. And he goes solo oh. I guess your career over. And I I I said,

wasn't a rouge to get a man. I'm like, what is now that I... What do you think? And he's like, well, I've never seen a pregnant woman on stage, and it also gave me one of my best jokes because I did reply. You've never been to a really bad strip club. But


Juliet Hahn  00:27:08 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:27:20 

I think that that... I think people put on other people what their

presumption are. And I think

in in these sporting events, we really are doing such a disservice to this generation that feels strong enough to transition


by all means if your... That poor girl gave second place, she's allowed to be disappointed and it has nothing to do with her being prejudice or or, you know, so...


Juliet Hahn  00:27:46 

No. That's a thing. And that's... Yeah.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:27:48 

So hot we have to really find a way to meet.


Juliet Hahn  00:27:49 

It's ripped.

We have to really find a way to meet. And it's really. It is and... The other thing that also, I think it brings it makes other people angry that don't need to be angry.

Right? Like, it's bringing an intention

to... Like, I was annoyed at the... The... Like, I was like,


I would be ashamed if I were you know, like of her. Like, I'd be like, no. I don't wanna compete. But, again, that's not mine, but that's my initial thing. Like, I... If if I worked my whole career, I'm was so

hard, and then someone said, well, I'm gonna now...

I'm transitioning, which... You know, as I said, that's wonderful. Transition, but don't then be like, okay. I'm... And you're you're thirteen inches taller than me. Like...


Tammy Pescatelli  00:28:28 

I think it was Billy Jenkins said the needs are the... Like, she she quoted Sp the neither of the one don't outweigh the needs of the money. And I think we just have to find a way. It's nice for me when I see women being part of comedy, you know,

I I iphones...

There's a thing on the East Coast. You probably familiar with Nasa,


iphone they did comedy thing and I was seven months pregnant,


Juliet Hahn  00:28:50 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:28:53 

and they didn't wanna play it because I was pregnant. Then you cut two years later,

you know, ten years goes by in Alley Long is doing her comedy special and they're like, oh, it's breakthrough,

and I'm like, it it is breakthrough because you couldn't see it, but we have been trying. They just kept pushing us down.


Juliet Hahn  00:29:11 

Pushing back. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. I just think that there... It just

to me, everyone. And and, really just the way everything goes right now, everyone just needs to not be an asshole and just

like, just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean you don't like the other part... Like, of other people, you have, like, prejudice here, It's just if we all could just get along and expect each other for what everyone's doing and everyone just be nice and, like, not the assholes. I feeling what would be in a different place.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:29:37 

It's very hard. You can't you can't critique...

There are certain people. You can't critique because they take it, like, to heart and, you know, and I'm like,


Juliet Hahn  00:29:45 

Oh there's so many people are too sensitive. There's a lot of too sensitive right now.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:29:47 


Well, you better not be in public. Okay. That's all I'm saying. If you wanna... If you're sensitive,

going up without anything creatively

in public because you will constantly be, you know, you'll will constantly

be criticized no matter what?


Juliet Hahn  00:30:01 


And I have to say we are huge comedy house. Like, we... Have... We like, love stand up. I mean, our kids have seen stuff that sometimes I'm like,

don't think that was a per. I don't think that was appropriate. But alright. You know?


Tammy Pescatelli  00:30:11 

Yeah. I


Juliet Hahn  00:30:16 

So we... I mean, love love stand. And I... So I would love

for you to give a little insight because that and you just kind of brought a good

something up as we have talked in the house, like, it has to be really hard

to be a comedian now because everyone's getting canceled. Like, it's like, you say the wrong thing, and it's like you're canceled, and people can't take a joke. You're not...

It's it's

there's such a fine line. So I would love your take on that right now in the world.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:30:42 

Yeah. Wow. I mean, it's twofold fools. Really? Number one,

people are getting canceled because the world is consuming comedy and thirty in clips of comedians you were never supposed to watch. They're not meant for your demographic. So that means someone is watching you in that knowing your voice comedy was built on. You created a fan, and then that fan followed you down that road. If you take anybody's life in thirty seconds, snippet it,


Juliet Hahn  00:31:05 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:31:09 

you don't know their heart. You don't know the mindset you don't hear it. So I think that's one of the problems.

The second part for me is I was one of the first people canceled, and I was canceled for telling the truth. I lost my agent and my manager and work and was sla by everybody.

So I'm able to handle it because my audience all that I had left at that time

was my fan base, and they embraced me and held me. And I began selling out after that because they knew that I had been the people who followed you I had put the time in the grassroots campaign if you will. There weren't millions of them, but if there were two hundred and forty seven people at that show, there were two hundred and forty seven people who loved me. So they followed me down that road and and then it helped me. They really helped when I was like, they knew when I was going through. So they recruited people. They were like, you know what? We have the same sense of humor. You should watch this this female comic and, you know, and that's how it happened for me a little bit more. That's how I got out of that hole, but, no. I'm not afraid.


Juliet Hahn  00:31:56 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:32:14 

I say at the very beginning, I don't like that people can...

I was really shocked,

really shocked in the past.

Two weeks that people

could defend someone getting physically

hurt over word


Juliet Hahn  00:32:30 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:32:31 

blown away.

Blown away.

I couldn't believe how many people could justify

that action.

And then I had to stop back and go... Yeah. That's because they're in their homes. They're caught they're it'd they literally

they have no sense if you work at all. And the problem is is

we take on the world collectively


On social media

and just one at a time having conversations.


Juliet Hahn  00:32:55 


Right. And everyone... I... And you brought it up so well that you had your fan base. They knew your heart. They knew who you were.

As a person. So it was like, okay. No. This is a joke. So I mean, I applaud, you know, you for what you do because it is... It can't be easy, especially


Tammy Pescatelli  00:33:06 



Juliet Hahn  00:33:15 

in this day and age with with the whole cancel culture. I mean, that makes cancel makes can be absolutely insane because I'm like, we just all

what happened. It's like, what happened it just... I thought it was gonna definitely get better. Just seems keep getting

like, worse and worse. And


Tammy Pescatelli  00:33:30 

It was getting better until the slime I created a show called canceled this comedy tour where I put some comics eyes that had been canceled


we were having some success, and now I don't even feel like going out with it because I feel like people got to... It will wait and we'll go try again. But I think people got that whole... The physical violence is bizarre to me, and it's just... It's never okay. And you see it everywhere Right now. I mean, literally, three days after that, there was a kid who was running cross country


Juliet Hahn  00:33:53 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:34:02 

and someone

clocked in another

student in clocked and i don't if you saw that because planning


Juliet Hahn  00:34:07 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:34:09 

just came up and so on to the back of the head because he was beating him. Okay. Whatever. I don't know. Again, I can't do it anymore. All I can do is sell


Juliet Hahn  00:34:10 


I mean.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:34:19 

take care of me. I know my intent.

I did not get in boxing.


Juliet Hahn  00:34:22 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:34:25 

I do not get into the Mma world. I got into the opposite

of a violent length job.

But my job was to make people laugh if you wanna fight, if you wanna be miserable


Juliet Hahn  00:34:35 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:34:38 

over something that I assume, it's not bullying

I'm not coming to your house. I'm not coming to your job. I don't even know ninety percent of the time,

individually, the names of the audience, it's collective.

So if you you like it bullying, you need therapy,


Juliet Hahn  00:34:51 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:34:55 

Not comedy.


Juliet Hahn  00:34:55 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:34:56 

Like, I can't.


Juliet Hahn  00:34:56 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:34:57 

Like... You know, I literally

I tell jokes about my brother.

I tell jokes about his wives. I tell jokes about my husband. I tell jokes about me because those are real life things and I'm allowed to my life. I'm allowed to. If they wanna get on stage, they wanna start a podcast. They wanna, you know,


Juliet Hahn  00:35:08 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:35:15 

they wanna have a the opposite opinion.

Those forms open for them too. They just happen to not do it because they need me to pay for their divorce in b.


Juliet Hahn  00:35:24 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:35:26 



Juliet Hahn  00:35:27 

Oh my god.

But, but I still appreciate you, and I'm sure a lot of stories growing up with with brothers.

You have to have a lot of them. And I I have to one


Tammy Pescatelli  00:35:37 

And thumbs and guns.


Juliet Hahn  00:35:39 

tons... So this... You'll appreciate this. One of my best friends was the only girl and she had three brothers.

And our friend, Amy, Wow, who is this amy your listening,

bright red hair. She actually had to sit

she was a allowed to sit near the window because she would get burnt by the sun coming in. That how that's how painful she was so okay. He was so pale.

And she was over at Daniel's house and we were all playing, and she comes out of the bathroom.

She's like, look at this cool thing. We probably were in, like, third grade. Okay. She had one of her brother's cops.

Oh, for things.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:36:11 

You're her go.


Juliet Hahn  00:36:12 

She comes out. And my friend Name is like,


but my. And she's like, why. What is it? She's like, that goes over. It does a cop covers their balls, and she was like, the root this thing, and I'll never fragrance. I had... My brother was literally at that time, and I was like, you mean and how does this all? I was, like, always fascinated by the cop. So when my kids got older and they started playing sports with cup, I would literally...

Do you know, because you would lose, like, lose them. Right? So it would be like boys... Where where's your and cop, and this was when they played biggest following us cross for a bit. And so I would have it in my purse.

And so one time when I was in whole foods, I went to go, like, find my wall. And I was taking things out and I put the cop on and I just I couldn't stop laughing. I had to call my friend Daniel. and I was, like, I'm in the cup world now, Like, you know, where's Amy cough, You gotta call her because


Tammy Pescatelli  00:36:46 

His terrible


Juliet Hahn  00:37:00 

I'm literally carrying a cup around and putting it out on, like, the conveyor belt and whole foods.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:37:05 

now you get a quick



Juliet Hahn  00:37:08 


So tell us just, like one of your favorite stories of growing up i me, I'm sure that so on.

Most memorable, Like, something that comes to your like mind right now.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:37:15 


Yeah. I don't

I mean, I I mind the all the stories for my act quite honestly, I mean, there was


Juliet Hahn  00:37:27 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:37:27 

the million of the stories, you know, that... I mean,

I'll just... My brother's


kinda followed along, then we to call them

Ling green and set a, which are, like, in Italian is the tall and thin and the short bat


Juliet Hahn  00:37:44 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:37:45 


And Decided them one brother that that I talk about a lot, and he

he just used to sing all the time at the top of his songs he had a great voice.

But he never understood because we didn't have liner or notes. You couldn't ask Siri,

and he would sing these songs

over time and like, we'd put on shows for our parents and he'd be like, every time you go away, you take a piece of meat with you. And, like, instead of making a me and then


Juliet Hahn  00:38:10 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:38:13 

Another one rides the book,


You couldn't tell him otherwise, and that's that I should know and that he was gonna grow up and be trouble for us. Because he just wouldn't listen to home wall. No It's another invite death. You see the record possessed the title on the record.


Juliet Hahn  00:38:18 

That's really hard.

Oh my gosh.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:38:30 

I can't read.


Juliet Hahn  00:38:32 

Oh my god. That's clear. So where are you in that? Are you the youngest?


Tammy Pescatelli  00:38:35 


I'm the oldest... I'm all listen are my brothers, but I'm younger than the you cousins who lived with us so... Yeah. Was fun. It was a fun time growing up.


Juliet Hahn  00:38:37 

You're the oldest?

I'm sure. And... I mean, that's one thing. It's it is so you know, people will say, I mean, Imagine people say, like, oh, it's must be so hard to raise kids nowadays.

But I always will say to them,

I mean, think about all the different generations all the things that have happened in other, you know, like, nine eleven, the wars, like, from, you know... That they our parents live through. And I'm like, it's just... We all navigate it the best that we can. I mean, I wouldn't say that


Tammy Pescatelli  00:39:09 



Juliet Hahn  00:39:10 

raising kids now is harder than it was

fifteen years ago. It's just different. It's just you have to navigate it differently.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:39:15 

Well, that's what entire

last special was about. If you ever watched it's the... I... I literally say too many generations or live at the same time. It's not that we're trying to fight. We just grew up completely different. And that's what that whole special just lays out the differences of

we didn't talk to work it. I mean, they didn't talk to us. There was no...

You know, I said, like, the joke because I told my father I'm cold, and he was like, no. You're not. Like, they told us how to think they don't us how to feel. Now we're supposed to be the parents and talk kids go how do you feel about that? And, like, it's so foreign to me because kids were not supposed to be part of the conversation.


Juliet Hahn  00:39:54 

Yeah. You know, it's so because my spoke of sixteen, fourteen and twelve, my daughter's the youngest, and I am all about communications.

Give me communication and whenever

something like, if someone will quiet, I'm like, what happens something happened at school and they're like, why why does everything always... Might something always have to have happened? And I'm like, you gotta talk about it. Like, if you're feeling depressed, you gotta tell me I, and they're like. We're not feeling to press


Tammy Pescatelli  00:40:11 


I know well, I also, like, okay. So here's the here's a mommy thing.


Juliet Hahn  00:40:16 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:40:21 

I do monitor his activity.

Much to my husband's dismay. He's like, he needs have this privacy. I'm like, yeah. No.

He's a good kid, and he's got straight a's for years and he... What... But I need to see what else other people are doing. So literally yesterday,

I've been out for a few days, and I just thought I'd take a school through Snapchat, see what he was looking at. And I saw that one of his friends that used to be his little buddy

is hanging out with a group of kids, and they were older,

and this older kid took his little brother

and bobby slammed him. The little boy was probably... The kid was a big. She was probably fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old, like in high school. And he took his little brother, like, four or five years old and slammed him, and the kid was clearly crying. And, of course, all the other kids were laughing. And I was like, I don't know what to do with this because I'm not really supposed to on this phone. He's not doing it. How do I I don't know that kids. His parents, how do I follow that down that whole?


Juliet Hahn  00:41:17 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:41:25 



Juliet Hahn  00:41:25 

Right. Hold that poor little guy. Right.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:41:28 

Yeah. And he was, like, hysterical client

I... It know and I took all the classes, so I'm like a court mandated reporter, Like, you know, because I wanna be able to hang out at the school and feel extra time with my kid when I'm

home on the road. So I'm just trying to... That's what I'm in the middle of right now because it's all about... I he didn't rat on them. He didn't even know that I saw it. So now when he after school today, we're gonna have to have a conversation so I can figure out we got kid is in with that families, and now I'll be honest, Who knows if the family even cares.


Juliet Hahn  00:41:54 


Right. I know. I know but still that little guy fine. That's so sad.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:41:59 


you know?

Yeah. It's super sad. And and I can't... Like, I wanna grab... I I hope I don't run into that big future to track me because I think I knock him out.


Juliet Hahn  00:42:10 


I'm right. Hey. Where's your brother?


Tammy Pescatelli  00:42:12 

Now that I be random kids, but I saw what you did, like, your body slammed the baby.


Juliet Hahn  00:42:18 

Right. And also, you put it on... This is... So the other thing is... This is what I say that my... This is what I say to my kids all the time.

Be aware of your surroundings,

and don't be an asshole, and I have very good very good kids. But, you know, like, there was my oldest

first moved to the town we live in now.


seven months and I get a call. He's never been in trouble and I get a call and they were like, you know, montgomery been in involves in a fight, and I was like,

was talking by he's been involved a fight Isn't fight. I was, like, I I need to know more. I don't know what you mean and they're like, there was a fight he was watching, and I was like, Okay. So he wasn't involved in the fight He was watching a fight. I was like, I'm... Okay. I I need to know more.

Like, he was the watch out. And I'm like,

okay. This doesn't make any sense. Montgomery not the watch out. Like, I I need... I I need to know more about this. So she's like,


Tammy Pescatelli  00:43:18 



Juliet Hahn  00:43:19 

you can come in and see the the video. It's on video. And I was like, don't video.

She's, like, yes. All the kids video it. And I was like, did montgomery video. And she's like, no. Because he knows. I'm like, you don't video with things. It's like, that's how you get in trouble. You don't video things. That's you need to be around. So I go in. You know, I was like, I really don't think he was involved. Like, I I... I I I feel like there's misunderstanding. But, yes, I'll come in and i and I'll watch. So I literally... They're

showing me the bank. There's a group of kids. Now, first of all, they got... Do you...

Were you back? Did your kids do? There's like a slap boxing thing. They're, like, friends and they, like, say and they... It's so stupid. What do you mean? Who's watching you fight Like, did you walk by actually trying to hurt each other? They do the slapping thing. Guy


Tammy Pescatelli  00:43:56 


Yeah. But we just played that game on we were kids too. It was... Yeah.


Juliet Hahn  00:44:02 


Okay. So all of a sudden, I see montgomery,

everyone's back here filming and my kid is

which a short of the time.

Jumps on a, like, a

like, something higher. So he could see.

And he's like, looking down and you can see I'm like, oh,

like this. And I'm like, okay okay. Well, clearly, He was there, but he was not a watch out. What... They're, like, did you see him look and I was like,

he is not watching.

He is watching what's going on there. Look, How what looks at the kid. And she's like, are you're right? Because he was got... If he was the watch out, he was gonna have suspended.

Okay. So that's what I was, like, first of all, this is like, he's never been in trouble. I think we need to ask, you know, more questions here. And she's like, alright, Mrs On. But I was like, he... He wasn't the watch... So literally when he came home, I was... you know, he's like, how much trouble am I am? I'm like


Tammy Pescatelli  00:44:37 



Juliet Hahn  00:44:50 

well you're were in trouble because

I've I'm told you to be aware of your surroundings. Did you look straight ahead and see there was thirty phones filming in your direction?

So The whole thing is you standing on the stupid block because you can't see. I know you weren't the watch, but you were doing... And he's like,


Tammy Pescatelli  00:44:58 



Juliet Hahn  00:45:06 

you would have watched. And I'm like,

whether I would have watched or not,

if the kids weren't hurt really hurting each other, they were, like, being stupid and silly. Yes. I probably would've have stopped but I wanted to been on that side of the phone. I would been behind them. I was, like, all the kids me behind did get in trouble. I was like, did you like,


Tammy Pescatelli  00:45:19 

Yeah. And it it

bit hard

Yeah. It's really hard, like, in it... It's there's the fine line of, like, consequences

because I grew up with if you can trouble school, you got in trouble at home. Teachers were with final thing. But then there's also, like, they're... We do have to, for example, my phone was in first grade, second grade.


Juliet Hahn  00:45:28 


Oh, totally.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:45:40 

And was second grade, And

there a little boy who had been exposed to a lot. He had an

uncle that lived with them that was like a teenager

and baby had a lot. So he had seen a lot of inappropriate movies, magazines,


Juliet Hahn  00:45:51 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:45:56 



Juliet Hahn  00:45:57 

Right jeez.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:45:57 

So this way kind of right.

This little boy began to try to force kiss girls on the playground.


Juliet Hahn  00:46:05 

Oh, no.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:46:05 


And say,

really, like, literally, like, I wanna

I'll just tell you what to said. Because I wanna be naked with you. We make a baby. Like, he didn't he did i don't think he knew what it meant, but he kept trying to force kiss the girls because he had seen some inappropriate stuff.


Juliet Hahn  00:46:14 

Oh like



Tammy Pescatelli  00:46:22 

So I had heard that my son told me like, he does that. And I said you got it. You can't let do that. You either...

You know, you gotta tell him to stop and you have to tell the teacher

you know, you don't let that happen. It's not right.


Juliet Hahn  00:46:35 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:46:36 

The conversation that we have. The next day, he goes to school,

and there was a little girl that


the kid that was trying to kiss was trying to kiss her. She ran behind my son.

When the kid ran around try to get around him. My son popped him.


He has no business hitting people.

He was completely wrong, but they wanted to suspend him. And I said I... You can

or was in school. I I said you can, but I'm gonna and sit with him the entire time.


Juliet Hahn  00:47:11 

Right. Right.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:47:11 

I said he does deserve you should've have put his hands,

but they had told the teachers. The teacher was not paying intention. They had been telling me teacher.


Juliet Hahn  00:47:18 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:47:20 

So I don't know why you expect an eight year old who is honorable

to do in this situation.


Juliet Hahn  00:47:26 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:47:26 

She knew jackson.

She ran to him.

He hit the kid and said, stop it. He didn't beat him off, Peter and lame on ground and spin on him Kick on he's. And the kids stopped. What I guess I don't know what to say. You're right. You deserves to get in trouble for hitting, considering is not okay ever ever ever.


Juliet Hahn  00:47:36 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:47:46 

But in the child's mind,


Juliet Hahn  00:47:48 

Well, he was... He was like, I'm gonna protect. Well, that's the thing. It's there's is it's just it's such...


Tammy Pescatelli  00:47:48 

it is


Juliet Hahn  00:47:53 

There's... There's, like, a lot of not communication, and I understand like schools have to like, well what we we need... Know he can't do that. We have like, you know, show with the other kids that that's not okay. And it's like,


Tammy Pescatelli  00:48:02 



Juliet Hahn  00:48:03 

ugh, I mean, it's it's it's... That part of parenting, but that part of parent taking as always. Right? I mean, maybe our parents didn't know everything, but it's always those kind of waters. Like, hey, Just be good and and look around you and make or like, if someone needs tell, you go help them. You know? Like, just be good citizen.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:48:18 

Yeah. Well, I we were lucky.

The girls

parents came in and said,

do not punish him. That is not plus it was a Catholic school and we were paying for that education. Today they had listened to us just a little bit. But, you know, it is what it is. I allow him to be have the detention


Juliet Hahn  00:48:29 



Tammy Pescatelli  00:48:35 

before school and after school for a week because you don't put your hands on people, but I think I I didn't wanna stop that part of him that cared about other people.


Juliet Hahn  00:48:39 


Right. And he was like, right. And when you're that age, sometimes you don't know you don't know what you're doing No. Totally.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:48:45 



Juliet Hahn  00:48:49 

Well, I'm gonna let we're gonna... End that's even though I could talk to you for hours and hours,


Tammy Pescatelli  00:48:53 

I enjoy


Juliet Hahn  00:48:55 

I totally enjoy you, and I can't wait to come and when you're like, I'm I'm gonna meet you on the road. Like, I'm so excited.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:49:00 

I think i

are you close to West Night?


Juliet Hahn  00:49:04 

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm out long island at the beach, but, like.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:49:07 

Also, then you're company to governors on May thirteenth come to governors on May thirty.


Juliet Hahn  00:49:08 

I mean, yes.

Oh, my god.

May thirteen. I'm writing it down. I'm so excited.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:49:14 

It's mother's day weekend, May thirteenth. It's also my birthday weekend.


Juliet Hahn  00:49:18 

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Tammy Pescatelli  00:51:05 



Juliet Hahn  00:51:05 

So... Yes.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:51:06 



Juliet Hahn  00:51:07 

Some fun stuff. So I can wait, You know, Tammy, thank you again. Sorry for the computer in the beginning, but I just... Absolute do do. I could do this forever. I mean, we could, you know, go out and have

I mean, really talk forever and just meet each other last year or just awesome.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:51:20 

We definitely are gonna do that and and it's no problem

listen, we made it work. So we'll talk again soon. I'm sure you and I are gonna talk a whole bunch. Good to see you.


Juliet Hahn  00:51:30 

You too. Alright, everyone. Thank you. And thanks, Tammy. And wherever you guys are listening. Thank you.


Tammy Pescatelli  00:51:31 



Juliet Hahn  00:51:35 

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